Out of like 20 tutorials on this, this is the only video that is actually thorough, concise, and sequential. I have no idea what the other videos were trying to do, but this is SOOOO HELPFUL!!! I can see from your signal path graph at 1:34 it would be pretty simple to add a mic'd amp to the end of the pedal chain too. SICK!!!!
Excellent! Like the connection diagrams as an aid. Other videos just talk through the connections, but the graphics really help visualize things. Kudos!
I've been trying to figure out if this is possible for quite some time. Now I'm very excited to try this out! Gunna hook up my big sky, time line and mobius 😁 I've always wanted to hear my vocals with these effects! Thanks heaps for the in depth tutorial!
I saw every vid and read everything I could find after receiving my extc stereo Even the included direction don’t explain the DAW routing like you have here I have Apollo and ProTools but at least I can see a working template Thanks for the vid it’s the only one with useful info👍
It's an irritating background track that makes it hard to focus on the dialog. I had to check my audio settings to be sure that I wasn't feedbacking into youtube. Beside that... it's a good tutorial.
That's an excellent example of when to use the I/O plugin inside Logic. It automatically compensates for latency when using outboard gear. No need to figure out the exact sample latency by ear. Great demonstration though!
Do you not need a reamp box to convert the line level signal back into a high impedance signal like what comes out of an actual guitar? Edit: ah ok, you addressed that later in the video
Awesome and very helpful video, man! Thanks! By the way, do you have a tutorial video on how to use these pedals on a dry guitar track instead of drums?
Thanks for the feedback! We dont have any plans to make a video on that, but if you use a guitar DI track (instead of a drum track like in the video) you can do the exact same thing shown in the video - you can even run it through an amp and mic it up if you want. This process is what most people refer to when they say "reamp" and there are tonnes of videos on TH-cam explaining it, so hopefully you can find something that will help you out
@@SandauxBeats We just uploaded another video explaining how to do this with guitars! Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/MPBPQ-c9ZZ0/w-d-xo.html Let us know if you have any other questions!
You come out of the back to go in the front? I'm trying to use the 18i8 to route a MOOD mk2 pedal using outputs 3-4 from the 18i8 into the MOOD and the the MOOD output into line inputs 5-6 on the back of the interface. I've been trying all day to no avail. I suspect it's something in Focusrite Control but for the life of me i don't know what it is.
My interface has 2 preamp inputs and 2 line inputs and 4 outputs. Can I use the line inputs for the pedals or do I need the preamped ones? Trying to run my guitar in one of the preamp inputs as well for playing live.
I'm a completely newbie and I still understand very little about these things. I got an ocean machine mooer (guitar pedal) with a focusrite-solo for xmas. I don't use guitar, I only use daw (ableton). Does the focusrite-solo work to connect the pedal to my pc or do I need a different audio interface (with more in/out-puts)? (I couldn't try to set everything up still because I miss some cables).
Really helpfull vídeo! I think the impedance problem doesn't appear if the fiesta pedal has a buffer but I'm not sure. I'm tryng to replicate the conexión like a real amp with amplitubre for the pre and the cab SIM but with real pedals something like 4 cable method
If I were to use a patchbay how would this work? (I’m looking to use a moog, korg and guitar with an eventide space pedal with patching, but also have the pedal be able work within my daw)
You always need to match impedance so if your shooting for line level from a mismatched source which will be 99% Of the time you need a RE-amp Your question should not be do I need one but which one to by I have 4 2 active for my passive feeds and 2 passive for my active feeds but it is fine to experiment with various pickups and RE-amp types because your not Sacrificing big tonal differences or picking up the noise from a mismatched impedance Learn to gain stage, learn to feed proper analog phase instead of digitally correcting it in post if you can and always match your impedance
I have a Behringer UMC22 with an audio input for a second instrument. Can that be used? (I appreciate I can't mix with this audio interface). Many thanks!
Hey there. Can you do a tutorial with Ableton? I have the same interface umc 404 but also have a lot of problems to connect my pedals to Ableton. Thanks. 😊😊🤗
Hi! I want to use exspression pedal m-audio ex-p with jack for controlling feedback of PSP-42 plugin in Ableton. But am i right with my plan? I have Traktor A10 sound card and my plan is to connect ts jack in MIC input of card. Will it work?
I don't understand why you've connected the playback outputs to ur speakers and not used the inserts on the back of the interface for connecting the pedals? wouldnt ur speakers be connected through the main output and as ur creating a bus obvs using send and returns would u send it through the insert on the back of the interface?
Can you use a amp sim like neural dsp rather then a pre-amp hardware this is where im confused. I only that plugging pedals directly into interface without some type of pre amp the sound will sound like shit
I'd really like to trying this with my interface, I don't think I have the right outputs. I have a Presonus Audiobox USB 96 interface, a Tech 21 YYZ overdrive pedal and my DAW is Cakewalk by Bandlab. I'm can't figure out how to route everything in Cakewalk, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
Hi! good video. So basically all you need is to connect your pedals into the interface and that's it? I have a question. Is there any way to modify the chain order of the mix between the physical pedals and the chain in the daw? For example, i have a physical compressor pedal. But i want to use it AFTER an Eq Plugin that is in the daw. Is that possible? thanks!
