It doesn’t have to. There are plenty of budget options out there. Also, check out deals in previous model tents/sleeping bags/down jackets/tents/ etc. it’s amazing the prices you can get when new products are introduced
Oh it’s a big issue. They know they got people though. Because it’s literally life or death (sometimes) so your gonna pay 4-600 dollars for a tent to make sure you and your loved ones don’t suffer
You were the first channel that really featured Paria products when I was looking at colder weather gear for those on a budget, and I really appreciated it! Have their sleeping pads, a tent, and a couple quilts from them and am really happy with their products AND their customer service.
Yes! I think many of us watch the reviews of high end gear and think "yeah, if only. Maybe someday" and then carry our budget-friendlier gear again on our next trip. I bought the Zion 1p this summer and couldn't be happier with the quality and weight. More content like this please!
Absolutely love this video! Showing off some affordable (but not cheaply made) products is what originally got me subscribed to your channel years ago. I bought my son a Paria sleeping bag based on your recommendation years ago, and it's still serving him well. I've wondered about Featherstone products for a while now, so thank for sharing...giving that thing some consideration for my 1st trekking pole tent.
So excited to finally see the Paria Zion on video! We have the 3 person (i and my husband both use extra wide pads) and split the 5.5 pounds, giving us each a tent weight of less than 3# for a huge bargain! The tent is so well thought out and so so easy to set up... the pole structure is genius. You can leave the ground cover home if conditions are right. Paria is great to work with- offered to send extra tent stakes when we used more than provided. Smallish vestibules, but fine for shoes and trekking poles (I use my pack cover for extra coverage in rainy weather). Bought it as a starter tent- may not ever upgrade!
Featherstone definitely needs more PR! They're a great company with quality products. I haven't used any of their tents, but the moondance quilt is an amazing product
I've been impressed with the two tents I've been using from them. The Granite 2P has handled some pretty intense storms this year. I am looking to try the Moondance quilt here soon as well. I have essentially stopped using quilts all together, but gonna give it a shot.
bought the Featherstone two person tent last year because I was tired of carrying so much weight and can’t afford to very expensive temps so this was a literary compromise turned out to be a fantastic buy plenty of room not sure the waterproof yet but they say it is, but I haven’t tested that medication quality seems to be very lightweight. I love it. Thanks for doing a video
Toward the end of the summer I bought the Granite 2P tent from Featherstone. Took it camping with my kids and we got hit hard with rain and the tent performed incredibly well. No leaks and plenty strong. Check out that video if you haven’t.
that’s very good news that’s the same situation with me. I have a five-year-old. I’m introducing to the woods with one on several backpacking trips last year spent a few nights in the woods wasn’t able to really test it out with the weather so I’m glad to hear that it’s waterproof. The tenant self is outstanding great for a adult and a small child for sure. No problem at all it’s like a palace, by the way, I’m a new subscriber like your show man you’re doing a great job. Keep it up. Yeah we bought the Featherstone two person tracking pole tent is the one that I have. I love it.
I love Paria Outdoors. I absolutely love them for entry level gear and budget minded backpackers. My Bryce 2p has been going strong for 7 years and their customer service is amazing. My experience with them and their products have been excellent. I own many of their other products which are excellent as well. I love their pillow when combined with a simple blowup pillow that nestles in the paria’s pillow sleeve. It weighs as much as many backpacking pillows but is very comfortable.
I'm a really big fan of Paria. I use the Bryce 1P on a lot of trips where I want to use a semi freestanding tent. Their customer service is fantastic and really do live up to their warranties. I like the look of the Featherstone tents but the fact the foot end of the 1P and 2P tents taper so much, I won't get one. The Paria Arches 2P trekking pole tent is a great option at less than 3lbs and $159. With a floor width of 53 inches, it's a true two person tent.
Yeah the taper on the 1P backbone is far more pronounced of a potential issue than the 2P is for me. I’d be likely to only use the 2P for two when it’s me and one of my kids, who would be on a 20" pad anyway. Yes, the arches is also a great option!
