Carrying as a Support Player (ELO Hell)

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    Dewy is SMFC and Faceit Level 2 as a Support Player, but he's having trouble carrying. What is he doing wrong, and is it even possible to carry your team to victory and rank up to level 10 as a support player?
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  • @vooCSGO
    @vooCSGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    nordVPN.com/voo
    submit to ELO Hell ► docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfuQfzmVS2p_j8-g4YbRJTt__aFnggrCq7D--GibyPxKWAXCw/viewform
    sorry just moved so my mic settings were a bit weird and don't sound normal. should be fixed for the next video.

  • @YTnamesAreBS
    @YTnamesAreBS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Someone who is surpreme won't have any problems in Faceit level 1 and 2. Something is strange about this guy, probably got boosted in MM

    • @The_savvy_Lynx
      @The_savvy_Lynx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Yup the way he "entrypaths" looks so scared and confused, MG1 player who got boosted by smurfing GE friends seems like the rational explanation.

    • @prodbydavis
      @prodbydavis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Most solely support players do get boosted because they rely on duo, trio or even 5man with higher skilled players to win and then claim it’s because they are “support”

    • @angus5427
      @angus5427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@prodbydavis "guys I'm support player" as his premade team goes to carry

    • @Leg1oNcs
      @Leg1oNcs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Faceit ZA is region locked to 1 hub and gold league and diamond and masters are the 3 leagues which all have level caps and gold is a mix of silvers to GEs so the teams are fucked and its not the most fun to play and or get out of. also Ik dewy dont roast my dewy :(

    • @Jack_-et9zi
      @Jack_-et9zi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a GN4/MG1 in NA and I can drop 35-45 kills in lvl 1 and 2 faceit

  • @za_sNse
    @za_sNse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    *PSA* For those trying to compare this to NA or EU cs, this is South African Faceit, we dont have a huge scene and Faceit is split into 3 league's. Gold League (which is 1-4 and what we are watching), Diamond (semi-pro league 6-10) Masters (+10).
    Gold is where every player can join so you can get Nova4s playing against GE stacks and the skill gap between Gold and Diamond is so big that often a single Diamond player getting booted to Gold is enough to carry the team with +40 frags (no exaggerating).
    Now not making excuses for Dewy but ZA Gold faceit has a huge problem with toxicity and "baiting" and due to the skill gaps of the league (hence why you see him letting everyone going in first, in his mind he doesn't trust these players to do anything properly, which is also why he throws the util because he doesn't trust them to do it)

    • @milzcs8175
      @milzcs8175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeeh well said. This is literally ZA faceit, well described dude

    • @marcodekock
      @marcodekock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      IMO Dewy is playing with zero confidence, coming from someone that knows these leagues, he was essentially just doing general util, not playing support. For example, after their A exec, he runs away and goes palace instead of taking a good afterplant position to play off teammates and hold the retake as a unit - essentially running away to a hiding spot due to, in my opinion, a lack of confidence and self belief

    • @keepthingscool1
      @keepthingscool1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Souzern is a really awkward league in terms of skill gaps tbh, they should make a bronze (1-3) gold (4-6) and diamond (7-10+) but don't think there's enough people available to make that happen, but maybe if it's a bit easier to get into there will be more players joining the hub in SA

  • @RaimaNd
    @RaimaNd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I read a lot in the forums and it's so interesting to read the roles. People don't understand that in PUGs there is no role you play, you are everything depending on the situation. And even in team vs team fights only at a respectable level you start fitting into a role, which gets optimized the further you go in terms of the level of team. But even on the highest level anyone can be anything depending on the situation. Sometimes a support is entrying, sometimes a entry is supporting. Same with lurking etc. - it all is so dependend on how the round is played out, even spawns can already decide that. So your video is a great example how someone is mentally stuck with the idea that he HAS to be the support player and never do something on his own.

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      even thinking about if youre a support player or not before faceit lvl 10 is just stupid

  • @artemkatelnytskyi
    @artemkatelnytskyi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I think "roles" in general are a really fluid thing in csgo. One round you are entry fragging because you got a better spawn, another you are lurking, another you are supporting with utility, which is something anybody should do anyway. The only roles which are pretty solid, in my opinion, are probably sniper and team leader.

  • @roblovvorn8564
    @roblovvorn8564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I consider myself a support player but I view that as doing whatever the team needs, filling in the gaps.
    No one wants to entry, I’ll entry. Everyone is really aggressive but doesn’t use nades, I’ll flash and smoke for them. No one is awping, I’ll AWP. No one anchors, I’ll anchor. No one rotates, I’ll rotate.
    To me that’s being a support player. I do what the team needs, not just insist on my style or preference

    • @frenchdna3727
      @frenchdna3727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're a good teammate. High five man. I hope our MM paths will cross someday.