If you add your EQ plugin to the buss that is routed to your interface output, it will apply the EQ to your signal before it hits your compression pedal.
I also use Logic and my Audio interface is a Steinberg UR-44 and when I route it like you with my Strymon Flint it makes a constant high pitch tone. I guess this is the sound of the impedance mismatch requiring a reamping box?
Great info, well presented. It’s actually good to know this is pretty much how I do it. But certain details u have here are extremely helpful. But, really annoying and unnecessary BG music.
Out of like 20 tutorials on this, this is the only video that is actually thorough, concise, and sequential. I have no idea what the other videos were trying to do, but this is SOOOO HELPFUL!!! I can see from your signal path graph at 1:34 it would be pretty simple to add a mic'd amp to the end of the pedal chain too. SICK!!!!
Great video. Clear, concise, to the point. No mumbling, no over-explaining, no trying to be a "wacky personality" Subscribed
Excellent! Like the connection diagrams as an aid. Other videos just talk through the connections, but the graphics really help visualize things. Kudos!
I've been looking for a tutorial like this for quite some time. Thanks a lot for this video!
Thank you! Now my chorus pedal works as a send in Logic Pro 🎉
Do you need to use a reamp box?
I've been trying to figure out if this is possible for quite some time. Now I'm very excited to try this out! Gunna hook up my big sky, time line and mobius 😁 I've always wanted to hear my vocals with these effects!
Thanks heaps for the in depth tutorial!
I saw every vid and read everything I could find after receiving my extc stereo
Even the included direction don’t explain the DAW routing like you have here
I have Apollo and ProTools but at least I can see a working template
Thanks for the vid it’s the only one with useful info👍
It's an irritating background track that makes it hard to focus on the dialog. I had to check my audio settings to be sure that I wasn't feedbacking into youtube. Beside that... it's a good tutorial.
This is really helpful. I’m thinking of sending a Catlinbred Zero Point flanger as an insert.
Best tut out there
That's an excellent example of when to use the I/O plugin inside Logic. It automatically compensates for latency when using outboard gear. No need to figure out the exact sample latency by ear. Great demonstration though!
Dude i literally have this exact gear thank you so much for making this!! so helpful
This is an incredible video
Do you not need a reamp box to convert the line level signal back into a high impedance signal like what comes out of an actual guitar?
Edit: ah ok, you addressed that later in the video
Awesome, thanks. To the point and simply explained. 👍
Thanks, I was worried the signal level out of the interface would create issues but seems like it’s not.
very helpful video! However what can I do if I only have a UR22c as an interface?
can you do it on a scarlett 2i2 if you just use headphones instead of output to monitors as only 2 outputs points?
Thanks for the vid, may I recommedn the backgrounds sounds its some loud
Fantastic explanation. Thank you!
That was so cool ... Got my brain ticking! Now I want to do a million things ...
Why did you use the preamps insted of the Inserts (Behind de UMC404HD to the Right side) for this?
Awesome and very helpful video, man! Thanks! By the way, do you have a tutorial video on how to use these pedals on a dry guitar track instead of drums?
Thanks for the feedback! We dont have any plans to make a video on that, but if you use a guitar DI track (instead of a drum track like in the video) you can do the exact same thing shown in the video - you can even run it through an amp and mic it up if you want. This process is what most people refer to when they say "reamp" and there are tonnes of videos on TH-cam explaining it, so hopefully you can find something that will help you out
@@musicplanetnz Thank you so much!
@@SandauxBeats We just uploaded another video explaining how to do this with guitars! Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/MPBPQ-c9ZZ0/w-d-xo.html
Let us know if you have any other questions!
@@musicplanetnz Yeheeeyyy!!!!! Thank you!!!!
You come out of the back to go in the front? I'm trying to use the 18i8 to route a MOOD mk2 pedal using outputs 3-4 from the 18i8 into the MOOD and the the MOOD output into line inputs 5-6 on the back of the interface. I've been trying all day to no avail. I suspect it's something in Focusrite Control but for the life of me i don't know what it is.
Yes. You need to learn Focusrite Control for sure. Create a custom mix there and route whatever channels you want to those outputs on the 18i20
Thanks for the helpful video. Ask that hard work really helped explain everything clearly. Thank you!
Thanks, what if I also have a hardware instrument ? how can I include it to this chain ?
My interface has 2 preamp inputs and 2 line inputs and 4 outputs. Can I use the line inputs for the pedals or do I need the preamped ones? Trying to run my guitar in one of the preamp inputs as well for playing live.
I'm a completely newbie and I still understand very little about these things.
I got an ocean machine mooer (guitar pedal) with a focusrite-solo for xmas.
I don't use guitar, I only use daw (ableton).
Does the focusrite-solo work to connect the pedal to my pc or do I need a different audio interface (with more in/out-puts)?
(I couldn't try to set everything up still because I miss some cables).
Aren t the pedals Hi Z?
