I seriously thought I had accidentally skipped forward, he basically described it was possible and have fun. He didnt even describe what the blue box was, reamp or DI? Instructional for inserting a effect loop using a interface is oddly hard to find
I already get it for the most part, the other details like input output vary depending on your DAW. With that being said it seems like this is geared towards more intermediate sound engineers rather than beginners. That's probably why he didn't go into much detail
As a guy getting onto the electronic music scene after years of being in a band this is the way forward for me, plug-ins are inherently better for simple things I get it and when I have the money for a decent reverb I'll pay it but that's just the fact, plugins that don't sound souless are few and the same price as boutique pedals at times with no re sell value. I'll definitely be experimenting with my pedals down the line. Also something to keep on mind is the guitar pedal industry is highly competitive so they spend a long time coming up with blends of sounds to make a pedal interesting, straight away my boss tera echo comes to mind, I barely used it live just for small parts some gigs but it could be a really interesting addition through an FL studio track, at the end of the day no plugin would sell sounding like a terra echo hah
I have to challenge the idea of plugins being soulless. Add a tape plugin with some flutter and wow dialled in, add a distortion plugin and then whack it through some book-ended EQ and you have a unique-to-you plugin delay or chorus or whatever. I love practical effects save use then when budget allows, but rarely do they provide something you can't fake well enough in the mix!
I once put a snare track through a Tube Screamer into a cranked Blackstar HT-5 and man that gave it some balls! Had to compensate for latency but it was well worth the experiment.
have been running a mixdown of multiple tracks through an overdrive pedal, then heavily compressing it. this provides a "glue/grit" layer that i mix back in. works great for a unified/warm vibe
That is a DIY reamp box. It also has an attenuator so that you can play with the level and get really creative. It's $59 plus a little soldering (took me five minutes to make). I have 3 and use them all the time! Thought that would help anyone who can't afford a radial one.
yes...love it. I'm totally trying this soon. I did something similar couple weeks ago. ran a mic through a small pre amp for phantom power then into a splitter (the direct thru went into my DAW) the split (transformed) signal went to > mixing board mic input>pre fader aux send to my guitar pedals > to a DI box >pre amp >DAW. I mixed them in post and the vocals sound sick!!!
I´m going to use guitarist's analog delay (EHX memory man, nothing special) for vocal in "half acoustic song". I tried it even without reamp box and results were quite satisfing - much warmer than digital simulations I had chance to hear and nice feel of depth in the song. I was waiting till the end you´ll show something. Maybe it would be awesome to tell us in next video your wildest idea with these stomp boxes...
Yeah, I have been doing some work around the studio and had to make a quick video. Glad to hear you thought the analog delay was better than plug ins. It's amazing how many good effects are out there.
I thought you only need reamp to convert mic > line level aka low-z > hi-z... why do you need the reamp box to go from an interface's line level out into pedals? Isn't the line-out of an interface the same impedance as any keyboard out or regular line level instrument that can be used with pedals?
What a great idea. Have been re-amping essentially to get my pedals in the chain (not necessarily the amp itself). Now with a dry DI guitar track I can use my pedals and not worry about microphones and their placing, but get the effects I want on it. Top tip.
Couldn't figure out why my Digitech Trio was sounding so bad... and then stumbled on your video. After watching your video, I think I've got a high/low impedance thing going on. Thanks, Ryan.
I believe my Buzz Audio MIA will do this all in one, reamp and DI, but if not, it can do the reamp duty and then my interface has a HiZ input anyway. I want to use the Reecho Pro.
I am researching using effects pedals with audio interface for my live rig. I have just got a Macbook pro with guitar rig 6. I am using a Native instruments audio 6 interface. The reason behind this is I got fed up of carrying big amp stacks around. I have collected a lot of useful pedals which I hope to hook up. I like my Decimator for noise reduction. I have an Eventide H9 and a TC electronic nova. I am thinking of hooking up the guitar to the decimator then into the interface. The other effects I want to plug in from the out of the interface. The logic behind this is that it is less work for the Mac and I will be able to change patches and switch effects on and off live. Maybe eventually midi it all up and have my DAW change effects so I don't have to stomp on a box with my foot. I can just put everything into a sports bag and go to a gig on the bus.
You've convinced me, but what in the name of the Transparent Bison Who Controls Us All is "this [blue] box"? Perhaps you could favor us with the model, brand name and/or generic category (as you did with, to use your hermetic terminology, the "direct box").
Thanks. I know this is a few years old now but I was struggling with the Line level/Instrument level back into my pre-amp and of course the DI box was the solution.