Nice review I am very happy with the Lanshan 2 Reliable and light weight Lots of mods online that makes it a good tent in poorer conditions And the price is right Also summer and winter inners, which makes one tent very versatile
Nice comparison of some budget tents! Did I spot the new UGQ pillow/quilt there?! Man you're on it! These are tough sells for me. But Paria does have some decent cheaper options 👍
Wanting to love these options but for another 8 oz over the Paria, have my REI Passage 2 that is 54” wide, taller, thunderstorm-proven by me & nearly indestructible so far from the 2 dogs I travel with. 2 doors & vestibules too, fool-proof 2-pole design. I like a 2-straight pole’s flexibility, as an engineer. Was about $125 on sale 4 yrs ago, but inflation happens ya know. Until I go on longer-than a weekend backpack trips in the near future, can’t justify a Paria 1-P yet. Loved the detailed reviews tho but as a Southern & midwestern camper, storm proofness wins out over all else at this time. Like to go thru a 2-inch sudden rain & still stay dry. Newer Passage 2 is a slightly different design.
Yes, I've used the 2P and 3P tents from them. I've got a first look type video on the 2P back through my videos. I like what it is. There's several detail points that are well considered. I think it's worth checking out for sure.
Honestly, either. It really just comes down to whether you want front entry and one door of the Bryce or two doors and side entry of the Zion. Most people prefer side entry and two doors.
Thank you for the additional options. I've seen the Paria but not the Featherstone. Both look like great items that are wallet freindly. Have you had experience with the Featherstone quilts? I just picked up the EMBR...can't wait for it to come in...hopefully before Christmas! 😁
Ah awesome! Enjoy the EMBR! That’s a great pack. Have not yet used the Moondance quilt, but do have one on enroute. Have had several people ask to see it reviewed.
I bought a Moondance 25 quilt. I wanted to try a quilt without breaking the bank. I find it to be of good quality and much more comfortable than a Mummy bag. I used it down to 28 degrees on a Thermarest Xtherm pad. I slept in my Ghost Whisperer puffy and I was warm.
@@Ray_Here Nice to hear. I recently picked up the EE Enigma 0 for winter. I wanted to try a quilt because I am a side sleeper who moves around a lot and I sometimes find my mummy bags a little constricting at times. I have the Nemo Sonic, which is great, and its spoon design gives me the additional wiggle room I need.
That EE should be a great quilt. I’m a side sleeper as well. I like to winter camp so I may combine the Moondance with a homemade Costco quilt and see how far down i can take it. Love winter camping. No bugs and no crowds!
Great review. Do you have any opinions on The Bryce 1 Paria tent compared to the Zion 1P? Trying to decide which one to buy -they are the same price. Thanks.
Both are awesome! If you don't mind the front entry of the Bryce, then it's a really good option for one. The Zion having two doors and vestibules is nice and is side entry, which more people prefer.
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for your thoughts. I also like the side entry on the Zion. I noticed it is 2 inches shorter than the Bryce tho. As I am 6'3 that may be a diffference maker. Thanks again.
Vestibules serve many purposes. Mostly they keep weather away from the doors of the tent. Some people may cook in the vestibule in bad weather. I usually only put my shoes in my tent in the desert. Have woke up too many times with scorpions inside or under my shoes overnight.
Thanks for sharing budget options. The designs are cookie cutter but are proven, solid designs. The Zion looks like the MSR Hubba Hubba which NatureHike copied with the Mongar, but the Zion 1P is unique for a 1P for having 2 doors. Nice there's another budget alternative to NatureHike or 3FUL. I hope their customer support is decent.
Would you rather one of these over the 3FUL 2 person tents? The Lanshan or Lanshan Pro? I’m on a college budget since I went back to finish a degree and have to watch my pennies😂
The Lanshan is a proven, great tent option. The 2 person pro would be a solid choice and would work out well for many years. The pro isn't seam sealed, so you'll need to do that on your own. Im not sure the weight difference off hand between the Backbone and Lanshan, but the Backbone is going to have a little more space to move around with how tall the peak is.
Yes, metric would be great. In the UK we do use the height of people in feet and inches. Our roads are measured in miles but we do mix it up at little. It’s a bit of an odd one that even we don’t really get at times either tbh. Yards become metres and inches become centimetres all within a conversation. Then there’s stones that become Kg within a sentence!
I dont get ultra light... can people not carry 35lbs for 3 days? my only complaint on FeatherStone... better floor, add a few ounces for reliability, I have to now pack a footprint?.. its thin... outside of that & adding 1 1/4" to the bottom mesh panel extending it for airflow (southeast) its a good tent! Plus I have a dog, I need a tough floor.....
I love Paria gear, great quality affordable stuff but Nylon tents suck, they absorb moisture and stretch when wet making them a floppy mess in a storm. I have sworn off any nylon tent after having owned quite a few of them.
