Dallas had a great year. Disappointed it stopped in the same place as last year. It really seems as though they need more physicality. Vegas, Colorado, and Edmonton all played this team hard physically and it seemed to take a toll. Regarding Suter and Lundkvist, I would rather see Petrovic and if Bichsel can make the line up. Want Tanev back in this roatation. Think Sam Steel would be great to bring back for bottom six. Doubt this team can do anything about Benn, Seguin, or Suter. The contracts are just there. Look forward to the offseason and want to see this team excel in 2025.
Agree, sort of. The Stars have gotten bigger and more physical each year, and competed better vs the bigger more physical teams like Vegas. We ABSOLUTELY dished Vegas as much or more than they could dish us, this year. But we also WATCHED Colorado and Edmonton skate circles around our net. You cannot get much bigger or more physical without risking getting SWEPT by smaller faster teams in the playoffs. Its a balance, and they are close to perfect ALREADY. Also: We were GASSED in the WCF, and it showed. Who gets gassed quicker? The big beefy guys who burn more energy just to move all that weight, or the small, quick guys with endless stamina? You know the answer. Again, it's a balance and too big is a loser as much as too small is. We are right where we need to be. So why did we lose? Well you always want a mix of Veterans and Kids, but our Veterans are getting too old. They didn't produce. And we can across the board replace them with kids, because, at this point, Guys like Miro, Hintz, and Robertson AREN'T the kids anymore - they are the veterans! Shorter version: A mix of YOUNGER veterans and kids will be better next year, than our current mix of OLDER veterans and kids was. The only part that really hurts is not seeing Pavelski get a Cup here. I hope he gets a job in the organization, so he can still help us win a Cup in the future!
more physical aka bigger typically means slower. That is not what this team needs. With a reliable 3rd pair the top 4 would not have looked so worn out in the WCF. Suter and Petrovic aren’t it.
This hurt alot.. it was a great season though. It hasn't been too rough as a stars fan going to the finals in 2020 and back to back conference finals the last 2 years. We could have it alot worse. The Stars will be back. I trust the organization in that they know the team is very close and they will make the proper moves to put themselves back in the hunt again next year. Cheers Shannon ! 🍻 🌟
I watched every Stars game in the playoffs. When they're off, they're off. But when they're playing good, they rank easily amongst the top teams in the league. Agree: this team is facing a great future.
Their drafting is quite possibly the best in the league. Hintz and Robertson were both second round picks; Johnston is looking like the best player in his draft class and they snagged him at 23rd; Perhaps they could have taken Makar instead of Heiskanen... but now that Heiskanen has arrived, it's not looking like much of a drop-off. Oettinger another amazing pickup through the draft. It's just too bad a lot of their big money vets are under-performing their contracts or looking old in the playoffs (Pavelski, Duchene, Suter). The whole "deepest team in the league" thing ain't no joke. But as their old guys run out their contracts, their young guys are going to end up taking most of that money and it's probably not going to leave them a lot of cap space to hire any superstars or anything... they'll just have to fill out the roster with solid depth guys. And as a result, they're not going to have the star power of teams like Colorado and Edmonton, who I can foresee giving them fits over the next 5 years.
As a Stars fan, we had plenty of depth, but that depth didnt show up in this Oilers series. Cant get blanked on the PP and then get shredded on the PK as well. Needed more from guys like Duchene, Roope, Pavelski, and Robertson. Disappointing end to the season. Id be shocked if we somehow miss the playoffs next season though.
@@muffpipe84 i agree, watching this series wasn't disappointing, it was weird and uncanny seeing the clear better team somehow not be the clear better team
I would be shocked if this team missed the playoffs next year. They need to tweak a few things with this lineup. Mostly becoming more physical would be good. I'm not sure if this team wins the Division or goes as far in the playoffs as the last 2 seasons, but i would be very surprised if they missed the playoffs altogether
The thing is, the PP is often a measure of your star power. Best PPs in the league are regularly Edmonton, Colorado and Tampa. Oh look I also just named 3 of the last 4 cup winners, and possibly 4 of the last 5 in 3 weeks from now. You can't underestimate the impact of star power. Dallas has a really good team tho. They're just a little closer to the Vegas model than they are the Edmonton/Tampa/Colorado model. Perhaps if Benn came down with some major health issue that would put him on LTIR til April, that would be the layup the Stars would need to win a cup.
