If it wasn’t for that part and I couldn’t see harstem pov then I would of said harstem Not splitting up the oracles to confirm the scout on the spire and acted like it was massive despite it being completely obvious and some other things.
Minor suggestion, don't reveal whether or the changing or teammate till after the game ends. Also love these. Really glad to see pros that actually love their jobs 😉
Poor Clem for that last game. He seemed so stressed knowing he was a teammate and being convinced of both other players but not wanting to distrust either.
Even watching from harstem's POV he looks like changeling in the protoss game with how often he's doing nothing except watching the area where the changeling is mucking about
Wardi complaining about someone changing the barracks hotkey...I'm pretty sure that in archon, each player has their own control groups. Edit: Confirmed when Harstem asks Clem what hotkeys he set the Nexus to.
this was amazing entertainment! i loved how harstem automatically analyzes everything and flawlessly uses it as arguments. also i'd love to see clem in a couple years from now, beeing a cheeky yet wholesome talker like harstem ^^
Clem has no poker face whatsoever. If he's "trying to look serious" he looks serious. If he's "trying to downplay laughing" he looks not laughing. But since "blame Wardi's micro" is such an imba move he gets away with it. XD
Harstem, this series is fun to watch. i have a suggestion to spice it up lol. there should be a random chance that you are all teammates and there is no changeling. and then that adds a twist in the convincing stage lol, when everyone is a teammate you know, because you expect the changeling to say hes a teammate:D just a thought.
in a scenario where there is no changling there would be a very clean play without any obvious grief tricks, so unless you also make it so that a changling player can earn a point when the team wins
def would lead to just a free win for the teammates, and just some fun banter between the player's trying to accuse smby perhaps, or just general confusion that everything went as well as it did, but not much more, maybe a one of a kind episode
@@Beanybag2 it means that they can't be sure of who the previous changelings were, so that makes it harder to tell if someone is acting differently etc in different games, and adds a bit of uncertainty.
@@Beanybag2 The style of Changeling was very clearly different each game. Game 1) Wardi screwed up the micro and the combat units as much as possible, but never once failed on the macro front to try to avoid suspicion since that's what he was in charge of. Rather than subtly cancel unit production, he shot down Medivacs with Marines. Game 2) Clem was messing everything up both micro and macro, but only in one place at a time, rapidly switching from place to place. Clearly that required high APM and he tried to mess up both micro and macro to make it less obvious who the Changeling could be. Game 3) Harstem only screwed with the macro. He tried to make it subtle, canceling a few larvae at first, but realized that they were winning and canceled 20 larvae at once. He never once touched the micro of the combat units. Knowing the way in which each person was screwing with the game made it obvious that the Changeling was different every time which limited the number of people you had to choose from.
Aight i know you probably wont do this, but its bad to hold position the workers. They show up in the idle tab. It's better to put them on a control group and send every worker towards the enemy mineral line off a probe walk. This way, its a fking nightmare to re assign them
That's good, could also put groups of 2 in patrol between the hatch/nex/CC and the minerals so it looks like they are still mining but no money coming in
Anyone else remember that one time Harstem was in an archon, they played rps for reaper control, everyone went rock including Harstem, but he switched at the last moment and won it? Good times.
clems amazing, if there was a gofundme for an episode with reynor and clem together i would dump my savings into it. they have the best banter and at that high a level, just might be the goat sc2 content ever created.
He like... literally can't hide it when we're watching everything from his POV. It's instantly revealed as soon as he hold positions probes the first time or cancels an upgrade or something.
@@Umiale I mean, you can dream. maybe they'd go through the effort of getting all 3 POVs, and then splicing them together as to where you can't see who's the changeling, only showing you parts where each player plays properly. but, i dont think they'd go for that, normally they just stick with harstem's POV for these collab videos
About the hellions vibrating in game 1: actual double selected hellions don't move like that, as two people fighting for control wouldn't click at the exact same frequency, so you'll see beats. That is, the average movement across like 5 u-turns would slowly vary between going one way and then the other. This if you have no idea what I am talking about---> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(acoustics). Only way for hellions to move like what we saw in game, discounting bugs, is to queue up move commands beforehand. Shift right click far away once to buy you time, and then shift right click two closeby locations again and again.