    • @roblovvorn8564
      @roblovvorn8564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frenchdna3727 thanks man, you too

    • @AnaAna-sz9vy
      @AnaAna-sz9vy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the end ur mates shit on u cause u r not on the top of the score board.
      i played a match recently on inferno, where i was a b player and had to play retake mode on a every single round, ofc no impact for me no frags, got the whole match mates shitting on me cause i have less kills 🤷‍♂️

  • @michaelschwarz5907
    @michaelschwarz5907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    the problem is that it's not Dota 2 where you pick your role at the beginning of the game. your role changes according to the situation at hand. and that's why i have some issues with people throwing around terms like support, entry, awper, carry and so on.
    if you put your pro support in a potato lobby, he will prolly do the entry fragging, IGL and awping just as well as any other pro with a different role.

    • @alcazar9266
      @alcazar9266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      you dont igl in low ranks, people just get annoyed by you telling them how to play. give strats sometimes, dont igl.

    • @michaelschwarz5907
      @michaelschwarz5907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alcazar9266 at mg2 it works until you lose 2 rounda in a row lol

    • @alcazar9266
      @alcazar9266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaelschwarz5907 dont igl in low ranks. no one wants to listen to an mg2 telling them how to play, and the chances are your strats are terrible.

    • @michaelschwarz5907
      @michaelschwarz5907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alcazar9266 It's not really IGL. it's just saying which bombsite we end up

    • @abyss1997
      @abyss1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelschwarz5907 yeah but in matchmaking no one listens anyway so better to just play for yourself.

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    5:22 I'd be raging like fck if I was the cat player. Can't stand it when someone hides and let's enemies walk past and shoot team mates in the back.

    • @Jack_-et9zi
      @Jack_-et9zi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Facts. Baiting teammates are the actual bane of my existence because 90% of the time they're also a monkey brained retard who can't even trade the bait.

    • @cartoonking9735
      @cartoonking9735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      id be pissed off if i was the T, no fucking way I check site if I can kill the guy cat and not get immediately traded

    • @murdock.12
      @murdock.12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeeeah hands down that was the bait of the decade. I litteraly said ''oh he's not underconfident, he is just a fucking baiter''

    • @swishswushdusch9319
      @swishswushdusch9319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can imagine the voice chat after that one😂

  • @notnothaze
    @notnothaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    not quite as high ranked as this guy (SEM), but i also do this a lot in my lvl 2 games, something to definitely take into account

    • @armeretta
      @armeretta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Am I the only one who's opposite? I'm Faceit 10 but can't make it out of mg1

    • @Lurchstavo
      @Lurchstavo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@armeretta face it 10 isn’t difficult to be fair

    • @zakwilson9435
      @zakwilson9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@Lurchstavo lol

    • @BenTene
      @BenTene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Lurchstavo what

    • @Lurchstavo
      @Lurchstavo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BenTene it’s not lol

  • @murdock.12
    @murdock.12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree completely Voo, my suppport teammate designated from the very beggining as the bomb carrier stuck to that role for so long that he didn't develop that what is important in CS and everybody knows: it is a shooter. So he lost a lot of engagements due to lacking of confidence. I told him to play a bit more aggresive and let him go as entry fragger for a couple of games to get confidence and start shooting people (and me taking the role of support/igl/bomb carrier), and I can't tell you how much he developed his game since that. Thanks for the video, keep it up.

  • @decoy1135
    @decoy1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    5:03 is actually true in low ranks as players who use that tend to use it as a crutch cause they cant aim without a scope

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good on Nuke T side, but without scope it sucks bad

  • @deltaslayer1132
    @deltaslayer1132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:44 OOF that teamflash is brutal

  • @Falllll
    @Falllll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Sorta wonder how this guy would do in a higher leveled game. Perhaps he'd almost do better just because his teammates could actually take advantage of his support.

    • @kontorsik1769
      @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      dont wonder i am in this place so i could do from great / terrible to amazing, thing is with support players they will go 0-8 and end up matching topfragger in end, also thing about faceit is when you go 0-8 your team will show which mental institution clinic they are staying at

    • @musicstation3008
      @musicstation3008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      nah bro, i think he getting used to high level play style as a support so he don't have the confident for agressive play even in low rank. because in high rank people have good aim and high game sense which effected his play style. if you have bad aim you will developed a support role, it's a fancy way to say you are a coward who rely heavily on other to do the big play. It's the mind set that make an agressive and a pasive player.

