Dota frog here, no idea who nemesis or ranger is until i found this vod channel. I gotta say i fucking love your guys sense of humor. Keep on baiting these elitist Dota/LoL "experts". Its funny af and it gatekeeps them. Makes the learning process more enjoyable. I also like the vibe where yall are trying to learn but also not taking it too seriously. Unlike some of your chatters. Keep it up guys. This is some good ass content.
@@okie9065 just for fun I suppose, he's not played pro for a few years now and hit rank 2 korea (maybe rank 1 at some point? idk for sure), i guess he wanted a new challenge
Man, I enjoy your content. You seem chill and one thing is crazy: You're being told a mechanic once or twice and you memorize it and use it as often as possible. There are players that play the game for almost 20 years and they can't memorize things like tread switch, when to use BKB, how to farm lane+jungle. You just need to learn to click some heroes at the top while you are dead. You can read all their abilities and their items. It makes the death time better
When I tried out league some years ago it felt so weird not being able to read other champ's abilities in game. It would make the learning process easier
17:29 quick tip for monkey king if you have jingu and q you can just q the wave and get to full hp and not only that it also pushes the wave so you have prio for runes
i like watching good league/dota players play the opposite game, you can tell they have a wealth of knowledge and mechanics they want to tap into but cant. would be exciting to see nemesis' journey like how grubby was
No it's not lol. If 1 pos 5 is hardcore stacking the jungle for the pos 1 and the other pos 5 is clowning around, one team will get stomped hard. Just because deaths matter less in dota doesn't mean you are allowed to clown around. That's how you know Ranger is trash at the game. Low elo LoL players aren't sweaty. They just autopilot and always fight without thinking, coin flipping every fight. That's not being sweaty, that's being dumb and lazy.
DOTA is a slower paced game and there is more room for mistakes as game has multiple ways to stop a "snowballing team". So you can definitely have some fun ;D But of course that doesnt mean you can run it down mid and win 😝
Nemesis if you use Branch on ground to plant tree, and eat it with tangoe, it heals you 3x times longer, unlike regular tree tango, but cost you 50 gold branch :D
Nemesis should watch True Sight 2019 whenever hes doing variety now that he's played monkey mid like 5 times already and seems to enjoy it (could also watch it with ranger so he can explain anything nemesis doesnt understand, like the skills of some heroes he hasnt seen yet in his games or something) idk hi twitch chat 📧
Yeah, most of LoL's complexity is mastering your champ. The game plan is the same every game otherwise. Most Dota champs are super simple, but because of the nature of the game and map, the game plan can vary sooo much game per game.
I saw so much angry comments about ranger in the last vods that I think it should be clarified that ranger and neme are irl friends and he isnt a professional dota coach. Its more like your big brother teaching you a game so yall could chill down a bit and not get butthurt for other people.
Bro the fact that his league brain keeps kiting on dota is so triggering like you're making echo sabre passive useless and losing so many kills just by attack moving for no reason
23:56 these people are the reason why you need to have 100 hours before rank match. In there you have no excuse, they gonna throw every slur at you for 1 small mistake
lol no, the reason is smurfs who buy accs play a bit and sell. How toxicity corellates with amount of hours played? There's always toxic players on high ranks, even more toxic than in normals
@@autist1cvoice lol no 100 hrs are needed so that there shouldn't be "I don't know how to ping" excuse bruh. 100 hrs should be enough for you to learn all things that need to know to play rank that doesn't mean there will be no toxicity but imagine how toxic it would be when your teammate don't even know how to ping
thats base thing on every ranked game. you was talking about toxicity which he experienced right in education games and on high rank theres much more toxicity as players care more about game@@frinsjunior7303
The first thing this coach should tell nemesis is to just read the abilities and items' descriptions... He's so clueless, doesn't even know what the items he's buying do
@@spysc2721 thats bs and u know it. The core element of how a moba works and the objectives and mechanics, wc3 has non of those things and your telling us its more similar than league? The only similarity between wc3 and dota are probably just movement, denying and attribute/stat system. Sure, some heroes are straight up copies but even then, its alot easier for league players to get into dota than wc3 players. (atleast familiarity wise)
Dots is the only reason I watch your stream these days. Euw gameplay is uninteresting to me compared to kr. Good decision to not include the last game. It was extremely frustrating to watch. If your coach has no desire to teach, has no empathy for your frustration and has no respect for your own viewers then it's better for everyone that you get another coach
tbf eu and Na have the worst DIvine in the game. their mechanical skills are archon at best when compared to SEA. seen a bunch of 5k noobs cant even land mars spear @@CocoXLarge
@@CocoXLargeDota players could encounter a space engineer working at NASA and they will still think they are smarter or some kind of genius because they play a game, most insecure game fanbase i've seen in my life, just a fact.