Interesting video, and got me thinking about what I need for this very purpose. Thanks! Like others, however, I would have appreciated more detail. For instance, will the re-amp and DI boxes change the tone of original performance AND the pedal in the effects loop? Can this be helped? Can you run this into an interface's DI input instead of DI box --> preamp? etc.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. This is a "huge deal" to be able to achieve what you described, really very very cool .... However ! I'm gonna echo the other posts... Please come back with another video and give... 1. examples of exactly what the blue pedal is, manufacturer etc 2. The same with the black pedal 3. do an example showing everything hooked up. Big Thanks
Hey man great video. I understood your point with the DI box, but my question is, is there any real noticeable changes with or without the DI box? Let's say I'm just sending my signal from one of my outputs on the interface to bring it back to one of the inputs and record the processed signal. Would that be considerably noticeable without having the box?
REEEEAAAALLLLY wished you showed the setup so I could physically follow since so many of these words went over my head BUT I’ll use what I have. Thanks for the video🤘🏼
I use the 1818vsl interface, Littlelabs 3D phantom re-amp box DI box with a Boss GT-8 effects board and a cheap old semi broken Fender amp that only works on one setting. Thank you Ryan, would love too meet you in person one day. 😎
I have used my Eventide Time Factor to do this. The delays are better than any plugin that I have tried. This is maybe due to the fact that I know the Eventide so well.
Can I substitute the DI box with a USB interface instead? (Focusrite Scarlett Solo) Also, for multi-effects units like the Boss ME-80 or the Line 6 stuff which have direct record, is it better to use the direct record or do I place an audio interface in between the effects unit and the computer?
So we can’t go directly from chain back into an input that has a line/instrument switch? My Focusrite 4i4 for example has this option and I assumed was there specifically to change to line level..?
I would like your opinion... You mentioned, a DI box is needed. Wouldn't a preamp with a Hi-Z input (for electric guitars or basses) be sufficient for sending the signal back in the DAW?
I gate toms and distort the hell out of them. Then I blend them back in parallel. It sounds cool. You have to check the alignment and rotate the phase coming back in though.
Hi! Thanks for a very cool video! I'm also interested in learning how to use this technique. Over the years I collected a bunch of different guitar stompboxes/pedals by BOSS and other vendors. For example, a wha-wha, many distortion pedals, a digital delay, an ensamble chorus, a tremolo, etc. For my "home studio setup" I use a Win 10-computer, a USB Audio Interface (AI) by Steinberg called "UR44". It has 4 "good quality" pre-amps (D-pre's) in it that equals to: 2 MIC/Hi-z and 2 MIC/Line Inputs on the card. My DAW is Cubase Pro 10. My question is, would I also need to have all the other equipment you mentioned, the DI-box, the pre-amp and the re-amp box? Or could I skip the DI-box at least, since the card should already provide with that "signal conversion"? Could I just connect a guitar stompbox directly to one of the MIC/Hi-z input on the Audio card itself? Or would I still need a re-amp box at least? I want to try this out because I hope it would open up many, new possibilites for me when recording/mixing in my home studio. Ty for any advice! :D
Do you think I could do a chain like this? Guitar>Instrument in 1>line out>reamp box>instrument in 2 Im getting really confused with all the different levels
So I have a T Rex Replicator pedal that uses real tape for saturation/delay/chorus, and I’ve wanted to use it to add some tape saturation to my mixes by putting not just one instrument through it but a whole project. The problem is I only have the 1 pedal and it has only 1 mono input and 1 mono output 😰 so I’m not sure how to go about this lol
Hold on, so here's what I want to do. I have a Behringer X1204USB mixer. I want to plug a noise gate pedal into the aux send and return. Can I simply do that? Or do I need these pre-amps?
Hi Ryan, have u seen these UMC204HD behringer interfaces? These come with "insert" inputs, one for each input channel wich i guess does the same as what u were saying... Or am i sayin nonsenses?
Can these pedals be used for only like guitar and vocals or more things because guitar is amid range instrument? Was thinking of making the big sky my main reverb for my daw would that be a good idea thanks ?
Without the DI box, the signal will clip right? But what if I had all my effects in the chain in the most minimal level, would it still clip? I'll be using a Presonus AudioBox 96.
Ryan, so would be that signal chain? Play the track you want through one of the outputs of your interface (that would be line, not mike despite the xlr cable, but balanced) than into the reamp box , the the output of the reamp (that would be unbalanced, but line level) into the pedals. Afted the pedals, into the input of the DI box then into the preamp (an instrumemt preamp of an interface for instance) What about guitar pedals into vocals? From the pedals into the DI and then to a mike preamp of the interface? Is that right?
How do you deal with latency compensation from going out to hardware then back in DAW? Don't have stomp boxs, but I did use a cassette adapter for some saturation in using vintage boombox then going back in the Daw with 1/4 inch adapter. I had to guess where the audio signal should start to compensate for latency. I tried everything with latency compensation and couldn't get them to phase cancel a bit with polarity test. Worked out fine,but it is annoying.
