OF COURSE!!! UEFA MADE ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD TO MAKE TÜRKIYE LOSE THE GAME! Giving 2 matches ban to the player who scored 2 goals in the best match of the tournament. Not giving red card to NL player Xavi Simons because his very aggressive tackle and smash Mert Muldur’s right foot. AND NL 2nd GOAL SHOULD NOT BE OFFICIALLY APPROVED BECAUSE THERE IS FAUL!! Gakpo hit both feet and legs of Mert Muldur again!!! WTF! Is that fair game?
Just a correction, if I may!! Not thousands of yrs. young lady, but hundreds of yrs. Dating back to between 220- 550 beginning with the Bozkurt flag ( light blue flag with the symbol of a white wolf). It represents the she wolf that came out of nowhere to save and nurse the little boy that was the only survivor of an attack on his village. She led him to safety and stayed with him through adulthood. We will always love you our beautiful wolf.
@justchillinhere255 There was the Ottoman Empire that was formed by the seljuks and the tatars starting in the 11th century, but there is no such ethnicity as "turk". There were many different ethnicities that were the original inhabitants of the lands, (such as the Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, Kurds, Yezidis and more), that were concurred by the seljuk's and the tatars. There never was an ethnic group called Turks. The inhabitants of the present day Turkey are a mixture of many ethnic groups, as shown by their own genetic testing results. As for the grey wolves, that semi-terrorist group was established in 1960 by someone named Alparslan Turkeș.
A normal historical gesture? Really ? Then why is Swastika considered evil ? It is also historical symbol which dates back thousand years. In Turkey they have banned even languages like Kurdish etc.
@yeehawanarchist saying Kurdish is banned sounds like Turkey puts people in jail just for speaking Kurdish lol . I m sick of this BS. Kurds are free to speak their native language as they wish .
@yeehawanarchist There is only one official language in Türkiye , and in offfial settings such as courts That language must be spoken . I don’t know what is wrong with that . If a Kurdish person does not speak any Turkish , he will be provided with an interpreter. I really do not understand the problem here.
In the USA, this gesture is used by the University of California at Irvine, to represent the mascot (anteater). Zot zot zot…!. Even Barack Obama did the gesture when he gave commencement speech in a graduation.
Had a player done that on the field he would have been banned too - but no one did, so your false equivalence does not stand any ground and the fact remains that only Turkish players displayed nationalist symbols - not the French (quite the opposite some players took a stance against RN), not the Albanians, not the Germans etc.
Turks have always been friendly towards Europe, both culture and religion. With unconcealed joy they took over Byzantium, then visited Vienna twice and left lasting traces of friendship in the Balkans. History itself speaks of other traditional gestures of friendship towards Greeks, Hungarians, Ukrainians and Poles. And as we know, history tends to repeat itself for some strange reason. I think that Türkiye should demand war reparations from Germany based on UEFA's decision.
So do you mean free speech isn't a thing if you don't live there? No idea if it's was actually a bad sign, and uefa has the right to do whatever they want. But unless it's banned the fans are free to use it whenever they want
The "grey wolfs" nationalistic mythology did not emerge until the mid-20th century, so no, the symbol was not used by people for ages. The association of the symbol with modern ultranationalist groups in Turkey is clear and very much the case.
Another case of a poor journalist who spoke to the first bunch of partisan people she met at the stadium and took for granted what they had to say. I also thought this thing of the 'wolf salute' having been exchanged for thousands of years was very suspicious....
I don't understand this whole problem. It's a very well known rule that you are not allowed to make political gestures as a player. Similar things happened with Granit Xhaka for example in the past. the wolf salute nowadays is mostly a political gesture across the entire political spectrum so even if it wasn't far right associated it should be illegal by rules of the uefa...
The problem it was never a political gesture! So called greywolves group never held any known meetings, never publicly announced wolfsign was their sign, they didn't even do any announcement at all! It is even questionable such a group actually ever existed but somehow only God knows how exactly it is seen same as nazisign, care to explain how exactly??
Care to share what punishment Serbian gesture caused? Nothing! But Turkish gesture caused 2 match ban right in middle of a tournament. And nope it is not far right, it is simply a wolf sign, symbol of Turks. Exactly same as bear for Russians or eagle for Americans..
turkey has not been using the gesture for thousandfs years yes. but Turkish history goes back to thousands years . wolf symbolism is everywhere in Turkic Mythology.
@@brrkbtlOn the other hand, this specific form of hand gesture is strongly tied to highly questionable grey wolves group. Even though there are discussions about its history, it was mainly introduced and popularized during 90's by the head of that party. As someone from this country and an admirer of her mythology, I would not defend the gesture. That being said, two match ban is not fair compared to similar cases before. Edit: Nuance change. ~Yet again~ On the other hand.
@@gregntavlis6521 as if any country is without wars, genocides, deaths and betrayals this is everywhere you look. Uk doesnt have a clean history, germany doesnt have a clean history nor does USA
@@gregntavlis6521that symbol just represents being Turkic and it is 2500 years old, whatever you’re fantasizing about Turkey is not related to that symbol. Grey Wolf = Turk
Ok, bring your arguments if you have some logic. Just do not be racist by hating turks. I am sure you are not dare enough to tell it to any turk’s face.
Where we live in the United States, that exact hand gesture would not represent politics, but for someone being a sports fan of NC State University in Raleigh, NC. Go Wolfpack!! 😀
Yeah, context and environment matters. In Germany you get in trouble for displaying a swastika, while in other countries you don't and in India and Japan they have a religious meaning...
