I just ordered my integrated tail tonight, ordered your flush turns 3 day ago, and ordered a fender eliminator last week. Im addicted to your parts and these videos are what made me choose you guys for my parts. Thank you guys a ton and keep up the amazing work. 09 cbr600rr.
Just installed mine. For those of you considering this exhaust, just know that it’s LOUD. For those of you with sensitive neighbors, beware. I love it though 🔥
Does deleting the original heat sync not make it ridiculously hot under the seat? I know there are wraps you can put around the mid pipe but that's kinda tacky imo. Just wondering how removing heat shield affects real world ride quality (think summer commuting)
It mainly depends on which exhaust you are running. With the OEM exhaust and even some aftermarket options like the Toce, Yoshimura, Arrow, and Akrapovic, the heat from the exhaust is barely noticeable and will not damage or have any affect negatively on your fairings or riding quality. For some other aftermarket options, they do not disperse the heat efficiently so you may experience some additional heat.
I am not sure about that. Toce is a brand of exhaust that we sell but we do not manufacture the parts. If you contact the manufacturer through their site they will be able to point you to your closest dealer. -BR
I bought my 2015 CBR600RR used about two months ago. It already came with some upgrades that the previous owner has already put on it. It looks like he bought the hyper pack with the old turn signal design. Witch I will change those to the halos and getting a license plate light soon. Just want to know is their a mid-pipe or a full system for the toce exhaust? Love the exhaust by the way just trying to see is there away I can save weight and make more room under the seat.
I just bought this and the black powdered coat pipe. I cannot for the life of me figure out where the springs go. In this video you have the hook for the springs on the bottom part of the pipe but mine is on the top and has nothing to hook on to on the muffler part. I ordered the 07-21 toce slip on and i have a cbr600rr 2009. please let me know what im doing wrong when you can. Thank you.
+TSTindustries I'm just saying purely from a cosmetic view it maybe heavier but I think it just looks nicer more exotic looking this exhaust system just looks very small
TST Industries. Nice video but I wish this Toce T slash undertail exhaust was bit less loud. I think it makes noise around 106 decibels . Is there any way to reduce 20 decibels more??
I ordered this muffler as I couldn't resist how good looking it is but unfortunately have the water leaks between the mid pipe and the canister as I cold start it.. I contacted the parts dep and maintenance as well but no answer..
Just bought this but my bike does not have those bushing to connect the other side of the lowering links can someone help me or tell me what they are called
hey so i’m having trouble mounting my exhaust. the mounting point on the subframe where the exhaust lowering links attaches is just a big hole for me. there is a hole in the subframe about the diameter of a quarter where it looks like there should be some screw fixture in which i screw the exhaust into the subframe. This is shown in the video. however my bike does not have that. what’s the name of that part and is there any other way to mount it without the fixture?
I have a 2015 cbr. Im just interested in the toce black tips... Can i just take yoshi off i have now ans put on the toce??? Are the exhaust the same size??
Even if the diameter of the midpipe was the same, the position of the canister inlet will be different, as well as the angle. SO you are better off just getting the whole set to avoid problems.
will the 07 slip on fit on my 06? I hear slip ons are compatible but I did not know if it was true. on the website, they look very similar with no differences
+Shamell Rose the quad canister system is only available for select models like 04-06/07-08/09-14 R1, and Ducati 848/1098/1198. The quad is not available for the 600RR or the 1000RR
I'm interested in the mid-pipe only. I checked your website but there's only a stainless steel pipe that doesnt look anywhere as nice as the mid-pipes shown in this video. Can I buy these mid-pipes separately?
Unfortunately we do not sell the midpipes separately. You can opt for a black coated, or a brushed raw stainless midpipe, but it does have to come with the canister.
I thought the older CBR had a crush gasket on the header to midpipe connection. Was the original one re-used in this video? or is there not one on this bike?
+cynistersix The OEM exhaust comes off with the gasket. The Toce midpipe slips right onto the header pipe and fastens down with a clamp without the use of a gasket. This is very common in aftermarket exhausts.
Correct me if I’m wrong but is there supposed to be a clamp or something to help seal the toce canister to the mid pipe. It looked like you just twisted it in.
Most racing canisters are mounted on the midpipe via slip fit and held on by springs. Please see how this works on this particular exhaust at time stamp 14:45
TSTindustries ok yea I seen the springs installed I just didn’t think that was it. I was expecting a clamp like the one on the other end of the mid pipe connecting to the end of the headers. But I’m no expert on exhausts or riding I’d say I’m still considered a squid but maybe squid level 2 lol since I only have one season of riding under my belt so far. I really want an exhaust but I’m still trying to justify spending 600. Can we at least both agree that the mark up on the toce exhaust is a little out of hand. I mean 600 geez. I’ll probably end up being a sucker and buying one anyway but gawd damn. I could buy a car for that price.
We actually don't have much control over the pricing of the exhaust itself. The factory sets a "minimum advertised price" that we are contractually bound to. We can charge more but cannot charge less. We do have some product packages that include the exhausts along with some of our other parts where we discount our parts to make the whole package a great deal. Maybe that would appeal to you.
+Double N Benn The heat shield will have to be removed when you are installing the exhaust, but it can be re-installed afterwards if you'd like. We decided to leave it off due to personal preference, so it's all up to you.
