If religious fairy tales, superstitions, imaginary invisible beings, and other made-up stuff can fool an educated Dr. Lennox by exploiting his emotions & gullibility, imagine what it could do to not-so-educated emotional gullible folks.
@@AtamMardes Which specific argument are you referring to? Spoiler: Everybody has a worldview and believes something. The question is: what is the evidence! E.g. how do you explain abiogenesis and consciousness?
@@immanuel829 Neither abiogenesis nor evolution needs God. The evil COVID19, influenza, malaria, etc., are DNA/RNA based. They can't be God's creation or variations of it due to imperfections bc by your definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. Since nature by itself has created those evil RNAs & DNAs, then nature by itself can create life from non-life.
My son and grandson went to this talk that John gave at ASU. It was packed and very fun to share with family. My grandson had a question that John answered near the end. It was the one that asked how do we reach his age group.
My brother who I love truly. For our young ones, need to know. That each and everyone of them are precious indeed. More precious than anything you see, touch, or smell. For all things was created just for them. Being slave from within and out. Our decisions are half and half. I'm an imperfect man. Being WHOLE is worth defining. First is by choice...being humble. Lamb and a lion from within indeed. But me and you have fallen short. Defining contentment, is like doing your best for your wife or husband. You can be perfect or WHOLE. You can still be denied. Then what? To some BECOME dismayed but to some will find it. If Jesus was denied. Obviously, me and you, can be also denied. You can be perfect to your wife or husband. How can a man and woman be truly content with great thankfulness to keep saying thank you my God.
A Ward Hardly. Lennox proposes a half model where he compares his imagines magical universe where "things are different" than they really are, to observations. The flaws are obvious to anyone that has taken any science. We don't do invalid comparison models mixed with presupposition to evidence undefined quantities. That's called dishonest process.
+A Ward his arguments don't go over peopled heads. He doesn't have an argument. He has a narrative based on his twisted logic. He begins with a conclusion that there is a god. Where does one go from there. He does not have any proof of this God only hid belief. Anyone could base an "argument" on a myth and present bucket loads of so called proof. Try arguing that the earth is just a flat disc? It's easy to back up your argument. I used to do it for a laugh 50 years ago. Have you seen the "we never went to the moon" videos? If you start with a BS concept it's so easy to pile more and more BS on top of it to present a case. Look at at Lennox body language, he's a BSer and he knows it.
Thank you for this wonderful lecture, I learn so very much from listening to these important interpretations. Something about John I am drawn to, a great speaker. I like to say that "science can be wonderfully applied in an attempt to figure out how God has created all things"
If religious fairy tales, superstitions, imaginary invisible beings, and other made-up stuff can fool an educated Dr. Lennox by exploiting his emotions & gullibility, imagine what it could do to not-so-educated emotional gullible folks.
@@AtamMardes Which specific argument are you referring to? Spoiler: Everybody has a worldview and believes something. The question is: what is the evidence! E.g. how do you explain abiogenesis and consciousness?
When it comes to the God of Origins or the god of operations(god of the gaps),NO Christian believes that lightening happens because God caused it. Anytime you explain operation in science, it has a naturalistic explanation. However, if you discuss origins, (origin of life, space, time, matter, laws etc) we explain the origins of these metaphysical operations as created by God. Before you choose to deny Jesus/God, understand what it is that you are rejecting first.
Recheck your understanding of Christian beliefs. Let me answer with a statement on the providence of God: The almighty and ever present power of God1 by which God upholds, as with his hand, heaven and earth and all creatures, and so rules them that leaf and blade, rain and drought, fruitful and lean years, food and drink, health and sickness, prosperity and poverty, all things, in fact, come to us not by chance but by his fatherly hand ( Heidelberg Catechism). The explanation of lightning, ironically, was developed by Christian scientists like Michael Faraday and James Clerk Maxwell. I don't understand why a Christian can't accept the phenomena of lightning and know that its strike was in the will of God. Learn some more Christian theology, please.
But humans indeed did once believe a god created thunder and lightning. They inserted gif because they had no other way scientifically yet to answer the question, much like Christians now when referring to the origin of the universe, another example of how religions are man made.