How does an expression pedal or wah pedal work with this? Same idea or different?
Hey - great video. Is there definitely no way this can be achieved with only one set of outputs? Cheers
Great, concise Vid.
Why are your monitors on playback out 1/2 instead of main output 1/2?
God…. I’m trying to do this with my re-150 and there no sound, following the exact same routing as this vid
tks!! really well explained
Really helpfull vídeo! I think the impedance problem doesn't appear if the fiesta pedal has a buffer but I'm not sure.
I'm tryng to replicate the conexión like a real amp with amplitubre for the pre and the cab SIM but with real pedals something like 4 cable method
Awesome!!! But with a delay can you send midi clock to the pedal?
If I were to use a patchbay how would this work? (I’m looking to use a moog, korg and guitar with an eventide space pedal with patching, but also have the pedal be able work within my daw)
How do you know when you need a reamp low impedance to high impedance box?
You always need to match impedance so if your shooting for line level from a mismatched source which will be 99%
Of the time you need a RE-amp
Your question should not be do I need one but which one to by
I have 4
2 active for my passive feeds and 2 passive for my active feeds but it is fine to experiment with various pickups and RE-amp types because your not
Sacrificing big tonal differences or picking up the noise from a mismatched impedance
Learn to gain stage, learn to feed proper analog phase instead of digitally correcting it in post if you can and always match your impedance
Aren't pedals, especially guitar ones, requiring instrument level signal as an input, not line one (which is hotter)?
I have a Behringer UMC22 with an audio input for a second instrument. Can that be used? (I appreciate I can't mix with this audio interface). Many thanks!
Hey there. Can you do a tutorial with Ableton?
I have the same interface umc 404 but also have a lot of problems to connect my pedals to Ableton.
Thanks. 😊😊🤗
How high should be the gain of the input on the sound card?
Would this work as well with a multi fx pedal like, say, the Boss GX100. Thanks.
Hi! I want to use exspression pedal m-audio ex-p with jack for controlling feedback of PSP-42 plugin in Ableton. But am i right with my plan? I have Traktor A10 sound card and my plan is to connect ts jack in MIC input of card. Will it work?
well I have an UFX RME, I wanna use an eventide pitch factor and it still doesn't work... what's the way to do it ?
I don't understand why you've connected the playback outputs to ur speakers and not used the inserts on the back of the interface for connecting the pedals? wouldnt ur speakers be connected through the main output and as ur creating a bus obvs using send and returns would u send it through the insert on the back of the interface?
Can you use a amp sim like neural dsp rather then a pre-amp hardware this is where im confused. I only that plugging pedals directly into interface without some type of pre amp the sound will sound like shit
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I'd really like to trying this with my interface, I don't think I have the right outputs. I have a Presonus Audiobox USB 96 interface, a Tech 21 YYZ overdrive pedal and my DAW is Cakewalk by Bandlab. I'm can't figure out how to route everything in Cakewalk, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
It doesnt work with my Apollo and Hypnosis effect box
Hi! good video. So basically all you need is to connect your pedals into the interface and that's it?
I have a question. Is there any way to modify the chain order of the mix between the physical pedals and the chain in the daw? For example, i have a physical compressor pedal. But i want to use it AFTER an Eq Plugin that is in the daw. Is that possible? thanks!
If you add your EQ plugin to the buss that is routed to your interface output, it will apply the EQ to your signal before it hits your compression pedal.
How about for multi fx?
subscribed!
does this work as well without the mix knob? ie with a focusrite for instance? can i use the effects before going into the AI?
u don't need a reamp device?
I talk about this issue at around 7:56 - it can be an issue sometimes, but in this example it seemed to have worked out ok without a reamp box
Does it work with the RCA output?
if i got 4 pedals how many output i need on my interface ?
So re-amping / impedance conversion between line-level and instrument-level isn't a thing in todays pedals??
omg finally i find this
I need someone to explain this on studio one do know anyone 🤔
Thank you thank you thank you
Will the scarlett 4i4 work with no additional equipment?
Short answer yes.
I also use Logic and my Audio interface is a Steinberg UR-44 and when I route it like you with my Strymon Flint it makes a constant high pitch tone. I guess this is the sound of the impedance mismatch requiring a reamping box?
Same story man. What’s so weird is that I was able to do it the very first time I tried and then ever since that first time it isn’t working for me.
You can do this even with just a pair of outputs
awesome
This doesn't work in fl?
Great info, well presented. It’s actually good to know this is pretty much how I do it. But certain details u have here are extremely helpful.
But, really annoying and unnecessary BG music.
Do you have autotune on your mic? Sounds strange.
The background music is too overpowering the vocals to even hear what your saying. WHY?
Tried it with a guitar audio track lots of squealing :(
But what we saw, you using overdrive instead bigsky cause your overdrive is at 1st on chain
hmmmmm ....
Hi can I pay you for a phone call
Great tutorial. I just wish you hadn't't used that repetitious background music. I'll try to ignore it.
Sorry mate. That background music was torture.
Turn the background music down ffs.
the background music is sucks