oh this poor baby barely wins, but has so much courage to complain and say staff like "bad design" like he knows anything. I was impressed at first by his learnings, but now, watching him cry and not improving because of stubbornness and arrogance is just painful and discouraging. Hope the community treats you well, and I really hope you will get better and achieve your goals, no hate, just an observation and personal feelings towards the video
This Rangerzx guy is so obnoxious. Look up his recent DotA stream on Twitch, then find his game history with the game ID and look up his oldest game. Anyone with a brain can tell he's been playing DotA on-and-off on multiple accounts for more than 12 years. He reached immortal 3 months ago the same time 7.35 came out and Valve revamped the MMR system and everyone got a temporary boost of around 1000 MMR. Because there are very few Ancient/Divine players compared to other brackets, the system gave him 2 Immortal games where he got crushed, then he stopped playing on that account. He needs to trash DotA because his viewer base is LoL kids and he an't admit he's played the game for more than 12 years so he hides behind "I'm bad but you guys are worse". GIGA CRINGE.
but.. who cares? that's enough to teach a completely new player such as nemesis. what? you want pro players to teach every single new player? let it happen jeez
@@nazim9512 Not even though. If DotA players show enthusiasm towards Nemesis and comes to support his DotA journey, then this friend is in the background talking crap about DotA players, it's only fair we call him out on his lies? It's not about Dota vs Lol, it's about being an ass and getting called out for it.
@@simonteppelin4858 my new favourite schizoid theory is that rangerz was secretly preparing a dota climb for 12 years on secret accounts just so that he could flame lowelo dota players, thanks for the laughs bro
@@RossWasTaken Except it's super obvious? 2 time TI champion Ana famously didn't know how to creep aggro until he turned pro. But this guy with not enough games to encounter every hero knows all the meta builds and esoteric mechanics, and teach another player a hero that he's only played once in his 600 games? It's like watching a "new" Riven player flawlessly Q cancel in her first game. Your theory A player more talented than TI champions is a struggling LoL streamer instead of winning millions on a pro DotA team because DotA is below him. Obvious theory Like literally 50% of all moba players, the guy has been playing the game on multiple accounts which is why he "magically" shows game knowledge and mechanics on his main account. Thanks for the laugh schizo.
@@Mono-gr8xj yes im with you on that , actualy dota 2 has a soul better then league of legends but pls drop the ego and say the truth , it needs alot of fixing , in map and champions in spells many spells missing , items name and designe , and the very broken champions and the lag especialy the lag we can't even farming cs like that
@@mounirbilli7516 By design dota 2 is a lot more balanced than league, the tournas are the biggest proof of that specially with the diversity of games, which unfortunately league doesn't have
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Dota frog here, no idea who nemesis or ranger is until i found this vod channel. I gotta say i fucking love your guys sense of humor. Keep on baiting these elitist Dota/LoL "experts". Its funny af and it gatekeeps them. Makes the learning process more enjoyable. I also like the vibe where yall are trying to learn but also not taking it too seriously. Unlike some of your chatters. Keep it up guys. This is some good ass content.
Nemesis is one of the best western league player.
@@guspus3050And why he transitioned to play DOTA 2 just curious?
@@okie9065 probably because dota seemed fun to him and he wanted to try something new
@@okie9065 just for fun I suppose, he's not played pro for a few years now and hit rank 2 korea (maybe rank 1 at some point? idk for sure), i guess he wanted a new challenge
@@okie9065 He still plays league he's just trying out Dota for fun
I always love watching other pros from another game trying to learn dota. I greatly enjoyed grubby's journey in dota, and now i shall enjoy yours
Have you watched singsing's league videos from a few years ago? Funny as shit and great content
Man, I enjoy your content.
You seem chill and one thing is crazy: You're being told a mechanic once or twice and you memorize it and use it as often as possible. There are players that play the game for almost 20 years and they can't memorize things like tread switch, when to use BKB, how to farm lane+jungle.
You just need to learn to click some heroes at the top while you are dead. You can read all their abilities and their items. It makes the death time better
When I tried out league some years ago it felt so weird not being able to read other champ's abilities in game. It would make the learning process easier
Once Nemesis understands what all the items do I think he will start to have 10 times more fun with the game
I think once he starts reading what stuff do he might have 10 times more fun
weirdly vods are more enjoyable without chat
Yep, both league and dota have a terrible fansbase and if a streamer of one game tries the other your gonna get the worst of both
True.