@@ItsSVO you can say God created the lightening - but when happens in nature it happens naturally. When I get a cup of tea, I initiated it but there is also a completely natural explanation as to why the molecules are boiling and spinning around due to the increased heat and electricity. Both explanations are valid
@@newygreek yet the difference here is evidence, you can be observed initiating the making of the tea, god however has never been observed to be responsible for the creation of lightning. God is not a valid explanation for anything without evidence, nice try though.
I like Lennox a lot, but I'm not happy that he used the misleading and PC "three Abrahamic religions". Whoever sent Jesus didn't also send Mohamed, and they are not the same God.
MrJeter693 That is indeed a way to define that phrase, but I think it connotatively indicates that Islam is legitimately in the Judeo-Christian religious trajectory (i.e. that whether or not Judaism or Christianity are or were accurate religions, Christianity was actually founded by Jews, but Islam was not founded by Jews or Christians) -- Mohamed grafted himself back on Abraham with no basis.
MrJeter693 Yes, that is technically true *if* we accept that the Arabs are the lineage of Ishmael (I don't know) but it conveys a misleading impression that I wish Lennox had simply not given.
+20july1944 I think if you were to study Islam you would see that it is indeed a belief in your God. Was it not Gabriel who visited Muhammad and was it not the same Gabriel who spoke to Mary. I'm afraid you are in denial about your God. You just doing want to belief he sent another messenger do you. Or it could be one of two other explanations. Gabriel worked for two different gods or its all bull shit.
Science only doing 2 things: 1. Doing the research about things that already been created by God. Example: Science did not created the sun, but science only doing the research everything about the sun like how far it's from earth, how hot it was, whether it has axis, what are the purposes of its light, etc etc. 2. Doing the exploitation with the sources that already been created by God. Example: Science created satelites and later they invented Internet. But science use the materials that created by God like steel and other metals to build the satelites. For TV transmission and Internet, science use the wave that already been created by God. Still, science cannot understand the metaphysic world. Science just making people understand how things works. Sure, science is good for mankind, but still we have to believe 'the super power' who created the world including created human, animal, plant, planet, wind, oxygen (for us to breathe) and even all the scientists themselve (which are human) are also created by God.
John 1:1 (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -was 'with' God. The Son was Begotten and with God before creation.
In the beginning was the Word... In the beginning there was nothing as God created everything out of nothing. If by thing we mean any concept or created animate or inanimate object, then God is nothing, no thing, then there was nothing in the beginning, since He is pure Spirit. The evidence for the Resurrection is watertight.
19 mins in. Back to the atheism is a religion lie. It's not my original come back to that but, non-stamp collecting is not a hobby. If Lennox can state it is using logic I would love to hear it. I can state that I am passionate about arguing with people who try to convince me that their belief in any form of the supernatural is true. But that's not my religion. I belong to a political party and support its aims, it's not a religion or a belief it's the outcome of my life experiences and my study of society and politics etc.
+A Ward If I follow your logic correctly and there is not a heaven then we both end at death. If there is an afterlife then are you saying it will not apply to me because I don't believe it will happen? Then logically, if I follow you right, there is only a heaven/afterlife if you believe there is. Isn't that my point entirely.
Newton lived at a time when Christianity was the norm in the western world. He was therefore a Christian. Newton, as I understand it, was attempting to discover how nature worked, and he did accept that God did it. Newton also held the belief that the laws he discovered could change in an instant if God wished. That is not the way the vast majority of scientists would think today. Not sure on Lennox's view on that, maybe someone should ask him? I am not versed, yet, in the science of ancient China, I will be though. But Lennox seems to dismiss the ancient Chinese enquiringly mind as nought but fireworks, we'll see. And briefly, are not most Nobel prize winners Jewish, maybe Lennox counts that as belief in God, I will look into that too.
I'll begin looking in those directions as well... Have you checked out 'The Vedas'? Apparently, concepts within regarding our universe springing forth from a singularity inspired modern cosmological models.