Yeah that is annoying. For me I try to go all the way out with tracks, rather than mix processed sounds with unprocessed. Depending on what I'm doing, I might play a track through without the pedals activated to get a dry track to mix with the processed. You can also play the click track through the chain, and measure what latency your getting.
creativesoundlab I tried latency compensation plug ins with no luck. Can't get everything perfect with latency,but at least it sounds good and thats all that matters. but the engineer voice in my head says thats about .0159 ms off time no matter how many times you move it lol. The hand work takes time so right now i rarely use any hardware or AKA what ever is around to plug into to. If i had a console and real outboard gear i would send everything out to console/out board gear and back in DAW to line them all up without having to do all that hand work. A video on this would be great for many getting into hardware and I couldn't find anything on it for being in a situation where only a few things are going out to hardware then back in, even though it should be basic knowledge.
Hey Ryan, is it possible to take that high impedance output from the reamped signal back into your interface if it allows for instrument level inputs? e.g. Focusrite Scarlets Love your work dude, always pushes my creativity!
Creative Sound Lab yeah using one of the monitor outputs, to my pedal, then back into a preamp seems to work ok. I know engineers love their DIs and seem to use them constantly "just in case" but I have 24 mono channels of different synths and drum kits, I just let the octopre s handle it, get the gain staging right.
So im extremely new to all of this. So i may be misunderstanding. But I have an interface that has line outputs (1/4"), can I just run an output to the pedals, then back into the interface? Because the purpose of the blue box you have is to convert xlr to 1/4", right? So if i already have a 1/4" output I can just run 1/4" through everything then back into my interface that has preamps built in.
So how to put an analog delay pedal etc behind a distorted amp sim (so the delay wont get distorted) for a guitar running trough a focusrite 6i6 second gen? No problem putting the delay in front of everything. Problem is getting that delay after amp sim.
Why wouldn’t you just buy an XLR to TRS cable, run your mic through your effects, into your interface, and into your daw? This seems simpler to me. Edit:Spelling
My pedals like chorus or delay all work fine even without a di box if I go straight into the interface except the distortion pedal...why? Can you help me?
great video! i've seen your videos a while back and they helped me out a lot but I forgot to subscribe. did now. I have a question. If I have an instrument level input on my interface, do I need the DI box?
Nope, just go in from the pedals into the DI. That's what it's designed to do, unless you want to experiment with different DI circuits. Type 85 and JDI are ones that I use and respect.
Thanks for this! I'd love to hear some examples if possible. For our initial demo tracks we did bass direct through my pedal board going out of a sansamp but didn't have a reamp box in front and that's why we ended up micing the cabs for the real recording. this could be a whole series because it's right up my alley! btw, I saw the countryman box. What are your thoughts on that when side by side with a sansamp?
Hmm, well the sansamp is a staple around studios. It's a great way to get a distorted bass sound. But it's a different type of deal. I use the countryman for clean-as-possible type recording of guitar and such. I use a passive DI for a little more flavor for the bass. Me did a shootout once against an Avalon and it was just as good or better. The reamp box just converts signals from a DAW into the guitar world, so a reamp box is it's own thing.
Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)
Hi Ryan, my interface only has 2 main outputs, I want to be able to use an outboard compressor and remap tracks and use guitar pedals when mixing. I was thinking of getting the big knob so I could send one output of it to my monitors and the other to a compressor or reamo box and be able to switch between both on the big knob and then back into the interface to record. Do you think this would work? Would I lose and quality in the audio? Or do you have any other solutions to allow me to use outboard equipment with only 2 main ohyouts on my interface? Thanks Alex
Exactly what I was willing to do for a while. Got a bunch of guitar pedals that I can't substitute with plugins (although I might find good VST alternatives eventually). And I don't like to record with pedals - especially for double tracked guitars since effects tend to behave a bit differently in stereo. BUT that also requires an interface with at least three outputs, right? And that's completely different price range from cheap 2i/2o usb interfaces :( Not sure if I want to upgrade solely for this purpose...
Yeah, you have a good point. If your first two outputs are occupied by your left and right monitors then you'd need at least a 3 output. Of coarse you can always disconect your right monitor to feed a pedal, and use the left to monitor. It's a pain but it can be done.
hei, this is a great video, I have some questions though, what if I have a Stereo In/Out Pedal, what kind of reamp do you recommend in that case, and if my interface has build in preamps can I take the stereo outputs of my pedal directly into interface?! thank you
just curious, have you had any luck configuring your pedal to interface to DAW yet? i'm still trying to see if there's a way to do this without the preamp, but it looks like i'm gonna have to buy one anyways. sigh..