+TSTindustries I'm referring to the undertail heat shield. I'm concerned about heat for a passenger. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about, I'm just being overly cautious
+Double N Benn If you are only installing the exhaust then that heat shield can stay in place. However, If you plan to install one of our integrated tail lights in the future then it will have to be removed. If you modify your heat shield in a way that it will not spill the heat collected from the exhaust directly onto the taillight, then you can reinstall the heatshield. We have been doing these installs since 2007 and most of the owners want the heat shield out. They never report any adverse heat accumulation after the heat shield removal.
+TSTindustries Installed Toce exhaust last night. To help anyone who is trying to keep the under tail heat shield. The holes where the exhaust brackets go through must be widened with a pair of snips (it's no big deal), and then this exhaust fits like a glove. When I fired her up for the first time it sounded amazing, 10x better than any video. You have to hear this exhaust in person. 2008 CBR600RR
I want this exhaust and the intergraded tail light and the flush mount turn signals and the fender eliminator kit . I'm in Orlando can I pick this up same day so that way I don't have to pay for shipping ?
+gibbos gibbo That is not an industry standard solution. If you look at most of the slipon exhausts available on the market they all make pipe to pipe connection. When you turn on your bike the exhaust piping expands quickly with the heat and the connection is sealed really nicely. If you look at full exhausts they are all held together by springs and that works well.
The ratchet is a Husky Rotator Ratchet. I'm not sure if Husky still sells them but other companies such as Craftsman and Stanley may offer similar products. A spring puller, a scredriver/flat head, a set of Allen keys, a wrench set, and standard socket set for the ratchet are all that is needed for this installation.
+TaylorTallent This bike was outfitted with an Integrated tail light afterwards. The installation of that product can be viewed here: th-cam.com/video/mAXPunV_UxU/w-d-xo.html
+TSTindustries This is alot of work I think but I am only a 10 year old and never really do this kind of stuff. My dad used to have a yamha fzr6 before I was born he always tells me about it because I always ask about it. Now he has a kawasaki 250 with a musari exhaust. putting it on wasn't to hard I helped him with it. When im of age I plan on getting a Cbr600RR and getting a toce exhaust. anyway though great video.
I wish this Toce T slash undertail exhaust was bit less loud. I think it makes noise around 106 decibels . Is there any way to reduce 20 decibels more??
yeah I've already saw this video, Toce exhaust makes 106 decibels at max RPM , I'm telling if I can get any special baffles for the Toce T slash exhaust to make the sound under 95 decibels
Our exhaust mounting kit included with this exhaust affords some adjustability but you can't get it parallel. This is on purpose. This preps the bike for the proper amount of spacing for use with our in-tail tail lights.
try lubricating it and fitting it off the bike a couple times. Then perform the assembly on the bike. If you use lithium grease it doesn't smoke much, and it burns off quickly
i just tried installing it on my 07 cbr600rr but above the heat shield shown in the video there is another shield above it. I wasn't able to fully take it off because on the top part it was connected by rubber piece sticking down and I couldn't figure out how to remove it. Any tips or idea how to get rid of it?
The bike in the video is a 2007. Our video portrayed the installation from full stock setup so I don't know what part you are describing. Please call in to our support line. Our guys will gladly help you once they get some more information.
Would you guys happen to know where to buy the mounts that attach to the toce exhausts? I am talking about the round mounts that are already existing in the subframe which you use to slide the bolts through to attach the lowering links that are on the exhaust. I only had one on my bike so I could only attach one link to the bike.
About to get the hyper pack for my CBR, i heard there is a computer update that has to happen for the exhaust, is that true? If so, how do I go about getting it done?
+shawnk82 The Toce slipon exhaust does not require a computer update. If you want to get maximum gains from installing an exhaust (and any other upgrades that increase air flow through the motor), then you will want to do a piggyback fuel computer or ECU reflash with a reputable dyno facility providing the tune. If you are doing things step by step you can wait on the tune and just do the exhaust for now. You will not have any problems with this setup.
Nope. The 03-04 model is the stepchild. I have never done it but technically anything is possible with knowhow and tools. You would have to rework the midpipe. That means cutting, welding, and pro ably splicing sections of tube
For the life of me I cannot get the exhaust onto the pipe almost like it doesn’t fit. Any ideas? Does it slide in quite a bit cause it looks like it’s going in sideways?
Try to fit the midpipe into the canister off the bike first. You can use just a small smear of non-petroleum grease to make it easier. Lithium soap grease works well and then just burns off.
TSTindustries tried that. Seems like it may be defective as the hole in the exhaust is too small to fit the mid-pipe. Tried it off the bike and used some grease and it’s just chipping the inside of the exhaust when trying to install it.
@@TSTindustries I’ve got a 22 600rr, so will that in your opinion damage the tail light in any way or whatsoever and if it does is there a way I can fit in the upper heat shield?
No a professionail mechanic but the awsner is probably not. The airflow will still be restricted by the CAT, It may change it slightly but not enough to need a retune. The profile on this is almost the same apart from the very end of the exhaust.
No a professionail mechanic but the awsner is probably not. The airflow will still be restricted by the CAT, It may change it slightly but not enough to need a retune. The profile on this is almost the same apart from the very end of the exhaust.