    • @kontorsik1769
      @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@musicstation3008 i have no clue what you talking , but i can say support players can develop their game for most would be enough to get more hz more fps ofcourse you need the grind if you want uprank fast

    • @musicstation3008
      @musicstation3008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kontorsik1769 im talking about the support mindset not about crappy PC or playing on a laptop. if you have a crappy PC then there is no way you can out duel other that have better setting than you in a gun fight let alone ranking up.

    • @kontorsik1769
      @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@musicstation3008 i actually know people with terrible pc pings etc they out aim close to pro players i seen it happen was funny

  • @Destroyer3O3
    @Destroyer3O3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad you make these videos. It feels like this is how most my teammates play in mid Elo mm ranks. Especially on T side it’s just terrible. No one attempts to trade and people seem to play for a save as soon as round starts, camping in spawn.

  • @MeMoRiiEs95
    @MeMoRiiEs95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel this guy. I am that kind of player too, simply because I am not that mechanically talented in raw aim and I love CS utility usage for support. I would say your gameplay must adapt depending on your team.. lower ranks do suffer from people simply running around with no objective in mind, thus utility usage is basically useless. The higher the rank, the higher the chance your playstyle as a support can benefit the team. At least this is my experience and I agree with u a support player must adapt and understand when to engage properly.
    Now that I am lv8 I feel my knowledge in terms of utility is helping the team, even more when there are entry fraggers. Still, I only play solo queue, so that team roles are not consistent over matches

  • @aerostorm_
    @aerostorm_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video. Hard agree with the idea of a pigeonhole mindset.
    I find myself in the same situation a lot where I always have to be the entry. It makes my play sloppy sometimes and/or I'm ignoring something a teammate may be doing to give myself an advantage.

    • @zombiesalad2722
      @zombiesalad2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had the same problem before. Now I've been "EgoPeeking" for the past few weeks and I am winning more engagements than before.

  • @engodsibbe
    @engodsibbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m pretty new to the game, around 650h. I’m LE currently and faceit lvl 5. I’m always the most aggressive player in the games, I’m always the one pushing the sites as a T, hoping to get traded if I die. But people are always so scared and usually I just end up getting an entry frag then die because I’m all alone on the site.

    • @TomJacobW
      @TomJacobW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If that’s always the case, sounds like you‘re too aggressive, then. That and lacking communication, if you teammates aren’t joining in on your push. On LE people should be good enough to do that. And if all of that doesn’t work, then there’s no point in continuing doing the aggressive pushing; if the teammates aren’t really doing what they should or even just what you want, then you have to adapt - you‘re not going to teach them on the spot. Maybe they are more comfortable pushing with full smokes down or you just have to play it Navi.

    • @Kitica95
      @Kitica95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Practice when you clear first 2 angles, then stop and hold the second angle for 2-3 seconds.
      Now when you swing site, you will all peek together.
      Your teammates are late because they are clearing the same angles you just cleared.
      For low buy rushes, cant help you with those, those are just too random

    • @Jack_-et9zi
      @Jack_-et9zi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find that in my games, assuming somewhat competent teammates which is admittedly a lot to ask, if someone is trying to entry and what you're describing is happening it's because they don't communicate well enough. If you want to entry onto a site and get traded make sure you aren't just going to the site and moving onto it without telling your team clearly what you want to happen. It's not enough to just say "lets go B" either. You need to specifically say "I'm peeking x, flash me in" or "I'm entrying now, X person I need to be peeking close while I peek wide so you can trade me" or something like that. The more clear and decisive you can be with you calls and communcation and the more you seem like you know what you're talking about the more likely your team while 1. do what you ask and 2. actually hear you and be able to do so. And remember not to just say "I'm peeking x trade me" as you're peeking it, your team probably won't be in a position to trade you well unless you give them a second to actually get ready to help, and especially don't flame them or be toxic afterwards, even if they're actual monkeys. If you entry, they don't trade, and then you get toxic while they're still alive it'll tilt them and throw the round. Save any comments till the start of the next round and be sure to say it in a way that doesn't sound like you're attacking them. If someone is being a monkey brained moron wait until the game is over and then be toxic lmao.

    • @pax5072
      @pax5072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just start throwing if that happen multiple time in faceit.