I think it would add another layer to the whole thing if we as a watcher would not know what harstem is. Sometimes the plays are so fast that its kinda hard to spot em if you are not actively watching for those. also i think it would be cool if the results were shown in the end of the vidi. so all 3 games with aftermath and votes but only in the end of the video everyone would get the results of whos who. just imo
But nice point. If both team where the same then double content and no pro needs playing silent. Would needed a second caster though and 6 players at once. Maybe one try as a special?
Clem played game 2 exceptionally, but I also agree with Wardi on the "I scouted the spire" argument. The way Harstem kept emphasizing it so aggressively and singularly made it seem like he had made the call as Changeling to make one obviously game saving play so that he could sabotage the game thereafter and keep coming back to that one play as a defense. I think it in general is Harstem's weakness as Teammate. He puts too much power into him knowing that he is a Teammate and makes it sound like "It can't be me so it must be Clem", but to everyone else it can be him.
Na, Wardii just doesn't understand the game. Its pretty sad since he's played since 2010 but it's more annoying since he forced himself into commentating games but he doesn't really know what's going on
Imagine saying "they call me Clem" to Clem
LOL, I missed that. That's such a Harmstem thing :D
And getting no reaction.
To who else are you going to say that? :)
wrg, no such thing as get or imax or x thing, say any nmw s perfx
😂😂😂😂Clem losing the stalkers and then asking Wardi to control them 🤣🤣🤣
wrgg
28:35 for people looking
If it wasn’t for that part and I couldn’t see harstem pov then I would of said harstem
Not splitting up the oracles to confirm the scout on the spire and acted like it was massive despite it being completely obvious and some other things.
The rage reactions into a slightly upbeat "Nice job, guys" by Harstem in the last one was an instant classic
Could become a meme :D
I've rewatched it like 10 times already 🤣
I know it's probably hard to organize but this is easily my favorite Harstem content 🙂🙂🙂
Glad you guys enjoy it :)
@@hamster_designs you are amazing Hamster, thanks you for all you do💯
@@hamster_designs Serral as a guest for this would be sick 😀
wrr
YES MORE CHANGELING CONTENT! It's been too long, definitely one of my favorite Harstem series :D
edit: misspelled changling -> changeling
Minor suggestion, don't reveal whether or the changing or teammate till after the game ends. Also love these. Really glad to see pros that actually love their jobs 😉
@@jayaskme2942? are you talking about Harstem? you’ll be able to watch him sabotaging the team, so this doesn’t make sense
Poor Clem for that last game. He seemed so stressed knowing he was a teammate and being convinced of both other players but not wanting to distrust either.
Even watching from harstem's POV he looks like changeling in the protoss game with how often he's doing nothing except watching the area where the changeling is mucking about
That is the ideal way to catch the changeling, that makes him look like the opposite.
@@henningbreede6428 true, but just like in a lot of social deduction games, there's a tradeoff whenever sacrifice your own alibi to investigate
Man, clem is just so much fun to watch, he has a great personality! I hope we will see him more often on the channel!
Wardi complaining about someone changing the barracks hotkey...I'm pretty sure that in archon, each player has their own control groups.
Edit: Confirmed when Harstem asks Clem what hotkeys he set the Nexus to.
Harstem has the best content. So unique and just loads of fun.
more changeling please this is some quality content
this was amazing entertainment! i loved how harstem automatically analyzes everything and flawlessly uses it as arguments.
also i'd love to see clem in a couple years from now, beeing a cheeky yet wholesome talker like harstem ^^
I can't get enough of StarcCraft Changeling, keep it up!
CHANGELING IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
Harstem, don't stop these series they are super cool!
Clem has no poker face whatsoever. If he's "trying to look serious" he looks serious. If he's "trying to downplay laughing" he looks not laughing. But since "blame Wardi's micro" is such an imba move he gets away with it. XD
it's nice to put faces to all the players since I usually only see their names during replays
Harstem, this series is fun to watch. i have a suggestion to spice it up lol.
there should be a random chance that you are all teammates and there is no changeling. and then that adds a twist in the convincing stage lol, when everyone is a teammate
you know, because you expect the changeling to say hes a teammate:D
just a thought.