Fact: this is not a gesture but rather a political sign with a clear racism mentality. It’s not a pride sign it’s a sign how the Turks think and believe. Whoever does it means he/she either agrees on ultra right radical slogans or sympathize with the Turkish radicals and racists.
@@SKSK-stopthebias what are the facts you are talking about ? you seem a bit confused to me, you also should not use a language if you dont “own” it. by owning i mean knowing it. if native people say X means Y in A language, someone that is not native in so called A language should not come and say X means Z. what i mean is that simple, hope that makes sense for you ?
They are allowed to be ultra nationalist. And we europeans cannot even have pride in our national idenity and history who want to preserve it without being labelled racist... Double Standards
@@Ambrosia- please never teach geography to anyone. U are saying Asia and Europe are one continent. U donot have basics correct... Also Turkish people are ethnically, culturally and linguistically more closer to Turkmenistan than to Greece. And if u doubt this, let all turks do Ancestry 24 tests . See how much greek or turkish they are. If they are greek, they are converts and now calling themselves turkish and if they are turkish then they are from original turkish stock. U can do these tests for cheap online.
Thanks Turkey for making a good thing wich should be only about sport political. Showed everyone that Turkey is further away from a EU membership than ever before. Grow up Turkey.
Do you understand what you say? :) Going far as an expert but lack with logic. What EU has to do with it. EU already ignored taking Turkiye in, so relax.
Turkey must search being member of BRICS and other alliances that Russia and China lead because of western era will end soon and eastern era will be lead world so search of EU membership isn’t good for turkey rather than BRICS
BRAAAAAVA , BRAVA, BRAVA to the Turkish team for not falling into the trap. My boys didn’t bite the bait. Stood on sportsmanship. Stayed focused on playing a gentlemans game despite the political games. BRAVA to their politically savvy Turkish fan base. BRAVA to Erdogan for being proactive and riding in with 500 foot soldiers and Turkish police presence. He showed up in force for his boys, no more funny business, no further provocations. When The Godfather showed up (Ha, ha, just a pun at the false accusations against his player) Turkiye played with valor through bad calls ( umpires) and some of their own slow coach’s responses. Overall every game they played at euro 2024 was the embodiment of the best in class. This game will be remembered in board rooms.
As a Turk, I must correct some inaccuracies in this statement. Every nation has a symbol, and the wolf is indeed the symbol of the Turks. It is not only Türkiye's symbol but also represents Turks worldwide. Our government should take action to include the "wolf" symbol on our football uniforms.
The Europeans are Just afraid of us because we are still proud about our Nation, country, culture and History. The Europeans cant bei proud about such Things anymore because of their politics since 1945. To be honest they want to be proud like us but cannot so in fact they envy us 😁🇹🇷
With the exception of one winning team all others will loose. Participation is key enjoyment. You really should get out more your social skills seem very poor
@magnificentmoberley2333 0 seconds ago You Germans want to Germanise Turks but it never gonna happen, this gesture means also clear answer to you : I’m a Turk and I’m proud ! It’s used by all the Turks even deep in Central Asia since 2000 years , nothing to deal with so-called extremism Ps: Grey wolf movement also use it yes, they are also not extremists, only sheltering communities against PKK and other terror organisations . Clear?
So glad the Netherland won this game!!!!! I really hate the hate 😉 thankfully now we get more of the Oranje Spirit - with no superiority complex - very great accomplished nation and people and finally a great soccer team again!!
For thousands of years? Written Turkish records at best date to 1200 years ago, and there is no mention of this gesture anywhere until very very recently (less than a 100 years ago).
Shouldn't be banned. I didn't mind as a Dutch fan though. Ban Bellingham too please.😉 Be honest, a France - England finale would be the worst finale to watch ever. I want Spain - The Netherlands. Revenge for South Africa!!!!
"Wolf? What wolf? Where wolf? Went without even a woof!" looks like the NETHERLANDS team make a croissant of tharkey and ATE the crescent for an early BREAKFAST😂
Like making a Wolf's head for a 1000 years ?? Like sure it's much easier than a hand shake .... NOT Never saw regular Turks doing it all the times I went there
@@utku_balogluit is. It is related to the fascist para military group of bozkurts and you as a turkish prolly know. As for was used for 1000 years thing. C'mon, give me proof that oguz or gogturks used that gesture.
Good for Danya making the most of her media career. Good to see her again. But Danya - please - control your hair when you outside. It’s distracting. No hate.
So, anyone who wants to participate in any sports event in Germany must support a left-wing party of his/her country?, otherwise he/she is not allowed?, is that democracy?..
Are there only fascist violent groups like the Grey Wolves and the far-left or are you equipped to handle some nuance? Just to know where you sit in the delusion scale would you qualify a party like the German FDP, the French LR or the British Tories as far-left?
@@pomperidus so, you're saying some opinions, views are "correct" and some are "incorrect" ?, and who decides which one is "correct" or "incorrect" ?, you?..
No, they are different. Both genetically and culturally. Kurds are an Iranian ethnic group. Basically they look similar to each other. But the Turks (who genetically originate from Central Asia) mixed with the ethnic group of Balkans (Albanians, Bosnians, etc.), Caucasians (North Caucasians such as Chechens, Balkars, Lezgins, Circassians, Georgians, Laz, Azerbaijanis, etc. .), Crimean Tatars, etc. Some Turks in big cities also mixed with the Kurds. This is why Turks look different, they are genetically mixed. But the Kurds, especially in eastern Turkey, where most Kurds are married to each other and have different culture.
