They cut out all the BS! - GL.iNet Flint 2
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:12 First Look
2:31 Let's do some WiFi stuff
4:10 Cool VPN stuff
6:33 More cool VPN stuff, but with two routers
7:30 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
We need more network content with jake
Yes we do!
totally! i love this kinda stuff, dont really know much about it, understand half the things they talk but i enjoy it a lot
Agreed! Honestly Jake and these networking videos are the reason I am getting into networking right now. Just landed my first internship. We really do need more networking content!
New channel for just networking with jake
Get a life
Holy crap a high quality high performance no bs router/ap that comes with openWRT built in that isn't 700$+ incredible what a great product thanks for featuring it.
openWRT has an even better image to flash on top of it for some even more configuration changes
This is remarkable timing. We just bought this router two days ago and it showed up this morning.
Return it and buy it again with the discount!
Amazing. That how buying things works.
OpenWRT FTW
(EDIT: Note that this does run a custom version though)
It should be noted that it's their own firmware built on top of OpenWRT, not vanilla OpenWRT. My only gripe with the GL.iNet is that they market it as "OpenWRT" instead of "Built on OpenWRT", which is a big difference. Looking at GL.iNet's security updates, we can see that they have introduced a number of vulnerabilities in the past in their own code that do not exist in vanilla OpenWRT.
However, part of the reason this is such a strong product though is that if you want to be more security / privacy oriented with your device, you know for a fact the hardware is very compatible with vanilla OpenWRT and can upgrade from GL.iNet's firmware upgrade interface. This also makes the devices extremely reliable long term, and shows that this company's strength isn't really in their software, but rather their amazing hardware and its compatibility with FOSS projects. That is something that is truly unique and will continue to set this company apart from all of its competitors.
@@preston9239 Yes, I see a couple red flags with this company that makes me hesitate buying anything from them, one of which is what you mentioned above.
I'm sticking to MikroTik for now, but if they prove themselves trustworthy, or another company comes in and offers hardware made to run OpenWRT, I might switch over to that for home use--I would have to be seriously convinced otherwise for commercial.
For now, some MikroTik devices can run OpenWRT, but they really aren't built for that OS.
@@preston9239I personally owned a GL.iNet router for a while. It did DNS things we could not explain, and misbehaved in odd ways frequently. I bought it thinking I was getting OpenWRT, just like most of their customers. What I got was something I was unable to take full ownership of due to the modifications, and it actively caused issues with our internet. I absolutely would not recommend a GL.iNet device for anyone concerned with personal information securty or having full control of their equipment. I'm actively disappointed to see it so openly sponsored by this channel.
@@preston9239 Fun fact: you can still access the "default" OpenWrt UI if you really want, they didn't even try to hide it. There's a nice link at the bottom of the menu to get to it.
@@preston9239 They push device support to openwrt last i checked though, so you can flash normal openwrt on it.
Jake cable managed WiFi.😮
6:01 that cat is the most compelling argument against ad block i’ve ever heard
GL.iNet makes some good stuff. Good to see they make a "regular" router as they kept making cool, but specialty travel routers and other devices. Their Puli (GL-XE300) saved my ass as there is not much out there for a SIM router, with a battery and ethernet port.
For Me, it's the Spitz-AX (GL-X3000), I was searching for a good alternative Router to my Current, that has less BS and no False advertisements. The Spitz literally was out just for a few Weeks to this Point where I was buying it. It was Pricey but after now nearly a Year of everyday Usage, I can say, I will never ever go back to a Company that provides you with their own Router-BS. If you're searching for a Double SIM Router, the Spitz-AX is your Device.
Yep, agreed! I’ve been using the Flint 1 for 3 years now and it’s been solid. I’ve only had to reboot it once cuz I screwed up the settings by mistake.
I switched all my routers at home to them. Openwrt by default is amazing and they have decent hardware given the price
I got the GL-X3000 because I wasn't able to get fibre to my house but that with a sim was getting 500-800mb and the Comms company was offering us an LTE router for like 90 a month when our unlimited sim was 15
Just checked out here in India, damn it's very expensive here
I would love Jake to do a Guide about all the network lingo and what are all the protocols, settings and how to open ports, how to forward, setup servers etc. IT was always black magic for me and would love to learn!
