I like to think that the critics who condemned the sex scene as "noise instead of music" were just jealous because their own sex life didn't live up to what Shostakovich wrote :D
unpopular opinion: the sex scene is too exciting and not appalling enough - if you listen to the two bedroom scenes in Schnittke's Life with an Idiot, where the main character is violated by Lenin, they are absolutely disgusting
Mahler's rondo-"burleske" from 9th symphony(3rd part), is one of his best orchestral creations for its dynamism, sarcasm & irony. Shostakovitch's instrumentation expresses the composer's mood & nervousness with these continuous rhythmic ostinati. It seems better to me for a circus performance. (clowns,acrobats,you know)
I also find it interesting that at 7:35 we are witness to a near mockery of the "O Glaube" solo from the finale of Mahler 2! th-cam.com/video/tf5fM1i3MGQ/w-d-xo.html
Okay listen. While it is a solution, don't have children just because the two of you are bored. Honestly you'd only be missing the good ol' days when boredom was the worst of your problems.
Now I am questioning that Soviet correspondent's ears. Either it was filled with wax or yellow paper but it can't be helped that the "dissonance" already fit shostakovich's message well that it's truly made in purpose.
Since the creation of the revision was much driven by the political circumstances at the time I‘d rather think that it was pressure from the authorities that lead him to remove the scene. After all his life was quite literally at stake. I myself don‘t really think that retrospectively such a thing as „bad taste“ really stands as an argument for any cuts made to an artwork. It was a time of trying to break out of oppression and uniformity and ultimately and unfortunately failing in doing so. Hence there is no reason to look upon it with a high brow afterwards, for it was exactly what was needed and I‘d much think that it it is something we could use a bit more of today. Only trouble is, that there is almost nothing left to really shock with.
Well let’s see Joseph Stalin wasn’t the guy you would want to be working under. Not surprised one of the biggest dictators in human history hated something beautiful
I like to think that the critics who condemned the sex scene as "noise instead of music" were just jealous because their own sex life didn't live up to what Shostakovich wrote :D
Probably
unpopular opinion: the sex scene is too exciting and not appalling enough - if you listen to the two bedroom scenes in Schnittke's Life with an Idiot, where the main character is violated by Lenin, they are absolutely disgusting
@@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS I always have considered the music that accompanies the sex scene too violent. I think it of it more as a wild struggle.
Mahler's rondo-"burleske" from 9th symphony(3rd part), is one of his best orchestral creations for its dynamism, sarcasm & irony. Shostakovitch's instrumentation expresses the composer's mood & nervousness with these continuous rhythmic ostinati. It seems better to me for a circus performance. (clowns,acrobats,you know)
That trombone part is always impeccable
I also find it interesting that at 7:35 we are witness to a near mockery of the "O Glaube" solo from the finale of Mahler 2! th-cam.com/video/tf5fM1i3MGQ/w-d-xo.html
I'm not sure he knew that, but it's an interesting coincidence
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only person who saw that!
Shostakovich was a huge Mahler fan, so he may have done that on purpose
I just realized that there's a string fugato in the intermezzo! Never heard that before...
The 6 dislikes are from Stalin and his successors.
8*
Okay listen. While it is a solution, don't have children just because the two of you are bored. Honestly you'd only be missing the good ol' days when boredom was the worst of your problems.
Nice custom score
Seems thematically connected to his 9th symphony.
Or not
@@AndreyRubtsovRU Based
Dimiter Petkov plays Dimiter Petkov, wow!
Now I am questioning that Soviet correspondent's ears. Either it was filled with wax or yellow paper but it can't be helped that the "dissonance" already fit shostakovich's message well that it's truly made in purpose.
These parts are just INSANE!
6:58 When you know, you know.
Amazing. What an opera!
for some reason the first 2 minutes remind me of Mahlers Rondo Burleske.
I mean, Shostakovich loved Mahler
Amazing! Why did you prefer condense score, not a full?
So good, it was banned in Russia
Banned in Russia? Why?
@@GJYYNGII It was banned in the Soviet Union. Nowadays it is a repertory opera in Russia, performed quite regularly.
@@FueganTV Oh. I see.
nothing, i from russia and i watching this video
@@musicologist933 times sure are different now aren't they?
Since the creation of the revision was much driven by the political circumstances at the time I‘d rather think that it was pressure from the authorities that lead him to remove the scene. After all his life was quite literally at stake.
I myself don‘t really think that retrospectively such a thing as „bad taste“ really stands as an argument for any cuts made to an artwork. It was a time of trying to break out of oppression and uniformity and ultimately and unfortunately failing in doing so. Hence there is no reason to look upon it with a high brow afterwards, for it was exactly what was needed and I‘d much think that it it is something we could use a bit more of today. Only trouble is, that there is almost nothing left to really shock with.
Well it was enormously successful before it was denounced so you're probably right.
How did Stalin not like this ? It's beautiful .
^ Not to a power-hungry sex-repressed prudish closed-minded anti-intellectual tyrannical monster like he was.
He was a stupid savage.
Well let’s see Joseph Stalin wasn’t the guy you would want to be working under. Not surprised one of the biggest dictators in human history hated something beautiful
Where you find the scores?
He made this score himself
A quality performance by the singers!
3:33 russian folk... which one is it.....
Swan Lake?)
Thank you!
TNO gang where you lot hiding
agreed. It's poor taste theatrically, but musically there's nothing like it, much like in Don Giovanni.
This opera is just incomparable with Don Giovanni
@@jackminto7062 there's nothing comparable to Don Giovanni, just like there's nothing comparable to this, was my point.
What taste do you really expect when the music portrays actual romping?
Not the brightest moments of Dmitry Dmitrievich.