Then they would just crush whoever their playing agaisnt…
in a scenario where there is no changling there would be a very clean play without any obvious grief tricks, so unless you also make it so that a changling player can earn a point when the team wins
We had a 3 Changelings round once ;]
@@hamster_designs wich episode ??
def would lead to just a free win for the teammates, and just some fun banter between the player's trying to accuse smby perhaps, or just general confusion that everything went as well as it did, but not much more, maybe a one of a kind episode
31:10 Harstem could have a future as a lawyer ahead of him when he retires from SC2 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldve voted Harstem as teammate in all 3 games
he has had more practice
Beautiful idea. Nice to see it again on this channel.
30:52 Clem's face LUL "aww shit he got me"
I'd like to see this where you put in the votes after each game, but you only find out if you were right or not after all 3 games are completed.
Why?
@@Beanybag2 it means that they can't be sure of who the previous changelings were, so that makes it harder to tell if someone is acting differently etc in different games, and adds a bit of uncertainty.
@@Beanybag2 The style of Changeling was very clearly different each game.
Game 1) Wardi screwed up the micro and the combat units as much as possible, but never once failed on the macro front to try to avoid suspicion since that's what he was in charge of. Rather than subtly cancel unit production, he shot down Medivacs with Marines.
Game 2) Clem was messing everything up both micro and macro, but only in one place at a time, rapidly switching from place to place. Clearly that required high APM and he tried to mess up both micro and macro to make it less obvious who the Changeling could be.
Game 3) Harstem only screwed with the macro. He tried to make it subtle, canceling a few larvae at first, but realized that they were winning and canceled 20 larvae at once. He never once touched the micro of the combat units.
Knowing the way in which each person was screwing with the game made it obvious that the Changeling was different every time which limited the number of people you had to choose from.
Thats a great idea
Ahahaha harstem's reaction at the end is so epic... He's hurraying while crying...
Love the layout of the webcams on the UI, works great!
Aight i know you probably wont do this, but its bad to hold position the workers. They show up in the idle tab. It's better to put them on a control group and send every worker towards the enemy mineral line off a probe walk. This way, its a fking nightmare to re assign them
That's good, could also put groups of 2 in patrol between the hatch/nex/CC and the minerals so it looks like they are still mining but no money coming in
@@davedavy5406 holy that’s evil
Just patrol them. It's not any harder with your suggestion, but easier to spot on the minimap.
What if changeling was 3v3 archon and there's two teams and they each have a traitor
We were thinking about that, but its hard enough getting 4 people together. 😅
Anyone else remember that one time Harstem was in an archon, they played rps for reaper control, everyone went rock including Harstem, but he switched at the last moment and won it? Good times.
Pro imposter move: control group steal everything off your teammates’ control groups…
20:41 "we are not here to have a good time" 😂😂😂😂😂
This is my favorite one of your series... very entertaining :)
I’m pretty sure that Clem is getting dragged by both the channeling and the teammate.
(the second it uploads) another great vid harstem, keep it up!
Gotta say tho, Clem's a mighty fine looking young chap! 😂
You guys should keep switching archon roles. That will give the changeling a chance to do micro/micro, and make the games more dynamic! 😄
"Well I was! Because it was him!"
i love this show so much
clems amazing, if there was a gofundme for an episode with reynor and clem together i would dump my savings into it. they have the best banter and at that high a level, just might be the goat sc2 content ever created.
YES I LOVE THESE!!!!!!!! WE NEED MORE THESE ARE AWSOME!
This is the best idea I have seen in SC2 for a long time X)
i am straight. however:THAT CLEM CREATURE IS GORGEOUS.
"they call me clem" lmao
Poor Wardi. So fausly accused, I feel bad
Great content, but it would be great if Hamster pointed out some of the changeling plays for us slower people
More of these but do best of 5 to make guessing the changeling harder and more interesting
Clem can play the role of the Flash
I love it when you upload
You have to do one with both Clem and Reynor. The banter would never stop :D
I insist you hide whether or not you're the changeling, it adds to the suspense (also good vid cap you sexy dutch individual)
He like... literally can't hide it when we're watching everything from his POV. It's instantly revealed as soon as he hold positions probes the first time or cancels an upgrade or something.
@@selearth3123 let me dream damn you
@@Umiale I mean, you can dream. maybe they'd go through the effort of getting all 3 POVs, and then splicing them together as to where you can't see who's the changeling, only showing you parts where each player plays properly. but, i dont think they'd go for that, normally they just stick with harstem's POV for these collab videos
They could get an observer's pov, no?
