Hey, if you're doing this "why is everyone buying x" series, what about a series "why is nobody buying x" where you look for products (or that the team already knows) that are very underrated, although requiring more work than this series and would most likely be a niche I think it could be interesting.
Having frequency response graphs for budget audio tech is great, I hope you can do more of it in the future. Its one of the first things I check when trying to gauge how good things sound but the few sites that report them generally only cover audiophile level gear
One would hope they where actually using a flat frequency response as the target, unless they are aiming to reproduce the frequency response of an other headset brand. In the professional audio world, when we buy monitors we go for the ones that have the flatter frequency response curve.
@@capitaoahab7069 yh but I think he means flat so that it could be adjusted manually better. Like recording video in a flat picture profile so it can be graded better.
@@emanuelchayer1756 speakers are measured on measurement microphones while headphones are measured on ear simulators. You can see there's a boost on midrange on headphone frequency target because that's what we hear. Also that frequency response has created based on flat sounding speakers. If you measure flat sounding speakers on ears simulators you'll get similar result except on bass region. Bass is higher on headphone target because headphones need more bass to create speakers' bass effect that we feel on our body rather than only on ear region.
My biggest concern with a lot of these Amazon best-selling products is that their 10s of thousands of ratings are almost always extremely misleading. Many/most of these smaller cheap Chinese brands is that they somehow re-use/recycle listings for products while keeping the total ratings of the older products. I can't even tell you how many times I've looked at a product that was essentially brand new and had thousands or tens of thousands of positive reviews, where many of the reviews were quite clearly for a different product altogether. I really with Amazon would do something about this because it is the epitome of ratings-manipulation and dishonest business practice. Buyer beware...
What they do is they flood their brand with some good but cheap products and some bad and also cheap products and somehow the good product they made somehow ends up with reviews for all their products as a whole on all their items idk why it doesn’t make any sense.
@@Kjtuiono No, what they actually do is abuse Amazon's feature that lets you edit your product's details (which is absolutely fair and important to have). They put out a cheap and decent product, generally in a high volume, 'easy' market (like kids toys), let it gather a bunch of reviews, then completely overhaul the page to the tech or electronic product they want to scam off on. It's pretty noticeable if you save one of their 'original' items, wait long enough, and you'll see that one day it magically transforms into something entirely different. Amazon isn't mixing product reviews at all, it's the seller changing the product page itself.
@@Kjtuiono It's close, but it's not exactly what you said. The reviews aren't being placed on "all their items", the reviews are staying with the 'product' that was reviewed itself and then the 'product' is changed. There's a difference between the two scenarios.
Loving that LTT are reviewing cheaper products and not automatically ruling them out because they're cheap or an unknown brand. Please keep up this series as this could really help out kids buy their first gaming gear or those of us who have a tighter budget. Nice job guys, please keep up the good work 😁
This kind of review like that is great specially with the "but you can get something significantly better with X amount extra", really useful for anyone wanting to buy this stuff. I hope you guys could get that covering more stuff (even if it is just something written on the website or something like that).
A great example of better than this at the same amount is Koss's KSC75. For the price of $20, you can get some of the most brilliant sounding headphones out there.
I’d love LTT to do a behind the scenes breakdown of just how well these ‘most popular on Amazon’ videos do compared to others. Especially as they seem to have a cheaper cost than others. Nice one folks!
I love how charitable Linus becomes to the products in this series despite mostly being used to high end gear. Understanding the value/price ratio has to be one of Linus 's finest qualities
I had a different badged version of these prior to being gifted some $500 headphones from work. The cable casing frayed over time, and they weren't particularly comfortable to wear for long periods, but they got the job done. For $20, they're an amazing deal if you just need something that works and works adequately. They weren't so bad that I felt like I needed to throw them away when I got the upgrade. I still used them on my gaming PC for a year or so.
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e B&O Beoplay H9 about 3 years ago for my 10 year work anniversary. Looks like they are a bit cheaper now, though with the newer model coming out
I love this format. However, if you recommend alternatives, I would love to see the data on audio response and also test of that mic the same. Not long, but just quick flashes that show what makes it "better." Great information, as always.
@Joseph Frietze right just a here is the one we are talking about here is the one that's a little better if you have the money here is the one that is a little worse if you don't.
@Your Wight Knight I doubt they have the budget for that, besides this is a clear formula they have been doing as a series now. Find Amazon's number one best-selling "insert tech item here" cover it. If this is a 12-minute endorsement on anything, it would be using Amazon's tool to drive the decision-making in your purchases however, time and time again this series proves that these products are "ok" at best.
I love LTT, but Labs actually has the potential to change the world a bit. Partially due to the focus on quality measurements, but more so because it's privately funded. Other outlets have to balance advertiser revenue etc. So much respect for how you and Yvonne built the business.
If you look at subjective audiophile channels they're sponsored by brands that are selling very overpriced items. And the thing is they have very bad measurements. For example AudioScienceReview has measured audio upscalers, power cleaners and cables that are selling for thousands of dollars and they did not made any difference.
sorry, bit of a noob.. who's/what's Labs?? I watch mostly GN nowadays as they're more objective, and totally stopped with jayz2cents, he got slowly annoying to watch :p
@@crh18 LTT Labs. They bought headphone, keyboard, mouse and more product test equipments and they even hired an audio engineer to test headphones. It's still in work but they're sometimes testing stuff and showing results on normal videos. AFAIK they're also going to make a website like RTings. Additionally that test equipments are very expensive. For example if I'm not wrong that headphone analyser is $50.000. They also have much expensive power supply tester but Seasonic sponsored them on that.
Lets be honest, it won't 'change the world'. Let's not pretend that measurements and analysis doesn't already exist for products. It will just be a convenient place to find it.
@@crh18 No worries. Labs is a new business started by LTT purely focussed on doing objective measurements. For example measuring colour accuracy for monitors for, tracking accuracy for mice, power supply efficiency etc. They already do many of the tests for the LTT videos, but they're building a website too where you can compare products etc. Basically they want to be able to call out marketing bullshit and provide people with a central hub from which they can get accurate product information. That somewhat exists, but the private funding and the reach of LTT puts it on another level.
One of the best headsets I ever owned was $20 on Amazon. They lasted about 2.5 years, the mic was great especially at the price point, the mids were a little muddy but $20 is $20. If I could I'd go back in time and buy 10.
@@quadbecky14 they stopped making them but it was some offshoot non-bootleg but just cheap headset, I forget the name unfortunately as this was in like 2014. Some of those cheaper headsets use decent parts
i had one of these with another name on it like 10 years ago. Another thing to note is that the mic mute and volume control seem to be handy, but its just a pot and a switch. As such they tend to oxidize and start crackling, which is especially annoying for your buddies on discord or teamspeak. And i can guarantee you that theres no noise canceling whatsoever. Also the earmuffs tend to hurt after a couple hours.
There was once a time where I didn't think headphones mattered that much and cheaped out, but that time ended the exact moment I actually tried on remotely decent ones. Also one of the primary reasons why I've long sworn off headsets and switched to normal headphones and a mic. It's really not that expensive to buy something decent and they'll last you a lot longer than this cheap stuff will.
This headphones made me realice that quality mattered on them, a year after buying these I bought a hyper X. I whent from the I can´t hear him guy, to the I can hear him eating or breathing guy, 100% don t cheap on this, they break too fast
@@DavidRamirez-lq2co Replace the HyperX headset with a cheap pair of studio monitor headphones and a dedicated mic and you will have another revelation I promise. Something like some Superlux HD681's and a PS3 webcam microphone if you're on a budget.
@@kiri101 and how much will it cost approx. Those hyper x work good enough for me, and the next upgrade will be a mouse, I'm not replacing them if they aren't broken, but I am still curious
Also look into the headphone cable options. Mine had an optional cable with a pretty dope boom mic. Either way, go try on some at a hifi store. They usually have good ones, can actually help you and you can try how they fit on your head. Also, look at the replacement parts available. Some brands are extremely good at this.
