Tom, you say in one of your replies below that it is easy to “cut almost any safe in half”…does your 12 ga. Answer Safe/Cabinet provide any more practical security for its contents than your lighter gauge/weight, less expensive Agile cabinets? Is there any practical advantage to your Answer 12ga cabinets over your Agile cabinets?
I live in a suburban neighborhood with a 4 minute response time. Watched my neighbor have a gasoline/small engine accident on the side of his 60's split level. in 4 minutes the attic was fully engaged and by the time the department had water on it was about 15 minutes. Basically burned to the ground. Burning carpet & mattresses in an insulated space get going way higher than 1200. Add some petroleum and cans of paint etc and it gets pretty exciting. Get the lightweight safe and a good homeowners policy. I have the Costco special. It is not going with me to the next house. I will get a small paperwork safe and one of these lighter safes when I move.
It would be nice to see a pry test performed on your products. Your cabinets are obviously lighter, how would this affect a few burglars with pry bars or grinders? I know the True safe is very secure, but what are the cabinets capable of withstanding?
yea they basically just talk about the faults of the other safes but doesn't want to go into details of their own products that we want him to go into details about lol. I'm definitely interested in the Answer safe but need more info on the security aspect rather than the features.
THIS is the reason I have not bought one yet. I love the concept, but how does it stand up to abuse? There are no videos of anyone testing it. That's great they got a military contract, but that really doesn't tell us anything as consumers. You listening SecureIt?! Do a pry test/abuse test and if you product stands up at all then you will sell out for the modulatory offerings alone. My gut tells me they don't do these test because it will pry right open. A cabinet that you have to assemble yourself doesn't seem like it could withstand it.
I looked at your web sit a day or so ago and the True Safe was not there or I was not able to find it. Is Secure It Gun Storage company not making the True Safe anymore?
True safe 4000 dollars. Comparing it to a 1300 dollar safe is not realistic. You make a great product. No need to go after other safe companies. I've been to many break-in attempts on all sorts of safes. Liberty's did fine on fire and pry attempts. I've only seen one safe cut open. The alarm wasn't set and the thief's had plenty of time to cut it open. Most break in attempts are smash and grab under 10 min. I've also seen a liberty presidential survive a complete burn down industrial complex fire. Everything inside was fine. The lower end safes you sell can be carried away or preyed open in minutes.
I get that its marketing and sales in the gun safe world. But I think a lot of people who can afford the real deal end up going a bad route from the poor marketing. If your the typical guy "x" with 5 or more AR build having 4+ in each one along with some long rifles and everything else in between and all the typical stuff you keep safe in a safe. Then you should be shopping for a safe looking at weight first. So guy X buys a 1500 pound safe when he should have bought a 5800 pound safe. The way I looks at it why not spend the price of a new motorcycle on a safe vs trading a motor cycle and wasting money on another one when your leaving mega value in a cheap safe.
@@jeffstrains4014 Not everyone has a place for a 5,800 lb safe. And how much does it cost anyway? There's two sides of the coin, the people who buy too cheap of a safe, and the people that go overboard. Only the thin edge of people get a safe that's appropriately scaled to the value of things they keep in it and the risks posed to the items inside the safe. If I have $10,000 worth of easily replaced, theft insured things, I don't need to house them in a $20,000 safe.
How long does it take for a new house to burn? National research shows that lumber used in older homes could collapse within 15 to 20 minutes, while construction materials used in new homes can fail within four to six minutes.Feb 19, 2019
Any chance we will get to see how the True Safe holds up to a sledge hammer? (Our of curiosity). Also is there a manual override on the “Answer’s” key pad lock?
There is no key override on the "Answer". Batteries are replaced on the outside and if the lock mechanism inside the door fails while the door is closed and locked a locksmith will have to come out.
Why yes, yes you can. Fun fact, the Liberty Fatboy safe in the video with top cut off is 11 gauge steel. The safe they are advertising is 12 gauge. Should actually be a little easier to cut theirs. I really can't stand the deception some companies will use to move their own products. Build a honest quality product, show its capabilities and there is no need to bash your competitors to sell your stuff.