Any horsepower problems with the Toce exhaust? I've read people lose the mid range power when they put the Toce exhaust on their bikes compared to Yoshimura or TBR. Any input on this?
Jonathan Hart I believe that people that write the things you are reading are trying to justify their choice in exhaust with unsubstantiated opinions. We actually sell Yoshimura and Arrow exhausts in addition to Toce so please don't think there is some kind of bias. Any of the exhausts you mentioned will give you a little boost in top end hp if the air/fuel ratio and ignition are tuned properly. In addition, the mid-range where the torque has more to do with what you feel on the bike when street riding can also be tuned to be increased (albeit slightly...it's a tiny motor). I recommend that you do some good reading if you really want to get details on this subject. Don't listen to me, or those guys you mentioned, but instead check out "Scientific Design of Exhaust and Intake Systems." It's a book written a long time ago by some real good engineers. Most of the engineering principles in that book apply to modern sportbikes. I think that can help you more that I can, or the guys on forums, Facebook, and local parking lot pimps.
Thank you for the reply! I definitely agree and was just wondering all of your opinions because I had no clue if what I read was true. www.600rr.net/vb/18-exhaust-fuel-delivery/406969-all-existing-toce-owners-others-reservations-getting-exhaust.html This is what I read and all about it. No clue if it's true. Do you recommend a power commander 5 and good intake if you get a slip on exhaust? i'm getting a CBR600RR soon that has a yoshimura exhaust, but I want the Toce for the sound of it because it's got a low end growl that is just great. Thank you again for the reply.
Jonathan Hart yea...I gave that a quick read... nothing is more accurate than a wrist Dyno, especially riding g on the street ;). I recommend you get your bike, have some fun riding on it the way it comes, and then if you are so inclined do the following mods: 1. keep Yosh or go with exhaust of your choice 2. Replace stock air filter with a better flowing unit like BMC, K&N, MWR 3. Install PC V or a flash tune utility like Woolwich (I side with flashing because you have access to way more than with a piggyback for a better value) [ www.woolichracing.com/products/honda/honda-ecu-flashing.aspx#productTable] 4. Most Important: get a proper Dyno tune by someone that tunes race bikes. If you are in USA we can recommend someone. There will be a trade-off between top end hp and mid range torque so you will need to explain to that tuner what you need and then they will get as close as possible to that setup. I hope this helps, but again, you are taking my personal suggestions. I still recommend that you read up from authoritative sources before you make your decision. Ride safe brother... Bart
Not absolutely necessary for safety of the motor but you will not take advantage of any big performance gains until your bike is properly tuned on a dynamometer. I actually recommend Woolich ECU tuning as opposed to a piggyback fuel computer.
That's a question with a very subjective answer. We make more money on the black pipe, but I personally like the satin stainless one better. On our bikes we always run the satin. Ask that question to a broader audience and you will likely get many different answers.
Back when we sold the Arrow headers on our site guys would often purchase that combo and report really good sound and performance gains after a proper tune.
+iT's Classified CBR dyno tuning will get you some better results if that is what you are after. As with any slipon, if you install the exhaust and not tune the bike it won't harm anything, you just won't get maximum gains from the setup.
+TSTindustries strangely i decided to keep my heat shield though i installed a cat-delete midpipe and getting rid of the cats help reduce some heat (thats my understanding)
If we did a great job showing you precisely the steps involved in the installation then I would think that you would purchase from our store at TSTindustries.com
the exhaust that it's video is about will not fit an 04-07 1000RR, but there is good news. The model that will fit that 1000RR will be released soon. Please check back on our website from time to time. We are supposed to have it available in a couple weeks time.
I saw a 04-07 t-slash video on toce's instagram, they said if you wanted to order, contact them because it's not on the website yet! I think they're available
+TSTindustries, I have a 2006 CBR1000RR and I'm also looking to purchase the Toce exhaust for it like Maurice. Please let me know when it's available to order!! Thanks!
@@JoyceSimba when you replace your oem signals with LEDs the stock signaling system sees a low current draw during signaling. That will cause a fast flash. If you want your signaling system to operate at the oem 85 cycles per minute rate then you will need to deplace your relay with an LED specific one like our RLYG2, or wire in resistors to add to the current draw across your oem relay.
@@TSTindustries okay I’ll get that too then. But 1 more question Is it possible to have the sequential turn signals with the integrated tail lights on the 1000rr. I’m willing to pay more if it’s possible
@@JoyceSimba I am sorry to tell you that the 2004-2007 1000RR tail light is a very old model tail light for us and we never made them with the sequential signals.
I've noticed in most of your videos you are not using the two spring on the end canister. The springs are in the way of my tag and I don't really like how they look anyway. I figure, since end is pushed on tight and bolted up, it is pretty impossible for the center pipe to become loose or come apart. What you think? Is it safe to run with no springs on the Toce exhaust?
I have run this bike around the track pretty hard with no springs. I never had a problem. I think it is up to you to decide if you want to run the springs. I don't think they have any influence over the canister/midpipe connection since the canister is screwed into the frame.
Are you asking about the ratchet? I don't remember using a torque wrench in this video. The ratchet I used was from Husky but they made it under license from another company. Nowadays you can only get that tool from Stanley, and it is called the Rotator.
what do you mean how much they are worth? As in what they cost? Follow the link in the description to the product page and you will be presented with the current price.