I use one that is similar to this, but i ordered a pair of 20$ IEMs and a 4$ lavalier mic off Aliexpress just today and based on reviews this combo should be so much better than this piece. Sure, it's two cables instead of one, and lav mic requires a bit more hassle, but i think both the sound and the mic performance will be worth it UPD: Finally got all the stuff, so time for a quick review: according to my friends the mic is ok and doesn't sound better or worse if placed on the collar, so it's basically the same thing, just with a touch more hassle, however the iems compensate for it: i've never thought the games sound this spacious. To be fair, my 30$ tws earbuds sound about the same(a bit less bass and the highs aren't as clean as far as i can tell, and maybe a touch worse soundstage), but compared to the headset it's much better and i would easily pick the sound quality and hassle of putting on iems and a lavalier rather than the convenience and crappy sound of a 25$ headset.
IEM's is the way. I went with some Salnotes and everything sounds great and footsteps don't go unheard lol. Have a separate mic too that's way higher quality than the ones included on these headset. All for cheap
@@GoPotato69 yeah, i heard those in dankpods videos, and the inline mics are great for the price(especially the kbear one), but the earbuds themselves dont seem to be particularly good in terms of sound, so all the audiophile community tends to lean towards salnotes zero and tangzu wan'er(which is what i got)
Solid point , but earbuds are physically in your ear but heatset are not , I know not everyone will but most of the time earbuds are just such a bad option for a lot of people especially for a long perid of playtime (1+ hour) I have a ie800 and a empire bravado and mk2 and ESR. Even custume made $1200 IEMs you will still feel kinda weird after wearing them for like 1~2 hours , and 2 hours are nothing when it comes to games you need to talk and commuinicate like Apex. even trash build quality $20 heatset will physically feels much more comfortable after like a 2 hour gaming than earbuds
Hey Linus, just wanted to provide some feedback for the blue headset, I actually had that headset and still do, however it hurt my ears if I wore it for long periods of time. Also the mic volume was always quite quiet, due to the mic being so far away and not adjustable. Something the manufacturer doesn't tell you as well is the blue foam on the time does disintegrate over time, to the point of constantly getting blue plastic in my hair and is also deemed not worth reselling, believe me I have tried. This is just from my experience with the headset, so you can use this info as you wish
Yeah, I've had a similar experience, but I haven't had the blue pleather disintegrate, definitely long lasting, though, I've had mine for 6 or so years
And my highly rated Audio-Technica ATH-M50x cushions have crumbled and do the same. Every expensive pair of headphones I've owned has had problems like this. They all cheap out on one part or another. The microphone on my phone was beaten out by a literal dollar store mic. It's hilariously stupid how technology is today.
Hey linus I love the "amazon bestseller series" but I think it would be cooler and more helpful if you included a bigger sample size. e.i. the top 5 best sellers on amazon. Would be cooler to see a comparison.
He once said that, he really wants to when the lab gets fully functioning. He once also stated that, comparing bunch of similar products is the key goal of the lab. And i believe this series is there to start off that idea in smaller scale.
You hit the nail on the head a few years ago with the HyperX Cloud2 'stuff that doesn't suck' review. I had one for years and it was absolutely excellent. Sold it and moved to a better set of audiophile headphones and a dedicated mic. But for a gaming headset it was basically unbeatable.
@@extraminje look into the devine usb, very cheap for what you get, been using mine for producing and gaming! Even got the Pro 4000 headphones. 30 bucks for AMAZING sound. Razer is nothing compared to this.
Anthony is genuinely excellent at ad reads. I see so many on this website that are awkward or feel like a hostage situation, but Anthony always seems natural, honest, and charismatic. What a talented guy!
I bought this headset in 2017 from Wish, for my Nintendo Switch. Theyre under a different brand but the exact same headset. I've used them on multiple consoles and PC, and they're great for the price. My only issue is there's noticable noise bleed when playing with friends online. As in, my friends can hear themselves feeding back through my headset. I've since replaced the headset, but it's still my back up.
I remembered having Redragon Zeus 2 headsets in this price range mid-pandemic, and it has an amazing sound quality. It contains two removable wires, 1 wire for 3.5mm plug, and 1 for usb plugs. The sound curve and mic input can be edited and it can sound like those logitech ones and can make your voice sound like you're in a studio.
GOOD IDEA.. I want to build a computer for a man cave and would like to see you build one on your channel. I want to take the front end of a sports car and attach on a wall so front end faces out and you can open hood. In the engine bay is where the computer goes. You can add lighting for looks. This would be a good series to see on the channel. You can buy fiber glass copies of a lot of sports cars which makes it easier. I've seen people use back end of a car to make a bench or small couch.
A much better, longer lasting option for the price would be a similarly priced set of IEM earbuds, with a cheap mic alongside it if the included cable doesn't have one built in (said cable is also often replaceable). There's a ton of options on amazon for either situation.
Totally agree, I'm willing to bet my entire setup that my cheap KZ IEMs slaps this thing around, they have a decent quality raplaceble cable with a mic. Also most importantly, they aren't cringe as fuck.
Today I learned the USB for my cheap off-brand headset was for the light effects, which I had no idea they had and never bothered plugging in the USB the moment I realized it didn't give me sound or mic. I'm seeking an upgrade now but I must admit, the jump from a 30$ headset to the 300$+ set my friends tend to use is INSANE. The 32$ options feels a lot more reasonable, I don't need crazy quality just a set that allows me to hear and be heard without the headset being obnoxious when I talk with my friends. I can be obnoxious all on my own, without a bad mic.
if you wanna compromise on cost while actually getting likely even better audio quality. Get yourself good regular over ear headphones ( quite a few fantastic options in the 100-200 range) and you can slap a modmic on it for high quality coms for another 50 or so.
Do yourself a favor, get a cheap $50+ mic like the Samson Q2U then use the rest on headphones that are specifically made for decent listening vs "gaming headsets". You don't even have to spend that much for the headphone. $100-$150 range pure headphones (not mic) will sound as good (possibly better) as a $250+ gaming headset. Or if earphones are more your thing there are plenty of options in Chifi (chinese brand audio) that range from $20 to $100 that will sound amazing.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 the funniest part of our similar posts to me is that " do yourself a favor" was the initial wording that popped in my head but went with the second one as my fingers started typing.
@@MrDJAK777 I did that back in the day when my creative gaming headset died. I took my set of Sony MDR-V6s that I have had forever and slapped a Modmic on them. Total cost was $130, $80 for the Sonys and $50 for modmic.
Bought them in 2015 and used them until a few months ago. Wore them almost everyday and found them somewhat comfortable and definitely good sounding for what you pay for. Never ever regretted buying them. And they are still working after all this years.
Me too. Bought them back in 2017 for 15$. Finally changed them with Audio Technica this year. The fake leather peeled, they look bad, but they still function as in day 1. Nothing has broken, no issues with the speakers or the mic(it was so much better than so much more expensive headsets back then). Loved them, probably the best cheap purchase in my life.
I had a 25$ xiberia v20 headset that worked amazingly and I recently saw it branded as jeecoo. It was a similar type of generic headset like bengoo. That being said, everyone said I sounded amazing and I could hear really well at distance in a game. Of course my hyper x were a significant upgrade - those generic headsets did more than a good enough job. Ears did get hot though. I highly recommend the jeecoo v20s for budget gamers. Budget headsets are actually really good these days.
god gaming headsets were the bane of my existence. I had three over the course of a year and a half where the electronics broke so they got binned. Then I learned the fact that for the price of a "good" gaming headset you can just buy actual headphones/mic and I have been using the same pair of Meze 99s and a usb at2020 for 5 years now with no problems. The combos like $280 which is a lot but your voice and audio will sound 10 times better than a "gaming " headset at that price and they will never die on you unless you run them over with a car (also the headphones are Hella comfortable even after 7 or 8 hours).
I owned this headset when I was 12, I absolutely hated it but after giving it to my brother who's less picky about things he used it for quite a while and was perfectly content with it.