You are correct. We can cut almost any safe in half. Because of the weight and design, we are able to make the answer cabinets shallower. This allows you to place them in discreet locations in your home. Secrecy is the best security. See our article "4 places you should store guns in your home" www.secureitgunstorage.com/the-four-places-in-your-home-you-must-store-firearms/
@@TomKubiniec-SecureitIf it is so easy to “cut almost any safe in half”…does your 12 ga. Answer Safe/Cabinet provide any more practical security for its contents than your lighter gauge/weight less expensive Agile cabinets? Is there any practical advantage to your Answer 12ga cabinets?
I am curious about details comparing the Answer 8 cabinet to the Agile 52. It only appears the be larger and welded (and heavier), but is it any more "secure". Could you just cut through it with a simple saw.
Any metal can be cut through with an electric saw, the right blades, and time. This one is 12 gauge steel verses 14 for the Agile, which is a bit over 2.8 times stronger. If you have an alarm system and a decent response time, this is a great product IMO. I wish they had it at the time I bought my 52, as I would have bought this instead. If you need to sustain an attack over a long period of time, a concrete composite safe like the True Safe is the way to go. With my job, I'm very knowledgeable regarding safes.
Steel is cut like butter with modern power tools. There are a lot of videos demonstrating how easily steel residential security cabinets can be cut. The “Answer” basically gives you a functional residential security cabinet without the fluffy gimmicks of other, “safes” at a fraction of the weight. It will probably perform as well as any other “safe” made with a steel exterior... of course you could buy the 1500lbs safe with AR 500 steel exterior with a stainless liner (reduces effectiveness of blow torches) however you are going to pay a minimum of $5,000 for a small safe and probably upward of $10,000 for a larger, more secure cabinet. At that point you might as well get the True Safe that is filled with concrete. IMO, the Answer is the functional value purchase. A competitively priced steel security cabinet that can actually be moved should the need arise.
@@MikeEHY Mike, I agree, with the addition that thicker hardened steel is more difficult and time consuming to cut through than thinner. Most people robbing your house will not be bringing power tools, but small pry bars. I'd absolutely bet on the Answer holding up to such an attack. Power tools are used in targeted attacks when they know what you have. The safe or cabinet should also be the last layer in your security "onion". When I need to add some capacity this will likely be the next addition.
Paul Schlaffer my concern is more with in-home power tools in the garage or basement that the burglar would have relatively easy access to. That being said, my understanding is that burglars rarely spend more than 15 minutes burglarizing the home.
@@MikeEHY Yes, I've thought of the same thing. What I did was to lock up the blades for my Saw Max. If someone breaks in they could access the tool, but not the cutting blades.
I heard you’re products are made in China, so I am going to go with a different company. I was looking at the answer 12 safe, if it’s made in the USA I’ll buy one.
So your thinner 12ga Answer Safe is harder to cut through than the 11ga Liberty you are criticizing? LOL! If you going to buy a non fire safe, you can buy a 7ga Sturdy Safe for $2,000! 7ga is twice as thick as 12ga! For $2,700 you can get 4ga body and 2ga door that is 60x32x24.
But it won't have Secureit's nifty organization system built-in, that alone has got to be at least $1,000-$1,200 of the cost of the "Answer" maybe more on this double door. So your getting a real good deal here :D
You need to make a 72” double door around 56” wide and you will have a real product for guys like me. All these 8 gun RSC are crap! I had 8 guns when I was 13yo. I need something that can fit a good amount of firearms. Hell, make a 70”x72”26-27” and you will have a product!
I guess you didn't get the memo, the solution for having more guns than can fit in one of the Secureit cabinets is to buy more cabinets. That's the sole reason why the Agile line is stackable.
Is this an RSC rated or a t15 rated? Also can a S&G Mechanical Lock be Installed? I really like the 50 cal proof Brown Tactical Safe. Its a TL30 and not an rsc. Wished there was a $2500 TL15 or 30 safe out there for high security. Im a mechanic and if i can break in thats good enough not to buy.