That's what I'm wondering. I do this as well without reamp box. Why do we need reamp box, if anyone could tell me the reason. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong :-)
How about this. From Electic Guitar itself to Effect Pedal to computer and record with Guitar Recording Software. Is that even possible? Coz I dont have any Interface only of those.
I would really like to try out the extc by radial and use that to control my guitar fx post recording . My only concern would be latency induced signals . Is ok to move a wave track back a few milliseconds or use another tool like the ibp by littlelabs to align the signal back into a session to blend with the original signal ? Also how would you use delay and reverb if stereo was desired ? Wouldn’t that mean I would need two extc boxes and two ibp’s ?
I like to record my keyboard with its own effects, effects that I edit myself on the keyboards. But, one time a guy confused me saying that we should record the keyboard turning off all the effects so he can add effects from the plug ins in protools. Please tell me that he was wrong.
Well there is more flexibility when you don't include your effects on top of the dry sound. It's hard to compressed a keyboard sound if there is tons of reverb or delay on it already.
I am curious if the analogue guitar modulation pedals (such as phaser/flanger) are actually better than the plug ins? Guess I have to try it out to find out!
Yeah, I would love to compare them, but I don't own the softward or want to spend money on it. Pretty sure the real thing smokes the emualtions, but the emulations are easy to adjust if you change your mind on the settings ect.
Does the impedance match using a transparent pedal like wha /whammy /volume directly into a audio Interface? Wanting to use these pedals with bias amp sim! Thanks
You need a way to get signals to the amp (Reamp box) and then you need a way to get back in (Mic and preamp). Consider that a amp turns electrical signals into real sound waves in the room...and you need a mic for that. Use just pedals....not amp needed, just use a DI or Hi-z input.
Hi! great video! one question, It's freaking me out...if I would want to use this chain : guitar ---> overdrive pedal ---> daw (amp simulator VST) ---> delay pedal Delay should be at the end of the chain (REAMP) but... what about the overdrive? no possibility to use on the reamp section, isn't it? I think there is no possibility to insert the AMP SIM between both pedals in the REAMP section. Thanks in advance!
I would say that go with it and don't fret. Come back in a couple days and see if you still like how it sounds. Give it time and it'll be clear if it was a bad idea or not sonically.
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Nice video but would have been good had you shown it practically.
exactly. why didnt he do that its like 1 minute work.
I seriously thought I had accidentally skipped forward, he basically described it was possible and have fun. He didnt even describe what the blue box was, reamp or DI? Instructional for inserting a effect loop using a interface is oddly hard to find
I agree
I already get it for the most part, the other details like input output vary depending on your DAW. With that being said it seems like this is geared towards more intermediate sound engineers rather than beginners. That's probably why he didn't go into much detail
I've used a tube screamer for parallel saturation on vocals, acoustic guitars, and drums. It can really help to add some warmth to the tracks!
Nice!
As a guy getting onto the electronic music scene after years of being in a band this is the way forward for me, plug-ins are inherently better for simple things I get it and when I have the money for a decent reverb I'll pay it but that's just the fact, plugins that don't sound souless are few and the same price as boutique pedals at times with no re sell value. I'll definitely be experimenting with my pedals down the line.
Also something to keep on mind is the guitar pedal industry is highly competitive so they spend a long time coming up with blends of sounds to make a pedal interesting, straight away my boss tera echo comes to mind, I barely used it live just for small parts some gigs but it could be a really interesting addition through an FL studio track, at the end of the day no plugin would sell sounding like a terra echo hah
I have to challenge the idea of plugins being soulless. Add a tape plugin with some flutter and wow dialled in, add a distortion plugin and then whack it through some book-ended EQ and you have a unique-to-you plugin delay or chorus or whatever. I love practical effects save use then when budget allows, but rarely do they provide something you can't fake well enough in the mix!
You explained everything thoroughly & well but I just couldn’t follow you without seeing exactly what was going on. Nice video though! 💯
I once put a snare track through a Tube Screamer into a cranked Blackstar HT-5 and man that gave it some balls! Had to compensate for latency but it was well worth the experiment.
Sweet dude! I love hearing about stuff like this!
have been running a mixdown of multiple tracks through an overdrive pedal, then heavily compressing it. this provides a "glue/grit" layer that i mix back in. works great for a unified/warm vibe
That is a DIY reamp box. It also has an attenuator so that you can play with the level and get really creative. It's $59 plus a little soldering (took me five minutes to make). I have 3 and use them all the time! Thought that would help anyone who can't afford a radial one.
I usually put a Boss DS-1 on a snare drum and screw it up, then print that and blend it in for texture
Very cool!
yes...love it. I'm totally trying this soon.
I did something similar couple weeks ago.
ran a mic through a small pre amp for phantom power then into a splitter (the direct thru went into my DAW) the split (transformed) signal went to > mixing board mic input>pre fader aux send to my guitar pedals > to a DI box >pre amp >DAW.