Wolf is a national symbol for us Turks exactly same as bear for Russians or bald eagle for Americans. It has absolutely nothing to do with racism, accusations out of control really. And they banned our the best defender and we ate two easy goals, what a surprise!! Europeans and their double standards, wicked tactics as usual..
@@Julia-Richter Whatever, trying to have a reasonable argument with your kind was a mistake at first place. If you are searching for aracist, look at the mirror! Entire world knows who you are..
They are allowed to be ultra nationalist. And we europeans cannot even have pride in our national idenity and history who want to preserve it without being labelled racist... Double Standards
Its not weather political gestures should or shoudn't be allowed. It is more that there are obvious double standards. Mbappé overtly says vote left and nothing. Demiral makes a gesture Turkic communities use that predate Christianity even and it is a two match ban. Not three mind you because a three match ban could be contested. I am disgusted by UEFA and for the countries it prefers. This cup has no value left for me and so the Holland game I watched a bit cold even though Van Dyke left his shorts down so many times. We were playing against UEFA and Austria and the German Interior Minister in this game. I am not by nature a political person but flagrantly obvious double standards polarize and I find myself thinking things I really rather wouldn't. The beautiful game is supposed to unite. My team gave some great games to this cup but this cup disappointed it and probably many who want to look at things kind of fairly. But the game is not beautiful this way. The body has double standards and has completely lost its credibility in my book. And it has No to racism campaigns! Total bs! Integration is about giving a fair structure to rise up through. When you don't grant that you don't integrate people. Then you create the very thing you don't want.
Every UEFA member participates in the qualifiers and if they qualify, they participate in the final tournament. Once you are done posting nonsense, google UEFA members and you'll see some of them are Asian countries. Kazakhstan is a good example.
It is simple; make celebration rules clear; that is, what is allowed and what is not and be specific with specific penalties and then enforce the rules fairly. The NFL has “taunting” penalties enforced by the referees that work pretty well. I never heard of the symbol that was made and probably most people have not heard of it either. I think the player should not have been suspended unless it was a crystal clear violation of the rules. I don’t know what the rules are, thus no opinion on the fairness of the suspension. But clearly the German government did not suspend the player, so why the diplomatic row?
It's not forbidden to show this sign in Germany. I guess this will change now and Germany will follow the example of Austria, where it is against the law.
Turkey have been so fierce, great and entertaining to watch who are not afraid to attack the opponents. They were leading the game until towards the end. Unfortunately, they were unlucky as ball just couldn't hit the net by spectacular saves.
Poor nationalists are always a victim and the rest of the world is always conspiring against their wonderful country who never did anything wrong. Victimisation is a full time job.
Please listen to her energy about the game and her lack of empathy when it came to speaking about a ULTRA NATIONALIST FASCIST hand gesture. “…idk why….for some reason.” “OH THE GAME?????? let me tell you about the GAME!!😈” 😂 yall are seriously something. Maybe spend more time focusing on sport instead of racism, you might have won
@@ekinelifekin😂😂😂 not really, turkey 🦃 is ottoman, it’s political system and views are more of the theocracies of the Middle East, culturally, ethnically turkey doesn’t align nor belong in Europe. Geographically tiny land is in Europe everything else ASIA. SO NO 🦃 IS NOT EUROPEAN .
Oh no. How terrible. They don't get to watch their ball game, just because they made some ultra-nationalist neo-fascist gestures. What could they possibly have done to prevent this? Oh yeah. Not make the gestures, and just enjoy watching the ball-kicking game.
It is ironic how they only realize the injustice and unfairness of their judgement when they are confronted with more information. What is even more amusing is how they suddenly change their argument once they realize how foolish their initial statements sounded.
@@wearebecomedeathstar2658 Rather than simply requesting nouns, you should utilize and come up with some logical reasoning to uncover the root causes of injustice
like every nation we have national symbols wolfie is old and well know first turkish paper currency has wolfie on the back old flags and coat of arms as well , germans has bear americans has eagle so whats the problem ?
My respect to 🇹🇷 Turkish people 📈
If Nationalism is so wrong then why have National teams
@@everypitchcounts4875 Good one 😁
It was a fascist gesture.
@@enigmaticzigfried7557 maybe just a liiiittle bit 😂
@@enigmaticzigfried7557 no
Erdogan didn't go to Germany, he went to Little Turkey.
The Turkish Dictator just witness a loosing match LOL
I'll never understand why so many people spell losing as "loosing".
Ike right they are loosing so loosingly
@@jgp7414 Oh sorry grammar police, am I going to YAWIL?
@@D_isco_D_ancer Pretty sure you're going back to fourth grade.
@@jgp7414 Maybe because of other words with double "o", which are pronounced similar. For example "goose", "moose" or "booze".
Erdogan attended and jinxed the game.
هههههه
@@mastadonUEFA should have a team in the cup 😂
Aren't we happy to the max that Turkey lost to the Netherlands?
OF COURSE!!! UEFA MADE ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD TO MAKE TÜRKIYE LOSE THE GAME! Giving 2 matches ban to the player who scored 2 goals in the best match of the tournament. Not giving red card to NL player Xavi Simons because his very aggressive tackle and smash Mert Muldur’s right foot. AND NL 2nd GOAL SHOULD NOT BE OFFICIALLY APPROVED BECAUSE THERE IS FAUL!! Gakpo hit both feet and legs of Mert Muldur again!!! WTF! Is that fair game?