About the hellions vibrating in game 1: actual double selected hellions don't move like that, as two people fighting for control wouldn't click at the exact same frequency, so you'll see beats. That is, the average movement across like 5 u-turns would slowly vary between going one way and then the other. This if you have no idea what I am talking about---> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(acoustics).
Only way for hellions to move like what we saw in game, discounting bugs, is to queue up move commands beforehand. Shift right click far away once to buy you time, and then shift right click two closeby locations again and again.
@Harstem : Could you please create a Changeling map ? I'd love to play it with friends !! Your videos are sooooooooooooooooooo fun, thank you
Changeling is one of my favourite shows keep it up!
7:30 if 2 players have the same units selected just spam opposing commands, there wouldnt be any selection animation now, would be?
First time seeing Clem.. he's damn cute isnt he?
I would love a quick "these are the rules" so I know how the point system work
Please do more of this! it is so funny
wardi looks like al from al's toy barn
you gotta give wardi some slack..
You're a content MACHINE!
So nice game, I really enjoy watching
Harstem...you should conceal who you are as well in these videos...but I love this idea of the Changeling
poor ward, I hope he still enjoyed it
Thus was fun to watch, thanks
best episode of the series yet, loved it!
clem is so funny cause of is france akzent and then this micro sooooo tide!!! REALLY nice game! :)
You should ask the best players back in a later episode, I feel Clem did a very good job
Uuuh, a new episode of my favorite Harsten format 😃 I like 😁
this is funny. all 3 times the changeling was the macro guy
28:50 AUHuhauhauhaUHaUHaUH
44:04 auhuhauhauhauhauh
I feel like the changeling should get at least half a point for making his team lose.
Too hard otherwise.
Harstem talks a lot less when he's the changing.
I love this series
Clem eyes are pitch black. He almost looks like CGI
Shoutout to Demi!
Clem is so handsome, btw^^ Also these deep dark eyes say a little about his tricky nature))
What a twist
Quality content, need more.
I just got an idea for your next bgmwss. You have florencio on call and he tells you the builds. Instant 100000 view video.
great content
I think it would add another layer to the whole thing if we as a watcher would not know what harstem is. Sometimes the plays are so fast that its kinda hard to spot em if you are not actively watching for those. also i think it would be cool if the results were shown in the end of the vidi. so all 3 games with aftermath and votes but only in the end of the video everyone would get the results of whos who. just imo
The beginning of the protoss game should have had a trigger warning for scizofrenics XD
Great show, unsure if a new idea but I'll be a long time viewer
Love seeing Clem
Calling the mutas urgently was massive
Didn’t watch the video yet but this feels like a great combo of people
I think it will be way more entertaining if we dont know if harstem is teammate or changeling
Love this series
Is the other team having an imposter as well ?
The other "team" is a single player ^^
But nice point. If both team where the same then double content and no pro needs playing silent.
Would needed a second caster though and 6 players at once.
Maybe one try as a special?
Sabotage!
Get Reynor & Serral on the show please! 😁
if anyone plays rocket league, you know that wardi is turbopolsa off wish lmfao
I love this game
Poor Wardi, no respect lol
I actually like it more without the timer on the discussion part ... let team speak :D
Hi Captain
Clem played game 2 exceptionally, but I also agree with Wardi on the "I scouted the spire" argument. The way Harstem kept emphasizing it so aggressively and singularly made it seem like he had made the call as Changeling to make one obviously game saving play so that he could sabotage the game thereafter and keep coming back to that one play as a defense.
I think it in general is Harstem's weakness as Teammate. He puts too much power into him knowing that he is a Teammate and makes it sound like "It can't be me so it must be Clem", but to everyone else it can be him.
It would be really crazy to not take an opportunity to lose the game without making any mistake your teammates can call out.
@@henningbreede6428 Not if you're convinced that it entirely clears you from any suspicion, which Harstem clearly thought.
@@JohnAndJohner but what if it allows you to lose so convincingly and quickly that you have less need to mess up the game?
Na, Wardii just doesn't understand the game. Its pretty sad since he's played since 2010 but it's more annoying since he forced himself into commentating games but he doesn't really know what's going on
how tf was it clem in the second game? I swear i saw harstem doing all of that
mlem
This is hilarious
loveley!
fun one gg
Nothing against Wardi but if Reynor had been in here with Clem and Harstem that would have been gold