Openwrt and adguard home, and a decent lan interface with an actual usable 2.5gig port. This seems pretty banger for $200
its $127.20 with promocode 20MT6000 and free shipping
Yeah. I'm looking for a outer for my Starlink and I think this might work well. I have a shitty $$ router laying around from days past which reduces the speed to double digit numbers just below 20Mbps. It's terrible
i got this router months ago because of another product they reviewed and i love it. i did have a couple issues with an earlier firmware but it has been rock solid since.
Jake always does a really great solid review on networking products, more content with Jake please!
I know ithis is an ad, but this one is actually selling me on it and I'm in the market for a new router. Doesnt happen often, so good job!
I'm not even in the market for a new router and I want it. Pretty much every single feature on this thing is my ideal router at a reasonable price. I'm shocked. Will keep this company on my radar for sure when it's time to upgrade
I bought the last GL.iNet router I saw on the channel (the Beryl-AX I think it's called). I absolutely love it. It's only WiFi 6, not 6E or 7, but for like... $80 I think I paid for it, so worth it.
I picked one of these up because I saw it on openwrt's hardware list and it has good specs for a wifi router and it even has a vanilla openwrt package from the manufacturer that was release a couple days ago.
I ordered one of these very recently and have been using it for a month or so and the range I'm getting from the 5Ghz network is just crazy; like well beyond 300 feet AFTER going thru multiple walls.
Shout out to Jake on this video. Straight to the point, identifies what is and isn’t important in a router and shares his thoughts on the product. Excellent.
Been watching Jake since the days when he was in the position that Elijah is now, new to the team and viewers. It’s awesome to see how far he’s come and how much he’s developed both his on camera comfort level and his knowledge over the years.
Also thanks for the comments on Wireguard…it made me check it out. My Asus router supports it now so set it up (was easy) and did a speed comparison vs my OpenVPN connection. My connection went from 30mbps to 120 mbps just by switching to wireguard over a weak 4G signal.
not gonna lie, this video has actually made me want to buy one. it looks perfect and extremely user friends.
I've been using the Flint 1 almost since it launched and it's been the best wifi router ever. And their support was extremely nice when I f*ed up my config too badly and had to figure out issues with my IPv6, their support went to the deep end to help diagnose.
I have had the Flint 2 for about 8months now and LOVE it!
A little bit of help please? So idk anything about this stuff. I have a router from a provider (company that sells phone numbers etc.) and I pay monthly for it. If I buy one of these routers like in the video, does that mean I have internet without monthly payments. Like a one time payment and that's it, it just makes internet for me?
@@m_xx989 No you pretty much always have a payment. you just might not have to rent a router from them.
Good question, but no, you still need a provider to give you internet no matter where you are in the world. A company has to route your internet traffic.
@@micah560 so what's the point of this thing? When I buy internet from a provider I get a router from them, why would I buy this
@@m_xx989 It might make your internet faster if the one they give you is trash, or if you want to do stuff like this VPN that this/other routers support but your ISP's probably doesn't.
I have Flint 1, Slate and Slate AX. Absolutely love GL-inet! ❤ Simplest UI with tonnes of features and options and solid performance over the years! 💪
I have been using their travel routers and have been very happy with them. Part of some thing I did last year was hot gluing on some magnets to do just that. Now I can stick them to the side of speakers etc.
I used a little GL iNet router in my internship last summer and it was genuinely great. Very curious to look into this one for my upcoming apartment!
heyo thanks for the tutorial-review! really well spoken and props to the editors for highlighting important parts of this video, love learning more about possibilities of running home servers :)
I would love to see Jake do a home router setup video… what is really needed for the average gamer? What hardware is ideal, and what settings should be ignored/used…
I love GL.iNet products. Been using/selling them at work as mini VPN boxes for a couple of years. No bloat, open source, no fluff. Works well.
I use their travel router as gateway at home with external WiFi AP and as travel router while traveling. Magnificent.
Perfect timing. I'm moving offices next month and looking for a router, but not looking to do a whole Ubiquiti setup like I have at home. This is perfect for my small office space.