I actually cite these as the reason I go for headsets on the better side. The cord failed big time within months. Audio just died on it one day and I noticed the end of the cord had basically broke off.
definitely. a lot of well-reviewed value products like this end up losing out in the quality control areas. lots of them can be good, but as good as they are for the price, they're still cheap, so a good bunch of them that people buy will have a part fail in a way higher priced options will be much more reliable. but that's no surprise
I worked at *unnamed office supply store in the us* and I would always Tell this to people… you get what you pay for. They learn eventually… or they don’t.
I have had mine for two years. I love them a lot! I don't game, but I do enjoy using them fir watching media. Great video! When I watch Star Wars; they do have surround sound. (or knowing where something is coming from). I got mine before it was named Banloo.
They seem to sound infinitely better than the first super cheap headset I bought. It was so bad it was literally unusable, crackling and distorting no matter the volume. I grabbed some Senny GSP 301s used that are great, or just a Blue desk mic used and any decent headphones, like some KZ ZSN IEMs, or the Pros with an inline mic.
I use a pair of $$50 Audio Technica headphones and the Logitech mic that came with my Rock Band 2 or 3 bundle from like 10 years ago. People have said that I sound clearer than any headset.
I have cloud2 headphones that I use since 2019 and both speakers and microphone are as good as day 1. For sure, there are other competitive options but in my case they are great after some unfortunate experience with arctic headsets. They were a bit more expensive than gsp 300 though if I recall correctly.
Interesting, I had the clouds & the clouds 2. The materials both stripped after about a year of ownership, so their pleather is a no go for me. Great for the price though! The technical specs are also good for the price. I just need longer term products so didn't replace like for like
I recently had to replace my cloud alphas after 4,5 years of really extended use. They were coming apart a bit. Really liked them though, and if it weren't for some factors notthing to do with hyperx, I would have simply bought a new pair. I went with something with better audio, a no-gamer look and a condensor mic all in one from beyerdynamics instead. But yeah, for that price hyperx offer the best headset imo.
I will say, I’ve used this headset for over a year now, and it’s pretty great. I’m genuinely happy not upgrading yet. Also, one of my cords broke, I sent a warranty claim, and they sent me a replacement within days. For twenty-something dollars, pretty solid.
I had a bengoo mouse that had the absolute perfect shape and I would still consider it the best shape I’ve ever felt sadly it just doesn’t compete with anything that does more than 500 hz polling rate, it was called the bxo63-001, i wish someone would make it into a high quality wireless version
For the price, you'd be much better off with the Koss KSC75x (25USD), or for a bit more the KPH30i with Grado G Cush earpads (~40USD, 30USD without the G Cush earpads) Much better frequency response and overall audio quality, as well as the ability to easily mod them if you're into that (The KSC75 in particular has a ton of mods to do things like adding MMCX connectors for a replaceable cable and adding a headband or mounting them to a VR head strap)
Since 90% of gaming headsets are missing Sidetone / direct Microphone feedback i have switched to Focusrite 4i4 and Beyerdynamic long ago. I can digitally mix channels without any latency, i can mix my microphone into my headphones so i have Sidetone / direct Microphone feedback and then i can also mix it into the microphone channel with different volume - i can therefore configure if i want to hear myself and how loud completely decoupled from what others hear. Also i can use the third channel and mix out my microphone only and use that as Line In for my work laptop. I then mix together my PC, laptop and smartphone using an Yamaha MG06. So tl;dr i can use the same Mic and Headset for all my devices and i can use any headset or mic i want since i own a 48V XLR converter for normal 3,5mm headsets
I enjoy these reviews of popular products, however I'd love to see reviews of expensive name brand products to see if they're actually worth it. I bought Sennheiser GSP 600s and went through 3 sets of earcups over the course of a year. I had similar issues with two different Sennheiser headsets that I owned before them too. It's what finally made me switch to Logitech.
If you still have the sennheiser around, see if they offer cloth-only earcups. their fake leather bs does fall apart within weeks, but the cloth ones I bought as a replacement (same price) have held up ever since I got them.
@@IanDresarie Don't have them anymore, and I don't recall the official store selling anything other than their pleather earcups. The earcups weren't the only thing wrong with them though. The mic stopped working after about a month. Also, I accidentally dropped the headset a small distance and one ear basically snapped off the whole adjustment bracket (or w/e it's supposed to be called). You could shove it back on but it'd fall off if you weren't careful.
@@IanDresarie yeah the cloth ones are so much better, my dad has been daily driving his hd595's for the last 10 or so years with the cloth earcups and only now are they starting to wear a bit. while the original pleather ones broke after around a year
I just never use stock earcups. Get some headphones, try em for a few weeks to see if the stock ones are good, realize they aren't, and buy brainwavz sheepskin ones.
I've used this one....twice. This is not that great, but for the money, it's good enough. I find Turtle Beach's cheapest headsets to be much better for not too much more money though.
Interesting, my first headset when I got an Xbox was a £30 turtle beach. It had a super cheap build, hardly any padding on the band, and made my ears sore 🤔 I guess mileage varies
Probably should buy a higher quality one, when u cycle through multiple cheap ones 😅 buying cheap most likely is always buying twice (or even more times)
I personally have the DROP + Sennheiser PC37X, awesome headset that has served me well. Great audio quality with strong build quality and a good price. I got it on sale for 80$, normally $120-125. They’re obviously nowhere near as cheap as these are, but they’re an awesome pair of headphones that will last you a long time.
I have the PC38X and they're pretty good too, but I feel like the mic has some trouble sometimes. It's hard to pin down but sometimes people tell me they can't hear me unless I put the mic practically in my mouth. This can change from one call to the next with no consistency though.
a Koss KSC75 still beats this headset by thousands of miles, and it's cheaper! It sounds quite close to midfi cans that cost 15x more of its price and can arguably be called "The only headphones you'll ever need" as they're really good sounding for their price, beats everything within its range up to 3x more of its price
I had this headset at one point and I used it heavily at the time. It lasted for about 2 years or so before the wire got to the point where it only worked at a certain angle. It was a bit tight on the head, but not that bad. Also the cups were slightly small making them into a sort of on-ear instead of around ear headphone. The mic was acceptable at this price point, but the mute switch didn't actually fully my mic. Rather it reduces the mics volume a whole bunch, but sounds of me clapping or dropping a pencil could still be picked up by the mic. The cup s would get uncomfortable within 2 hours and your ears will be red after 4 hours of use. They are also a bit on the heavier side and the headband cushion doesn't do to well of a job. Your head will be dented if you use these.
Tbh after the massive price drop, the Logitech G435 wireless gaming headphones is really hard to beat, especially the white ones now going for $30. Microphone isn’t the best but it’s enough to hold a decent conversation, but the audio it surprisingly good and comparable to Logitech’s $100 variants.
In regards to the sponsor, they are actually BUSSIN I've gotten some nice affordable glasses with all the bells and whistles, and I bought them way back in 2017! Still with me today, they are worth it!
Please do a video explaining/testing the effects off thermal paste pump out, i’ve been getting a lot of pumping out effect on notebooks and gpus (cpus are fine) after 6 months / 1 year (or even less time) with noctua nt-h1 and h2… For those who dont know what im talking about, is when the paste physically leaks out of the place that is meant to be.
A question that's more related to the videos in general - why put the very quiet background music? It actually makes it very tiring to listen, as you register something's there, but it's so quiet behind the voice that it's not audible enough to enjoy while being too loud to ignore.
Oh the irony. I literally have this exact set of headphones. The sound is not bad, comfort is less than stellar and I've never used the mic myself. I have it because my youngest son damaged his good wireless headset and this got this one as a replacement. Then he took my good ones so I got stuck with these till I get some new ones
After watching Tek Syndicate's "Gaming Headsets Suck" video about 8 years ago, I bought the Superlux HD681 headphones + Antlion ModMic. Great bass response and nice soundstage, perfect for CS:GO in my opinion. This setup is still amazing, with my only gripe being that the elastic cords wore out because my head is so large. The stock ear pads can be replaced, but I still have not needed to, even with my excessively abrasive 5 o'clock shadow. I have more recently purchased a used pair of Phillips SHP9500 headphones + a generic mic from Amazon. I prefer these for longer usage, such as for Zoom/Teams/phone calls and music while working, as they feel lighter and the open back provides an even larger sound stage and I can still hear other things in the room due to the open back design. But the Superlux + ModMic are still my favorite for gaming.