I have looked at Chinese science. It appears mainly to have concentrated on technology of use in day to day lives. In that area it was way beyond the western world for centuries. Chines may have taken their math from India or Western Asia, but were quite competent in areas such as astronomy. You can read about Chinese science on the net, just google it. Of course there was no God of Abraham involved in China. Whilst checking China I came across scientific advancement in India, Persia and Greece. All had no inkling of Jesus of course when they studied maths, geometry, philosophy etc. But Mr Lennox omits these facts. He is sounding more and more like a creationist in the way he cherry picks. I will listen more to his ideas in this video. I'll be back
Tools: One thing is technology & another how you used, the actual shows that is the use of technology & shylocks that are the problem not technology* it took more than 200 + years to reach a smartphone, no different than the old phone, however now you can communicate globally, “ A big difference” same as Facebook twitter// Facebook might act unlawfully, however you cannot blame the servers because of Facebook behavior. Gutenberg can be not be blame for the propaganda, brainwashing, or any other use: misuse of the printing press. Google advertising campaign, is Google wall street & financiers and banker. Not the processor or photons on the device.!! What is required is a Magna Carta for the web/ to supervise the usage of technology, not to destroy what took a long time to make + on a wining road; there is A difference between a discovery & a finding, technology finds what is already possible. On the material world. Discovery is what you can do with your mind. Exploring mars is no different than exploring your own consciousness. Technology eases labor force & gives more time to the individual.
13 minutes in ""science is the only way to truth" Lennox appears not to agree with this. What then was Newton seeking if not truth. I would not think he was seeking how to perform magic. Although some would say he was, like his contemporaries, into alchemy. New was seeking what was the truth in nature, is that not what we ask when we ask how? He believed it was god's truth he sought but truth nevertheless. Newton did not settle for "that's the way it is" as an answer, no, he sought the truth. Carry on Mr Lennox
Did you miss the point? He said science is not the ONLY way to truth. Science can lead to truth, just not the whole truth, like how a quadratic equation crosses the x axis at two points. Science gives one value of x(how), but the answer is not complete without the other value(why)... LOL pun not intended but hahaha!
Question, Can we have 2 God's, Can a God comes as human - *Jesus* later got killed or crucified by Jews. Who killed him not being prophet of the God but when he reveled or claimed he is either son of God or actual God. Bible changed a lot by different hand and evidence in the Bible suggest - Jesus was not a God just a messenger like any other prophets in Quran or Tora. I recommend all Christians to research read understand with evidence provided, blind faith take you to darkness.
But there were not two Gods when Jesus came. God of the Bible has always been Triune, which is three in one. Jesus is the Word in the gospel according to John. Jesus is eternal just like God the Father is eternal. They are also the same God. Where did the Bible change or God changed? Jesus is God. I am afraid it is you that is in the dark. You need to hear the words of Jesus that He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes unto the Father except through Him.
38 - 40 mins in. Mind, brain, evolution, God. Does Lennox have any theories as to how and when his God gave us the power of thought? It always seems to me to be dropped in in such a way that it never gets any scrutiny. Dawkins et al would say that the brain evolved along with the body of humans. Every mammal has a brain and that brain does more than control its eyes ears mouth nose etc and all it'd senses. Mammals appear to learn behaviour and often can be trained to react to stimulus such as food. Is that mot a kind of thinking or at least working of the brain in some abstract sense? You see mammals care for their young, even if this is instinct it must be transmitted from brain to action in some way as the brain controls almost all motor functions. Lennox you can't just sit there and say it is not possible without a Creator, you need to go further and tell us how.
Dartpopo2000 Popo So we humans don't have any instincts? We don't care for our young as an instinct? You telling me you never do anything instinctively? How do you breath? Do you not instinctively feel pain, hunger, lust? Get real!!!