Love GL.iNets routers. Got one of the mango mini routers a few years back on a killer Amazon sale. It's an awesome pocket size low power travel router with VPN client capabilities. The app makes things super fast to switch up between locations
I usually don't even click on these fully sponsored things, but I've been a fan of GL.iNet since I first bought that yellow mango thing. A while back I thought... what would be great? a big travel router with more performance, ports and multiple antennae. I might consider this :D just too bad that the antennae doesn't seem to be removable. I am helping someone with connectivity inside an RV and it would have been great to be able to mount the antennae outside the vehicle.
I have the first Flint running a Wiregard server 24/7 for more than a year now. Have a few of their travel routers too. They are all good bank for the buck.
Have the Slate AX running right now on my holiday. It’s awesome. Connected the router once with the hotel network (with the captive portal to accept some terms) and connected all my devices to my Slate. They make great products in a variety of price ranges
I own several of their products. Hardware wise, they are great. I cant get passed the made in china and the use an out dated version of OpenWRT. I just reflash the router with a supported version of OpenWRT and they work GREAT. Probably the most stable WIFI and router setup ive used; outside of enterprise deployments.
Thank you for pointing out it is made in China. I was considering buying it. Nobody should be sending any money to China.
@@Magnum.Bloodstone i ran a linksys wrt54gl WAY back, one of the first routers that was supported w/ FOSS firmware.. guess where it was made? CHINA. i recently ordered their beryl AX travel router. it's fully supported by openwrt, so you can reflash it if you like. any OSS firmware router is going to be miles ahead of your router / modem you're renting from your ISP, which is also likely to be manufactured in CHINA. but wait, there's more, your isp modem comes with fully backdoored firmware compliments of NSA & Uncle Sam, firmware which the ISP completely controls and you are unable to modify, update, or replace yourself. all those router modems that are "certified" by your ISP to work on their network that you can buy and own yourself? yeah.. they also cannot have open source firmware installed on them. i will always have a made in CHINA, open source firmware router between my network and any ISP certified modem.. otherwise you are just handing over the keys to your home LAN to mass surveillance / five eyes.
Chinese are recently finding out that if they just make hardware for open source software people will love it. A recent mention is the Sovol SV08 - 3D printer which is fully open source.
Great timing; switching to fiber and need to redo everything so this is on the shortlist now.
Just picked one of these Flint 2's up about 2 weeks ago. Great stuff you want for a pretty dang good prices versus the competition.
Oh damn! I bought this router just last week
Nooooo. The coupon!
I have this one and a Beryl Mini. It's awesome. Using a whole home Mullvad VPN getting like 600-800 mbps down. And 5G usb Modem for failover. Everything just works. Can't speak to the wifi performance I use enterprise aps
I had hoped to see mention of features for network storage - things like what versions of SMB does it support, ftp access, etc.
WiFi 6E/7 from them would be amazing
This is amazing, bought it Tuesday, exactly what i was looking for.
Nice PAX West 23 shirt. I got that and the collectors jacket last year. Being 80s baby, I loved the VHS theme
Perfect timing. I was looking for a router and I was recently poking around openwrt. This is perfect
I have been wanting the MCM ARCHES for a while for my home rack but always forget to order. I now have to sets on the way thanks Jake LOL!🤣
I was actually watching this one the other day and I'm really into it. Maybe the other ones that are portable, they seem great for my needs.
So glad you guys were able to get Caleb Hammer to host this one
When we got 2Gb Hybrid Fibre internet where I live, our ISP said they would provide us with an appropriate router, which I thought would save me having to spend a ton of money on a router. They provided me with one that had a single 2.5Gb port. So I bought one of these and connected the second port to a 5Gbe Network switch.
These routers are absolutly fantastic.
One thing I found with it that I wish Jake had covered was the WiFi range on it. I live in a brick-built house. I set the WiFi signal strength to "low" and I can still connect to our WiFi network from 60ft away, down the street.
Never mind your ISP saying they guarentee coverage across your whole home using mesh pods they will provide. Just get one of these routers.
I can't recommend these things ennough. They are worth the money and they are the simplest routers in the world to set up.
I love open wrt. Did a 80 meter w-lan connection 20 years ago between a house and a barn with it, for less then 200$.
Perfect timing for a review. Bought this router after the no bs claim and yes. No bs. Works as described 12/10. Thanks Jake
I was thinking about this! Just ordered one, thanks. You convinced me, all hail Jake reviews.