Just got mine installed this weekend. Thanks for the awesome product and installation video TST Industries. Sound clip: th-cam.com/video/nFaPnWOvpkQ/w-d-xo.html
I just ordered my integrated tail tonight, ordered your flush turns 3 day ago, and ordered a fender eliminator last week. Im addicted to your parts and these videos are what made me choose you guys for my parts. Thank you guys a ton and keep up the amazing work. 09 cbr600rr.
Thank you very much. We love that you love our parts.
How did it work out? Thinking of doing the same
Always impressed by the quality of TST videos and the camera work.
Thank you very much! We are glad you appreciate the time and effort we put into our content.
This is the exhaust that I'm getting for my CBR along with the TST rear light. Looks super sleek. Thanks guys for the awesome tutorial.
Just installed mine. For those of you considering this exhaust, just know that it’s LOUD. For those of you with sensitive neighbors, beware. I love it though 🔥
Great job on this video man! Everything was clearly explained and the video got all the crucial shots. Thank You!
Thank you TST. You guys are awesome! I've had more help installing turn signals and tail lights from you guys than any others out there.
You're welcome. Glad to be of service.
I never heard the word geometry so many times out of school lol
Well, "shape" just doesn't sound good on video.
@@TSTindustries you're good. I like your vocabulary, it fits just fine in the 3rd and 4th dimension. :-)
toce exhaust is the most badass
It looks very nice :)
And sounds great as well ;)
Does deleting the original heat sync not make it ridiculously hot under the seat? I know there are wraps you can put around the mid pipe but that's kinda tacky imo. Just wondering how removing heat shield affects real world ride quality (think summer commuting)
It mainly depends on which exhaust you are running. With the OEM exhaust and even some aftermarket options like the Toce, Yoshimura, Arrow, and Akrapovic, the heat from the exhaust is barely noticeable and will not damage or have any affect negatively on your fairings or riding quality. For some other aftermarket options, they do not disperse the heat efficiently so you may experience some additional heat.
just bought a toce from y’all i appreciate the video 😁
Professional.
Thank you.
Where can I find those carbon fiber heel guards? Awesome video
I want those fairings.
Just bought the 2008 model....really want that exhaust. Any store in EU selling them???
I am not sure about that. Toce is a brand of exhaust that we sell but we do not manufacture the parts. If you contact the manufacturer through their site they will be able to point you to your closest dealer.
-BR
The toce exhaust doesn’t wiggle onto the pipe at all. Not machined down properly. Currently trying to find a way to get it to fit.
When will this be back in stock?
Hi.. I went to the website to check some stuff. But im wondering if you can shipping to Saudi Arabia because I couldn't find way to put my address?
I bought my 2015 CBR600RR used about two months ago. It already came with some upgrades that the previous owner has already put on it. It looks like he bought the hyper pack with the old turn signal design. Witch I will change those to the halos and getting a license plate light soon. Just want to know is their a mid-pipe or a full system for the toce exhaust? Love the exhaust by the way just trying to see is there away I can save weight and make more room under the seat.
I just bought this and the black powdered coat pipe. I cannot for the life of me figure out where the springs go. In this video you have the hook for the springs on the bottom part of the pipe but mine is on the top and has nothing to hook on to on the muffler part. I ordered the 07-21 toce slip on and i have a cbr600rr 2009. please let me know what im doing wrong when you can. Thank you.
I’m thinking of going with the Leo Vince exhaust but is there anyways to retain the heat shield and rear fender tail light?
Is the integrated tail light and fender eliminator required to run this exhaust or will the stock light and fender fit with it?
You can absolutely use the stock light and fender with the Toce Performance Exhaust.
You will need after the installation of the exhaust reflash brains?
I wish the toce exhaust was like the Ducati 1098 exhaust where it has 4 tips not 2 to me it just looks a little small
Do you need the extra weight on the bike, and extra internal surface area in canister to restrict flow?
+TSTindustries I'm just saying purely from a cosmetic view it maybe heavier but I think it just looks nicer more exotic looking this exhaust system just looks very small
+James Fitzsimmons the size of this exhaust is actually very proportionate to the other features on the rear of the bike
James Fitzsimmons I disagree ... the dual tips look neater imo the quad tips look like overkill
TST Industries. Nice video but I wish this Toce T slash undertail exhaust was bit less loud. I think it makes noise around 106 decibels . Is there any way to reduce 20 decibels more??
I ordered this muffler as I couldn't resist how good looking it is but unfortunately have the water leaks between the mid pipe and the canister as I cold start it.. I contacted the parts dep and maintenance as well but no answer..
Did you contact us or Toce Performance? They are the manufacturer.
Just bought this but my bike does not have those bushing to connect the other side of the lowering links can someone help me or tell me what they are called
hey so i’m having trouble mounting my exhaust. the mounting point on the subframe where the exhaust lowering links attaches is just a big hole for me. there is a hole in the subframe about the diameter of a quarter where it looks like there should be some screw fixture in which i screw the exhaust into the subframe. This is shown in the video. however my bike does not have that. what’s the name of that part and is there any other way to mount it without the fixture?
Does the T-Slash full system come with baffles already in the canister?
Yes, it does.
Is this exhaust road legal?
i looked everywhere on the toce website and couldn't find anything about that
There aren't any certifications for this exhaust so most likely no, depending on where you live.