Yes Paria is amazing. I disagree with you though. Nylon is a great fabric. Yes it will stretch, but you could find fault in nearly any fabric used for a tent. Dyneema is too expensive for most people, and can suffer from durability, not to mention it also shrinks over time. Which can affect the performance down the road. Polyester is great, but typically heavier than nylon and can be more bulky. There is no perfect fabric.
This is a loaded series of questions. Yes, I support America and American jobs. Buying a tent from either of these brands supports American jobs. Even USA made products in many many cases will trace back to some aspect of the product being manufactured overseas (China, Vietnam, etc). Nearly all zippers, plastic buckles, and fabrics are manufactured overseas. Getting a 100% made in America product is nearly impossible to achieve.
I really appreciate this. One of the problems I see with outdoor gear is that equipment is so expensive it prices people out of the hobby.
Glad you found it helpful. I have another budget focused video coming soon that is still great quality gear but decently priced.
It doesn’t have to. There are plenty of budget options out there. Also, check out deals in previous model tents/sleeping bags/down jackets/tents/ etc. it’s amazing the prices you can get when new products are introduced
Oh it’s a big issue. They know they got people though. Because it’s literally life or death (sometimes) so your gonna pay 4-600 dollars for a tent to make sure you and your loved ones don’t suffer
the Lanshan is a good price. for a good tent. If you are not thru hiking ect.
You were the first channel that really featured Paria products when I was looking at colder weather gear for those on a budget, and I really appreciated it! Have their sleeping pads, a tent, and a couple quilts from them and am really happy with their products AND their customer service.
Really appreciate that! Thanks for watching the channel all those years. Glad the gear has worked out well for you.
Yes! I think many of us watch the reviews of high end gear and think "yeah, if only. Maybe someday" and then carry our budget-friendlier gear again on our next trip. I bought the Zion 1p this summer and couldn't be happier with the quality and weight. More content like this please!
Stoked you enjoyed it. Yes, I am working on more content like this. :)
Absolutely love this video! Showing off some affordable (but not cheaply made) products is what originally got me subscribed to your channel years ago. I bought my son a Paria sleeping bag based on your recommendation years ago, and it's still serving him well. I've wondered about Featherstone products for a while now, so thank for sharing...giving that thing some consideration for my 1st trekking pole tent.
So excited to finally see the Paria Zion on video! We have the 3 person (i and my husband both use extra wide pads) and split the 5.5 pounds, giving us each a tent weight of less than 3# for a huge bargain! The tent is so well thought out and so so easy to set up... the pole structure is genius. You can leave the ground cover home if conditions are right. Paria is great to work with- offered to send extra tent stakes when we used more than provided. Smallish vestibules, but fine for shoes and trekking poles (I use my pack cover for extra coverage in rainy weather). Bought it as a starter tent- may not ever upgrade!
I'd like to get the 3 person as well to use with my kids. Great stuff!
Featherstone definitely needs more PR! They're a great company with quality products. I haven't used any of their tents, but the moondance quilt is an amazing product
I've been impressed with the two tents I've been using from them. The Granite 2P has handled some pretty intense storms this year.
I am looking to try the Moondance quilt here soon as well. I have essentially stopped using quilts all together, but gonna give it a shot.
bought the Featherstone two person tent last year because I was tired of carrying so much weight and can’t afford to very expensive temps so this was a literary compromise turned out to be a fantastic buy plenty of room not sure the waterproof yet but they say it is, but I haven’t tested that medication quality seems to be very lightweight. I love it. Thanks for doing a video
Toward the end of the summer I bought the Granite 2P tent from Featherstone. Took it camping with my kids and we got hit hard with rain and the tent performed incredibly well. No leaks and plenty strong. Check out that video if you haven’t.
that’s very good news that’s the same situation with me. I have a five-year-old. I’m introducing to the woods with one on several backpacking trips last year spent a few nights in the woods wasn’t able to really test it out with the weather so I’m glad to hear that it’s waterproof. The tenant self is outstanding great for a adult and a small child for sure. No problem at all it’s like a palace, by the way, I’m a new subscriber like your show man you’re doing a great job. Keep it up. Yeah we bought the Featherstone two person tracking pole tent is the one that I have. I love it.
I love Paria Outdoors. I absolutely love them for entry level gear and budget minded backpackers. My Bryce 2p has been going strong for 7 years and their customer service is amazing.
My experience with them and their products have been excellent. I own many of their other products which are excellent as well.
I love their pillow when combined with a simple blowup pillow that nestles in the paria’s pillow sleeve. It weighs as much as many backpacking pillows but is very comfortable.