    • @Luu-K
      @Luu-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can't really give advice, i'm shit. just wanted to say that faceit level 5 at 650h is very impressive

  • @JohnDoe-ch7bo
    @JohnDoe-ch7bo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This shows me mm rank matters even less

    • @dmitriydrozdov1035
      @dmitriydrozdov1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes lower faceit levels are unbearable in terms of communication and toxicity. It was almost impossible for me to rank up for some time. MM feels more friendly for me personally than low faceit levels.

    • @aok9153
      @aok9153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@dmitriydrozdov1035 2300-2700 elo faceit is the most toxic experience you can possibly have. good communication is rare, most of the time its just +W get kill, plant bomb. At best a default mid take.
      Sometimes if you get lucky you will have a single person hyped up on cocaine call strats

    • @kenchao95
      @kenchao95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aok9153 true lol strats are always play default then thats it

    • @aok9153
      @aok9153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenchao95 Just yesterday i beat three 4000 elo players just by playing default and out aiming them
      You will really only see strats in pro games or actual teams
      I bet that even in FPL they should play default and aim head

  • @AltairWorld
    @AltairWorld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the problem for Dewy is he's trying to take on a role in a low elo match and end up losing. He would rather do 10 times better if he just press W and play super aggressive and entryfrag for the team untill he reaches a higher elo game, where your teammates takes advantage of your supporting utility.

  • @prodbydavis
    @prodbydavis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    this game has 3 global players on the enemy team also to be fair, strowk_rsa and SalemReaper are both globals too

    • @ericmassey3781
      @ericmassey3781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa man
      But i think SMFC and Globals are not that different in Aim duels and individual play, Globals are kinda like they just won more matches.

    • @LolLol-oo9yu
      @LolLol-oo9yu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What rank was jz lul

    • @nikowastaken
      @nikowastaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow and? Globals are shit

    • @karthiksnayak
      @karthiksnayak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericmassey3781 Not necessarily true. I know people who have like a 1000+ wins and still stuck in Nova ranks.

    • @lnhaIee
      @lnhaIee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MM ranks say nothing

  • @Silver7Bird
    @Silver7Bird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was this video 2 years ago when I finally made move from support to entry to find my balance in game style? haha Great vid voo.

  • @AbDeRRaHiMX
    @AbDeRRaHiMX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:20 this cracks me up every time lmao

  • @lks_cs8468
    @lks_cs8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Could you do a proper "how to support properly" video would help the so called supports a lot.

  • @sieevansetiawan4792
    @sieevansetiawan4792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play B site on Mirage, and have not thought about 3:27.
    New things to learn. Thanks voo

  • @swishswushdusch9319
    @swishswushdusch9319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:20-5:30. He totally sold out his teammate. He is just scared. Totally boost account. I would say he belongs in gn4

  • @ericmassey3781
    @ericmassey3781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a support style player cause i am afraid of taking aim duels (cause my aim sucks so bad), and try to go last but one match my team was just couldn't kill the enemy team where i had to go as the entry and take entries and surprisingly i outaimed them and clutched 3 to 4 rounds as 1vX and won the match. I am level 2 currently as i am GNM in MM (was MGE 2 months back but stopped playing for two months straight and lost my noob aim i had earlier).

  • @carpediem6764
    @carpediem6764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In csgo, you need to be confident whether or not you're a support. I made it to faceit level 7 even though I did not know a lot of utility lineups but instead I was always looking for contact and spearheading the enemy for my team, my competitive rank was mge.

    • @kawwuh
      @kawwuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I’m level 7 and I only know the stairs smoke on mirage

    • @VtojeC
      @VtojeC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kawwuh That's a shame.

  • @HEXZ0R-
    @HEXZ0R- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:48 actually nice smoke :D

  • @fis1ks752
    @fis1ks752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Support = bad"
    Yeah as my team's "support player" who consistently has the lowest enemies flashed and of course bottom frags, I can confirm.

  • @Rosa-xg8tb
    @Rosa-xg8tb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's so interesting seeing someone be supreme with faceit lvl 2, when i myself am around level 4-6 and can't get out of MGE lol

  • @MutzHD
    @MutzHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a solo player I've always pigeon holed my way into the "support" role. I think it comes down to wanting to limit risk as much as possible when playing with new players.

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rarely soloqueue. But I still have 50-80 nades thrown while some of the randoms I match with and against, have less than 10 total.
    Playing too much team CS, being used to a different Gamestyle and also having other expectations makes me uncomfortable in some soloqueue games or pugs. But trying to turn into aggressive entry just doesn't work all the time. And playing the support heavy playstyle is easy to fall back to.