Bro, I actually bought that headset _YEARS_ ago! I have no idea where it is currently, but it worked completely fine. I think I bought them under the brand name "Sades". I later bought a different headset on ebay under a Chinese brand I can't remember, that was a couple more dollars expensive and made in matte black plastic with a blue light, *which I loved!* I used them for years, but they went missing a while back. After that I bought an expensive wireless Corsair headset that broke after a few months because of the poor quality of the plastic, so a cheap headset from ebay can last you longer than an expensive one...
Got these headphones on Christmas from a brother, I had no idea they were that popular but anyway. The sound is pretty good but not something amazing but the feel makes up for it, I can have these headphones for 10+ hours and my ears and the area around my ears will never hurt or burn, the mic is ok but had to bump it up maybe because of my PC but idk. edit: As Linus says that your ears will get hot... not my problem probably bcs my ears are so big, all of the foam is on my ears and not "behind".
This video is how I learned that Sennheiser does still make gaming headsets in some capacity, and I can finally upgrade the set I've had from them for years
I just recently unburied my OG Sennheiser GSP 600s and they still sound soooo good. The only thing i had to replace was the EarCups and the cable since they were 3+years used.
One thing about companies like this is that some of them will get reviews on an item, then swap out all the item information and leave the reviews intact, so when questioning always check to see if there are reviews that sound like they're for another product entirely.
the g435 are are insane value when on promo. got them once for 40€ here in germany, 2.4ghz and bluetooth, lightweight, from logitech and good looking. isnt worth the normal 80€ but when they are 50ish or under (in euro with tax) then they are defnetly a great buy
For the $50 range I grabbed the Logitech G35's like 4-5 years ago and they worked very well. The mic wasn't terrible and the audio quality was acceptable. Now I have Sennheiser HD58X's though
You should try doing a hidden gem video, for example, headsets from unknown companies that are actually good or even rival big names, that would be interesting.
I bought one of these 3 years ago (well the same headset under a different brand on sale for $15. It's been the best headset I've ever owned. Even so called premium ones usually end up breaking after a year or so. Oh and the mic? It's fine and used along with Nvidia Broadcast, It sounds just fine for anything I do. I obviously would use these for a video call, but for gaming and casual chatting in virtual worlds, they are hard to beat. I'm amused whenever I see a streamer or TH-cam creator using some iteration of these. I'm like "Yeah, they know." When these eventually go, I'll buy another. I just wish I'd found them earlier and not wasted so much money on crappy name brand ones.
The real issue with the pleather ear cuffs, on basically any headset, the pleather begins to melt off basically and its just gross. The under foam doesn't have any other protection so it gets filthy fast from just being on you. This is even including showering constantly, the oils in your skin just get sucked up into the foam after they dissolved the pleather Also these look exactly like the KOTION/VersionTech G2000 headphones, like down to the exact same build and everything. Just less LEDs and less cool looking I guess. I used the G2000 for awhile because they didn't cost much and were fantastic headphones, stopped using them because the pleather began melting like crazy as the glue holding it together fell apart. Great part of the G2000 is that it comes with a splitter for mic and headphones for most PC's
I had those exact headphones a few years ago, and I wore them almost all the time while I was awake for at least 1.5 years before they broke for some reason. EDIT: I bought a clone of these, the KOTION EACH G9000 headphones. I am only realizing this when I dug though my search history.
I just had to comment on the video's sponsor. I picked up one via an Amazon "open box" deal ($260 vs $400+ "new") and it has been great. Love the touch controls & the color accuracy is spot on. It makes a great portable monitor for my Steam Deck and 2nd monitor for my Asus 2022 G14, which also has a calibrated screen. Yes, there are cheaper portable monitors, bigger ones, ones with higher resolution, etc. But I am not sure many will do better than this one.
I'd like to point out that I own the Sennheiser GSP 350 headphones and at some point I found out that my Windows OS was unable to properly auto update due to the audio drivers that were included for this product. It took me several weeks to figure out why windows was constantly getting stuck while trying to do mandatory security updates. Only removing the drivers completely fixed the issue and allowed me to update my Windows OS again.
I bought a similar pair a few years ago from amazon for $35. As someone that barely uses a headset unless im playing with friends for the price they're pretty decent.
Hey, if you're doing this "why is everyone buying x" series, what about a series "why is nobody buying x" where you look for products (or that the team already knows) that are very underrated, although requiring more work than this series and would most likely be a niche I think it could be interesting.
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Dude I would be so down for this. I like finding stuff that fell through the cracks of consumer eyes.
Uh can I take this idea for my channel?
They should retitle it:
_"Why are a lot of people buying this x"_
Having frequency response graphs for budget audio tech is great, I hope you can do more of it in the future.
Its one of the first things I check when trying to gauge how good things sound but the few sites that report them generally only cover audiophile level gear
"I hope you can do more of it in the future."
That's exactly why they spent a boatload of money on the Labs.
One would hope they where actually using a flat frequency response as the target, unless they are aiming to reproduce the frequency response of an other headset brand. In the professional audio world, when we buy monitors we go for the ones that have the flatter frequency response curve.
@@emanuelchayer1756 human hearing is not flat lol
@@capitaoahab7069 yh but I think he means flat so that it could be adjusted manually better. Like recording video in a flat picture profile so it can be graded better.
@@emanuelchayer1756 speakers are measured on measurement microphones while headphones are measured on ear simulators. You can see there's a boost on midrange on headphone frequency target because that's what we hear. Also that frequency response has created based on flat sounding speakers. If you measure flat sounding speakers on ears simulators you'll get similar result except on bass region. Bass is higher on headphone target because headphones need more bass to create speakers' bass effect that we feel on our body rather than only on ear region.
My biggest concern with a lot of these Amazon best-selling products is that their 10s of thousands of ratings are almost always extremely misleading. Many/most of these smaller cheap Chinese brands is that they somehow re-use/recycle listings for products while keeping the total ratings of the older products. I can't even tell you how many times I've looked at a product that was essentially brand new and had thousands or tens of thousands of positive reviews, where many of the reviews were quite clearly for a different product altogether. I really with Amazon would do something about this because it is the epitome of ratings-manipulation and dishonest business practice. Buyer beware...
What they do is they flood their brand with some good but cheap products and some bad and also cheap products and somehow the good product they made somehow ends up with reviews for all their products as a whole on all their items idk why it doesn’t make any sense.
@@Kjtuiono No, what they actually do is abuse Amazon's feature that lets you edit your product's details (which is absolutely fair and important to have). They put out a cheap and decent product, generally in a high volume, 'easy' market (like kids toys), let it gather a bunch of reviews, then completely overhaul the page to the tech or electronic product they want to scam off on. It's pretty noticeable if you save one of their 'original' items, wait long enough, and you'll see that one day it magically transforms into something entirely different. Amazon isn't mixing product reviews at all, it's the seller changing the product page itself.
Their latest video just covered this exact topic too, ironically.
@@RockingStar1011 that’s exactly what I said. They flood their brand with shit products that manage to have reviews placed on all their items.
@@Kjtuiono It's close, but it's not exactly what you said. The reviews aren't being placed on "all their items", the reviews are staying with the 'product' that was reviewed itself and then the 'product' is changed. There's a difference between the two scenarios.
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Hey, just wanted to say thank you for including frequency response graphs in your headphone reviews now. I love objectivity in the audio space.
Indeed. Subjectivity is great, but not when it's somebody else's heh.