I asked an owner of the "Answer" about it's rating. It had NONE what so ever, apparently Secureit has a video or article on why they think ratings don't matter. I haven't seen a rating for the "TRUE Gun Safe" posted anywhere either, it likely doesn't have one as well. Even the most expensive safe isn't impenetrable. If someone wants in and has time and resources they'll get in. A safe just buys you time for the backup (police) to arrive. If the backup never comes not even TL-30's 30 minutes of resistance can save you.
This product is cheap, It screams.........GET A LARGE PRY BAR AND YOU ARE IN ! What is funny is the guy cuts through a liberty safe to show how cheap it is, yet he does not cut open the Secure it cabinet. WTF?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to take a guess and say you're using hardiebacker or some form of tile backer board in the True safe. Not knocking it, just guessing that's the case. Hardiebacker is a concrete composite board filled with fiberglass typically used in the construction industry to install tile floors. A sledge hammer won't do anything to sheet steel. Let alone Steel with a concrete composite filling. Seems like it would be a good alternative to Drywall as Drywall is definitely no good for this application.. my 2cents. I do like the safes and think it's the best thing going.
No, The true safe is double walled steel filled with a cement composite material that is "poured" in. It must cure. These safe go through a 30 day curing heated treatment that allows the fill to set up properly and remove the moisture.
I will trust my USA Liberty over that thin POS any day of this week or next.... That thing would be so easy to get into, with the right tools it ain't even funny..... Anyone thinking this thing would secure your valuables you better think again!
@@thetacticalaccountant - Do you think you can come in someone's house, and do that before someone notices or there alarm goes off ?? If you think that, you are down right stupid... I know damn well I don't care if I was gone for 3 days, you could not and would not make it out of my house if you tried.... Just saying
@@SecureItGunStorage Fast Box 52, energizer battery installed late July. 5 or 6 easy opens 3 where i had to enter the code a couple times and adjust the handle just right. The key is the only thing that works reliably, but i dont keep my keys by my bedside, they defeat the purpose and I cannot leave a key near it. A mechanical lock would be ideal in all situations. I have another locker but it works better and will get a mechanical lock soon.
“Answer” has to be the worst name I’ve ever heard for a gun cabinet… and it actually says “Answer” on the cabinet door hahaha. These guys need help with their marketing department. Otherwise cool products.
You guys keep talking about how others gun safe faulty claims and misconceptions but skipping how your secureit Agile and Answer model stack up against the competitions in an event of thief attack with prying bars and power tool, how about do a test to see if your produce really any better!
Every other safe company on the planet would love to tell you about the specs and science behind their products. This dude is just like trust me, I'm not going to provide you any facts but trust me.
The first sign that it's a POS, digital keypad! What are the ratings? Does this fall under residential? Is it UL listed? It weighs 1300 lb you will need professional movers? Bahahahaha
Tom, you say in one of your replies below that it is easy to “cut almost any safe in half”…does your 12 ga. Answer Safe/Cabinet provide any more practical security for its contents than your lighter gauge/weight, less expensive Agile cabinets? Is there any practical advantage to your Answer 12ga cabinets over your Agile cabinets?
I live in a suburban neighborhood with a 4 minute response time. Watched my neighbor have a gasoline/small engine accident on the side of his 60's split level. in 4 minutes the attic was fully engaged and by the time the department had water on it was about 15 minutes. Basically burned to the ground. Burning carpet & mattresses in an insulated space get going way higher than 1200. Add some petroleum and cans of paint etc and it gets pretty exciting. Get the lightweight safe and a good homeowners policy. I have the Costco special. It is not going with me to the next house. I will get a small paperwork safe and one of these lighter safes when I move.
You are constantly making new products to fill market gaps that stand true to your original ideals on firearm storage. Great work.
I would like to see a video on a burglary test on the TRUE gun safe !
It would be nice to see a pry test performed on your products. Your cabinets are obviously lighter, how would this affect a few burglars with pry bars or grinders? I know the True safe is very secure, but what are the cabinets capable of withstanding?
yea they basically just talk about the faults of the other safes but doesn't want to go into details of their own products that we want him to go into details about lol. I'm definitely interested in the Answer safe but need more info on the security aspect rather than the features.
