How this information 3:16 would help you to tailor your massage? Will you treat a person in a different way according to their alcohol intake or smoking habits? You really puzzled me here… I understand you might ask if a client had any alcohol taken prior to massage - and refuse their treatment if they’re drunk. And smoking too.. Do you have different massage techniques for smokers and non-smokers? I happen to agree with the client- the form should only contain questions relevant to their massage session.
Thank you panel. That was a really useful, informative and interesting discussion. As a therapist who has had my own business since 2007, I have come across all of the issues and difficulties discussed. I have definitely become firmer with challenging situations over the years whilst still maintaining flexibilty with very regular clients. I still feel I have room for improvement though so your tips were invaluable. Thank you again.
Pleased to hear you found the discussion informative and interesting especially as a well established therapist! Please do let us know if there are any topics you would like us to cover in the future!
Few interesting points in the discussion, especially about educating clients and place for ego in the therapists work as well as need/ no need for boundaries.
What kind of thoughts do you have with patients that feel they need to guide you constantly during treatment to the point of you feeling like you cant suggest areas to work on that will definitely be benificial. I've treated some extreme chronic nerve pain patients, essentially waiting for surgery to get relief they are in so much pain. I have been operating under the thinking, that these might be exceptions since I am working on what they like and they do get temporary relief. But occasionally I feel like I can do more, but there is a block since the patient is seriously afraid of more pain. Very understandable, just curious what your thoughts are.
Thanks for your question Ken! Two of our panel had thoughts they would like to share with you! Imi Testa This is a little difficult as each client is different so there may be many reasons why they are guiding you. They may be scared of pain or have past trauma or simply know what works best for them. They will absolutely know their pain best though. I am trying to stop and listen more (very hard!). I have some fab books (Explain Pain by Moseley and Butler and The Pain Free Mindset by Dr. Deepak Ravindran amongst others) and will lend these to clients of they are struggling. The Curable app is amazing too. I listened to a talk recently (I think it was on the STA podcast on motivational interviewing ) where the guest was talking about working with their client being “more like dancing and less like wrestling”which I loved. Anna Maria Mazzieri Again Imi Testa hit the nail on the head there. Although the OP feels that they may be areas they want to work more on, how beneficial would that work be, if the client doesn’t particularly want that area to be touched? A person may be protecting an area because they feel threat there somewhere. I d advice the OP to encourage that conversation of why they are fearful of that area being touched, and while respecting their reasons the OP could help the client to understand about pain and correct any unhelpful beliefs if they are present. This is way more effective than actually working on that area.
Really good tips and I didn't know about ICO, so very glad I have this sorted now!
Personal safety is an important skill for us as therapists to learn.
Tysm
How this information 3:16 would help you to tailor your massage? Will you treat a person in a different way according to their alcohol intake or smoking habits? You really puzzled me here… I understand you might ask if a client had any alcohol taken prior to massage - and refuse their treatment if they’re drunk. And smoking too.. Do you have different massage techniques for smokers and non-smokers? I happen to agree with the client- the form should only contain questions relevant to their massage session.
Thank you panel. Throughly enjoyed ,very real day to day scenario's that can arise.
Thank you panel. That was a really useful, informative and interesting discussion. As a therapist who has had my own business since 2007, I have come across all of the issues and difficulties discussed. I have definitely become firmer with challenging situations over the years whilst still maintaining flexibilty with very regular clients. I still feel I have room for improvement though so your tips were invaluable. Thank you again.
Pleased to hear you found the discussion informative and interesting especially as a well established therapist!
Please do let us know if there are any topics you would like us to cover in the future!
Few interesting points in the discussion, especially about educating clients and place for ego in the therapists work as well as need/ no need for boundaries.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it! Please do let us know if there are any topics you would like us to cover in the future!
What kind of thoughts do you have with patients that feel they need to guide you constantly during treatment to the point of you feeling like you cant suggest areas to work on that will definitely be benificial. I've treated some extreme chronic nerve pain patients, essentially waiting for surgery to get relief they are in so much pain. I have been operating under the thinking, that these might be exceptions since I am working on what they like and they do get temporary relief. But occasionally I feel like I can do more, but there is a block since the patient is seriously afraid of more pain. Very understandable, just curious what your thoughts are.
Thanks for your question Ken! Two of our panel had thoughts they would like to share with you!
Imi Testa
This is a little difficult as each client is different so there may be many reasons why they are guiding you.
They may be scared of pain or have past trauma or simply know what works best for them. They will absolutely know their pain best though.
I am trying to stop and listen more (very hard!). I have some fab books (Explain Pain by Moseley and Butler and The Pain Free Mindset by Dr. Deepak Ravindran amongst others) and will lend these to clients of they are struggling. The Curable app is amazing too. I listened to a talk recently (I think it was on the STA podcast on motivational interviewing ) where the guest was talking about working with their client being “more like dancing and less like wrestling”which I loved.
Anna Maria Mazzieri
Again Imi Testa hit the nail on the head there.
Although the OP feels that they may be areas they want to work more on, how beneficial would that work be, if the client doesn’t particularly want that area to be touched?
A person may be protecting an area because they feel threat there somewhere. I d advice the OP to encourage that conversation of why they are fearful of that area being touched, and while respecting their reasons the OP could help the client to understand about pain and correct any unhelpful beliefs if they are present. This is way more effective than actually working on that area.
Tell them this treatment isn't right for them and refer out.
In clinicals. A little worried.
6:00 I just won't treat them.