MIT Card Counting Team - Masters of the Heist - Mike Aponte

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  • Learn how the MIT Blackjack Team from the movie 21 beat the casinos for millions. Features World Series of Blackjack Champion, Mike Aponte. You can learn more about card counting at MikeAponte.com
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  • @ALHat22
    @ALHat22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Not cheating advantage play

    • @marcain123
      @marcain123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I know her "cheating" comment disgust me

  • @ziconghuang7139
    @ziconghuang7139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "if card counting is illegal then lock me up."
    --Bretton Creed

  • @MONOPOLY35
    @MONOPOLY35 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I find the casino environment to be more comfortable than practice. In practice the cards are farther away from me and I'm dealing them. In casinos the cards are closer, so while I was used to focusing in more carefully, the casino environment required less focus. Also, the casino noise environment sounds more natural than blasting sound nearby. This gave me more ability to develop my act.

  • @derekmoore295
    @derekmoore295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She said when working in groups the big player has information that is “ not available to other people at the table” when is absolutely false. Anyone who puts the time in will know what the count is at all times and won’t join a shoe if they didn’t.

    • @leslielandberg5620
      @leslielandberg5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The takeaway was not that one person can't do it, the idea is that one person can only do maybe three or four tables, tops, so you waste a lot of time before one of those hits. With spotters, they can cover every table on the floor.

    • @derekmoore295
      @derekmoore295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leslielandberg5620 No... she said the “big player” (which in this case it doesn’t matter what player nor does teams or any of that have anything to do with what I said) “has information THAT ISNT AVAILABLE TO OTHER PLAYERS AT THE TABLE”.... 100% of the information is right in front of their eyes 👀 quite literally being shown to u face side up... 99%+ of BJ players just don’t actually put the time it takes to become an advantage blackjack player and capitalize on the edge the an average person can gain with just 200 hours of good practice/study time. The information couldn’t be more available so what she said is not only just an ignorant statement but it’s just the opposite of the truth...

  • @jazluvr99
    @jazluvr99 10 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    So, if card counters are "cheaters" (which this casino security woman, whoever she is, adamantly maintains) what about solo counters? She says counting is cheating when done as a team because the big player has "access to information that no one else at the table has". I guarantee she'd say that individual counter is still a cheater. I'm all for the free market and for the casinos to operate as they do, within the law. But people like this woman want suckers and losers only; that's how they built Vegas!

    • @sk863cuz
      @sk863cuz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don't see how people can call counting cheating. Its just using information thats available to everyone at the table to bet at the correct times. Casinos are little babies. They have no problem taking everyones money but if they only make 9 billion instead of 11 billion they start crying.

    • @steved8193
      @steved8193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ultimately any establishment can say to someone "Sorry, we don't want your business" without reason. But they can't prosecute, casinos have tried in the past and lost badly!

    • @TheHiredGun187
      @TheHiredGun187 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant play blackjack at any casino today. My math brain "card counts" without me even thinking about it
      It's BS that casinos can toss a player because they have the knowledge to beat the house

  • @trudeauzation
    @trudeauzation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 21 dealer in this video is so good, his execution goes unnoticed. ;)

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lies again? MRT MIT

  • @mkh1688
    @mkh1688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Knowing calculus is cheating at engineering

  • @elephantricity
    @elephantricity 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:00 says the lady who works for the casino...

  • @pranksterguy1
    @pranksterguy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you say "Thank you Al Francesco"?

  • @scotlandabroad1
    @scotlandabroad1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've watched all the videos on this and the MIT documentary. My question is: at what plus count should you start increasing your bets at? 1, 2, 4, 6? thankyou.

    • @danp322003
      @danp322003 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Start increasing at +5

    • @steved8193
      @steved8193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depends on the number of decks in the game. If it's a six or eight-deck shoe wait until roughly half the decks have been run through, then look for +8 counts.

    • @Jiggz9
      @Jiggz9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If your true count is 3 multiply your unit count by two. For example, if true count is 4 and you were betting $5 or $10, increase your bet to $20. If true count goes up to 5, now you are betting $50 or whatever.

    • @pranksterguy1
      @pranksterguy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Book

    • @derekmoore295
      @derekmoore295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1st you have to know the difference between true count and running count which you need to look up yourself but you raise your bet at a true 2. I personally raise my bet slightly at a true 1.5 but it depends on the rules of the game you play

  • @jameskline6926
    @jameskline6926 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some casinos won't let you enter mid shoe. There goes team play

    • @cakeboss1721
      @cakeboss1721 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Kline exactly

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Canadian Casino's they have to let you play but the burn is they scrap the shoe at 50% or so and start over with new decks.

  • @jackhannaway6432
    @jackhannaway6432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man just called hi lo the point counting system

    • @faris4068
      @faris4068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine using your right hand to adjust your tie

  • @AcesAndNates
    @AcesAndNates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What song is in the beginning?

  • @therealboomhauer69
    @therealboomhauer69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to be a part of the team

  • @lim7284
    @lim7284 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you got more + counting so the hi cards that still at the deck will be more so your chance become bigger to get the hi cards. But the dealer also has same chance to get the high cards.

    • @CoderBeast
      @CoderBeast 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you see, you can have multiple spots, which makes it interesting and positive EV for you

    • @lrbjr123
      @lrbjr123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      also, blackjacks 3:2

    • @PripyatPlayground
      @PripyatPlayground 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is why basic strategy is important.