THIS is the reason I have not bought one yet. I love the concept, but how does it stand up to abuse? There are no videos of anyone testing it. That's great they got a military contract, but that really doesn't tell us anything as consumers. You listening SecureIt?! Do a pry test/abuse test and if you product stands up at all then you will sell out for the modulatory offerings alone. My gut tells me they don't do these test because it will pry right open. A cabinet that you have to assemble yourself doesn't seem like it could withstand it.
He said he would but maybe they did it and said not a good idea
I looked at your web sit a day or so ago and the True Safe was not there or I was not able to find it. Is
Secure It Gun Storage company not making the True Safe anymore?
True safe 4000 dollars. Comparing it to a 1300 dollar safe is not realistic. You make a great product. No need to go after other safe companies. I've been to many break-in attempts on all sorts of safes. Liberty's did fine on fire and pry attempts. I've only seen one safe cut open. The alarm wasn't set and the thief's had plenty of time to cut it open. Most break in attempts are smash and grab under 10 min. I've also seen a liberty presidential survive a complete burn down industrial complex fire. Everything inside was fine. The lower end safes you sell can be carried away or preyed open in minutes.
I get that its marketing and sales in the gun safe world. But I think a lot of people who can afford the real deal end up going a bad route from the poor marketing. If your the typical guy "x" with 5 or more AR build having 4+ in each one along with some long rifles and everything else in between and all the typical stuff you keep safe in a safe. Then you should be shopping for a safe looking at weight first. So guy X buys a 1500 pound safe when he should have bought a 5800 pound safe. The way I looks at it why not spend the price of a new motorcycle on a safe vs trading a motor cycle and wasting money on another one when your leaving mega value in a cheap safe.
@@jeffstrains4014 Not everyone has a place for a 5,800 lb safe. And how much does it cost anyway? There's two sides of the coin, the people who buy too cheap of a safe, and the people that go overboard. Only the thin edge of people get a safe that's appropriately scaled to the value of things they keep in it and the risks posed to the items inside the safe. If I have $10,000 worth of easily replaced, theft insured things, I don't need to house them in a $20,000 safe.
Not to mention the premium they are charging for being made in China
How long does it take for a new house to burn?
National research shows that lumber used in older homes could collapse within 15 to 20 minutes, while construction materials used in new homes can fail within four to six minutes.Feb 19, 2019
Will the bolts on the doors hold up if anyone was trying to pry the door open and how thick is the steel that is connected to the bolts?
Any chance we will get to see how the True Safe holds up to a sledge hammer? (Our of curiosity).
Also is there a manual override on the “Answer’s” key pad lock?
There is no key override on the "Answer". Batteries are replaced on the outside and if the lock mechanism inside the door fails while the door is closed and locked a locksmith will have to come out.
Can't find any True Safe sales. Sorry to miss the sale on lockers.
Congrats on your contract!
If you can simply drill a hole and bolt a cabinet through and mount on top...can you saw cut the top like the Liberty safe in the scene?
Why yes, yes you can. Fun fact, the Liberty Fatboy safe in the video with top cut off is 11 gauge steel. The safe they are advertising is 12 gauge. Should actually be a little easier to cut theirs.
I really can't stand the deception some companies will use to move their own products. Build a honest quality product, show its capabilities and there is no need to bash your competitors to sell your stuff.
You are correct. We can cut almost any safe in half. Because of the weight and design, we are able to make the answer cabinets shallower. This allows you to place them in discreet locations in your home. Secrecy is the best security. See our article "4 places you should store guns in your home" www.secureitgunstorage.com/the-four-places-in-your-home-you-must-store-firearms/
Lol @@Silarous! Good thing you don’t have to slag liberty!
@@TomKubiniec-SecureitIf it is so easy to “cut almost any safe in half”…does your 12 ga. Answer Safe/Cabinet provide any more practical security for its contents than your lighter gauge/weight less expensive Agile cabinets? Is there any practical advantage to your Answer 12ga cabinets?