Loving that LTT are reviewing cheaper products and not automatically ruling them out because they're cheap or an unknown brand. Please keep up this series as this could really help out kids buy their first gaming gear or those of us who have a tighter budget. Nice job guys, please keep up the good work 😁
I feel like that's the bare minimum
This kind of review like that is great specially with the "but you can get something significantly better with X amount extra", really useful for anyone wanting to buy this stuff. I hope you guys could get that covering more stuff (even if it is just something written on the website or something like that).
A great example of better than this at the same amount is Koss's KSC75. For the price of $20, you can get some of the most brilliant sounding headphones out there.
I’d love LTT to do a behind the scenes breakdown of just how well these ‘most popular on Amazon’ videos do compared to others. Especially as they seem to have a cheaper cost than others.
Nice one folks!
I love how charitable Linus becomes to the products in this series despite mostly being used to high end gear. Understanding the value/price ratio has to be one of Linus 's finest qualities
I had a different badged version of these prior to being gifted some $500 headphones from work. The cable casing frayed over time, and they weren't particularly comfortable to wear for long periods, but they got the job done. For $20, they're an amazing deal if you just need something that works and works adequately.
They weren't so bad that I felt like I needed to throw them away when I got the upgrade. I still used them on my gaming PC for a year or so.
You were gifted $500 headphones?!? Wtf Which ones?
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e B&O Beoplay H9 about 3 years ago for my 10 year work anniversary. Looks like they are a bit cheaper now, though with the newer model coming out
Love seeing the stuff the lab does slowly creeping into content. Excited to see what is coming.
I love this format. However, if you recommend alternatives, I would love to see the data on audio response and also test of that mic the same. Not long, but just quick flashes that show what makes it "better." Great information, as always.
A quick side-by-side of the two test results would be ideal.
I don't think he's going to recommend alternatives in a video clearly bought and paid for by Bengoo. This was a 12:45 long advert. :P
@Joseph Frietze right just a here is the one we are talking about here is the one that's a little better if you have the money here is the one that is a little worse if you don't.
@Your Wight Knight I doubt they have the budget for that, besides this is a clear formula they have been doing as a series now. Find Amazon's number one best-selling "insert tech item here" cover it. If this is a 12-minute endorsement on anything, it would be using Amazon's tool to drive the decision-making in your purchases however, time and time again this series proves that these products are "ok" at best.
@@TechnoEsoterica no
Cool to see them making new content now that the labs is set up, looking forward to more headset coverage!
I love LTT, but Labs actually has the potential to change the world a bit. Partially due to the focus on quality measurements, but more so because it's privately funded. Other outlets have to balance advertiser revenue etc. So much respect for how you and Yvonne built the business.
If you look at subjective audiophile channels they're sponsored by brands that are selling very overpriced items. And the thing is they have very bad measurements. For example AudioScienceReview has measured audio upscalers, power cleaners and cables that are selling for thousands of dollars and they did not made any difference.
sorry, bit of a noob.. who's/what's Labs?? I watch mostly GN nowadays as they're more objective, and totally stopped with jayz2cents, he got slowly annoying to watch :p
@@crh18 LTT Labs. They bought headphone, keyboard, mouse and more product test equipments and they even hired an audio engineer to test headphones. It's still in work but they're sometimes testing stuff and showing results on normal videos. AFAIK they're also going to make a website like RTings. Additionally that test equipments are very expensive. For example if I'm not wrong that headphone analyser is $50.000. They also have much expensive power supply tester but Seasonic sponsored them on that.
Lets be honest, it won't 'change the world'. Let's not pretend that measurements and analysis doesn't already exist for products. It will just be a convenient place to find it.
@@crh18 No worries. Labs is a new business started by LTT purely focussed on doing objective measurements. For example measuring colour accuracy for monitors for, tracking accuracy for mice, power supply efficiency etc.
They already do many of the tests for the LTT videos, but they're building a website too where you can compare products etc.
Basically they want to be able to call out marketing bullshit and provide people with a central hub from which they can get accurate product information. That somewhat exists, but the private funding and the reach of LTT puts it on another level.
One of the best headsets I ever owned was $20 on Amazon. They lasted about 2.5 years, the mic was great especially at the price point, the mids were a little muddy but $20 is $20. If I could I'd go back in time and buy 10.
What's it called
@@quadbecky14 they stopped making them but it was some offshoot non-bootleg but just cheap headset, I forget the name unfortunately as this was in like 2014.
Some of those cheaper headsets use decent parts
@@UrbanNinja1497 my cheap headset that was great was a nubwo headset and it still works
i had one of these with another name on it like 10 years ago. Another thing to note is that the mic mute and volume control seem to be handy, but its just a pot and a switch. As such they tend to oxidize and start crackling, which is especially annoying for your buddies on discord or teamspeak. And i can guarantee you that theres no noise canceling whatsoever. Also the earmuffs tend to hurt after a couple hours.
Lol I'd just get a used Fifine mic for less than 20 bucks and a decent ultra cheap pair of KZ earbuds for less than 10 bucks 😁
There was once a time where I didn't think headphones mattered that much and cheaped out, but that time ended the exact moment I actually tried on remotely decent ones. Also one of the primary reasons why I've long sworn off headsets and switched to normal headphones and a mic. It's really not that expensive to buy something decent and they'll last you a lot longer than this cheap stuff will.
This headphones made me realice that quality mattered on them, a year after buying these I bought a hyper X.
I whent from the I can´t hear him guy, to the I can hear him eating or breathing guy, 100% don t cheap on this, they break too fast
@@DavidRamirez-lq2co Replace the HyperX headset with a cheap pair of studio monitor headphones and a dedicated mic and you will have another revelation I promise. Something like some Superlux HD681's and a PS3 webcam microphone if you're on a budget.
@@DavidRamirez-lq2co Hyper X is still trash tbh :s
@@kiri101 and how much will it cost approx.
Those hyper x work good enough for me, and the next upgrade will be a mouse, I'm not replacing them if they aren't broken, but I am still curious
Also look into the headphone cable options. Mine had an optional cable with a pretty dope boom mic.
Either way, go try on some at a hifi store. They usually have good ones, can actually help you and you can try how they fit on your head. Also, look at the replacement parts available. Some brands are extremely good at this.
I had the head phones when I was younger and they were perfect for 10 year old me siting on my couch casually gaming.
I use one that is similar to this, but i ordered a pair of 20$ IEMs and a 4$ lavalier mic off Aliexpress just today and based on reviews this combo should be so much better than this piece. Sure, it's two cables instead of one, and lav mic requires a bit more hassle, but i think both the sound and the mic performance will be worth it
UPD: Finally got all the stuff, so time for a quick review: according to my friends the mic is ok and doesn't sound better or worse if placed on the collar, so it's basically the same thing, just with a touch more hassle, however the iems compensate for it: i've never thought the games sound this spacious. To be fair, my 30$ tws earbuds sound about the same(a bit less bass and the highs aren't as clean as far as i can tell, and maybe a touch worse soundstage), but compared to the headset it's much better and i would easily pick the sound quality and hassle of putting on iems and a lavalier rather than the convenience and crappy sound of a 25$ headset.
iems r the way to go
ones like the Kbear ks1 or KZ actually have really decent stock mics
IEM's is the way. I went with some Salnotes and everything sounds great and footsteps don't go unheard lol. Have a separate mic too that's way higher quality than the ones included on these headset. All for cheap
My £20 iems are better than my £90 hs70 pros by a country mile
@@GoPotato69 yeah, i heard those in dankpods videos, and the inline mics are great for the price(especially the kbear one), but the earbuds themselves dont seem to be particularly good in terms of sound, so all the audiophile community tends to lean towards salnotes zero and tangzu wan'er(which is what i got)
Solid point , but earbuds are physically in your ear but heatset are not , I know not everyone will but most of the time earbuds are just such a bad option for a lot of people especially for a long perid of playtime (1+ hour) I have a ie800 and a empire bravado and mk2 and ESR. Even custume made $1200 IEMs you will still feel kinda weird after wearing them for like 1~2 hours , and 2 hours are nothing when it comes to games you need to talk and commuinicate like Apex. even trash build quality $20 heatset will physically feels much more comfortable after like a 2 hour gaming than earbuds
The labs results are a great addition. Looking forward to seeing more of these comparisons
bruh
Hey Linus, just wanted to provide some feedback for the blue headset, I actually had that headset and still do, however it hurt my ears if I wore it for long periods of time. Also the mic volume was always quite quiet, due to the mic being so far away and not adjustable. Something the manufacturer doesn't tell you as well is the blue foam on the time does disintegrate over time, to the point of constantly getting blue plastic in my hair and is also deemed not worth reselling, believe me I have tried. This is just from my experience with the headset, so you can use this info as you wish
Yeah, I've had a similar experience, but I haven't had the blue pleather disintegrate, definitely long lasting, though, I've had mine for 6 or so years
And my highly rated Audio-Technica ATH-M50x cushions have crumbled and do the same. Every expensive pair of headphones I've owned has had problems like this. They all cheap out on one part or another. The microphone on my phone was beaten out by a literal dollar store mic. It's hilariously stupid how technology is today.