I mixed them in post and the vocals sound sick!!!
The ''blue box'' is the Radial ProRMP 1-channel Passive Re-Amping Device
I´m going to use guitarist's analog delay (EHX memory man, nothing special) for vocal in "half acoustic song". I tried it even without reamp box and results were quite satisfing - much warmer than digital simulations I had chance to hear and nice feel of depth in the song. I was waiting till the end you´ll show something. Maybe it would be awesome to tell us in next video your wildest idea with these stomp boxes...
Yeah, I have been doing some work around the studio and had to make a quick video. Glad to hear you thought the analog delay was better than plug ins. It's amazing how many good effects are out there.
Would it work if I went from my interface straight to the effect and then straight from the effect to the preamp?
I thought you only need reamp to convert mic > line level aka low-z > hi-z... why do you need the reamp box to go from an interface's line level out into pedals? Isn't the line-out of an interface the same impedance as any keyboard out or regular line level instrument that can be used with pedals?
Mixing Engenier Vance Powell has been using this technique for years now... he even sticks them to his effects Rack with Velcro.
Thank you so much, this information is life saving. I've been so confused trying to get my gear to not sound horrible through my computer.
John Smith I feel your struggle my dude, we shall reach the promise land haha
What a great idea. Have been re-amping essentially to get my pedals in the chain (not necessarily the amp itself). Now with a dry DI guitar track I can use my pedals and not worry about microphones and their placing, but get the effects I want on it. Top tip.
Yes! No mics, but instead a DI. Let me know how it works out!
It what be great if you actually show us with direct example and sound samples
So this setup he is referring to goes like this:
Sound Source > Re Amp Box > Effects Chain > D I Box > Computer Interface/ Mixer
Is that right
Couldn't figure out why my Digitech Trio was sounding so bad... and then stumbled on your video. After watching your video, I think I've got a high/low impedance thing going on. Thanks, Ryan.
I believe my Buzz Audio MIA will do this all in one, reamp and DI, but if not, it can do the reamp duty and then my interface has a HiZ input anyway. I want to use the Reecho Pro.
I am researching using effects pedals with audio interface for my live rig. I have just got a Macbook pro with guitar rig 6. I am using a Native instruments audio 6 interface. The reason behind this is I got fed up of carrying big amp stacks around. I have collected a lot of useful pedals which I hope to hook up. I like my Decimator for noise reduction. I have an Eventide H9 and a TC electronic nova. I am thinking of hooking up the guitar to the decimator then into the interface. The other effects I want to plug in from the out of the interface. The logic behind this is that it is less work for the Mac and I will be able to change patches and switch effects on and off live. Maybe eventually midi it all up and have my DAW change effects so I don't have to stomp on a box with my foot. I can just put everything into a sports bag and go to a gig on the bus.
why using a D.I box ? can you just use the soundcard preamps instead?
You've convinced me, but what in the name of the Transparent Bison Who Controls Us All is "this [blue] box"? Perhaps you could favor us with the model, brand name and/or generic category (as you did with, to use your hermetic terminology, the "direct box").
would have like to see you set it up ...still don't know how to do it
Thanks. I know this is a few years old now but I was struggling with the Line level/Instrument level back into my pre-amp and of course the DI box was the solution.
Could you also hook it up to a mixer aux?
Interesting video, and got me thinking about what I need for this very purpose. Thanks! Like others, however, I would have appreciated more detail. For instance, will the re-amp and DI boxes change the tone of original performance AND the pedal in the effects loop? Can this be helped? Can you run this into an interface's DI input instead of DI box --> preamp? etc.
I'm hands on, showing the connections etc... Would have been a big help.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. This is a "huge deal" to be able to achieve what you described, really very very cool .... However !
I'm gonna echo the other posts... Please come back with another video and give...
1. examples of exactly what the blue pedal is, manufacturer etc
2. The same with the black pedal
3. do an example showing everything hooked up. Big Thanks
Hey man great video. I understood your point with the DI box, but my question is, is there any real noticeable changes with or without the DI box? Let's say I'm just sending my signal from one of my outputs on the interface to bring it back to one of the inputs and record the processed signal. Would that be considerably noticeable without having the box?
Same question
Found this very helpful for finding the best way to run a send and return on my console. Thanks!
thanks bro, you really know your stuff and helped come to grips with it.
Just found this channel. This info is invaluable. Thanks!
Awesome video! Good explanation. Since most reamp boxes are mono how would you handle stereo pedals? Would you need to reamp boxes and 2 di boxes?
REEEEAAAALLLLY wished you showed the setup so I could physically follow since so many of these words went over my head BUT I’ll use what I have. Thanks for the video🤘🏼
So the signal chain will be guitar->pedals->reamp->audio interface? am i right?