Arrived today from Amazon (thanks for the coupon notification). I was able to pre-code my DHCP IP reservations in the MT-6000, swapped it out the old router and all my home-lab servers/devices just connected... no reconfiguration of Home Page, scripts, bookmarks, etc. Up and running in 20min. DDNS plugin supports a wide range of DDNS providers too. Nice product.
Ok wow im definitely sold. I just be rocking tp link but am in the market to actually set up a proper home network. This guy is gonna be my first step.
Bad first step. If you want to setup a proper home network, start by building your own OPNsense/PFsense router.
You would have to take a look at some mikrotik products, you will probably be blown away at the price/what you get ratio, plus is fully customizable, like, nothing is locked down on anything
i use this brand for over 4 y and i will never go back to my old favorite(asus). the freedom and reliability of these and the multiple models they have(including pocket/travel ones) is great and the price is great
Got one after watching this video (no to Cox's absurd $15/month rent). First 30 minutes a lot of frustration, could not even reset it. But now it works like a charm. Even got WireGuard set up (but for this I had to watch one of the GL.iNet's support videos). Still do not get what the AdGuard does, because it does not block TH-cam ads. Nevertheless, so far so good. And BTW, it is on sale right now.
Will buy once they released one with wifi 6E
After picking up one of their travel routers, I'm sold on their products, its awesome, yes you can do all these things on a Raspberry Pi, but their polished products are just better in all meaningful ways and they are not expensive.
I like these routers. They support the USB tethering from iOS devices. I have the Beryl AX mini one. I love it.
I have the ax beryl. Awesome for traveling. Can connect to the hotel wifi in Toronto. And also worked in Asia.
Waiting for them to make a wifi 7 router.
I have the Flint 1 and love it.
I have been using a glinet slate for years, I love their interface
I initially wanted this router, but as far as I could see it only supports one VPN client in the stock firmware. I'm running 5-6 different clients to different countries for different streaming content, and to avoid TH-cam ads. Asus Merlin was the best reasonable prices choice.
I went for a Flint 2 when I moved into my own house and got gigabit fibre a few weeks ago, I couldn't be more pleased. Wanted something with at least 2x 2.5Gbps ports, as well as an easy to use management UI and WiFi 6, this fit the bill perfectly. No QoS on the built in control panel which would've been a bit of a bummer if I didn't have fibre, but not a worry for me for now, plus I bet I could add that with it being Open WRT based.
Only thing I couldn't figure out was seeing what speed had been negotiated for each LAN/WAN port, nothing on the UI.
I have this and the travel one, great little team
I have their Travel router, it's in my Tech bag i use it ALOT !
Getting mine delivered tomorrow 👍
The Slate AX portable is amazing; would recommend!
Sure is. I have a couple of them for travel and they’re insanely good.
I have the flint 1, it has been excellent. WIFI 7 + 4*2.5g for Flint 3!
LOL! been looking at these dudes products for a couple years wondering if i should get 1 and only just noticed and watched the beryl review you did... Then i see this 1 too 😂😬
Imidiatly ordered one with their discount. Been looking for a new fast router
Kinda sus that they didn't want you to test speed/distance. Kinda the only thing that matters.
I had the original Flint and got the Flint 2 on launch day. Amazing reach with even more amazing signal strengh. Dont know why they didnt test or just didnt mention it. There really is nothing to hide. And OpenWRTis just the best!
except speed and distance depends on the environment you are in, so any measurements somebody does in their area will not be very representative of what you will experience, and only measurements done in your specific environment. This is why we test with a small deployment of AP's to see how the coverage is and if any issues occur, before commiting to a full setup in a commercial setting.
@@awesomestuff9715 Yes, but you can do a very simple thing to account for that, which is to compare it to other routers in the same environment.
@@ianwakers The last thing a new company with limited resource wants to do is call out the competition.. This was a sponsored video. AKA commercial... The simple fact is speed and range issues are usually because of user error in failing to read the instructions about proper placement and assuming that on the floor behind the TV under 4 power cables is not a big deal.
@@KeithZim Well that's not true. The hardware and antenna arrangement are the biggest factors regardless of placement. You can set everything up perfectly but if your router has a 2x2 setup it's not gonna do very well with multiple devices connected to it.