  • @dewy2459
    @dewy2459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty voo helped a lot

  • @meferswift
    @meferswift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He is not support. He is baiter

    • @atrombonist
      @atrombonist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was just chillin every round and getting contact last. At best he threw a flash that blinded his mates.

    • @meferswift
      @meferswift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@atrombonist he is expecting other to take risk first than him.

  • @Kizecc
    @Kizecc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i see alot of pros use m4a1s after update do you think is worth to use now

  • @angus5427
    @angus5427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He wants to be support? Sure go for it BUT you need to know what to do. The random rotates getting his cat player shot in the back, the random rush into mid, the passiveness whenever 1 T came B. Just didn't seem to know how to play.
    Edit: 10:09 facts. Team are coming from con so you smoked bench? Learn jungle smoke then you could split A from mid.

  • @Wheezall
    @Wheezall ปีที่แล้ว

    Im GN3 and I started playing with faceit because I heard that it was better servers and matching. However people get mad when I get into games with lv 4+ because I'm not as good. I don't want to hurt other peoples levels (also don't want to get reported bcuz people say they are going to rep me). They tell me to just play mm, should I stop using faceit for now or just not worry about it?

  • @shepherdrm8486
    @shepherdrm8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atleast they can support I can basically one trick with the scout and some stupid amount of agression

  • @oleksandrmarkovichenko5774
    @oleksandrmarkovichenko5774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the way how he picks this corner 3:42 ... You know it is lvl 1 =)

  • @DonCaramell0
    @DonCaramell0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you are the weaker player (which i am playing with soem of my friends), you could have more impact by trying to entry frag more often. if someone is behind me refragging in case i dont make it, i am still of more use than a guy standing behind just throwing nades.

  • @luky2486
    @luky2486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello voo, i am not really a new player but could you describe when its good to buy helmet and when its not on ct side? Probably a video could be great!
    I hear a lot that on ct side you buy just armor but against pistols etc you get disadvantage i guess, thanks

    • @ericmassey3781
      @ericmassey3781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What i think we should do is first round armor or something and if u won pistol buy head armor so u dont die one tap from pistol or smg or galil and keep it until u die and if the Ts take AKs just dont purchase Head armor and keep an eye on their economy so u can know when they will be buying smgs so u can buy head armor. I am noob so dont stick to it hard. Hope this might help.

    • @luky2486
      @luky2486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericmassey3781 yeah you are right, thats kind of what i thought about but nowadays people do more force buys with some smgs, in pro scene as well, ive seen it yesterday where ct got killed with mp9 almost like a one tap and i am even more confused if its really worth it to save that money sometimes

    • @ericmassey3781
      @ericmassey3781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luky2486 CT side is kinda messed up in economy part cause u also have to purchase atleast 3 kits on full gun round and m4 is 3100 and takes 2 taps to the head to kill someone. But u should purchase head armor in the second round if u won pistol and buy only armor u have died and buy head armor in the next round if u didnt get any damage on ur armor so u can upgrade it for less money. That's just what i do.

  • @GregorGorjan
    @GregorGorjan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    chasing those kills...

  • @Jack_-et9zi
    @Jack_-et9zi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just dropped a faceit lvl again because I lost a game 16-14 despite hitting 42 kills. I was the only one with a k/d above 1 on my team, and in the vast majority of rounds most of my team died without any impact in the first 45 seconds and those who didn't usually survived because they were just sitting somewhere baiting everyone else, only to not even be able to trade (and most of the time not even attempt it, )

    • @antivaxxkaren8549
      @antivaxxkaren8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sometimes you just get unlucky, I had back to back to back losses with 39,37, 38 kills without overtime but I've also trolled and bottomfragged 4 games in a row and won all of them and ranked up to lvl 8. Sometimes you get lucky teammates and sometimes you don't. If you want to circumvent this you should dodge matches when your team has players with low average kills.

  • @droogbear649
    @droogbear649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No way he got smfc without being completely carried

  • @SuicidelG
    @SuicidelG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ranks seem so messed up in Faceit and normal ranked. Liked, you seem to have to be so friggin good just to get out of silver or 1/2. Its kinda wild.

  • @cahootsthe348
    @cahootsthe348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a video on how to be a coach? You seem pretty good at it so how can we do it

  • @acmilanshevachels
    @acmilanshevachels 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:54 lmao

  • @user-cm2vf3ri7l
    @user-cm2vf3ri7l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every support player should practice entry

  • @poppershnoz4536
    @poppershnoz4536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supports can Carry, but it sucks that Valve's ELO system doesn't account for Impact Rating via Support.
    Only K/D, Score, and ADR.