@@ermanerbakkeep crying. We neef the salt.
@@tajmajal4197 We meaning who exactly?... enter your racist comment
Just a correction, if I may!! Not thousands of yrs. young lady, but hundreds of yrs. Dating back to between 220- 550 beginning with the Bozkurt flag ( light blue flag with the symbol of a white wolf). It represents the she wolf that came out of nowhere to save and nurse the little boy that was the only survivor of an attack on his village. She led him to safety and stayed with him through adulthood. We will always love you our beautiful wolf.
"Using the sign for thousands of years" wow!
Turkey was founded as a country in 1923. The ignorance is palpable.
@@laesquire turks also existed before foundation of republic you know?
@justchillinhere255 There was the Ottoman Empire that was formed by the seljuks and the tatars starting in the 11th century, but there is no such ethnicity as "turk". There were many different ethnicities that were the original inhabitants of the lands, (such as the Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, Kurds, Yezidis and more), that were concurred by the seljuk's and the tatars. There never was an ethnic group called Turks. The inhabitants of the present day Turkey are a mixture of many ethnic groups, as shown by their own genetic testing results.
As for the grey wolves, that semi-terrorist group was established in 1960 by someone named Alparslan Turkeș.
What’s your IQ? 50?
Turks came to byzantine territory in around 15th century n since then they live there
@@laesquire Turks were present for thousands of years before 1923. Yet its funny you still accuse people with ignorance :D
That's a wolf? Isn't it a bunny?
No
It's a 'turkey'
Antelope, maybe slug.
I guess wolf is of very positive image in Turkiye, I remember watching on netflix a Turkish counter terrorism drama series call WOLF
The bunny hand gestures is usually a bent version of the peace sign.
A normal historical gesture? Really ? Then why is Swastika considered evil ? It is also historical symbol which dates back thousand years.
In Turkey they have banned even languages like Kurdish etc.
kurdish is not banned in Turkey . It was banned but not anymore. maybe update yourself.
@yeehawanarchist saying Kurdish is banned sounds like Turkey puts people in jail just for speaking Kurdish lol . I m sick of this BS. Kurds are free to speak their native language as they wish .
@yeehawanarchist There is only one official language in Türkiye , and in offfial settings such as courts That language must be spoken . I don’t know what is wrong with that .
If a Kurdish person does not speak any Turkish , he will be provided with an interpreter. I really do not understand the problem here.
@@brrkbtl turkey = oppressor
@yeehawanarchisthayır secmeli ders olarak görüyorlar.yalan atma.bıktık bu saçma mağduriyetten.Türkiye bir ulus devlet.birden fazla dil konuşmayacak
The dutch kicked them out so no more.
So far right movements are only for Europe 😂
Türkiye is eurasian country, like it or not it's the truth
@DutchFR1908-rj2jz Turks are european, besides it's Türkiye and Kurds are treated like other's Turks
@@Ambrosia-oh man, you really seem angry that turkey lost so you keep posting here. It's not going to change the result though.
@DutchFR1908-rj2jz So what is has to do it with kurds?
@@Ambrosia- i know kurdish people. even in germany they are faced with racism by turks.
wtf is wrong with you relativising these things.
In the USA, this gesture is used by the University of California at Irvine, to represent the mascot (anteater). Zot zot zot…!. Even Barack Obama did the gesture when he gave commencement speech in a graduation.
Wolf is animal of turks and first turks use as a flag ıf you search ^gokturks flag^ in net you understand what this gesture come from 552 bc
Italians have been doing the Roman salute for along time also.
Well yes. And they get banned for it at sporting events all the time.
Well yes. And they get banned for it at sporting events all the time.
Had a player done that on the field he would have been banned too - but no one did, so your false equivalence does not stand any ground and the fact remains that only Turkish players displayed nationalist symbols - not the French (quite the opposite some players took a stance against RN), not the Albanians, not the Germans etc.
Too many Turks
And? What U wanna do about it?
@C.J.M..yeah all those kebab shops and barbers are definitely doing the heavy work in Germany's economy 😂
@@FreeMan-j3iyou will see soon, enjoy the time left 😙
yes, lets team up and play soccer then
@@HellonearthlABBunfortunately you are already outnumbered lol
Doesn't grey wolves have the ability to lick their own junk? 🐺
They also have the ability to bite your mums toosh
i heard your dad do the same. Is it true?
obviously it is not only you who does it 😃
That's your mom
@@PavlovsDog-kl8mo very mannerless comment. Don't use TH-cam for your fantasies.
They've gone home now, so nothing more to worry about ☺️
Uh, no they are everywhere in Europe, lol!
@@leonardbleeker1310 Mein freund ist ausländer no more I see
Turks have always been friendly towards Europe, both culture and religion. With unconcealed joy they took over Byzantium, then visited Vienna twice and left lasting traces of friendship in the Balkans. History itself speaks of other traditional gestures of friendship towards Greeks, Hungarians, Ukrainians and Poles. And as we know, history tends to repeat itself for some strange reason. I think that Türkiye should demand war reparations from Germany based on UEFA's decision.
If EUFA didn't make a fuss of this no one would notice and care.
Anybody with a bit of knowledge of history would.