I am curious about details comparing the Answer 8 cabinet to the Agile 52. It only appears the be larger and welded (and heavier), but is it any more "secure". Could you just cut through it with a simple saw.
Any metal can be cut through with an electric saw, the right blades, and time. This one is 12 gauge steel verses 14 for the Agile, which is a bit over 2.8 times stronger.
If you have an alarm system and a decent response time, this is a great product IMO. I wish they had it at the time I bought my 52, as I would have bought this instead. If you need to sustain an attack over a long period of time, a concrete composite safe like the True Safe is the way to go. With my job, I'm very knowledgeable regarding safes.
Steel is cut like butter with modern power tools. There are a lot of videos demonstrating how easily steel residential security cabinets can be cut.
The “Answer” basically gives you a functional residential security cabinet without the fluffy gimmicks of other, “safes” at a fraction of the weight.
It will probably perform as well as any other “safe” made with a steel exterior... of course you could buy the 1500lbs safe with AR 500 steel exterior with a stainless liner (reduces effectiveness of blow torches) however you are going to pay a minimum of $5,000 for a small safe and probably upward of $10,000 for a larger, more secure cabinet. At that point you might as well get the True Safe that is filled with concrete.
IMO, the Answer is the functional value purchase. A competitively priced steel security cabinet that can actually be moved should the need arise.
@@MikeEHY Mike, I agree, with the addition that thicker hardened steel is more difficult and time consuming to cut through than thinner. Most people robbing your house will not be bringing power tools, but small pry bars. I'd absolutely bet on the Answer holding up to such an attack. Power tools are used in targeted attacks when they know what you have. The safe or cabinet should also be the last layer in your security "onion". When I need to add some capacity this will likely be the next addition.
Paul Schlaffer my concern is more with in-home power tools in the garage or basement that the burglar would have relatively easy access to. That being said, my understanding is that burglars rarely spend more than 15 minutes burglarizing the home.
@@MikeEHY Yes, I've thought of the same thing. What I did was to lock up the blades for my Saw Max. If someone breaks in they could access the tool, but not the cutting blades.
I mean he ain't lying...always questioned if the traditional gun safe was even worth it
Wait whats the fire rating if the mk12 pro
where are these made?
China
Do you still sell the true safe? I don't see it on your website
Will somebody be able to pry that safe open?
why does it feel like I'm being scolded by the older dude.
because he really hates drywall
I heard you’re products are made in China, so I am going to go with a different company. I was looking at the answer 12 safe, if it’s made in the USA I’ll buy one.
Is it California DOJ approved?
Professionals can get in the true safe vary easily with a black box or drilling the same way a locksmith does.
The True Safe has a few re-lock features and drill plates that make very difficult to breach. A lock smith would have to call us for help.
So your thinner 12ga Answer Safe is harder to cut through than the 11ga Liberty you are criticizing? LOL!
If you going to buy a non fire safe, you can buy a 7ga Sturdy Safe for $2,000!
7ga is twice as thick as 12ga! For $2,700 you can get 4ga body and 2ga door that is 60x32x24.
But it won't have Secureit's nifty organization system built-in, that alone has got to be at least $1,000-$1,200 of the cost of the "Answer" maybe more on this double door. So your getting a real good deal here :D
Need to compare to Vault Pro, Gaffunder, Ft Knox Sturdy and Rino. Liberty safes are nothing but marketing.
LOL...I laugh at the irony in that statement, I only know of Secureit because of their marketing.
You need to make a 72” double door around 56” wide and you will have a real product for guys like me. All these 8 gun RSC are crap! I had 8 guns when I was 13yo. I need something that can fit a good amount of firearms. Hell, make a 70”x72”26-27” and you will have a product!
I guess you didn't get the memo, the solution for having more guns than can fit in one of the Secureit cabinets is to buy more cabinets. That's the sole reason why the Agile line is stackable.
Please come out with a lighting system!