I use the 1818vsl interface, Littlelabs 3D phantom re-amp box DI box with a Boss GT-8 effects board and a cheap old semi broken Fender amp that only works on one setting.
Thank you Ryan, would love too meet you in person one day. 😎
Wow dude, your set up sounds sweet. Would love to meet you too. Where about in the world are you?
I've actually used a simulated clean guitar preamp in my daw to get some really cool and clicky kick drum sounds.
I have used my Eventide Time Factor to do this. The delays are better than any plugin that I have tried. This is maybe due to the fact that I know the Eventide so well.
Can I substitute the DI box with a USB interface instead? (Focusrite Scarlett Solo)
Also, for multi-effects units like the Boss ME-80 or the Line 6 stuff which have direct record, is it better to use the direct record or do I place an audio interface in between the effects unit and the computer?
So we can’t go directly from chain back into an input that has a line/instrument switch? My Focusrite 4i4 for example has this option and I assumed was there specifically to change to line level..?
I would like your opinion... You mentioned, a DI box is needed. Wouldn't a preamp with a Hi-Z input (for electric guitars or basses) be sufficient for sending the signal back in the DAW?
Thanks, mate!
What kind of preamp were you using? That’s the only piece of equipment I’m missing from this setup. Thanks for the information, great video!
Great tutorial man! Always fun to come back to this one
What tutorial? It was more of a suggestion.
The Eventide Space (pedal) works awesomely well. Especially in stereo.
Gosh I bet that sounds amazing in stereo.
Thank so so much for making it easy to understand u help a lot of people
dang buddy, no playtime demo?
I focus on the mixer. What kind of mixer you use?
I gate toms and distort the hell out of them. Then I blend them back in parallel. It sounds cool. You have to check the alignment and rotate the phase coming back in though.
Sounds like it would sound really cool man. I love distorting stuff and blending in subtly.
Hi! Thanks for a very cool video!
I'm also interested in learning how to use this technique.
Over the years I collected a bunch of different guitar stompboxes/pedals by BOSS and other vendors. For example, a wha-wha, many distortion pedals, a digital delay, an ensamble chorus, a tremolo, etc.
For my "home studio setup" I use a Win 10-computer, a USB Audio Interface (AI) by Steinberg called "UR44". It has 4 "good quality" pre-amps (D-pre's) in it that equals to: 2 MIC/Hi-z and 2 MIC/Line Inputs on the card. My DAW is Cubase Pro 10.
My question is, would I also need to have all the other equipment you mentioned, the DI-box, the pre-amp and the re-amp box? Or could I skip the DI-box at least, since the card should already provide with that "signal conversion"? Could I just connect a guitar stompbox directly to one of the MIC/Hi-z input on the Audio card itself? Or would I still need a re-amp box at least?
I want to try this out because I hope it would open up many, new possibilites for me when recording/mixing in my home studio.
Ty for any advice! :D
Do you think I could do a chain like this?
Guitar>Instrument in 1>line out>reamp box>instrument in 2
Im getting really confused with all the different levels
So I have a T Rex Replicator pedal that uses real tape for saturation/delay/chorus, and I’ve wanted to use it to add some tape saturation to my mixes by putting not just one instrument through it but a whole project. The problem is I only have the 1 pedal and it has only 1 mono input and 1 mono output 😰 so I’m not sure how to go about this lol
Hold on, so here's what I want to do. I have a Behringer X1204USB mixer. I want to plug a noise gate pedal into the aux send and return. Can I simply do that? Or do I need these pre-amps?
Hi Ryan, have u seen these UMC204HD behringer interfaces? These come with "insert" inputs, one for each input channel wich i guess does the same as what u were saying... Or am i sayin nonsenses?
Can't wait to try this! I have a reamp box and a direct box coming to me soon. :)
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Love doing this 👌
How can I do this with my Steinberg UR22?? Is it possible? It only got 2 Outputs... I really hope you can help me out.. Thanks
Can these pedals be used for only like guitar and vocals or more things because guitar is amid range instrument? Was thinking of making the big sky my main reverb for my daw would that be a good idea thanks ?
Can you tell me the chain setup? Like Amp, DI Box, Daw, Pre-Amp and maybe some brands to look at as well. thanks
Can I use an Interface instead of a DI box?
Without the DI box, the signal will clip right? But what if I had all my effects in the chain in the most minimal level, would it still clip? I'll be using a Presonus AudioBox 96.
Ryan, so would be that signal chain?
Play the track you want through one of the outputs of your interface (that would be line, not mike despite the xlr cable, but balanced) than into the reamp box , the the output of the reamp (that would be unbalanced, but line level) into the pedals.
Afted the pedals, into the input of the DI box then into the preamp (an instrumemt preamp of an interface for instance)
What about guitar pedals into vocals? From the pedals into the DI and then to a mike preamp of the interface?