@Mickymillersson You wrote, "Does Lennox have any theories as to how and when his God gave us the power of thought?" Why should he have a theory when God has already provided the answer? We are created in the imagine with free will as moral agents, which requires that we have the power of thought. We are not just mere animals that God raised up. We are humans unique in that we are the only thing that is created in God's image. Without a creator what do you have left? Well random chance or necessity. Necessity is not sufficient to demand that we humans get created. Random chance is not even in the realm of possibilities as the chance for us to even be here is so remote the universe itself is no big enough to contain the odds. Additionally, neither necessity nor random chance are causal agents.
Scientists do stand back in wonderment, not of gods works but of natures works. There really is not much of a gap, you just fill it with a supernatural being. Just one more step to wonder about really, one more totally unnecessary step.
32 mins we get to gospel of John, so called. This I am lead to understand was written at least 3 generations after the supposed Jesus existed. I read lots of John only last evening, because I know Lennox quotes it. It is not a biography of Jesus, it is propaganda if anything. Skilfully written to bring in old stories from the old testament to make it look like Jesus fulfilled some prophecy. Lennox knows what the bible scholars think about John yet he quotes it and quotes it as if it were fact, the truth. We seem to have got back yo that again now, but via Lennox.
This guy Lennox makes strawmen out of strawmen. This is what happens when a guy gets a few fans and feels that it gives them license to just keep on.....
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I can't help it, I really, really REALLY enjoy listening to Dr Lennox.
what A Man He Is! The world is a better place with John Lennox in it.
So true! It's one of my greatest dreams to meet him one day, in this or in the eternal life.
Mr. Lennox, all I can say in response to your lecture is; THANK YOU:-)
If religious fairy tales, superstitions, imaginary invisible beings, and other made-up stuff can fool an educated Dr. Lennox by exploiting his emotions & gullibility, imagine what it could do to not-so-educated emotional gullible folks.
@@AtamMardes Which specific argument are you referring to? Spoiler: Everybody has a worldview and believes something. The question is: what is the evidence! E.g. how do you explain abiogenesis and consciousness?
@@immanuel829 Neither abiogenesis nor evolution needs God. The evil COVID19, influenza, malaria, etc., are DNA/RNA based. They can't be God's creation or variations of it due to imperfections bc by your definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. Since nature by itself has created those evil RNAs & DNAs, then nature by itself can create life from non-life.
@@AtamMardes afqg
@@immanuel829 you miss the whole point of his talks. The mechanistic and the agent explanations don't conflict. They complement. Think higher
My son and grandson went to this talk that John gave at ASU. It was packed and very fun to share with family. My grandson had a question that John answered near the end. It was the one that asked how do we reach his age group.
My brother who I love truly. For our young ones, need to know. That each and everyone of them are precious indeed. More precious than anything you see, touch, or smell. For all things was created just for them. Being slave from within and out. Our decisions are half and half. I'm an imperfect man. Being WHOLE is worth defining. First is by choice...being humble. Lamb and a lion from within indeed. But me and you have fallen short. Defining contentment, is like doing your best for your wife or husband. You can be perfect or WHOLE. You can still be denied. Then what? To some BECOME dismayed but to some will find it. If Jesus was denied. Obviously, me and you, can be also denied. You can be perfect to your wife or husband. How can a man and woman be truly content with great thankfulness to keep saying thank you my God.
Brilliant man.
Grand salute from India.
learning a lot of arguments for God from him.
Much love from Germany ❤
Amen!! Science points towards God! Praise God!
+Alex Joseph No, kid, science says nothing of the kind.
A Ward Hardly. Lennox proposes a half model where he compares his imagines magical universe where "things are different" than they really are, to observations. The flaws are obvious to anyone that has taken any science. We don't do invalid comparison models mixed with presupposition to evidence undefined quantities. That's called dishonest process.
+frosted1030 How did you manage to comment on the other Lennox video that was taken down?
Klaus von Zeit TH-cam is strange sometimes.
+A Ward his arguments don't go over peopled heads. He doesn't have an argument. He has a narrative based on his twisted logic. He begins with a conclusion that there is a god. Where does one go from there. He does not have any proof of this God only hid belief. Anyone could base an "argument" on a myth and present bucket loads of so called proof. Try arguing that the earth is just a flat disc? It's easy to back up your argument. I used to do it for a laugh 50 years ago. Have you seen the "we never went to the moon" videos? If you start with a BS concept it's so easy to pile more and more BS on top of it to present a case. Look at at Lennox body language, he's a BSer and he knows it.