Have this headset for 2 years. Never had a problem whatsoever
Hey linus I love the "amazon bestseller series" but I think it would be cooler and more helpful if you included a bigger sample size. e.i. the top 5 best sellers on amazon. Would be cooler to see a comparison.
He once said that, he really wants to when the lab gets fully functioning. He once also stated that, comparing bunch of similar products is the key goal of the lab. And i believe this series is there to start off that idea in smaller scale.
You hit the nail on the head a few years ago with the HyperX Cloud2 'stuff that doesn't suck' review.
I had one for years and it was absolutely excellent. Sold it and moved to a better set of audiophile headphones and a dedicated mic. But for a gaming headset it was basically unbeatable.
Yeah I don't need anything super duper good so I absolutely love my HyperX Cloud2's
Im very happy with my HyperX cloud headphones but would like to up my mic tho. Any tips? @whomstwatchesthewatches
@@extraminje look into the devine usb, very cheap for what you get, been using mine for producing and gaming! Even got the Pro 4000 headphones. 30 bucks for AMAZING sound. Razer is nothing compared to this.
Anthony is genuinely excellent at ad reads. I see so many on this website that are awkward or feel like a hostage situation, but Anthony always seems natural, honest, and charismatic. What a talented guy!
I bought this headset in 2017 from Wish, for my Nintendo Switch. Theyre under a different brand but the exact same headset. I've used them on multiple consoles and PC, and they're great for the price. My only issue is there's noticable noise bleed when playing with friends online. As in, my friends can hear themselves feeding back through my headset. I've since replaced the headset, but it's still my back up.
I remembered having Redragon Zeus 2 headsets in this price range mid-pandemic, and it has an amazing sound quality. It contains two removable wires, 1 wire for 3.5mm plug, and 1 for usb plugs. The sound curve and mic input can be edited and it can sound like those logitech ones and can make your voice sound like you're in a studio.
GOOD IDEA.. I want to build a computer for a man cave and would like to see you build one on your channel. I want to take the front end of a sports car and attach on a wall so front end faces out and you can open hood. In the engine bay is where the computer goes. You can add lighting for looks. This would be a good series to see on the channel. You can buy fiber glass copies of a lot of sports cars which makes it easier. I've seen people use back end of a car to make a bench or small couch.
A much better, longer lasting option for the price would be a similarly priced set of IEM earbuds, with a cheap mic alongside it if the included cable doesn't have one built in (said cable is also often replaceable). There's a ton of options on amazon for either situation.
Yup, the Moondrop Chu with built-in mic is a great option.
Totally agree, I'm willing to bet my entire setup that my cheap KZ IEMs slaps this thing around, they have a decent quality raplaceble cable with a mic. Also most importantly, they aren't cringe as fuck.
Yea but i wouldn't want sound getting blasted right in my ear drums for long gaming sessions.
@@aleph-not ahhh the crinacle buds
@@ponyslavestation4669 just turn down the volume? its really no different from using headphones
Today I learned the USB for my cheap off-brand headset was for the light effects, which I had no idea they had and never bothered plugging in the USB the moment I realized it didn't give me sound or mic. I'm seeking an upgrade now but I must admit, the jump from a 30$ headset to the 300$+ set my friends tend to use is INSANE. The 32$ options feels a lot more reasonable, I don't need crazy quality just a set that allows me to hear and be heard without the headset being obnoxious when I talk with my friends. I can be obnoxious all on my own, without a bad mic.
if you wanna compromise on cost while actually getting likely even better audio quality. Get yourself good regular over ear headphones ( quite a few fantastic options in the 100-200 range) and you can slap a modmic on it for high quality coms for another 50 or so.
Do yourself a favor, get a cheap $50+ mic like the Samson Q2U then use the rest on headphones that are specifically made for decent listening vs "gaming headsets". You don't even have to spend that much for the headphone. $100-$150 range pure headphones (not mic) will sound as good (possibly better) as a $250+ gaming headset.
Or if earphones are more your thing there are plenty of options in Chifi (chinese brand audio) that range from $20 to $100 that will sound amazing.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4people talking about cheap mic for $50 while I am using the $2.5 mic and it's totally fine 💀
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 the funniest part of our similar posts to me is that " do yourself a favor" was the initial wording that popped in my head but went with the second one as my fingers started typing.
@@MrDJAK777 I did that back in the day when my creative gaming headset died. I took my set of Sony MDR-V6s that I have had forever and slapped a Modmic on them. Total cost was $130, $80 for the Sonys and $50 for modmic.
Almost bought these. So glad I spent the extra $10 on a pair of Corsair H65s
I'd love to see a follow up with 5 of these purchased over a month. That should give a nice look at quality control
1:53 "should be pretty durable"
*cracks loudly
I used to have these headphones and I just replaced them since the mic was beginning to die. These somehow lasted me for 2 years.
If I had a dollar for every time Linus made this face on a thumbnail
Anyone else looking up what new headset to buy then get this video’s notification?
No, because this headset sucks.😊
I saw the silhouette and immediately thought "This can't be what I think it is". I've had that headset for over a year and it's still going strong.
Bought them in 2015 and used them until a few months ago. Wore them almost everyday and found them somewhat comfortable and definitely good sounding for what you pay for. Never ever regretted buying them. And they are still working after all this years.
Me too. Bought them back in 2017 for 15$. Finally changed them with Audio Technica this year. The fake leather peeled, they look bad, but they still function as in day 1. Nothing has broken, no issues with the speakers or the mic(it was so much better than so much more expensive headsets back then). Loved them, probably the best cheap purchase in my life.
I had a 25$ xiberia v20 headset that worked amazingly and I recently saw it branded as jeecoo. It was a similar type of generic headset like bengoo. That being said, everyone said I sounded amazing and I could hear really well at distance in a game. Of course my hyper x were a significant upgrade - those generic headsets did more than a good enough job. Ears did get hot though. I highly recommend the jeecoo v20s for budget gamers. Budget headsets are actually really good these days.
god gaming headsets were the bane of my existence. I had three over the course of a year and a half where the electronics broke so they got binned. Then I learned the fact that for the price of a "good" gaming headset you can just buy actual headphones/mic and I have been using the same pair of Meze 99s and a usb at2020 for 5 years now with no problems. The combos like $280 which is a lot but your voice and audio will sound 10 times better than a "gaming " headset at that price and they will never die on you unless you run them over with a car (also the headphones are Hella comfortable even after 7 or 8 hours).
I owned this headset when I was 12, I absolutely hated it but after giving it to my brother who's less picky about things he used it for quite a while and was perfectly content with it.
I actually cite these as the reason I go for headsets on the better side. The cord failed big time within months. Audio just died on it one day and I noticed the end of the cord had basically broke off.
definitely. a lot of well-reviewed value products like this end up losing out in the quality control areas. lots of them can be good, but as good as they are for the price, they're still cheap, so a good bunch of them that people buy will have a part fail in a way higher priced options will be much more reliable. but that's no surprise
I worked at *unnamed office supply store in the us* and I would always Tell this to people… you get what you pay for. They learn eventually… or they don’t.