"My child is a cat" that makes me wanna support more than if you had an actual kid
I have 3 pcs. It looks like I could connect all 3 and be happy. Might try hooking the tv to it. The vpn part sounds interesting too.
Honestly add 1-2 security/door cams to their product line w/ safe storage and I'd convert over immediately!
This is an awesome router
I love my Slate travel router. I bought it for the solar eclipse but I freaking underestimated it
I really love the Gl Inet product line. I think I have 7 of their devices now 😂. But I really need them to come out with the x3000 5G with an nvme slot for mobile nas 😂
Jake is just fantastic
I use a basic TP-Link Archer for network control and VDSL link, then use an eap 225 access point do do the wifi
If this had VDSL I'd maybe buy it
I love it!!! I want one... 😅
Using Flint 1 since 2022 and never disappointed. Now looking for Flint 2 to see if it's worth to upgrade and found your review. I think I'll upgrade because my internet speed soon will pass 1 gbit and I'll add NAS server to my home newtork
Jake forgot to mention that you can access the OpenWRT UI also, unlocking even more features.
You also can connect to a hotel wifi and have your own subnet.
Jake or LTT should do a video "the all Ubiquiti store setup"
Suggestion for those considering,
get this or the travel ver,
then pair it with UCG Ultra from ubiquity, for both adblocking AND IDS IPS [ unifi doesnt support custom adblock lists so meh ]
and you can reuse eitther Flint 2 as wireless itself or AP to UCG,
what a time to be alive in the networking space
I have this already and it's the only router I found under $1k that guaranteed the features I needed which seems to be basic. Apartment forces me to use their wireless router so I have the WAN setup via Wifi. Then I have both 2.5g set to LAN mode so my own computer and server are hooked up at 2.5g speeds. I couldn't find any other router that could do something like that.
OpenVPN is indeed single threaded but nowadays there is DCO (Data Channel Offload) available that should enhance performance since it does the heavy lifting on the kernel side.
In Germany we say: "Mir kommt nichts ins Haus außer eine Fritz Box!"
fritz is okay, nothing special many better choices
@@jesperkuipers9432if you go for a modem / router combo no, not really. And even if not there's not a whole lot with an ui / ux that good and long support.
@@jesperkuipers9432any good DSL modem options?
@@CrisCheese_ no experience with, in the Netherlands we need ISP router in bridge mode to convert coax or fiber into rj45
Actually fritz is decent
I absolutely heart my Synology RT2600AC, it's old but it's so incredibly stable and easy to use.
I had one. Concur. Only thing is it doesn’t run WireGuard.
My cheapo Fritzbox does VPN and DDNS or Wireguard as well.
Just to note, it does have your typical parental controls without a subscription, but you can also turn on BARK for the extra stuff.
Also, if you have less than a 1gig connection, the flint 1 is still an awesome router for around half the price
Wow, I was literally just thinking about how cool it would be if it could just connect to a tailscale network. AND THEN IT DOES
Wait, what? Arlo is Sarah's cat, no?
Also, gl.inet kit is so cute. I've deployed the ar150 as an AP after poking pineapple stuff into it for funsies, mt300 sitting in the box still and an ar750 running umurmur (mumble server) . Great kit
Dang, if I had known about this a few months ago, I definitely wouldn't have spent the same amount of money for my TP-Link AXE5400. Two 2.5Gb WAN/LAN is a major selling point at this price range.
This is so good! I'm fully committed to the Unifi ecosystem at this point, but if I was looking to set up an apartment or a normie friend's network? It would be this thing. Good job!!
Woah i literally JUST got this router!
This router does not come with SQM built-in. The company has specified we would need to install it through Luci.
I absolutely love this and was going to get it untill i remembered wifi 7 speeds... Might need to wait😭
I'm just vibin to the song. Bit pop-y. Nice.
I've grown quite fond of GL.iNet for traveling. It really does WiFi good.
Would REALLY love to know if this router has any issues with buffer bloat or has good QoS/some magical, better evolution of the tech.
Surprised you didn't venture into bufferbloat/Cake and Layered Cake QoS. One of the great features of openwrt.
favourite router brand yessssss
£135 - good price but this certainly had a great many issues on release and would need to check to see if a firmware upgrade fixed them.