There is amazing beauty in how this triggers non-believers.
Indeed. To be more precise: how this triggers believers in naturalism :) everybody believes something.
Such a wonderful lecture!
Thank you for this wonderful lecture, I learn so very much from listening to these important interpretations. Something about John
I am drawn to, a great speaker.
I like to say that "science can be wonderfully applied in an attempt to figure out how God has created all things"
the boiling water parts really got me...
If religious fairy tales, superstitions, imaginary invisible beings, and other made-up stuff can fool an educated Dr. Lennox by exploiting his emotions & gullibility, imagine what it could do to not-so-educated emotional gullible folks.
@@AtamMardes Which specific argument are you referring to? Spoiler: Everybody has a worldview and believes something. The question is: what is the evidence! E.g. how do you explain abiogenesis and consciousness?
@@immanuel829😅 is that all you got? This lil bit of miserable misunderstanding and ignorance? 😅
Unbelievably informative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
👏👏👏👏
When it comes to the God of Origins or the god of operations(god of the gaps),NO Christian believes that lightening happens because God caused it. Anytime you explain operation in science, it has a naturalistic explanation. However, if you discuss origins, (origin of life, space, time, matter, laws etc) we explain the origins of these metaphysical operations as created by God.
Before you choose to deny Jesus/God, understand what it is that you are rejecting first.
Recheck your understanding of Christian beliefs. Let me answer with a statement on the providence of God: The almighty and ever present power of God1
by which God upholds, as with his hand,
heaven and earth and all creatures, and so rules them that leaf and blade, rain and drought, fruitful and lean years, food and drink, health and sickness, prosperity and poverty, all things, in fact, come to us not by chance but by his fatherly hand ( Heidelberg Catechism).
The explanation of lightning, ironically, was developed by Christian scientists like Michael Faraday and James Clerk Maxwell.
I don't understand why a Christian can't accept the phenomena of lightning and know that its strike was in the will of God. Learn some more Christian theology, please.
But humans indeed did once believe a god created thunder and lightning. They inserted gif because they had no other way scientifically yet to answer the question, much like Christians now when referring to the origin of the universe, another example of how religions are man made.
@@ItsSVO you can say God created the lightening - but when happens in nature it happens naturally. When I get a cup of tea, I initiated it but there is also a completely natural explanation as to why the molecules are boiling and spinning around due to the increased heat and electricity. Both explanations are valid
@@newygreek yet the difference here is evidence, you can be observed initiating the making of the tea, god however has never been observed to be responsible for the creation of lightning. God is not a valid explanation for anything without evidence, nice try though.
We have buried thousands of them. There’s only one left to go.
Science rules all. This fact will always remain.
I like Lennox a lot, but I'm not happy that he used the misleading and PC "three Abrahamic religions". Whoever sent Jesus didn't also send Mohamed, and they are not the same God.
MrJeter693
That is indeed a way to define that phrase, but I think it connotatively indicates that Islam is legitimately in the Judeo-Christian religious trajectory (i.e. that whether or not Judaism or Christianity are or were accurate religions, Christianity was actually founded by Jews, but Islam was not founded by Jews or Christians) -- Mohamed grafted himself back on Abraham with no basis.
MrJeter693
Yes, that is technically true *if* we accept that the Arabs are the lineage of Ishmael (I don't know) but it conveys a misleading impression that I wish Lennox had simply not given.
MrJeter693
You have more faith in people than I do!
MrJeter693
It sounds to me like you have faith in peoples' intellectual honesty.
You said:
"I'm pretty sure that people will research and understand."
+20july1944 I think if you were to study Islam you would see that it is indeed a belief in your God. Was it not Gabriel who visited Muhammad and was it not the same Gabriel who spoke to Mary. I'm afraid you are in denial about your God. You just doing want to belief he sent another messenger do you. Or it could be one of two other explanations. Gabriel worked for two different gods or its all bull shit.