What sliders are on the bike is that ok of your protection packages?
Anybody know what tools he used to remove all those nuts and bolts?
I have a 2015 cbr. Im just interested in the toce black tips... Can i just take yoshi off i have now ans put on the toce??? Are the exhaust the same size??
Even if the diameter of the midpipe was the same, the position of the canister inlet will be different, as well as the angle. SO you are better off just getting the whole set to avoid problems.
@@TSTindustries thanks man. Appreciate the info
@@travo1228 you're welcome
Im unable to get into my rear seat lock, is there anyway i can open it without a key?
I have never done that non-destructively on this type of bike.
will the 07 slip on fit on my 06? I hear slip ons are compatible but I did not know if it was true. on the website, they look very similar with no differences
I don't believe that will fit but Toce makes a 05-06 specific one
So i saw in another video,the Toce exhaust has two on each side in the rear. Do you know anything about that type of Toce Exhaust?
I think it was for an R1 but do they make those for Cbr600rr or Cbr1000cc?
+Shamell Rose the quad canister system is only available for select models like 04-06/07-08/09-14 R1, and Ducati 848/1098/1198. The quad is not available for the 600RR or the 1000RR
TSTindustries ohhhh okay. Tha nks!
So could you buy both and use the pipe from the CBR model and the quad cans from the R1 system?
available for the 2004 CBR 600rr??
Sorry bud...not for 2003-2006
Hey! Can you tell me what is the diameter of one pipe?
I'm interested in the mid-pipe only. I checked your website but there's only a stainless steel pipe that doesnt look anywhere as nice as the mid-pipes shown in this video. Can I buy these mid-pipes separately?
Unfortunately we do not sell the midpipes separately. You can opt for a black coated, or a brushed raw stainless midpipe, but it does have to come with the canister.
俺のは2005年式だけど、凄くタメになる動画でした。
Thank You
Do you need the stock exhaust gasket where the headers meet the pipe? Or do you just attach the pipe to the headers directly?
Midpipe attaches directly to the header with no gasket
I thought the older CBR had a crush gasket on the header to midpipe connection. Was the original one re-used in this video? or is there not one on this bike?
+cynistersix The OEM exhaust comes off with the gasket. The Toce midpipe slips right onto the header pipe and fastens down with a clamp without the use of a gasket. This is very common in aftermarket exhausts.
+TSTindustries Cool. Ordered.
Correct me if I’m wrong but is there supposed to be a clamp or something to help seal the toce canister to the mid pipe. It looked like you just twisted it in.
Most racing canisters are mounted on the midpipe via slip fit and held on by springs. Please see how this works on this particular exhaust at time stamp 14:45
TSTindustries ok yea I seen the springs installed I just didn’t think that was it. I was expecting a clamp like the one on the other end of the mid pipe connecting to the end of the headers. But I’m no expert on exhausts or riding I’d say I’m still considered a squid but maybe squid level 2 lol since I only have one season of riding under my belt so far. I really want an exhaust but I’m still trying to justify spending 600. Can we at least both agree that the mark up on the toce exhaust is a little out of hand. I mean 600 geez. I’ll probably end up being a sucker and buying one anyway but gawd damn. I could buy a car for that price.
We actually don't have much control over the pricing of the exhaust itself. The factory sets a "minimum advertised price" that we are contractually bound to. We can charge more but cannot charge less. We do have some product packages that include the exhausts along with some of our other parts where we discount our parts to make the whole package a great deal. Maybe that would appeal to you.
were buy turbo hand? 5:01
get Bart a plane ticket and he will show up to do the installation with his turbo hand ;)
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@@TSTindustries LOL
I purchase this exhaust today. Do I need to remove the heat shield when I install it ? I would rather keep it on
+Double N Benn The heat shield will have to be removed when you are installing the exhaust, but it can be re-installed afterwards if you'd like. We decided to leave it off due to personal preference, so it's all up to you.
+TSTindustries I'm referring to the undertail heat shield. I'm concerned about heat for a passenger. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about, I'm just being overly cautious
+Double N Benn If you are only installing the exhaust then that heat shield can stay in place. However, If you plan to install one of our integrated tail lights in the future then it will have to be removed. If you modify your heat shield in a way that it will not spill the heat collected from the exhaust directly onto the taillight, then you can reinstall the heatshield. We have been doing these installs since 2007 and most of the owners want the heat shield out. They never report any adverse heat accumulation after the heat shield removal.
+TSTindustries Installed Toce exhaust last night. To help anyone who is trying to keep the under tail heat shield. The holes where the exhaust brackets go through must be widened with a pair of snips (it's no big deal), and then this exhaust fits like a glove. When I fired her up for the first time it sounded amazing, 10x better than any video. You have to hear this exhaust in person. 2008 CBR600RR
I want this exhaust and the intergraded tail light and the flush mount turn signals and the fender eliminator kit . I'm in Orlando can I pick this up same day so that way I don't have to pay for shipping ?
Yes we can accommodate that. Please contact our staff through the support tab on our site or call th office. The guys will set that up for you
I'm in Gainesville I just ordered this can I just pick it up if u r in orlando
Don't you need some kind of putty sealant to properly seal the down pipe onto the bike?