League esports community is often pretty cringe
Yes
I dont even open chat when watching stream
17:29 quick tip for monkey king
if you have jingu and q you can just q the wave and get to full hp and not only that it also pushes the wave so you have prio for runes
Idk why this is so entertaining to watch
loving this so far!!
i like watching good league/dota players play the opposite game, you can tell they have a wealth of knowledge and mechanics they want to tap into but cant. would be exciting to see nemesis' journey like how grubby was
I mean, Ranger is not wrong, even at low elos League is a lot sweatier, and it's a lot easier to get away with clowing around in DotA
No it's not lol. If 1 pos 5 is hardcore stacking the jungle for the pos 1 and the other pos 5 is clowning around, one team will get stomped hard. Just because deaths matter less in dota doesn't mean you are allowed to clown around. That's how you know Ranger is trash at the game. Low elo LoL players aren't sweaty. They just autopilot and always fight without thinking, coin flipping every fight. That's not being sweaty, that's being dumb and lazy.
@@MT-so2mk I never said it was a good thing, I said it was easier
DOTA is a slower paced game and there is more room for mistakes as game has multiple ways to stop a "snowballing team". So you can definitely have some fun ;D
But of course that doesnt mean you can run it down mid and win 😝
League is a phone game. Enough said.
@@1VeryModestMouse Thats technically true 😂
Nemesis if you use Branch on ground to plant tree, and eat it with tangoe, it heals you 3x times longer, unlike regular tree tango, but cost you 50 gold branch :D
Finalmente estava esperando❤
Cant wait for the day nemesis discovers multi task hero- multi pushers(chen, lycan, lone druid)
Nemesis Meepo (one can hope)
good content
Just wait until Nemesis learns how to stack camps and deny entire waves using the stacked camps lol.
he's not a support player and never will be
@@suyunbek1399stacking camps isn’t exclusive to support.
Neither is denying waves.
@@jamyorday its nice to believe that sometimes lol
@@suyunbek1399shows how low you are. I'm mid. I stack my own. When creep way to far ahead near enemy tower, I go to My OWN stacks.
@@jamyordayprobably low MMR or maybe uncalibrated. Or worse, play only carry and never know how other roles doing their play.
Nemesis should watch True Sight 2019 whenever hes doing variety now that he's played monkey mid like 5 times already and seems to enjoy it (could also watch it with ranger so he can explain anything nemesis doesnt understand, like the skills of some heroes he hasnt seen yet in his games or something) idk hi twitch chat 📧
this game is so much more crazy to understand than league. lol so much going on..
Yeah, most of LoL's complexity is mastering your champ. The game plan is the same every game otherwise. Most Dota champs are super simple, but because of the nature of the game and map, the game plan can vary sooo much game per game.
Why are so many people calling techies a scripter just cause he is planting mines fast when its so easy to do that
cause league players lmao
@@el33tkrew been called scripter while playing techies mself just befause i spam bombs around me as i land my jump lmo
apparently they havent heard about quickcast lmao@@vgshiro1738
I saw so much angry comments about ranger in the last vods that I think it should be clarified that ranger and neme are irl friends and he isnt a professional dota coach. Its more like your big brother teaching you a game so yall could chill down a bit and not get butthurt for other people.
Wait, how is he teaching Nemesis how to play Lina, if he's only played Lina once in his entire life?
1:45:40 btw u always should break lvl1 (only tier1) dream coil (puck ult). she killed nemi cause of x2 dmg rune
Lina pode ser fazer build de dano físico também
Bro the fact that his league brain keeps kiting on dota is so triggering like you're making echo sabre passive useless and losing so many kills just by attack moving for no reason
KUNKA BEST CHAMP ON DOTA:)
JUST TRY IT
23:56 these people are the reason why you need to have 100 hours before rank match. In there you have no excuse, they gonna throw every slur at you for 1 small mistake
lol no, the reason is smurfs who buy accs play a bit and sell. How toxicity corellates with amount of hours played? There's always toxic players on high ranks, even more toxic than in normals
@@autist1cvoice lol no 100 hrs are needed so that there shouldn't be "I don't know how to ping" excuse bruh. 100 hrs should be enough for you to learn all things that need to know to play rank that doesn't mean there will be no toxicity but imagine how toxic it would be when your teammate don't even know how to ping
thats base thing on every ranked game. you was talking about toxicity which he experienced right in education games and on high rank theres much more toxicity as players care more about game@@frinsjunior7303
I actually agree with that AM. He just fucked their game by not listening to chat.
bro is dota really using HL SFX just because they are valve lmao
very impressive for only like a week, playing like an average dota player already
what command and for what ?
to unlock more complicated heroes since he chose beginner when he first opened the game.
I’m absolutely loving these. LoL’s design is abbysmal
Playing unranked and thinking thats how ranked is gonna go..... fucking hilarious
Damn i didnt watch nemesis before but is he even trying to learn
The first thing this coach should tell nemesis is to just read the abilities and items' descriptions... He's so clueless, doesn't even know what the items he's buying do
Homie comes off in the first 30 seconds looking like a jackass.