Science only doing 2 things:
1. Doing the research about things that already been created by God. Example: Science did not created the sun, but science only doing the research everything about the sun like how far it's from earth, how hot it was, whether it has axis, what are the purposes of its light, etc etc.
2. Doing the exploitation with the sources that already been created by God. Example: Science created satelites and later they invented Internet. But science use the materials that created by God like steel and other metals to build the satelites. For TV transmission and Internet, science use the wave that already been created by God.
Still, science cannot understand the metaphysic world. Science just making people understand how things works. Sure, science is good for mankind, but still we have to believe 'the super power' who created the world including created human, animal, plant, planet, wind, oxygen (for us to breathe) and even all the scientists themselve (which are human) are also created by God.
Can't go yet - one hour. God and Genesis. I've read it . Where does the "us" and "our" come into the story of ONE God?
John 1:1 (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
-was 'with' God. The Son was Begotten and with God before creation.
“Let Us make man in Our image...” google that phrase
Thats the way God revealed himself. Concept of trinity is three person in one being. Father, Son and Holy Spirit
In the beginning was the Word...
In the beginning there was nothing as God created everything out of nothing.
If by thing we mean any concept or created animate or inanimate object,
then God is nothing, no thing, then there was nothing in the beginning, since He is pure Spirit.
The evidence for the Resurrection is watertight.
19 mins in. Back to the atheism is a religion lie. It's not my original come back to that but, non-stamp collecting is not a hobby. If Lennox can state it is using logic I would love to hear it. I can state that I am passionate about arguing with people who try to convince me that their belief in any form of the supernatural is true. But that's not my religion. I belong to a political party and support its aims, it's not a religion or a belief it's the outcome of my life experiences and my study of society and politics etc.
+A Ward If I follow your logic correctly and there is not a heaven then we both end at death. If there is an afterlife then are you saying it will not apply to me because I don't believe it will happen? Then logically, if I follow you right, there is only a heaven/afterlife if you believe there is. Isn't that my point entirely.
Newton lived at a time when Christianity was the norm in the western world. He was therefore a Christian. Newton, as I understand it, was attempting to discover how nature worked, and he did accept that God did it. Newton also held the belief that the laws he discovered could change in an instant if God wished. That is not the way the vast majority of scientists would think today. Not sure on Lennox's view on that, maybe someone should ask him? I am not versed, yet, in the science of ancient China, I will be though. But Lennox seems to dismiss the ancient Chinese enquiringly mind as nought but fireworks, we'll see. And briefly, are not most Nobel prize winners Jewish, maybe Lennox counts that as belief in God, I will look into that too.
I'll begin looking in those directions as well... Have you checked out 'The Vedas'? Apparently, concepts within regarding our universe springing forth from a singularity inspired modern cosmological models.
I have looked at Chinese science. It appears mainly to have concentrated on technology of use in day to day lives. In that area it was way beyond the western world for centuries. Chines may have taken their math from India or Western Asia, but were quite competent in areas such as astronomy. You can read about Chinese science on the net, just google it. Of course there was no God of Abraham involved in China. Whilst checking China I came across scientific advancement in India, Persia and Greece. All had no inkling of Jesus of course when they studied maths, geometry, philosophy etc. But Mr Lennox omits these facts. He is sounding more and more like a creationist in the way he cherry picks. I will listen more to his ideas in this video. I'll be back
The universe needs a creator. Almighty Allah is the Originator of the universe and great law ( laws of physics) giver.
Tools: One thing is technology & another how you used, the actual shows that is the use of technology & shylocks that are the problem not technology* it took more than 200 + years to reach a smartphone, no different than the old phone, however now you can communicate globally, “ A big difference” same as Facebook twitter// Facebook might act unlawfully, however you cannot blame the servers because of Facebook behavior. Gutenberg can be not be blame for the propaganda, brainwashing, or any other use: misuse of the printing press. Google advertising campaign, is Google wall street & financiers and banker. Not the processor or photons on the device.!! What is required is a Magna Carta for the web/ to supervise the usage of technology, not to destroy what took a long time to make + on a wining road; there is A difference between a discovery & a finding, technology finds what is already possible. On the material world. Discovery is what you can do with your mind. Exploring mars is no different than exploring your own consciousness. Technology eases labor force & gives more time to the individual.