+gibbos gibbo That is not an industry standard solution. If you look at most of the slipon exhausts available on the market they all make pipe to pipe connection. When you turn on your bike the exhaust piping expands quickly with the heat and the connection is sealed really nicely. If you look at full exhausts they are all held together by springs and that works well.
Where do I buy the tools you guys use??
Any local hardware store like Lowe's or Home Depot should have most, if not all, of the tools we use.
TSTindustries sorry for bothering but do you have the name of the tools like that ratchet you guys use??
The ratchet is a Husky Rotator Ratchet. I'm not sure if Husky still sells them but other companies such as Craftsman and Stanley may offer similar products. A spring puller, a scredriver/flat head, a set of Allen keys, a wrench set, and standard socket set for the ratchet are all that is needed for this installation.
TSTindustries thanks you so much love your guys work keep it up !!!!
So does it not have a tail light?
+TaylorTallent This bike was outfitted with an Integrated tail light afterwards. The installation of that product can be viewed here:
th-cam.com/video/mAXPunV_UxU/w-d-xo.html
+TSTindustries This is alot of work I think but I am only a 10 year old and never really do this kind of stuff. My dad used to have a yamha fzr6 before I was born he always tells me about it because I always ask about it. Now he has a kawasaki 250 with a musari exhaust. putting it on wasn't to hard I helped him with it. When im of age I plan on getting a Cbr600RR and getting a toce exhaust. anyway though great video.
I wish this Toce T slash undertail exhaust was bit less loud. I think it makes noise around 106 decibels . Is there any way to reduce 20 decibels more??
Miles Jr th-cam.com/video/CMCIHTG-n_U/w-d-xo.html
yeah I've already saw this video, Toce exhaust makes 106 decibels at max RPM , I'm telling if I can get any special baffles for the Toce T slash exhaust to make the sound under 95 decibels
I just bought this toce exhaust for my 2006 honda cbr1000rr. Do you have a clip showing how to install it? Greatly appreciate
We do not have that video just yet, but the installation is very similar to the procedure on the 600.
Can you install it parallel to the bike? I love this exhaust but hate how it angles down.
Our exhaust mounting kit included with this exhaust affords some adjustability but you can't get it parallel. This is on purpose. This preps the bike for the proper amount of spacing for use with our in-tail tail lights.
If baffles are pulled out from that exhaust does it hurt the bike in any kind of way ???
Removing the baffles from the exhaust will not cause any harm to your bike.
My sleeve won’t budge how should I get it in? Should I sand the pipe or add a lubricant?
try lubricating it and fitting it off the bike a couple times. Then perform the assembly on the bike. If you use lithium grease it doesn't smoke much, and it burns off quickly
hey guys .. what do u think about the cat eliminator from ebay for 120dlls is worth it??
We haven't tested that part but because of how the stock header is made I am assuming that there is cutting of headers involved in the installation.
would this process be the same for a 2021 cbr600rr?
We have a separate video on a 13+ model. That will be the most comprehensive guide for you
i just tried installing it on my 07 cbr600rr but above the heat shield shown in the video there is another shield above it. I wasn't able to fully take it off because on the top part it was connected by rubber piece sticking down and I couldn't figure out how to remove it. Any tips or idea how to get rid of it?
The bike in the video is a 2007. Our video portrayed the installation from full stock setup so I don't know what part you are describing. Please call in to our support line. Our guys will gladly help you once they get some more information.
that chop with the wrist tho 😂😂
whaaa?
Would you guys happen to know where to buy the mounts that attach to the toce exhausts? I am talking about the round mounts that are already existing in the subframe which you use to slide the bolts through to attach the lowering links that are on the exhaust. I only had one on my bike so I could only attach one link to the bike.
+2WheeledT Those are OEM components. I recommend MrCycles.com . They have good prices and an easy part selector with microfische
Why do you guys cut the part where you struggle to take the heat shield cowl off those moments are the most important part of how-to’s
I don't know what you are asking about.
About to get the hyper pack for my CBR, i heard there is a computer update that has to happen for the exhaust, is that true? If so, how do I go about getting it done?
+shawnk82 The Toce slipon exhaust does not require a computer update. If you want to get maximum gains from installing an exhaust (and any other upgrades that increase air flow through the motor), then you will want to do a piggyback fuel computer or ECU reflash with a reputable dyno facility providing the tune. If you are doing things step by step you can wait on the tune and just do the exhaust for now. You will not have any problems with this setup.
Does the same exhaust fit on 600rr 03-04? If doesn't, is it possible to install on it? Thanks.
Nope. The 03-04 model is the stepchild. I have never done it but technically anything is possible with knowhow and tools. You would have to rework the midpipe. That means cutting, welding, and pro ably splicing sections of tube
I love it!!
Is there a video for installing on the side of the bike?
Tito Rodriguez I don't know what you're asking about. The Toce exhaust only fits in one configuration, under the tail
TSTindustries I have seen cbr 1000 with the toce exhaust on the side of the bike instead of under the seat looks sick.
The CBR1000RR has a side-exit exhaust by default from the factory but the 600RR does not. This video is for the CBR600RR.
Link to the tools used makes work alot easier
Sammie Wainaina this video was shot a while back. Nowadays we include a list of tools used
For the life of me I cannot get the exhaust onto the pipe almost like it doesn’t fit. Any ideas? Does it slide in quite a bit cause it looks like it’s going in sideways?