  • @Gibbysaurio
    @Gibbysaurio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always thought of teams as layers, were a round is usually opened and won by a good entry, as the players start to die in a row I always thought of the support player as a clutch/1vsX factor. I think that if you play B on most maps or if you stay last with the pretext to throw flashes, you are suposed to take all the information that your team has gathered and that you have seen on your radar to plot a route to either retake or clutch. Excusing yourself to your teammates while you save every round someone else doesn't entry by saying "uh well I play B, uh well I was throwing util" is just kind of pathetic.

  • @boyonggaming5396
    @boyonggaming5396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    voo your content is very helpful to me.

  • @tanaelol
    @tanaelol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i play support so that i DONT have to carry lmao

  • @boib0156
    @boib0156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bro really blamed one guy for the loss of the game for 13 minutes

    • @j0hnicide
      @j0hnicide 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is SMFC and bad

  • @NorgGrimm
    @NorgGrimm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a "Four levels of Radar usage" as I believen not many of us are using the radar to it's full potential.

    • @tomhumphries912
      @tomhumphries912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really something you can put in a video, but the concept of being aware of the map and communication being used to help build the picture would be a good topic.

  • @omegalugia9
    @omegalugia9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been B+ on ESEA for about 8 months with 72 ADR, so I think it is very much possible to rank up as a support. I do not however think you can be Rank G or Rank S with that low ADR.

    • @riyou
      @riyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't think a support role exists in pugs. The level of teamplay is so limited (simply because you cant preplan things with randoms) that anyone should be able to fulfill the "support" role given that it is needed at a certain moment. Besides, becoming a support player in pugs is like driving a car except you give the wheel to someone you picked out of a hat and the most you can do is sit in the passenger seat with one hand on the wheel guiding them

  • @notlarryschannel3985
    @notlarryschannel3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this because I'm at NA or something, I'm very stuck at GN4 no matter if I'm trying or not in MM but lv7 in faceit : /

    • @jacobc5747
      @jacobc5747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      like 1/2 the people in gold nova are smurfing or cheating since your rank just goes down quickly for no reason if you don't queue for MM a lot. The amount of previously higher ranked players in those ranks increases every year as more accounts derank.

    • @Doommafia
      @Doommafia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cap

    • @nikowastaken
      @nikowastaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is this possible bro XDD i litteraly was smurfing on smfc or globals while being on 4lvl (that time), so how???bro maybe you are boosted

    • @abyss1997
      @abyss1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are boosted on faceit, thats why. If you were a real lvl7 you would destrooooy gold novas with your eyes closed.

    • @notlarryschannel3985
      @notlarryschannel3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abyss1997 most of the time it's totally like that if I face real GNs, can play with deagles only and everything, just saying my rank never goes up however I play MM, and there are wallers and ppl that are “just good” in GN rank, it's just pretty weird.

  • @trollface9903
    @trollface9903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You talk a lot about aggressive plays but have you ever made a video on being too aggressive?

    • @ReaperGP2
      @ReaperGP2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he can take my faceit games and see a big meme thats aggressive

    • @Carryopsis
      @Carryopsis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes he has, see this video th-cam.com/video/6r1O6GW8VaQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @-AnGeLuS-
    @-AnGeLuS- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing he's a NA SMFC since no SMFC in my region (EU) is FaceIT level 2....... really weird.

  • @buck3t_
    @buck3t_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He doesn't seem very good mechanically, that movement through short to cat, and the hand eye co-ordination could use some work (firing b4 his crosshair is on the enemy).

  • @owensharp8568
    @owensharp8568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice to see ZA guys on this channel :P

  • @chirt
    @chirt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meanwhile I’m over here as gold 3 and faceit 7. MM matches are wild. I’ve given up on MM altogether at this point.

    • @Riley_k10
      @Riley_k10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gold 3 faceit 4 :( bro I peaked at 7 but teamates lack the basic motor skills to kill people standing still not looking at them

    • @chirt
      @chirt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Riley_k10 Honestly man the rank comparisons are so useless. Faceit and MM are like completely different games to me. I have a 53% win rate and 1.2+ kd in faceit playing against 10s a lot, but in MM I just get insta hs every round by G3’s.
      I had a 10 loss streak in faceit and dropped to lvl 5 but made it back to 7 pretty quick.

  • @CoryWolfheart_89
    @CoryWolfheart_89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    B4 i enetered the video was like, "yes, but your teamate must really suck" only if i knew

  • @synergytrtl7156
    @synergytrtl7156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:10
    claims to be a support player
    doesnt buy a flash after throwing top mid smoke

  • @qtuke7647
    @qtuke7647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can someone please tell me how that JZ guy got any kills???