13 minutes in ""science is the only way to truth" Lennox appears not to agree with this. What then was Newton seeking if not truth. I would not think he was seeking how to perform magic. Although some would say he was, like his contemporaries, into alchemy. New was seeking what was the truth in nature, is that not what we ask when we ask how? He believed it was god's truth he sought but truth nevertheless. Newton did not settle for "that's the way it is" as an answer, no, he sought the truth. Carry on Mr Lennox
Did you miss the point? He said science is not the ONLY way to truth. Science can lead to truth, just not the whole truth, like how a quadratic equation crosses the x axis at two points. Science gives one value of x(how), but the answer is not complete without the other value(why)...
LOL pun not intended but hahaha!
Question, Can we have 2 God's, Can a God comes as human - *Jesus* later got killed or crucified by Jews. Who killed him not being prophet of the God but when he reveled or claimed he is either son of God or actual God. Bible changed a lot by different hand and evidence in the Bible suggest - Jesus was not a God just a messenger like any other prophets in Quran or Tora. I recommend all Christians to research read understand with evidence provided, blind faith take you to darkness.
But there were not two Gods when Jesus came. God of the Bible has always been Triune, which is three in one. Jesus is the Word in the gospel according to John. Jesus is eternal just like God the Father is eternal. They are also the same God. Where did the Bible change or God changed? Jesus is God. I am afraid it is you that is in the dark. You need to hear the words of Jesus that He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes unto the Father except through Him.
38 - 40 mins in. Mind, brain, evolution, God. Does Lennox have any theories as to how and when his God gave us the power of thought? It always seems to me to be dropped in in such a way that it never gets any scrutiny. Dawkins et al would say that the brain evolved along with the body of humans. Every mammal has a brain and that brain does more than control its eyes ears mouth nose etc and all it'd senses. Mammals appear to learn behaviour and often can be trained to react to stimulus such as food. Is that mot a kind of thinking or at least working of the brain in some abstract sense? You see mammals care for their young, even if this is instinct it must be transmitted from brain to action in some way as the brain controls almost all motor functions. Lennox you can't just sit there and say it is not possible without a Creator, you need to go further and tell us how.
its the mamals insting, its not love....
Dartpopo2000 Popo
So we humans don't have any instincts? We don't care for our young as an instinct? You telling me you never do anything instinctively? How do you breath? Do you not instinctively feel pain, hunger, lust? Get real!!!
@Mickymillersson You wrote, "Does Lennox have any theories as to how and when his God gave us the power of thought?" Why should he have a theory when God has already provided the answer? We are created in the imagine with free will as moral agents, which requires that we have the power of thought. We are not just mere animals that God raised up. We are humans unique in that we are the only thing that is created in God's image.
Without a creator what do you have left? Well random chance or necessity. Necessity is not sufficient to demand that we humans get created. Random chance is not even in the realm of possibilities as the chance for us to even be here is so remote the universe itself is no big enough to contain the odds. Additionally, neither necessity nor random chance are causal agents.
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Scientists do stand back in wonderment, not of gods works but of natures works. There really is not much of a gap, you just fill it with a supernatural being. Just one more step to wonder about really, one more totally unnecessary step.
32 mins we get to gospel of John, so called. This I am lead to understand was written at least 3 generations after the supposed Jesus existed. I read lots of John only last evening, because I know Lennox quotes it. It is not a biography of Jesus, it is propaganda if anything. Skilfully written to bring in old stories from the old testament to make it look like Jesus fulfilled some prophecy. Lennox knows what the bible scholars think about John yet he quotes it and quotes it as if it were fact, the truth. We seem to have got back yo that again now, but via Lennox.
This guy Lennox makes strawmen out of strawmen. This is what happens when a guy gets a few fans and feels that it gives them license to just keep on.....
you are a strawman, man!