Try to fit the midpipe into the canister off the bike first. You can use just a small smear of non-petroleum grease to make it easier. Lithium soap grease works well and then just burns off.
TSTindustries tried that. Seems like it may be defective as the hole in the exhaust is too small to fit the mid-pipe. Tried it off the bike and used some grease and it’s just chipping the inside of the exhaust when trying to install it.
If you ordered your exhaust from us then you can contact our customer service department for help.
What happened to the heat protectors?
The upper one was removed and never reinstalled as it is not necessary with this particular exhaust.
@@TSTindustries can all the heat protectors removed be installed back on the bike after the installation?
@@sidfn1636 The lower one can be reinstalled but the upper one cannot due to a difference in mounting methods of the canister.
@@TSTindustries I’ve got a 22 600rr, so will that in your opinion damage the tail light in any way or whatsoever and if it does is there a way I can fit in the upper heat shield?
Anybody know if your bike requires a tune after installing this slip on?
No a professionail mechanic but the awsner is probably not.
The airflow will still be restricted by the CAT, It may change it slightly but not enough to need a retune. The profile on this is almost the same apart from the very end of the exhaust.
No a professionail mechanic but the awsner is probably not.
The airflow will still be restricted by the CAT, It may change it slightly but not enough to need a retune. The profile on this is almost the same apart from the very end of the exhaust.
Any horsepower problems with the Toce exhaust? I've read people lose the mid range power when they put the Toce exhaust on their bikes compared to Yoshimura or TBR. Any input on this?
Jonathan Hart I believe that people that write the things you are reading are trying to justify their choice in exhaust with unsubstantiated opinions. We actually sell Yoshimura and Arrow exhausts in addition to Toce so please don't think there is some kind of bias. Any of the exhausts you mentioned will give you a little boost in top end hp if the air/fuel ratio and ignition are tuned properly. In addition, the mid-range where the torque has more to do with what you feel on the bike when street riding can also be tuned to be increased (albeit slightly...it's a tiny motor). I recommend that you do some good reading if you really want to get details on this subject. Don't listen to me, or those guys you mentioned, but instead check out "Scientific Design of Exhaust and Intake Systems." It's a book written a long time ago by some real good engineers. Most of the engineering principles in that book apply to modern sportbikes. I think that can help you more that I can, or the guys on forums, Facebook, and local parking lot pimps.
Thank you for the reply! I definitely agree and was just wondering all of your opinions because I had no clue if what I read was true.
www.600rr.net/vb/18-exhaust-fuel-delivery/406969-all-existing-toce-owners-others-reservations-getting-exhaust.html
This is what I read and all about it. No clue if it's true. Do you recommend a power commander 5 and good intake if you get a slip on exhaust? i'm getting a CBR600RR soon that has a yoshimura exhaust, but I want the Toce for the sound of it because it's got a low end growl that is just great. Thank you again for the reply.
Jonathan Hart yea...I gave that a quick read... nothing is more accurate than a wrist Dyno, especially riding g on the street ;). I recommend you get your bike, have some fun riding on it the way it comes, and then if you are so inclined do the following mods:
1. keep Yosh or go with exhaust of your choice
2. Replace stock air filter with a better flowing unit like BMC, K&N, MWR
3. Install PC V or a flash tune utility like Woolwich (I side with flashing because you have access to way more than with a piggyback for a better value) [ www.woolichracing.com/products/honda/honda-ecu-flashing.aspx#productTable]
4. Most Important: get a proper Dyno tune by someone that tunes race bikes. If you are in USA we can recommend someone. There will be a trade-off between top end hp and mid range torque so you will need to explain to that tuner what you need and then they will get as close as possible to that setup.
I hope this helps, but again, you are taking my personal suggestions. I still recommend that you read up from authoritative sources before you make your decision. Ride safe brother...
Bart
If I get this exhaust do I need a power commander as well ?
Not absolutely necessary for safety of the motor but you will not take advantage of any big performance gains until your bike is properly tuned on a dynamometer. I actually recommend Woolich ECU tuning as opposed to a piggyback fuel computer.
the plastics dont have any kind of issues due to exhaust heat?
No problems whatsoever.
what is that ratcheting wrench called and where do u get it from?
+Gongdeadman Please see the comments in the 2009-2014 R1 Fender Eliminator video. I explain where to get that ratchet handle there.
+Gongdeadman th-cam.com/video/XuINJKJLv3g/w-d-xo.html
What looks better, satin of powder coated black?
That's a question with a very subjective answer. We make more money on the black pipe, but I personally like the satin stainless one better. On our bikes we always run the satin. Ask that question to a broader audience and you will likely get many different answers.
How would this exhaust sound when paired with arrow stainless steel headers?@@TSTindustries
Back when we sold the Arrow headers on our site guys would often purchase that combo and report really good sound and performance gains after a proper tune.
Is the baffle removable? if yes its louder with out the baffle right?
Yes the baffle can be removed from this exhaust and it does get louder with the baffle removed.
are they plug and play with out the need of tuning?
+iT's Classified CBR dyno tuning will get you some better results if that is what you are after. As with any slipon, if you install the exhaust and not tune the bike it won't harm anything, you just won't get maximum gains from the setup.