  • @TheWehzy
    @TheWehzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hes never supreme. He got boosted.

  • @dumbass886
    @dumbass886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your internet is alright?

  • @D3ATHKeeper
    @D3ATHKeeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Faceit Gold in ZA is dog trash. The max stack in it is 3 and it's always recommended if you want to rank out of it and even then, you can get someone completely new to the game that gets their first kill in the second half of the game.
    My AVG K/D when I got out of Gold (level 5) was 1.54. Waiting to move to EU to grind the ranks there. Didn't want to lose all my elo against the ATK players.

  • @houdinics2
    @houdinics2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:21 throws a window smoke but waits till it fades to throw a molly?
    What the fuck why didnt he just go short and try to get a pick in connector/short or make his way to ladder room and use his molotov for something else?

  • @merfishsandwich691
    @merfishsandwich691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a support player too. I.e. I don't play enough games or practice enough to really improve so I just look for other people to carry me and hope to rank up in the process.

  • @breezeless_7665
    @breezeless_7665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to shit on valorant, but if someone want to have a specific role or job in the team and similar to csgo, valorant is the most ideal. Certain characters needs to peek first and certain characters needs to stay alive the longest. Csgo everyone needs to know how to use every utility and every weapon, you need to be much more flexible

  • @Tonitzki
    @Tonitzki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Support = Bad ? As a certified bad player, I can 100% confirm.

  • @dickvandraevan1675
    @dickvandraevan1675 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone saying Supremes wouldn't have trouble in low level faceit hasn't been there. Low level faceit is worse than low level mm. Trolls, people who think they know what to do but honestly are the worst, I honestly hate low level faceit. Just started back with cs2 and it's fucking rough

  • @kaimacotta403
    @kaimacotta403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Faceit 2 and supreme?

    • @kontorsik1769
      @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its teamgame, support player can play in professional earn cash games if he grinds enough, id say support roles are much closer to pros than any other because imagine you are topfragger in global elite even, pros will die of laughter when they see shots you miss / for support you need that smart escape pause time for teammates to rotate etc

  • @Wayne3
    @Wayne3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait is supreme normal for Level 2?

    • @vooCSGO
      @vooCSGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      no

    • @armeretta
      @armeretta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vooCSGO Is it normal to be faceit 10 and Nova 4? The idea of being widepeeked in MM keeps me up at night.

    • @kontorsik1769
      @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its teamgame, support player can play in professional earn cash games if he grinds enough, id say support roles are much closer to pros than any other because imagine you are topfragger in global elite even, pros will die of laughter when they see shots you miss / for support you need that smart escape pause time for teammates to rotate etc

    • @lord_nin0
      @lord_nin0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@armeretta if you're in NA yeah bc a lot of players are in a similar predicament as you are

    • @armeretta
      @armeretta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lord_nin0 Why is that? It's weird that it's only normal in NA

  • @KNDCHV
    @KNDCHV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I am so like this guy. And all of it comes from the lack of confidence. I am not an aimer. I tell that to myself, I get too passive and always get stompped by running idiots.

    • @TheGuyBL0ND3
      @TheGuyBL0ND3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the same issue for a while and the only thing that really helped me gain confidence is just grinding out deathmatch

  • @aztechuhs
    @aztechuhs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not one to usually talk trash on videos like this, but yeah...SMFC and hard stuck Faceit Level 2? The highest I've solo-queued to in MM was MG1, but even as a low-level shitter myself I was able to solo queue to Faceit Level 5, one win away from Level 6, in fewer than 100 games. Unless this dude is in the heart of EU or something it is kinda crazy to me that a Supreme can't get out of Level 2 for almost two years! Was he carried to SMFC by his friends or something?

  • @abs0lute476
    @abs0lute476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this guy in supreme? He’s not playing like he’s in supreme

  • @reecewood7567
    @reecewood7567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hes a supreme on south africa servers, i'd like to see what that corelates to in EU?

    • @odinkato4426
      @odinkato4426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats mg1 max lmao

  • @LuvU2x
    @LuvU2x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, I think every role in CS is a ‘support’. You have 5 teammates, even if you are peeking first or awping, you are supporting. The idea that you can only util is quite flawed. S1mple supports his team with flashes…but he’s not a ‘support’ you all need to be playing off each other.

  • @bcooper3588
    @bcooper3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think ranks are just fucked up, im comfortably Faceit 5-6 and cant get out of nova ranks.