    • @Jr-wx1cv
      @Jr-wx1cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dealer has a higher chance of busting

  • @jakemcgrae7539
    @jakemcgrae7539 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should i continue to read Life Contingent Risks ?
    is being an actuary better than edgesorting in bacarat or edge sorting in anything else?
    u can remember what cards were shown and add (or subtract) with whatever system u want at any time, that's not outlined in a lot of websites (or is it , i could just be showing my ignorance in the area).
    should i continue to read Actuarial Mathematics for Life Contingent Risks?
    can I be garunteed my money back at the bj or poker table (any)?

  • @leslielandberg5620
    @leslielandberg5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone here is taking notes and figuring out how to do it better! Wearing disguises would "up the ante", wouldn't it? Eventually these guys got recognized. But what a ride! Doctorates don't come cheap.

  • @ChudailItem
    @ChudailItem 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't how it's work I can count the card by hi low and I get 0 also how it's can make money how can we know where to bet big? Anybody know this?

    • @PripyatPlayground
      @PripyatPlayground 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Memorize basic strategy, then how to keep count.

  • @MyLife-og2kr
    @MyLife-og2kr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's only cheating, because the casino is losing.

    • @DJ-kk3co
      @DJ-kk3co ปีที่แล้ว

      Them damn Indians are greedy when white folk start giving them flashbacks

  • @joefran619
    @joefran619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever there's money there are people trying to get their fingers on it! Yes, no shit, their called Casinos!

  • @rusocanbismendoza8349
    @rusocanbismendoza8349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah that’s was back in the days at this time everyone getting smarter the casino it’s in the game ..

  • @guibox3
    @guibox3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not sure why there is such a crybaby attitude towards card counters. It is an advantage, not a guarantee. I have counted cards 4 times in the casinos and sometimes I do very well, and sometimes I get my ass handed to me even with a running count in the + double digits. Knowing how to count cards gives you more information (i.,e, I should hit here because the chances of me getting a low card are pretty good, whereas before, I might have chickened out and stayed), but it is no more 'cheating' than knowing more and better basic strategy than the average Joe blackjack player.

  • @lunataylor5091
    @lunataylor5091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not cheating. It's just people that are smart and people that are stupid.

  • @1Samseng
    @1Samseng 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    no a day casino has auto card shuffling machines,will you be able to get a true count from the game and how? You won't know how many decks of they are using..

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      52 cards in a deck. If you know the thickness of a deck it's not hard. Roofers do the same when estimating a roof without a ladder. A bundle spans a specific number of shingles one bundle goes 2 of those stretches 3 tabs and there you go. The diagonal you just count one end and ignore the other and it evens out.

    • @lewisreynolds5283
      @lewisreynolds5283 ปีที่แล้ว

      Continuous shuffle machines will be the death

  • @bigredbeanie3310
    @bigredbeanie3310 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    literally the hangover gang

  • @dlvmark
    @dlvmark 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You say you are almost ready. I can help... Email me

  • @hehehehhe2011
    @hehehehhe2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they are NOT cheating. It is their skills. Why is it legal for the casino to only pick weak players to play the game? This is blatant discrimination. It is just like you are good so you can't play.

  • @dlvmark
    @dlvmark 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike or anyone else want to start a team in So Cal? Send me a message.

    • @ELCLAVE300
      @ELCLAVE300 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in social. I'm down

    • @dlvmark
      @dlvmark 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lets do this!

    • @GorillaPimp69
      @GorillaPimp69 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmu , I think I'm almost there. Just some more practice . I live in SoCal also. Email me louie avila that's my extra account .

    • @jesusvelarde3137
      @jesusvelarde3137 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      riverside county!!!

    • @dlvmark
      @dlvmark 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus Velarde any casinos near you? I think poker is more profitable at least it does not take as big a bank roll to get started. We should talk.

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With plenty of websites for a patron to post negative reviews on, where thousands of people can read, are the casinos sure they want to risk getting a reputation, rightly or wrongly, of mistreating and expelling winners? How is that an incentive to a layman like me to go out there? Kicking out people who are good at playing is not good advertising! Beancounters are stupid!

  • @eshijimakatata5741
    @eshijimakatata5741 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought tommy dylan the king of blackjack.

  • @ElectrickSoundz
    @ElectrickSoundz ปีที่แล้ว

    😊😅😮😢🎉😂❤

  • @jbaru1211
    @jbaru1211 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they were inaccurate to say that your advantage comes from the dealer busting and the player gets more face cards. the entirety of your profitability is that blackjack pays 3:2

  • @CSJiGSaW08
    @CSJiGSaW08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:28 - That's bullshit, no way someone can count that fast. There must be an easier way

    • @DIRTY530BMXRACING
      @DIRTY530BMXRACING ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t need to count that fast but that’s far from BS lol

  • @DesignPredator
    @DesignPredator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Counting is “cheating”. It’s just being good a the game.

  • @justuscycling9341
    @justuscycling9341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *LOL* now I get it, in reality there never has been a MIT Blackjack Team. This is only movie bs lololol

  • @datingandlifeadvicechannel7534
    @datingandlifeadvicechannel7534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Card counting been around 1972 mIt Ed throp can near game of 21
    Execute knowledge
    Card counting
    Black jack odds changing
    Low cards bad high cards good blakcnjack dealer bust
    Point count systems equal number system
    Low cards and bad and high cards are good point count system
    Decks equal number high and low cards point count system
    Equal number high and low
    Low cards equal plus one
    High cards minus -1
    Low amount leave
    High amount bet