Absoluty did people care in Germany especially Kurds, Armenians and Syrians across the continent
Finally got very smart and fair comment. :) Thanks! Let’s see how Europe going to deal with racist right powers :)
Racist Germans, anyone surprised ? TURKIYE 🐺
Welp... I mean don't do anything disrespect while you're abroad, no matter what you do for living..
So do you mean free speech isn't a thing if you don't live there? No idea if it's was actually a bad sign, and uefa has the right to do whatever they want. But unless it's banned the fans are free to use it whenever they want
@@marek9784 It is banned, so yes, he did break the law there.
yes, like don't use lgbt patches in Qatar, like German team did, lol
@@disdoncableit is not banned, and you are all just a bunch of nervous haters
@@marek9784Grey wolves are well known racists. And a political sign shouldnt be part of an sport event. Thats why UEFA banned Demiral
I love Danya Barsalona! Fresh face of journalism
What a creep
@@nxo91 creep?
@@nishchaljayaprakash659 You are not allowed to love, only hate like @nxo91
@@gerg5555 alright. Time to hate the world.
Currycel
Well, Alan shearer’s celebration may have caused all sorts of problems in this euro’s 😂
I'm glad Netherlands won.
The lions kicked the wolves back to their country
The atheists kicked the holy ones out
Lions 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️😂
@@JhoniAliboy you gay wokie?
@@DutchPeanut No racism here...
Africa vs Turkey 😂
The "grey wolfs" nationalistic mythology did not emerge until the mid-20th century, so no, the symbol was not used by people for ages.
The association of the symbol with modern ultranationalist groups in Turkey is clear and very much the case.
Another case of a poor journalist who spoke to the first bunch of partisan people she met at the stadium and took for granted what they had to say.
I also thought this thing of the 'wolf salute' having been exchanged for thousands of years was very suspicious....
Objective Gayreek about Turks:))İt s like joke
Learn your own history first filip 😂
I don't understand this whole problem. It's a very well known rule that you are not allowed to make political gestures as a player. Similar things happened with Granit Xhaka for example in the past. the wolf salute nowadays is mostly a political gesture across the entire political spectrum so even if it wasn't far right associated it should be illegal by rules of the uefa...
The problem it was never a political gesture! So called greywolves group never held any known meetings, never publicly announced wolfsign was their sign, they didn't even do any announcement at all! It is even questionable such a group actually ever existed but somehow only God knows how exactly it is seen same as nazisign, care to explain how exactly??
Cepni selami veren Sırp futbolcu sadece para cezası almışken turk futbolcu 2 maç men cezası aldı.arada bariz bir haksızlık var
Care to share what punishment Serbian gesture caused? Nothing! But Turkish gesture caused 2 match ban right in middle of a tournament. And nope it is not far right, it is simply a wolf sign, symbol of Turks. Exactly same as bear for Russians or eagle for Americans..
Xhaka was not suspended. That’s the difference. Now time to rethink your approach.
@@ggoddkkiller1342 that was a world cup, different organization.
See now what Greece is dealing with?
What can U inform us
What is that has with Greece ???
Golden Dawn? Turko İtalian?
Turkey has been using this gesture for thousands of years 😂, turkey has only few hundred years of brutal history.
turkey has not been using the gesture for thousandfs years yes. but Turkish history goes back to thousands years . wolf symbolism is everywhere in Turkic Mythology.
Yes history full of genocides, invasive attitude and monstrosities,this is what this symbol represents@@brrkbtl
@@brrkbtlOn the other hand, this specific form of hand gesture is strongly tied to highly questionable grey wolves group. Even though there are discussions about its history, it was mainly introduced and popularized during 90's by the head of that party. As someone from this country and an admirer of her mythology, I would not defend the gesture. That being said, two match ban is not fair compared to similar cases before.
Edit: Nuance change. ~Yet again~ On the other hand.
@@gregntavlis6521 as if any country is without wars, genocides, deaths and betrayals this is everywhere you look. Uk doesnt have a clean history, germany doesnt have a clean history nor does USA
@@gregntavlis6521that symbol just represents being Turkic and it is 2500 years old, whatever you’re fantasizing about Turkey is not related to that symbol. Grey Wolf = Turk
He's guilty, a two match ban is an insult. Ban for life would be suitable.
Ok, bring your arguments if you have some logic. Just do not be racist by hating turks. I am sure you are not dare enough to tell it to any turk’s face.
@@sal5966calm down keyboard warrior.
@@Mark-wv8ue Would have been better that way. A lifetime ban could be contested, but not a two match ban
@@dylanvogler2165 Nobody talked to you, keyboard warrior is your whole route. You calm down and answer when you are asked for it.
Free the Kurdish people
They are free.
@@benbarak6072 You care so much about the Kurdish it is touching...
Why doesnt Germany take Kurds in their country
I thought for sure he was doing the one in the stink 2 in the pink. Guess I need my reading glasses
Where we live in the United States, that exact hand gesture would not represent politics, but for someone being a sports fan of NC State University in Raleigh, NC. Go Wolfpack!! 😀
The US Supreme Court ruled long ago that a symbol is only a symbol and the onlooker gives the meaning to a symbol.
@@samuelreddy7816 What US court things is not relevant for Europe or Uefa, only for USA.
Yeah, context and environment matters. In Germany you get in trouble for displaying a swastika, while in other countries you don't and in India and Japan they have a religious meaning...
@samuelreddy7816 you got to remember in the usa we have free speech, it's an alien concept to Europeans
@@kingericson490 Lol. Free Speech originated in Europe.