Ah the Bryce is such a great tent!
I'm a really big fan of Paria. I use the Bryce 1P on a lot of trips where I want to use a semi freestanding tent. Their customer service is fantastic and really do live up to their warranties. I like the look of the Featherstone tents but the fact the foot end of the 1P and 2P tents taper so much, I won't get one. The Paria Arches 2P trekking pole tent is a great option at less than 3lbs and $159. With a floor width of 53 inches, it's a true two person tent.
Yeah the taper on the 1P backbone is far more pronounced of a potential issue than the 2P is for me. I’d be likely to only use the 2P for two when it’s me and one of my kids, who would be on a 20" pad anyway.
Yes, the arches is also a great option!
Nice reviews! These prices and the level of quality on these products could entice more day hikers to make a night of it in upcoming seasons.
For sure!
In my minds eye, I see me and a backbone tent set up amongst the juniper in the Mojave National Preserve.
Nice review
I am very happy with the Lanshan 2
Reliable and light weight
Lots of mods online that makes it a good tent in poorer conditions
And the price is right
Also summer and winter inners, which makes one tent very versatile
I need to get a Lanshan 2 and put it to use. Maybe next year. I've only used the original Lanshan 1.
Nice comparison of some budget tents! Did I spot the new UGQ pillow/quilt there?! Man you're on it! These are tough sells for me. But Paria does have some decent cheaper options 👍
Ah yeah the Quillow getting some love.
Thank you for showing some affordable options.
For me it would depend on the camping collation and weather (wind).
You're welcome!
Buying the featherstone, thank you!!
Wanting to love these options but for another 8 oz over the Paria, have my REI Passage 2 that is 54” wide, taller, thunderstorm-proven by me & nearly indestructible so far from the 2 dogs I travel with. 2 doors & vestibules too, fool-proof 2-pole design. I like a 2-straight pole’s flexibility, as an engineer. Was about $125 on sale 4 yrs ago, but inflation happens ya know. Until I go on longer-than a weekend backpack trips in the near future, can’t justify a Paria 1-P yet. Loved the detailed reviews tho but as a Southern & midwestern camper, storm proofness wins out over all else at this time. Like to go thru a 2-inch sudden rain & still stay dry. Newer Passage 2 is a slightly different design.
been looking at the featherstone tent for a bit for a me and doggo weekend adventure tent but hadn't had the chance to see it closely. thanks!
You’re welcome. It’d be a nice option for that use for sure.
Have you looked at the Ampex 1P or 2P tents? 1P is $99 and looks really nice for a budget option. Looks to be similar to REI Quarter Dome.
Yes, I've used the 2P and 3P tents from them. I've got a first look type video on the 2P back through my videos. I like what it is. There's several detail points that are well considered. I think it's worth checking out for sure.
@@BackcountryExposure oh I’ll look that video up.
I’m curious to know how the 1p backbone tent compares?
I’m curious about that too. I’m gonna be getting one to check it out and hopefully share a comparison on.
Would the Zion or Bryce be better for regular camping?
Honestly, either. It really just comes down to whether you want front entry and one door of the Bryce or two doors and side entry of the Zion. Most people prefer side entry and two doors.
Informative. I wish someone would review the Six Moon Designs Lunar Duo. IT WILL FIT TWO 50" PADS. Reasonably priced too.
I’ll look into it
Thank you for the additional options. I've seen the Paria but not the Featherstone. Both look like great items that are wallet freindly. Have you had experience with the Featherstone quilts?
I just picked up the EMBR...can't wait for it to come in...hopefully before Christmas! 😁
Ah awesome! Enjoy the EMBR! That’s a great pack.
Have not yet used the Moondance quilt, but do have one on enroute. Have had several people ask to see it reviewed.
I bought a Moondance 25 quilt. I wanted to try a quilt without breaking the bank. I find it to be of good quality and much more comfortable than a Mummy bag. I used it down to 28 degrees on a Thermarest Xtherm pad. I slept in my Ghost Whisperer puffy and I was warm.
@@BackcountryExposure Looking forward to it!
@@Ray_Here Nice to hear. I recently picked up the EE Enigma 0 for winter. I wanted to try a quilt because I am a side sleeper who moves around a lot and I sometimes find my mummy bags a little constricting at times. I have the Nemo Sonic, which is great, and its spoon design gives me the additional wiggle room I need.
That EE should be a great quilt. I’m a side sleeper as well. I like to winter camp so I may combine the Moondance with a homemade Costco quilt and see how far down i can take it. Love winter camping. No bugs and no crowds!