Is that right?
How do you deal with latency compensation from going out to hardware then back in DAW? Don't have stomp boxs, but I did use a cassette adapter for some saturation in using vintage boombox then going back in the Daw with 1/4 inch adapter. I had to guess where the audio signal should start to compensate for latency. I tried everything with latency compensation and couldn't get them to phase cancel a bit with polarity test. Worked out fine,but it is annoying.
Yeah that is annoying. For me I try to go all the way out with tracks, rather than mix processed sounds with unprocessed. Depending on what I'm doing, I might play a track through without the pedals activated to get a dry track to mix with the processed. You can also play the click track through the chain, and measure what latency your getting.
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I tried latency compensation plug ins with no luck. Can't get everything perfect with latency,but at least it sounds good and thats all that matters. but the engineer voice in my head says thats about .0159 ms off time no matter how many times you move it lol. The hand work takes time so right now i rarely use any hardware or AKA what ever is around to plug into to. If i had a console and real outboard gear i would send everything out to console/out board gear and back in DAW to line them all up without having to do all that hand work. A video on this would be great for many getting into hardware and I couldn't find anything on it for being in a situation where only a few things are going out to hardware then back in, even though it should be basic knowledge.
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Adding some short clicks or beeps at the end of the track (or anywhere else) works pretty well for such syncing.
Daniel Leonov
Never thought of that. I could put a sine wave in one beat before the instrument/vocal starts. I'll try that out. Thanks!
Hey Ryan, is it possible to take that high impedance output from the reamped signal back into your interface if it allows for instrument level inputs? e.g. Focusrite Scarlets
Love your work dude, always pushes my creativity!
Yes, exactly. You could, and that's how you use pedals in a vocal chain for example.
Thanks heaps!
Creative Sound Lab yeah using one of the monitor outputs, to my pedal, then back into a preamp seems to work ok. I know engineers love their DIs and seem to use them constantly "just in case" but I have 24 mono channels of different synths and drum kits, I just let the octopre s handle it, get the gain staging right.
So im extremely new to all of this. So i may be misunderstanding.
But I have an interface that has line outputs (1/4"), can I just run an output to the pedals, then back into the interface? Because the purpose of the blue box you have is to convert xlr to 1/4", right? So if i already have a 1/4" output I can just run 1/4" through everything then back into my interface that has preamps built in.
is it possible to resample saved drum kits back into your daw using only an audio interface and the guitar pedal itself ??
Yep, you can play anything you want out to the guitar pedals.
So how to put an analog delay pedal etc behind a distorted amp sim (so the delay wont get distorted) for a guitar running trough a focusrite 6i6 second gen? No problem putting the delay in front of everything. Problem is getting that delay after amp sim.
Why wouldn’t you just buy an XLR to TRS cable, run your mic through your effects, into your interface, and into your daw? This seems simpler to me.
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My pedals like chorus or delay all work fine even without a di box if I go straight into the interface except the distortion pedal...why? Can you help me?
FINALLY someone who actually explained this in a clear way. Thank you so much!
great video! i've seen your videos a while back and they helped me out a lot but I forgot to subscribe. did now. I have a question. If I have an instrument level input on my interface, do I need the DI box?
Nope, just go in from the pedals into the DI. That's what it's designed to do, unless you want to experiment with different DI circuits. Type 85 and JDI are ones that I use and respect.
Thanks a lot!
Can I use something like a patchbay to keep all my pedals hooked up and easily pick and choose which pedals I want to use at any particular time?
Thanks for this! I'd love to hear some examples if possible. For our initial demo tracks we did bass direct through my pedal board going out of a sansamp but didn't have a reamp box in front and that's why we ended up micing the cabs for the real recording. this could be a whole series because it's right up my alley! btw, I saw the countryman box. What are your thoughts on that when side by side with a sansamp?
Hmm, well the sansamp is a staple around studios. It's a great way to get a distorted bass sound. But it's a different type of deal. I use the countryman for clean-as-possible type recording of guitar and such. I use a passive DI for a little more flavor for the bass. Me did a shootout once against an Avalon and it was just as good or better. The reamp box just converts signals from a DAW into the guitar world, so a reamp box is it's own thing.
If i make a loop in a looper pedal , can i record it simple by conecting the pedal to an interface?
Cool video! Did someone tried using a germanium booster? Is it good for adding some grit to a track?
Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)
Hi Ryan, my interface only has 2 main outputs, I want to be able to use an outboard compressor and remap tracks and use guitar pedals when mixing. I was thinking of getting the big knob so I could send one output of it to my monitors and the other to a compressor or reamo box and be able to switch between both on the big knob and then back into the interface to record.
Do you think this would work?
Would I lose and quality in the audio?