I have had mine for two years. I love them a lot! I don't game, but I do enjoy using them fir watching media. Great video! When I watch Star Wars; they do have surround sound. (or knowing where something is coming from). I got mine before it was named Banloo.
They seem to sound infinitely better than the first super cheap headset I bought. It was so bad it was literally unusable, crackling and distorting no matter the volume. I grabbed some Senny GSP 301s used that are great, or just a Blue desk mic used and any decent headphones, like some KZ ZSN IEMs, or the Pros with an inline mic.
Nothing can beat the comfort and sound quality of an open-back headphone.
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Lol i absolutely hate open back as i can hear absolutely everything in my house
bozo hasn't tried IEMs before
@@nu52927 bro has a razer headset
i can hear my fucking ac bruh
I use a pair of $$50 Audio Technica headphones and the Logitech mic that came with my Rock Band 2 or 3 bundle from like 10 years ago. People have said that I sound clearer than any headset.
I have cloud2 headphones that I use since 2019 and both speakers and microphone are as good as day 1. For sure, there are other competitive options but in my case they are great after some unfortunate experience with arctic headsets. They were a bit more expensive than gsp 300 though if I recall correctly.
Too bad the mic on the cloud II is awful compared to even headsets that are half the price (including HyperX's own cloud alpha!)
I use stereo headphones and a lavaliere mic because I've set up a rig that lets me pass audio between my Xbox, PC, and phone as I want.
Interesting, I had the clouds & the clouds 2. The materials both stripped after about a year of ownership, so their pleather is a no go for me. Great for the price though! The technical specs are also good for the price. I just need longer term products so didn't replace like for like
I recently had to replace my cloud alphas after 4,5 years of really extended use. They were coming apart a bit. Really liked them though, and if it weren't for some factors notthing to do with hyperx, I would have simply bought a new pair. I went with something with better audio, a no-gamer look and a condensor mic all in one from beyerdynamics instead. But yeah, for that price hyperx offer the best headset imo.
@@licksludgee i can also confirm, my Clouds cups tore up pretty bad after about a year.
The frequency response curves addition to the headphone review Is great, please do this more often especially on the short circuit episodes
I will say, I’ve used this headset for over a year now, and it’s pretty great. I’m genuinely happy not upgrading yet. Also, one of my cords broke, I sent a warranty claim, and they sent me a replacement within days. For twenty-something dollars, pretty solid.
I had a bengoo mouse that had the absolute perfect shape and I would still consider it the best shape I’ve ever felt sadly it just doesn’t compete with anything that does more than 500 hz polling rate, it was called the bxo63-001, i wish someone would make it into a high quality wireless version
For the price, you'd be much better off with the Koss KSC75x (25USD), or for a bit more the KPH30i with Grado G Cush earpads (~40USD, 30USD without the G Cush earpads)
Much better frequency response and overall audio quality, as well as the ability to easily mod them if you're into that (The KSC75 in particular has a ton of mods to do things like adding MMCX connectors for a replaceable cable and adding a headband or mounting them to a VR head strap)
Or go for IEM and go with either Salnotes Zero or Truthear Hola, those are also pretty well received.
Since 90% of gaming headsets are missing Sidetone / direct Microphone feedback i have switched to Focusrite 4i4 and Beyerdynamic long ago. I can digitally mix channels without any latency, i can mix my microphone into my headphones so i have Sidetone / direct Microphone feedback and then i can also mix it into the microphone channel with different volume - i can therefore configure if i want to hear myself and how loud completely decoupled from what others hear. Also i can use the third channel and mix out my microphone only and use that as Line In for my work laptop. I then mix together my PC, laptop and smartphone using an Yamaha MG06.
So tl;dr i can use the same Mic and Headset for all my devices and i can use any headset or mic i want since i own a 48V XLR converter for normal 3,5mm headsets
I enjoy these reviews of popular products, however I'd love to see reviews of expensive name brand products to see if they're actually worth it. I bought Sennheiser GSP 600s and went through 3 sets of earcups over the course of a year. I had similar issues with two different Sennheiser headsets that I owned before them too. It's what finally made me switch to Logitech.
If you still have the sennheiser around, see if they offer cloth-only earcups. their fake leather bs does fall apart within weeks, but the cloth ones I bought as a replacement (same price) have held up ever since I got them.
@@IanDresarie Don't have them anymore, and I don't recall the official store selling anything other than their pleather earcups. The earcups weren't the only thing wrong with them though. The mic stopped working after about a month. Also, I accidentally dropped the headset a small distance and one ear basically snapped off the whole adjustment bracket (or w/e it's supposed to be called). You could shove it back on but it'd fall off if you weren't careful.
@@IanDresarie yeah the cloth ones are so much better, my dad has been daily driving his hd595's for the last 10 or so years with the cloth earcups and only now are they starting to wear a bit. while the original pleather ones broke after around a year
I just never use stock earcups. Get some headphones, try em for a few weeks to see if the stock ones are good, realize they aren't, and buy brainwavz sheepskin ones.
I've used this one....twice. This is not that great, but for the money, it's good enough. I find Turtle Beach's cheapest headsets to be much better for not too much more money though.
Yes sure if i pay one dólar i will get that i paid for
Interesting, my first headset when I got an Xbox was a £30 turtle beach. It had a super cheap build, hardly any padding on the band, and made my ears sore 🤔 I guess mileage varies
@@BenJaded Some of them do suck, but I upgrade my pads on all of my headsets so thats not an issue for me
Probably should buy a higher quality one, when u cycle through multiple cheap ones 😅 buying cheap most likely is always buying twice (or even more times)
@@mosch1811 oh 100%, hence why I used past tense, That was 2018. The OP implied that cheap turtle beach were still good
Reviews segment is gold! The best inclusion you could have done for this style of video
Why is no one talking about how Linus "intentionally" threw his laptop on the ground? Has he just given up on keeping tech intact?
Edit: 1:05
It may be a table. Also, even if it is the floor, things should be built to handle basic falls like that.
My backpack was there - LS
@@LinusTechTips Lmao ok
I personally have the DROP + Sennheiser PC37X, awesome headset that has served me well. Great audio quality with strong build quality and a good price. I got it on sale for 80$, normally $120-125. They’re obviously nowhere near as cheap as these are, but they’re an awesome pair of headphones that will last you a long time.
I have the PC38X and they're pretty good too, but I feel like the mic has some trouble sometimes. It's hard to pin down but sometimes people tell me they can't hear me unless I put the mic practically in my mouth. This can change from one call to the next with no consistency though.
a Koss KSC75 still beats this headset by thousands of miles, and it's cheaper! It sounds quite close to midfi cans that cost 15x more of its price and can arguably be called "The only headphones you'll ever need" as they're really good sounding for their price, beats everything within its range up to 3x more of its price
I had this headset at one point and I used it heavily at the time. It lasted for about 2 years or so before the wire got to the point where it only worked at a certain angle. It was a bit tight on the head, but not that bad. Also the cups were slightly small making them into a sort of on-ear instead of around ear headphone. The mic was acceptable at this price point, but the mute switch didn't actually fully my mic. Rather it reduces the mics volume a whole bunch, but sounds of me clapping or dropping a pencil could still be picked up by the mic. The cup s would get uncomfortable within 2 hours and your ears will be red after 4 hours of use. They are also a bit on the heavier side and the headband cushion doesn't do to well of a job. Your head will be dented if you use these.
Tbh after the massive price drop, the Logitech G435 wireless gaming headphones is really hard to beat, especially the white ones now going for $30.
Microphone isn’t the best but it’s enough to hold a decent conversation, but the audio it surprisingly good and comparable to Logitech’s $100 variants.
In regards to the sponsor, they are actually BUSSIN I've gotten some nice affordable glasses with all the bells and whistles, and I bought them way back in 2017! Still with me today, they are worth it!