+TSTindustries all in after us the louder sound of the exhaust... Thanks for the info
+iT's Classified CBR sure thing...you're welcome
What year model is that bike? 2012?
2007
@@TSTindustries thanks 🙂
Power tools existed when this video came out right?
Not everyone has power tools and we like to showcase that it’s possible to perform these installations with everyday garage tools.
how much hotter does it feel without the heat shield...
+Luis Castillo Depends on whether you are parking lot pimpin or riding. When riding the difference is not noticeable.
+TSTindustries strangely i decided to keep my heat shield though i installed a cat-delete midpipe and getting rid of the cats help reduce some heat (thats my understanding)
TOCE 💪👍🔥
where can i buy toce
If we did a great job showing you precisely the steps involved in the installation then I would think that you would purchase from our store at TSTindustries.com
would this fit on a 2004-07 1000rr?
the exhaust that it's video is about will not fit an 04-07 1000RR, but there is good news. The model that will fit that 1000RR will be released soon. Please check back on our website from time to time. We are supposed to have it available in a couple weeks time.
+TSTindustries awesome. thanks
I saw a 04-07 t-slash video on toce's instagram, they said if you wanted to order, contact them because it's not on the website yet! I think they're available
+TSTindustries, I have a 2006 CBR1000RR and I'm also looking to purchase the Toce exhaust for it like Maurice. Please let me know when it's available to order!! Thanks!
+FirebladePilot _ you should contact toce directly and see :p
Is this pretty similar with the 06 cbr600rr?
Ryan Hornick yeah, the subframe, mounting points, and heat shields are a bit different but the methodology is essentially the same
Awesome, thank you very much. Installing today. Your customer service is great. Much appreciated.
Would a 2007 exhaust fit on a 2005-6 cbr
Toce has a 05-06 specific one
boss can we fit under seat exhaust on yamaha fzv2.0
Just buy a better bike
It’ll cost you more to do that to your shitty bike
Do you still have this available?
Yes.
@@TSTindustries okay I’ll be ordering one but for a 07 1000rr and with the integrated tail lights . Is a Relay necessary?
@@JoyceSimba when you replace your oem signals with LEDs the stock signaling system sees a low current draw during signaling. That will cause a fast flash. If you want your signaling system to operate at the oem 85 cycles per minute rate then you will need to deplace your relay with an LED specific one like our RLYG2, or wire in resistors to add to the current draw across your oem relay.
@@TSTindustries okay I’ll get that too then. But 1 more question Is it possible to have the sequential turn signals with the integrated tail lights on the 1000rr. I’m willing to pay more if it’s possible
@@JoyceSimba I am sorry to tell you that the 2004-2007 1000RR tail light is a very old model tail light for us and we never made them with the sequential signals.
Where can I order those tools?
We used all pretty standard tools. Which specific ones do you want to know about?
I've noticed in most of your videos you are not using the two spring on the end canister. The springs are in the way of my tag and I don't really like how they look anyway. I figure, since end is pushed on tight and bolted up, it is pretty impossible for the center pipe to become loose or come apart. What you think? Is it safe to run with no springs on the Toce exhaust?
I have run this bike around the track pretty hard with no springs. I never had a problem. I think it is up to you to decide if you want to run the springs. I don't think they have any influence over the canister/midpipe connection since the canister is screwed into the frame.
What torque wrench are you using I want one hahaha
Are you asking about the ratchet? I don't remember using a torque wrench in this video. The ratchet I used was from Husky but they made it under license from another company. Nowadays you can only get that tool from Stanley, and it is called the Rotator.
Got one for the 2003 CBR600RR?
+YamaDogah92 Sorry, there is no 03-06 model available
That too bad. Sound sick.
Same for the 2018?
Pretty much. We do have a dedicated video here: th-cam.com/video/2bBdRjg27cc/w-d-xo.html
How much are these worth?
what do you mean how much they are worth? As in what they cost? Follow the link in the description to the product page and you will be presented with the current price.
@@TSTindustries thank you brotha
@@cjfromsanandreas9217 you're welcome
What kind of dB level are you looking at with the baffles out?
We don't take the baffles out so we never measured that output. These bikes don't sound good with straight pipes.
So this will not fit on an 06? damn
unfortunately not without substantial modifications.
No instalo el protector del escape te quema ala vena
Dani Alves Mechanic??
What are you trying to say?
If I can get a discount I'll pay for the slip on version. Please get back to me if that's possible thank you
You can discuss this with our customer support staff if you message them through our website.
Kereeen honda
who makes that ratchet
Nowadays you can only get it from Stanley tools
this fucking damn bike if you are youtuber we want to hear a sound damb
We have four other videos with the sound in them, two of which are dedicated only to the sound
th-cam.com/video/CMCIHTG-n_U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/crkVIU3Qrmg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/7MrwYTgAPaY/w-d-xo.html
4+5
equals nine
Just got mine installed this weekend. Thanks for the awesome product and installation video TST Industries.
Sound clip: th-cam.com/video/nFaPnWOvpkQ/w-d-xo.html
+32BitWhore You're very welcome. Thank you for posting your video in response.
+TSTindustries Keep up the awesome work guys. Companies like yours are one of the reasons I'm glad I ride.
i just got one thing to say.....look at those chicken strips😂
what do you mean exactly?