Great review. Do you have any opinions on The Bryce 1 Paria tent compared to the Zion 1P? Trying to decide which one to buy -they are the same price. Thanks.
Both are awesome! If you don't mind the front entry of the Bryce, then it's a really good option for one. The Zion having two doors and vestibules is nice and is side entry, which more people prefer.
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for your thoughts. I also like the side entry on the Zion. I noticed it is 2 inches shorter than the Bryce tho. As I am 6'3 that may be a diffference maker. Thanks again.
Great video devin thank you!!!!
Thanks!
Why those tents instead of the Lanshan 2 trekking pole tent?
Cause they are the two tents I chose to test and check out. Lanshan is also a great option. 🤷🏻♂️
What's the purpose of those vestibules if people bring their shoes and backpack into the tent?
Vestibules serve many purposes. Mostly they keep weather away from the doors of the tent. Some people may cook in the vestibule in bad weather. I usually only put my shoes in my tent in the desert. Have woke up too many times with scorpions inside or under my shoes overnight.
Thanks for sharing budget options. The designs are cookie cutter but are proven, solid designs. The Zion looks like the MSR Hubba Hubba which NatureHike copied with the Mongar, but the Zion 1P is unique for a 1P for having 2 doors. Nice there's another budget alternative to NatureHike or 3FUL. I hope their customer support is decent.
Have always enjoyed the Paria products I’ve used over the years.
The Featherstone Backbone looks like the ZPacks Offset Duo.
Or the Offset Duo looks like the Backbone. Neither are 100% unique designs.
Would you rather one of these over the 3FUL 2 person tents? The Lanshan or Lanshan Pro? I’m on a college budget since I went back to finish a degree and have to watch my pennies😂
I’ll sell you a brand new lanshan pro cheap. Anyone else interested just reply to this comment. Never taken out of the original packaging
The Lanshan is a proven, great tent option. The 2 person pro would be a solid choice and would work out well for many years. The pro isn't seam sealed, so you'll need to do that on your own. Im not sure the weight difference off hand between the Backbone and Lanshan, but the Backbone is going to have a little more space to move around with how tall the peak is.
I'd go with the Paria Arches 2p. It's 53" wide so it will fit two 25" pads. This is why I picked it over the Backbone or Lanshan.
Featherstone Backbone is remarkably similar to ZPack's Offset Duo - and $500(!!) less!!
Hey Devin - please add Metric measurements (cm and grams) to your reviews, even if just as part of the on-screen text! Thanks from Australia
Thanks for the reminder. I’m typically good about making sure I add it for weights, but forget when I’m talking about dimensions.
Yes, metric would be great. In the UK we do use the height of people in feet and inches. Our roads are measured in miles but we do mix it up at little. It’s a bit of an odd one that even we don’t really get at times either tbh. Yards become metres and inches become centimetres all within a conversation. Then there’s stones that become Kg within a sentence!
I dont get ultra light... can people not carry 35lbs for 3 days? my only complaint on FeatherStone... better floor, add a few ounces for reliability, I have to now pack a footprint?.. its thin... outside of that & adding 1 1/4" to the bottom mesh panel extending it for airflow (southeast) its a good tent! Plus I have a dog, I need a tough floor.....
I love Paria gear, great quality affordable stuff but Nylon tents suck, they absorb moisture and stretch when wet making them a floppy mess in a storm. I have sworn off any nylon tent after having owned quite a few of them.
Yes Paria is amazing.
I disagree with you though. Nylon is a great fabric. Yes it will stretch, but you could find fault in nearly any fabric used for a tent. Dyneema is too expensive for most people, and can suffer from durability, not to mention it also shrinks over time. Which can affect the performance down the road. Polyester is great, but typically heavier than nylon and can be more bulky.
There is no perfect fabric.
Durston?
Durston isn't under $200, which was the point of the video, under $200.
Why cant these tent manufacturers make tents that are not butt ass ugly in color? Tents should be of a natural color found in nature!
Are any of these products made in America? Do you support America? We won American products. What are you doing Chinese?
This is a loaded series of questions. Yes, I support America and American jobs. Buying a tent from either of these brands supports American jobs.
Even USA made products in many many cases will trace back to some aspect of the product being manufactured overseas (China, Vietnam, etc). Nearly all zippers, plastic buckles, and fabrics are manufactured overseas. Getting a 100% made in America product is nearly impossible to achieve.