    • @Doommafia
      @Doommafia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      U must be a pathological liar, cus global is roughly level 5 in faceit XD

    • @oleiccha234
      @oleiccha234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Doommafia its bcos sometimes in mm u dont have proper team mates to trust to

    • @ImDippinIn
      @ImDippinIn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same :(

    • @ImDippinIn
      @ImDippinIn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Doommafia if global is faceit 5 NA then i am high. I’m in the same boat as this guy, gn2.

  • @jumpbug2765
    @jumpbug2765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sup big daddy voo

  • @DonnaNeal-eb2rv
    @DonnaNeal-eb2rv ปีที่แล้ว

    people, do you understand that all these guides do not make any sense? this is only 10% success. The remaining 90 are a waste of almost all free time on this nonsense. he's just blowing your mind

  • @HEXZ0R-
    @HEXZ0R- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:41 cmon man .. you are supreme and u peek mid like this with no info ...wth

  • @paglaith5561
    @paglaith5561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people do this? It's not valorant where you have fixed utility and roles.

  • @JethroSalz
    @JethroSalz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IF HES SMFC THEN HE SHOULD BE EASILY OUTAIMING AND OUTPLAYING ALL LEVEL 2’S IN FACEIT

    • @n8mo
      @n8mo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr, dude plays worse than me and I’m a gold 3 shitter. He’s definitely been boosted in MM.

  • @jackwill7746
    @jackwill7746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wasnt the only one who saw cycloon right?

  • @kontorsik1769
    @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    also can be videos made why agressive playstyle players dont know how to play the game and become very toxic because of that

  • @Rpodnee
    @Rpodnee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im nova 1 and faceit 4...how can this guy be faceit 2???

  • @robertgrindley8234
    @robertgrindley8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't carry as a support *confused Es3tag noises*

  • @Leg1oNcs
    @Leg1oNcs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZA is region locked to 1 hub cause of obvious ping issues to EU or NA and the starting league in the hub is a shitshow mess of silvers to GE due to a lack of players in the scene. We lack a middle ground we don't have enough players for split leagues for level 5-7 ruffly those types of players there plenty of shitters to fill the level 1-3/4 levels so games will pop, but if we had a separate league for MM so people can 5 stack with friends it would kill a lot of games for the pro league side of it, as well as if a league for level 5-7 was a thing it would get very few to no games and same for the lvl8-10s in their own league, So MM rank in ZA really doesn't mean much if you are below LEM however then it isn't a terrible way of judging someone's skill. also these lobbies Dewy is playing in is mix of level 1s to 4s.

  • @zeronewt8566
    @zeronewt8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for having my boy Dewy 🙏

  • @bigpepsi1560
    @bigpepsi1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30 the bot is literly shotting at the legs haha, where enemy even does not see him haha and then he runs like a bot to grab the sg 🤣🤣🤣. sry i could not even finish the vid

    • @tomhumphries912
      @tomhumphries912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't laugh at the guy he's learning. He was just over compensating for the m4 spray

    • @bigpepsi1560
      @bigpepsi1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomhumphries912 he is not learning he is complaining when he is a bot, such a player just rekt ur csgo experience, he paid voo money to review his demo so he can satisfy him self oh i am good the others are trash.

  • @TheDude2010
    @TheDude2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your last criticism makes no sense. So you expect him to frag every round? He doesnt need to carry. He threw two smokes that helped the site execute. Its mirage. You dont need to over analyze A site smokes

  • @kontorsik1769
    @kontorsik1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    support doesnt mean bad, you cant make mistakes, also can mean bad if you are topfraging igl etc, it will can just expose that you cant win against worse players

  • @Baqization
    @Baqization 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me beeing faceit 6-7 and just stuck in Nova - fml. NA MM is just absurd.

  • @ack6606
    @ack6606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noooo "warOwl's voice"

  • @chase6994
    @chase6994 ปีที่แล้ว

    He just needs to play more dm

  • @abedseifeddine8608
    @abedseifeddine8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i send you my game would you watch it im lvl 4 i was playing with lvl 10s i like to play sometimes with high lvls to see my skills and play against better players

  • @dusannikolic8497
    @dusannikolic8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What on earth you talk about, whole team had kills almost as he does. 13 minutes of rubish with one or two smart words. Have you played faceit recently as a lvl 2? ...there are gold novas that are lvl 2 on faceit, it's almost as good as 5v1 if he is solo...

  • @Randy133
    @Randy133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude got boosted and it shows.