Is this an RSC rated or a t15 rated? Also can a S&G Mechanical Lock be Installed? I really like the 50 cal proof Brown Tactical Safe. Its a TL30 and not an rsc. Wished there was a $2500 TL15 or 30 safe out there for high security. Im a mechanic and if i can break in thats good enough not to buy.
I asked an owner of the "Answer" about it's rating. It had NONE what so ever, apparently Secureit has a video or article on why they think ratings don't matter. I haven't seen a rating for the "TRUE Gun Safe" posted anywhere either, it likely doesn't have one as well.
Even the most expensive safe isn't impenetrable. If someone wants in and has time and resources they'll get in. A safe just buys you time for the backup (police) to arrive. If the backup never comes not even TL-30's 30 minutes of resistance can save you.
This product is cheap, It screams.........GET A LARGE PRY BAR AND YOU ARE IN ! What is funny is the guy cuts through a liberty safe to show how cheap it is, yet he does not cut open the Secure it cabinet. WTF?
Please go into the science of it sir.
Lol🤓
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to take a guess and say you're using hardiebacker or some form of tile backer board in the True safe. Not knocking it, just guessing that's the case. Hardiebacker is a concrete composite board filled with fiberglass typically used in the construction industry to install tile floors. A sledge hammer won't do anything to sheet steel. Let alone Steel with a concrete composite filling. Seems like it would be a good alternative to Drywall as Drywall is definitely no good for this application.. my 2cents. I do like the safes and think it's the best thing going.
No, The true safe is double walled steel filled with a cement composite material that is "poured" in. It must cure. These safe go through a 30 day curing heated treatment that allows the fill to set up properly and remove the moisture.
I will trust my USA Liberty over that thin POS any day of this week or next.... That thing would be so easy to get into, with the right tools it ain't even funny..... Anyone thinking this thing would secure your valuables you better think again!
@@thetacticalaccountant - Do you think you can come in someone's house, and do that before someone notices or there alarm goes off ?? If you think that, you are down right stupid... I know damn well I don't care if I was gone for 3 days, you could not and would not make it out of my house if you tried.... Just saying
@@cexotic-man5289 Liberty safes are garbage. You got played pumpkin and purchased a beginner safe..lol. Get over yourself newbie.
@@JohnDoe-rq5bz - Awwww your just jealous you can't afford one. We understand you and your fake profile....
Sample the material show us wut the hammer do to it
Lightweight concrete? Concrete is concrete, you hit it with a sledge itll break apart.
Your locks suck
Would you please provide a mechanical option?
I get locked out of my safes regularly.
Which safe do you have? The Agiles all have mechanical override keys. And the biometric keypads have a usb-c port to plug in if your battery has died.
@@SecureItGunStorage Fast Box 52, energizer battery installed late July. 5 or 6 easy opens 3 where i had to enter the code a couple times and adjust the handle just right. The key is the only thing that works reliably, but i dont keep my keys by my bedside, they defeat the purpose and I cannot leave a key near it. A mechanical lock would be ideal in all situations. I have another locker but it works better and will get a mechanical lock soon.
“Answer” has to be the worst name I’ve ever heard for a gun cabinet… and it actually says “Answer” on the cabinet door hahaha.
These guys need help with their marketing department.
Otherwise cool products.
I can cut your best safe in about 2-5 minutes with a concrete saw. Don't act like it's impenetrable
You guys keep talking about how others gun safe faulty claims and misconceptions but skipping how your secureit Agile and Answer model stack up against the competitions in an event of thief attack with prying bars and power tool, how about do a test to see if your produce really any better!
Might not hold up better but doesn’t cost as much and it’s a way better product.
4:18 you just lied
Why are these being made in China?
This dude hates going into detail.
Every other safe company on the planet would love to tell you about the specs and science behind their products. This dude is just like trust me, I'm not going to provide you any facts but trust me.
Aren’t these safes made in China?
Yes
The first sign that it's a POS, digital keypad!
What are the ratings?
Does this fall under residential?
Is it UL listed?
It weighs 1300 lb you will need professional movers? Bahahahaha