Turkey’s president got to see his country lose. 😂 gobble gobble 🦃
one of the most infamous nations
Fact: this is not a gesture but rather a political sign with a clear racism mentality. It’s not a pride sign it’s a sign how the Turks think and believe. Whoever does it means he/she either agrees on ultra right radical slogans or sympathize with the Turkish radicals and racists.
You can't define the meaning of symbols in a culture if you don't own the culture.
@@ottorocket03 we saw your culture of chaos and mayhem in streets
@@ottorocket03 “own a culture”? As per you analogy, If you don’t own a language you shall not use it😊. Facts overrules empty statements. Thank you
@@SKSK-stopthebias what are the facts you are talking about ? you seem a bit confused to me, you also should not use a language if you dont “own” it. by owning i mean knowing it. if native people say X means Y in A language, someone that is not native in so called A language should not come and say X means Z. what i mean is that simple, hope that makes sense for you ?
@@bdal3480 yes, we also saw your culture of racism and xenophobia
there should be only European countries at Euro games only, Turkey and Israel are not European
Turkey clearly is Israel clearly is not. If it is a question of geography
@@tomkelly8827Russia should be included in the tournament
Cyprus is in geographical Asia and in the EU
@@tomkelly8827 why ? 🦃 is European ? maybe because they occupy Greek land?
So grey wolf cost em soccer victory
Gesture looks like the Texas Longhorns gesture.
Wow, I'm shocked, at a soccer match.
They are allowed to be ultra nationalist. And we europeans cannot even have pride in our national idenity and history who want to preserve it without being labelled racist... Double Standards
We are not allowed ? By whom ? Go make hand gestures, and wave flags, that’s about as useful for the country your type is capable of being.
@@sopadurso Nah he wanted to be pride of Germany's history 😁
The Turkish ultra nationalist player is being punished, nobody should be allowed to spread hatred.
Turkish are european also, europe and asia are one continent,
@@Ambrosia- please never teach geography to anyone. U are saying Asia and Europe are one continent. U donot have basics correct... Also Turkish people are ethnically, culturally and linguistically more closer to Turkmenistan than to Greece. And if u doubt this, let all turks do Ancestry 24 tests . See how much greek or turkish they are. If they are greek, they are converts and now calling themselves turkish and if they are turkish then they are from original turkish stock. U can do these tests for cheap online.
Thanks Turkey for making a good thing wich should be only about sport political. Showed everyone that Turkey is further away from a EU membership than ever before. Grow up Turkey.
Far right not thing all in europe
Do you understand what you say? :) Going far as an expert but lack with logic. What EU has to do with it. EU already ignored taking Turkiye in, so relax.
Turkey must search being member of BRICS and other alliances that Russia and China lead because of western era will end soon and eastern era will be lead world so search of EU membership isn’t good for turkey rather than BRICS
Turks arent European they are Anatolian know the difference
"By what right does the wolf judge the lion?!"
Much love from the Netherlands! ♥♥♥
U can see lion,tiger even elephant at the circus but u can never see greywolf there
Maybe it’s a🦊
The Dutch sure knows how to carve a Turkey 🦃
Or even a wolf, for that matter 🤘🐺🤘😆
Correct, but we did see Turkey getting smoked by the Dutch! @@MarmaraKazm-ld7im
@@sevenprovinces Played worse, world says so. No braging rights, sorry 😂
BRAAAAAVA , BRAVA, BRAVA to the Turkish team for not falling into the trap. My boys didn’t bite the bait. Stood on sportsmanship. Stayed focused on playing a gentlemans game despite the political games.
BRAVA to their politically savvy Turkish fan base.
BRAVA to Erdogan for being proactive and riding in with 500 foot soldiers and Turkish police presence. He showed up in force for his boys, no more funny business, no further provocations.
When The Godfather showed up (Ha, ha, just a pun at the false accusations against his player)
Turkiye played with valor through bad calls ( umpires) and some of their own slow coach’s responses.
Overall every game they played at euro 2024 was the embodiment of the best in class. This game will be remembered in board rooms.
As a Turk, I must correct some inaccuracies in this statement.
Every nation has a symbol, and the wolf is indeed the symbol of the Turks. It is not only Türkiye's symbol but also represents Turks worldwide.
Our government should take action to include the "wolf" symbol on our football uniforms.
The Europeans are Just afraid of us because we are still proud about our Nation, country, culture and History. The Europeans cant bei proud about such Things anymore because of their politics since 1945. To be honest they want to be proud like us but cannot so in fact they envy us 😁🇹🇷
And Turkey allows anti-democrats to misuse a national symbol?
@@FreeMan-j3iI am very proud to be a European.
germany is like "if we can't do it nobody can!!!" 😂
Germany is soo messed up. We just let Erdogan do what he wants
@@io2068 Like watch a match 😂
@@BC-yb1mq they guy enters germany without even Informing the German authorities. Just because there are 2m turks in Germany
Im just laughing at all those Turkish "fans" that just watched a loosing match LOL
With the exception of one winning team all others will loose. Participation is key enjoyment. You really should get out more your social skills seem very poor
@@altan4726 Exactly and that single team WONT be Turkey.
@@D_isco_D_ancerShalom
Turkish did really well in this game considering how inexperienced they were against Netherlands. They nearly scored goals but unlucky.
Where is your country? 😂 We are very proud with our team. They played a good Championship and fought until the End 🇹🇷❤️💪🏻😎
Honestly what is wrong with this gesture..?! Do not see any insult..! People are easily insulted this days!