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Im surprised that you're here 🤨
Next time since you are a Millionair buy like 20 of them and then run the test... if you already know that the quality may be diff - THEN TEST IT
I got my hyperx headphones and blue yeti mounted on arm above my monitor for over 5 years. Still working, still the best.
Please do a video explaining/testing the effects off thermal paste pump out, i’ve been getting a lot of pumping out effect on notebooks and gpus (cpus are fine) after 6 months / 1 year (or even less time) with noctua nt-h1 and h2… For those who dont know what im talking about, is when the paste physically leaks out of the place that is meant to be.
The standard thermal paste is almost always cheap stuff but replacing it with a better one only gets you maybe degree or two decrease.
@@Yooster do you even know what i’m talking about?
Is that when the paste physically leaks out of the place is meant to be?
@@Wiisporter yes!
Those were my first “gaming” headphones; they are absolutely garbonzo
Goblino speak, didn't understand
Agreed. I had this and used it for a week before I stopped using it and got a Razer headset
I have used those GSP300-350’s for years now. They are very comfy and sound quality is good for my use
Bro this is frickin garbage and not worth 20$. There's literally 10$ headphones literally like these lmao
This is being heavily overanalysed. The reason everyone's buying this headset is because Joe Biden wears them.
@@Blue-Lady lol
Haha
had this headset for years when I played on my ps4. it was a great headset for the time and I don't regret buying it at all.
Just get old audio gear! It’ll have soooo much better sound and build quality.
Thanks for this! Picking up the EPOS headset for my teenage daughter.
We've all had a phase where we used off brand headsets like these, these budget headsets have a special place in my heart ❤️
A question that's more related to the videos in general - why put the very quiet background music? It actually makes it very tiring to listen, as you register something's there, but it's so quiet behind the voice that it's not audible enough to enjoy while being too loud to ignore.
Ive got the G2000's, and had them for 5 years.....Still going strong :)
Man having the lab to finally test gaming headsets and get real data on the best gaming headset would be a great and informative video
Oh the irony. I literally have this exact set of headphones. The sound is not bad, comfort is less than stellar and I've never used the mic myself. I have it because my youngest son damaged his good wireless headset and this got this one as a replacement. Then he took my good ones so I got stuck with these till I get some new ones
I bought my hyper x cloud 2’s around 6/7 years ago and they’re working extremely well till this day. Highly recommend.
I bought these. Had them for 3 years. Absolutely loved them. For what they were, they were so cool and they worked for all my gaming adventures
After watching Tek Syndicate's "Gaming Headsets Suck" video about 8 years ago, I bought the Superlux HD681 headphones + Antlion ModMic. Great bass response and nice soundstage, perfect for CS:GO in my opinion. This setup is still amazing, with my only gripe being that the elastic cords wore out because my head is so large. The stock ear pads can be replaced, but I still have not needed to, even with my excessively abrasive 5 o'clock shadow.
I have more recently purchased a used pair of Phillips SHP9500 headphones + a generic mic from Amazon. I prefer these for longer usage, such as for Zoom/Teams/phone calls and music while working, as they feel lighter and the open back provides an even larger sound stage and I can still hear other things in the room due to the open back design.
But the Superlux + ModMic are still my favorite for gaming.
Love the set for this video! Warm yellow background takes me to the 2000s for some reason.
I've been using the same turtle beach headset since PS3 launch day and it still works on current generation playstation, xbox, and pc.
Bro, I actually bought that headset _YEARS_ ago!
I have no idea where it is currently, but it worked completely fine. I think I bought them under the brand name "Sades".
I later bought a different headset on ebay under a Chinese brand I can't remember, that was a couple more dollars expensive and made in matte black plastic with a blue light, *which I loved!* I used them for years, but they went missing a while back.
After that I bought an expensive wireless Corsair headset that broke after a few months because of the poor quality of the plastic, so a cheap headset from ebay can last you longer than an expensive one...
Got these headphones on Christmas from a brother, I had no idea they were that popular but anyway. The sound is pretty good but not something amazing but the feel makes up for it, I can have these headphones for 10+ hours and my ears and the area around my ears will never hurt or burn, the mic is ok but had to bump it up maybe because of my PC but idk.
edit: As Linus says that your ears will get hot... not my problem probably bcs my ears are so big, all of the foam is on my ears and not "behind".
This video is how I learned that Sennheiser does still make gaming headsets in some capacity, and I can finally upgrade the set I've had from them for years
I just recently unburied my OG Sennheiser GSP 600s and they still sound soooo good. The only thing i had to replace was the EarCups and the cable since they were 3+years used.
I have a similar headset, the cosmic byte h-11
which has absolutely the same features, quality and price but with a slightly different design
One thing about companies like this is that some of them will get reviews on an item, then swap out all the item information and leave the reviews intact, so when questioning always check to see if there are reviews that sound like they're for another product entirely.
the g435 are are insane value when on promo. got them once for 40€ here in germany, 2.4ghz and bluetooth, lightweight, from logitech and good looking. isnt worth the normal 80€ but when they are 50ish or under (in euro with tax) then they are defnetly a great buy
For the $50 range I grabbed the Logitech G35's like 4-5 years ago and they worked very well. The mic wasn't terrible and the audio quality was acceptable. Now I have Sennheiser HD58X's though
I use GSP 300 for years now and they're great. My foam also split the same way tho.
I think I got that headset, and MY MICROPHONE SNAPPED! THE REASON I WANTED IT!
You should try doing a hidden gem video, for example, headsets from unknown companies that are actually good or even rival big names, that would be interesting.
I bought one of these 3 years ago (well the same headset under a different brand on sale for $15. It's been the best headset I've ever owned. Even so called premium ones usually end up breaking after a year or so. Oh and the mic? It's fine and used along with Nvidia Broadcast, It sounds just fine for anything I do. I obviously would use these for a video call, but for gaming and casual chatting in virtual worlds, they are hard to beat. I'm amused whenever I see a streamer or TH-cam creator using some iteration of these. I'm like "Yeah, they know." When these eventually go, I'll buy another. I just wish I'd found them earlier and not wasted so much money on crappy name brand ones.
this is a really good review, i like that you look up other peoples reviews and dirt on the company
The real issue with the pleather ear cuffs, on basically any headset, the pleather begins to melt off basically and its just gross. The under foam doesn't have any other protection so it gets filthy fast from just being on you. This is even including showering constantly, the oils in your skin just get sucked up into the foam after they dissolved the pleather
Also these look exactly like the KOTION/VersionTech G2000 headphones, like down to the exact same build and everything. Just less LEDs and less cool looking I guess. I used the G2000 for awhile because they didn't cost much and were fantastic headphones, stopped using them because the pleather began melting like crazy as the glue holding it together fell apart. Great part of the G2000 is that it comes with a splitter for mic and headphones for most PC's
I had those exact headphones a few years ago, and I wore them almost all the time while I was awake for at least 1.5 years before they broke for some reason.
EDIT: I bought a clone of these, the KOTION EACH G9000 headphones. I am only realizing this when I dug though my search history.
That mic sounds actually good and so natural!
I just had to comment on the video's sponsor. I picked up one via an Amazon "open box" deal ($260 vs $400+ "new") and it has been great. Love the touch controls & the color accuracy is spot on. It makes a great portable monitor for my Steam Deck and 2nd monitor for my Asus 2022 G14, which also has a calibrated screen. Yes, there are cheaper portable monitors, bigger ones, ones with higher resolution, etc. But I am not sure many will do better than this one.
I'd like to point out that I own the Sennheiser GSP 350 headphones and at some point I found out that my Windows OS was unable to properly auto update due to the audio drivers that were included for this product. It took me several weeks to figure out why windows was constantly getting stuck while trying to do mandatory security updates. Only removing the drivers completely fixed the issue and allowed me to update my Windows OS again.
I bought a similar pair a few years ago from amazon for $35. As someone that barely uses a headset unless im playing with friends for the price they're pretty decent.