Or do you have any other solutions to allow me to use outboard equipment with only 2 main ohyouts on my interface?
Thanks
Alex
example: daw-interface output-reamp box-pedal-interface HIZ input- daw
is it correct, in this case, bypass the DI?
What is the name of "this box" ? 😜
Have no idea where you are speaking. Maybe I was talking about the Radial reamp box.
Nope, name of the DI Box
I guess it's JDI DI box as in his previous videos
the blue box....you just say this box. its not the di. whats the name of the blue box its sounds like a keymaster.
Radial Engineering Pro RMP Passive Reamping Direct Box ($100)
Exactly what I was willing to do for a while. Got a bunch of guitar pedals that I can't substitute with plugins (although I might find good VST alternatives eventually). And I don't like to record with pedals - especially for double tracked guitars since effects tend to behave a bit differently in stereo.
BUT that also requires an interface with at least three outputs, right? And that's completely different price range from cheap 2i/2o usb interfaces :( Not sure if I want to upgrade solely for this purpose...
Yeah, you have a good point. If your first two outputs are occupied by your left and right monitors then you'd need at least a 3 output. Of coarse you can always disconect your right monitor to feed a pedal, and use the left to monitor. It's a pain but it can be done.
hei, this is a great video, I have some questions though, what if I have a Stereo In/Out Pedal, what kind of reamp do you recommend in that case, and if my interface has build in preamps can I take the stereo outputs of my pedal directly into interface?! thank you
So it's not a good idea to hook up the pedal to the audio interface? Just wanna make sure
just curious, have you had any luck configuring your pedal to interface to DAW yet? i'm still trying to see if there's a way to do this without the preamp, but it looks like i'm gonna have to buy one anyways. sigh..
Jonny U its not worth doing bro, just stick with plugins. its confusing as hell, i went out my way to buy all of this and it doesnt even work.
That's what I'm wondering. I do this as well without reamp box. Why do we need reamp box, if anyone could tell me the reason. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong :-)
How about this.
From Electic Guitar itself to Effect Pedal to computer and record with Guitar Recording Software.
Is that even possible?
Coz I dont have any Interface only of those.
What’s the name of the first box?
I would really like to try out the extc by radial and use that to control my guitar fx post recording . My only concern would be latency induced signals . Is ok to move a wave track back a few milliseconds or use another tool like the ibp by littlelabs to align the signal back into a session to blend with the original signal ? Also how would you use delay and reverb if stereo was desired ? Wouldn’t that mean I would need two extc boxes and two ibp’s ?
I like to record my keyboard with its own effects, effects that I edit myself on the keyboards. But, one time a guy confused me saying that we should record the keyboard turning off all the effects so he can add effects from the plug ins in protools. Please tell me that he was wrong.
Well there is more flexibility when you don't include your effects on top of the dry sound. It's hard to compressed a keyboard sound if there is tons of reverb or delay on it already.
so, does this work??
guitar or any other instrument into guitarlooper into audiointerface into daw ??
Hi do you know how to hook it up and how to use it to add say reverb on a track when mixing
I am curious if the analogue guitar modulation pedals (such as phaser/flanger) are actually better than the plug ins? Guess I have to try it out to find out!
Yeah, I would love to compare them, but I don't own the softward or want to spend money on it. Pretty sure the real thing smokes the emualtions, but the emulations are easy to adjust if you change your mind on the settings ect.
Will the sandamp be good to use as di then I have a bass pedal and di for other pedals to go through or dose it not work like that,?
Does the impedance match using a transparent pedal like wha /whammy /volume directly into a audio Interface?
Wanting to use these pedals with bias amp sim!
Thanks
Does this mean that i can put a guitar amp in the signal chain and going back straight into my interface without a cab or mic?
You need a way to get signals to the amp (Reamp box) and then you need a way to get back in (Mic and preamp). Consider that a amp turns electrical signals into real sound waves in the room...and you need a mic for that. Use just pedals....not amp needed, just use a DI or Hi-z input.
isn't an active reamp box better for this purpose than passive?
can i use daw effect for performing live & can i use padels too with it.?
Excellent
Thanks I'll have to try it sometime.. I have both of those boxes. :)
Sweet!
Hi! great video!
one question, It's freaking me out...if I would want to use this chain :
guitar ---> overdrive pedal ---> daw (amp simulator VST) ---> delay pedal
Delay should be at the end of the chain (REAMP) but... what about the overdrive? no possibility to use on the reamp section, isn't it? I think there is no possibility to insert the AMP SIM between both pedals in the REAMP section.
Thanks in advance!
I would say that go with it and don't fret. Come back in a couple days and see if you still like how it sounds. Give it time and it'll be clear if it was a bad idea or not sonically.
Thank you! I just received the reamp so I'll be doing some test next week. Thanks again!
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