The AfD is gaining votes in Germany every year and has already reached 16%. and we discuss Turkey. What do you want to distract him from?
Germany: Helping ultra - nationalist, far right Is/rael govt.
Also Germany : Oh, no , no )so called) far right sign.
I thought he was a Parliament-Funkadelic fan.
Truly Unfair.
That hand gesture is also the heavy metal 🤘 salute
its a bit different, just a little
@magnificentmoberley2333
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You Germans want to Germanise Turks but it never gonna happen, this gesture means also clear answer to you : I’m a Turk and I’m proud ! It’s used by all the Turks even deep in Central Asia since 2000 years , nothing to deal with so-called extremism
Ps: Grey wolf movement also use it yes, they are also not extremists, only sheltering communities against PKK and other terror organisations .
Clear?
Only 2000 years back? Clearly more....
The thing of the grey wolves "defending people" is a joke, right?
So glad the Netherland won this game!!!!! I really hate the hate 😉 thankfully now we get more of the Oranje Spirit - with no superiority complex - very great accomplished nation and people and finally a great soccer team again!!
What would Turkish people do if Germans did something similar in their country? Thats the answer...
For thousands of years? Written Turkish records at best date to 1200 years ago, and there is no mention of this gesture anywhere until very very recently (less than a 100 years ago).
"Too sweet," AJ Styles and the OC.
That's a turkish fascist sign/salute, it should be banned, and if used, the turkish football association should be banned from sports.
Look at the comments here to see who is racist.
Shouldn't be banned. I didn't mind as a Dutch fan though. Ban Bellingham too please.😉 Be honest, a France - England finale would be the worst finale to watch ever. I want Spain - The Netherlands. Revenge for South Africa!!!!
I hope we will get this !!!!!
Who told bro to throw gang sign in Germany 💀
@@Dripxxl-i4k Mbappé all but started a political party 😂
Whenever erdoğan loses votes. A European politician catches up to assist him thn his votes are rising again 😂
"Wolf? What wolf? Where wolf? Went without even a woof!"
looks like the NETHERLANDS team make a croissant of tharkey and ATE the crescent for an early BREAKFAST😂
Like making a Wolf's head for a 1000 years ?? Like sure it's much easier than a hand shake .... NOT
Never saw regular Turks doing it all the times I went there
Turkey is barely a 100 years old. Perhaps if you knew more about how it was founded, you wouldn't be spouting this garbage.
@@Holy_ExemplarHe isn't spouting garbage, he just repeated what was said in the video.
@@Holy_Exemplar Hey Mr 'Expert' you are denying I ever went to Turkey because Im not 150 years old - LoL wind it back in and take your meds
@@rodmarker2071in our mythology, grey wolf is the symbol of Turks and its more than 2500 years old, its not some kind of racist thing.
@@utku_balogluit is. It is related to the fascist para military group of bozkurts and you as a turkish prolly know. As for was used for 1000 years thing. C'mon, give me proof that oguz or gogturks used that gesture.
Good for Danya making the most of her media career. Good to see her again.
But Danya - please - control your hair when you outside. It’s distracting. No hate.
So, anyone who wants to participate in any sports event in Germany must support a left-wing party of his/her country?, otherwise he/she is not allowed?, is that democracy?..
Are there only fascist violent groups like the Grey Wolves and the far-left or are you equipped to handle some nuance? Just to know where you sit in the delusion scale would you qualify a party like the German FDP, the French LR or the British Tories as far-left?
@@pomperidus so, you're saying some opinions, views are "correct" and some are "incorrect" ?, and who decides which one is "correct" or "incorrect" ?, you?..
@@pragueexpat5106Hitler called, he wants his arguments back
No; in the interview, that was the ‘rock-on’-gesture … not the ‘wolf’-gesture ….
i don't see any difference between turks and kurds, to me they are the same.
As someone that has filmed in Kurdistan I must respectfully disagree with you
The only similarity is the violence they both displayed against ethnic Armenians at the beginning of the 20th century
No, they are different. Both genetically and culturally. Kurds are an Iranian ethnic group. Basically they look similar to each other. But the Turks (who genetically originate from Central Asia) mixed with the ethnic group of Balkans (Albanians, Bosnians, etc.), Caucasians (North Caucasians such as Chechens, Balkars, Lezgins, Circassians, Georgians, Laz, Azerbaijanis, etc. .), Crimean Tatars, etc. Some Turks in big cities also mixed with the Kurds. This is why Turks look different, they are genetically mixed. But the Kurds, especially in eastern Turkey, where most Kurds are married to each other and have different culture.
@@serendipity1999 yea, i know but to me is the same shieat.
@@serendipity1999
Turks and Kurds Both Has J2 Hapologroup
Thats babymetal 🤘🏼
Wolf is a national symbol for us Turks exactly same as bear for Russians or bald eagle for Americans. It has absolutely nothing to do with racism, accusations out of control really. And they banned our the best defender and we ate two easy goals, what a surprise!! Europeans and their double standards, wicked tactics as usual..
Yes, Turkey, like always, is the victim.
@@Julia-Richter Whatever, trying to have a reasonable argument with your kind was a mistake at first place. If you are searching for aracist, look at the mirror! Entire world knows who you are..
@@Julia-Richter Whatever, entire world knows who you really are and your history! So they will see this as it is truly not your fabricated version..
as if we haven't enough issues already with german far right groups -_-
Summary:Double Standard
double nationality is not?