I don't think grubby was this bad when he first started 😂
Warcraft 3 is probably more similar to dota than league of legends. Grubby was also a top hots player as well.
@@spysc2721 thats bs and u know it. The core element of how a moba works and the objectives and mechanics, wc3 has non of those things and your telling us its more similar than league? The only similarity between wc3 and dota are probably just movement, denying and attribute/stat system. Sure, some heroes are straight up copies but even then, its alot easier for league players to get into dota than wc3 players. (atleast familiarity wise)
Grubby was worse
wat grubby was way worse lmao
@@spysc2721 Yeah warcraft 3 battlenet is literally where original Dota was created. I was there 2000 years ago
change the coach , I'm sure there are plenty passionate pro players or streamers who are happy to help you
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Dots is the only reason I watch your stream these days. Euw gameplay is uninteresting to me compared to kr.
Good decision to not include the last game. It was extremely frustrating to watch.
If your coach has no desire to teach, has no empathy for your frustration and has no respect for your own viewers then it's better for everyone that you get another coach
He’s his friend not a full time Dota coach, not that serious.
@@CocoXLargehe simply enjoys tilting dota elitists , it's not that complicated
tbf eu and Na have the worst DIvine in the game. their mechanical skills are archon at best when compared to SEA. seen a bunch of 5k noobs cant even land mars spear @@CocoXLarge
@@CocoXLarge idk i watched his streams when he was spamming dota and he steamrolled through to 5k with insane winrate, he's not lying.
@@CocoXLargeDota players could encounter a space engineer working at NASA and they will still think they are smarter or some kind of genius because they play a game, most insecure game fanbase i've seen in my life, just a fact.
oh this poor baby barely wins, but has so much courage to complain and say staff like "bad design" like he knows anything. I was impressed at first by his learnings, but now, watching him cry and not improving because of stubbornness and arrogance is just painful and discouraging. Hope the community treats you well, and I really hope you will get better and achieve your goals, no hate, just an observation and personal feelings towards the video
This Rangerzx guy is so obnoxious. Look up his recent DotA stream on Twitch, then find his game history with the game ID and look up his oldest game. Anyone with a brain can tell he's been playing DotA on-and-off on multiple accounts for more than 12 years.
He reached immortal 3 months ago the same time 7.35 came out and Valve revamped the MMR system and everyone got a temporary boost of around 1000 MMR. Because there are very few Ancient/Divine players compared to other brackets, the system gave him 2 Immortal games where he got crushed, then he stopped playing on that account.
He needs to trash DotA because his viewer base is LoL kids and he an't admit he's played the game for more than 12 years so he hides behind "I'm bad but you guys are worse".
GIGA CRINGE.
inb4 he privates his match history.
but.. who cares? that's enough to teach a completely new player such as nemesis. what? you want pro players to teach every single new player? let it happen jeez
@@nazim9512 Not even though. If DotA players show enthusiasm towards Nemesis and comes to support his DotA journey, then this friend is in the background talking crap about DotA players, it's only fair we call him out on his lies? It's not about Dota vs Lol, it's about being an ass and getting called out for it.
@@simonteppelin4858 my new favourite schizoid theory is that rangerz was secretly preparing a dota climb for 12 years on secret accounts just so that he could flame lowelo dota players, thanks for the laughs bro
@@RossWasTaken Except it's super obvious? 2 time TI champion Ana famously didn't know how to creep aggro until he turned pro. But this guy with not enough games to encounter every hero knows all the meta builds and esoteric mechanics, and teach another player a hero that he's only played once in his 600 games? It's like watching a "new" Riven player flawlessly Q cancel in her first game.
Your theory
A player more talented than TI champions is a struggling LoL streamer instead of winning millions on a pro DotA team because DotA is below him.
Obvious theory
Like literally 50% of all moba players, the guy has been playing the game on multiple accounts which is why he "magically" shows game knowledge and mechanics on his main account.
Thanks for the laugh schizo.
ranger is annoying
dota 2 need alot of fixing
? It needs way less fixing than league. The client is better, the balancing and game integrity is way better. What do you think needs fixing?
@@Mono-gr8xj yes im with you on that , actualy dota 2 has a soul better then league of legends but pls drop the ego and say the truth , it needs alot of fixing , in map and champions in spells many spells missing , items name and designe , and the very broken champions and the lag especialy the lag we can't even farming cs like that
@@mounirbilli7516 By design dota 2 is a lot more balanced than league, the tournas are the biggest proof of that specially with the diversity of games, which unfortunately league doesn't have
I hate how Ignorant LOL players are they just want same thing as LOL and they dont try to learn and just read the things the item do and all
This guy's ego is out of control.