They are allowed to be ultra nationalist. And we europeans cannot even have pride in our national idenity and history who want to preserve it without being labelled racist... Double Standards
@@Tearsofsoil Are you want to be pride of the painter 💀
Which other player has displayed a fascist symbol on the field?
@@pomperidus Who didn't?
Kılıçdaroğlu also used this hand sign
I don't understand, why does doing a hand gesture apparently used by the far right "bad"?
Saw the thumbnail and thought this was about Babymetal. 🤘
Its not weather political gestures should or shoudn't be allowed. It is more that there are obvious double standards. Mbappé overtly says vote left and nothing. Demiral makes a gesture Turkic communities use that predate Christianity even and it is a two match ban. Not three mind you because a three match ban could be contested. I am disgusted by UEFA and for the countries it prefers. This cup has no value left for me and so the Holland game I watched a bit cold even though Van Dyke left his shorts down so many times. We were playing against UEFA and Austria and the German Interior Minister in this game. I am not by nature a political person but flagrantly obvious double standards polarize and I find myself thinking things I really rather wouldn't. The beautiful game is supposed to unite. My team gave some great games to this cup but this cup disappointed it and probably many who want to look at things kind of fairly. But the game is not beautiful this way. The body has double standards and has completely lost its credibility in my book. And it has No to racism campaigns! Total bs! Integration is about giving a fair structure to rise up through. When you don't grant that you don't integrate people. Then you create the very thing you don't want.
OK, I hope they are cool with Western Europe's far right not wanting them in their countries anymore then.
What’s Turkey doing on a European tournament in the first place? Their capital is in Asia. They brought nice football anyway.
I am from Cyprus we are in Asia and in the EU.
Every UEFA member participates in the qualifiers and if they qualify, they participate in the final tournament. Once you are done posting nonsense, google UEFA members and you'll see some of them are Asian countries. Kazakhstan is a good example.
We are the only eastern nation who defeated europeans in their own continent and permanently annexed a good part of it, cry more..
Certainly not the only one. Take the Hungarians as one example.
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Uhu... so what about Russia?
It is simple; make celebration rules clear; that is, what is allowed and what is not and be specific with specific penalties and then enforce the rules fairly. The NFL has “taunting” penalties enforced by the referees that work pretty well. I never heard of the symbol that was made and probably most people have not heard of it either. I think the player should not have been suspended unless it was a crystal clear violation of the rules. I don’t know what the rules are, thus no opinion on the fairness of the suspension. But clearly the German government did not suspend the player, so why the diplomatic row?
It's not forbidden to show this sign in Germany. I guess this will change now and Germany will follow the example of Austria, where it is against the law.
Danielle Barcelona is a non-football issue I'm more interested in...
Turkey have been so fierce, great and entertaining to watch who are not afraid to attack the opponents. They were leading the game until towards the end. Unfortunately, they were unlucky as ball just couldn't hit the net by spectacular saves.
Interior minister cannot make up rules that are not supported by laws, this is called “usurpation.” That is how ambassadors were involved.
Poor nationalists are always a victim and the rest of the world is always conspiring against their wonderful country who never did anything wrong. Victimisation is a full time job.
Sounds very contrived. 🤔
This turkey country always a problem
Please listen to her energy about the game and her lack of empathy when it came to speaking about a ULTRA NATIONALIST FASCIST hand gesture. “…idk why….for some reason.”
“OH THE GAME?????? let me tell you about the GAME!!😈”
😂 yall are seriously something. Maybe spend more time focusing on sport instead of racism, you might have won
Turkey is not in Europe anyway!
hahahahshwhs are you being for real?
@@ekinelifekin😂😂😂 not really, turkey 🦃 is ottoman, it’s political system and views are more of the theocracies of the Middle East, culturally, ethnically turkey doesn’t align nor belong in Europe. Geographically tiny land is in Europe everything else ASIA. SO NO 🦃 IS NOT EUROPEAN .
@@Namaste001 what do you mean do you think its a cool thing to be an europian? lmao
We are Turks. The wolf is our ancestral animal.
Bulls*** that's bullet club sign
Everybody knows football fans aren't the brightest or the more educated 😂😂
@@RomanesEuntDomus. YOU are so right!
Oh no. How terrible. They don't get to watch their ball game, just because they made some ultra-nationalist neo-fascist gestures.
What could they possibly have done to prevent this?
Oh yeah. Not make the gestures, and just enjoy watching the ball-kicking game.
That’s the symbol of the FOX GOD.
🦊🦊
It is ironic how they only realize the injustice and unfairness of their judgement when they are confronted with more information. What is even more amusing is how they suddenly change their argument once they realize how foolish their initial statements sounded.
What are you talking about? Who changed what statement? Give us some nouns.
@@wearebecomedeathstar2658 Rather than simply requesting nouns, you should utilize and come up with some logical reasoning to uncover the root causes of injustice
This gesture was little known until UEFA made it famous world wide. Obviously intention here is not stop racism.
It is pretty well known in Germany, the host of the championship.
Nationalist Underdogs are unpredictable 🐺
like every nation we have national symbols wolfie is old and well know first turkish paper currency has wolfie on the back old flags and coat of arms as well , germans has bear americans has eagle so whats the problem ?
I like her hair.
Don’t overreact. The famous L’amour toujours song was heard at almost every game while that was also supposedly forbidden - which is btw ridiculous.
Very interesting… the far right in the US has hijacked the US flag in a similar way that this symbol has reportedly been hijacked.