Still think Dallas had the most difficult opponents this year the two previous cup winners and then then a really good Oilers team. Rooting for Florida but wouldn’t be surprised if Edmonton won
Dallas reminds me of the 2013-2018 Capitals. They keep hitting a brick wall short of the cup, but eventually they will break through. However they will never win more than 1 cup if they do.
Its tough to beat the last 2 Cup winners in consecutive series and have nothing to show for it. In the end that might've been Dallas' downfall. Even though Edmonton played a tough series against Vancouver, I dont think anyone would argue they had a much easier time on their way to the Conference Finals. And more fortunate not having to face Demko. Having the core is the hard part but its clear the Stars already have that. Now they just need to put the right players around those guys. They'll def be back and I wouldn't be surprised to see them win a Cup in the next 3-5 years.
I agree, I think Dallas got a bad lineup after Vegas threw that final game in the regular season. I think had that not happened it would have been a Vegas vs Dallas western conference again. Oilers had it pretty easy, even Vancouver was not nearly as good as the Avalanche and Knights. Stars got Multiple injuries and were beaten down by long series while Oilers got a measure first series and an easier second series that was only pushed due to Skinner having poor games.
Looking forward to next season. The biggest eye opener in this series is that we need to get better playing and making passing decisions while being harassed. That needs to be a practice item that they hammer over and over again until players start building some comfort with it. Too many times we made terrible passes when Edmonton skaters got close to us and threatened our safe space/ bubble LOL. Harley needs to do better at supporting the attack. Over and over again he skated out of the offensive zone immediately without trying to keep pucks in the zone when you could clearly tell he would have been able to keep the puck in the zone. That screams "fear of making mistakes" and or lack of confidence. Finally the Stars NEED to embrace BIG HITS in the Playoffs. I saw way to many "love tap" hits against Edmonton and that probably helped Edmonton feel comfortable since they weren't worried about being laid out. Lets get the Cup in 2025. Go Stars!
He's definitely legit. Crazy that the Stars were able to pick him up in the 23rd spot. He's the number 1 point getter in his draft class as of the end of this season.
A step behind by a little bit is putting it generously. With all due respect to his great career, but Pavelski looked awful all playoffs. He was so much slower than almost everyone in all 3 rounds. And since he really only had way of scoring, it was really easy for opposition to shut him down. Thank god theres only 1 year left of suffering Suter. Letting Hakenpaa walk is also fine, ive seen enough of him as well. Duchene, take him or leave him. He had the big series winner in Colorado, and did good in the regular season but again kind of a no show when games mattered. Tanev... he played well but hes 34 and he gets hurt a lot. Wouldn't mind him staying at the right price but if another team overpays, its best to move on. As for Benn. Hes thankfully, only got 1 more year on that big contract. I dont mind him staying beyond that, at a much much lower price, but if he does... this year should be his last as Captain. Obviously, that's a delicate thing, but with 1 year remaining, now is the time to ask him respectfully to use this last year to transition to someone else. I think he made up for his insane stupidity last year against Vegas. But THG touched on it last night. I think of all the critical games where he just disappeared. The moment got too big for him, and it happened again last night. There's always talk of what a great leader he is, but that shrinking can be contagious to a locker room. To end on a positive the kids look great and hopefully they grow even more next season. Hopefully Lian also continues the streak of great draft picks. They may lack experience but they got that youthful heart that allows them to play without fear. Need more of that i think to take that next step.
It was a great season. Very proud of what they were able to accomplish this year. The future is insanely bright for this team with all these young guys coming in. Jim Nill is GM of the year winner for a reason. If this is indeed Pavs last year with this Stars and the NHL in general (which I think it will be) I'm very thankful that he was a part of this team. He was a huge part of their success. Can't wait for October. GO STARS!
With how well Jim Nill has drafted the trading a first for Niks Lundkvist is really a double whammy. The stars have really hit some home runs at the draft table recently.
What's frustrating is you can see Nils show flashes of excellence. And when he gets rattled, he just falls apart. It's like he's two different players. I don't blame Nill for taking the chance, even if I bitterly wish he didn't.
I don’t agree with the take that we can’t win with DeBoer. What I DO agree with is that we can’t win with Spott as our PP coach. That was undoubtedly the deciding factor in us losing to EDM.
I do think a big reason why Edmonton's PK has been so dominant all playoffs, is because Knoblauch is out-coaching the other coaches. So take that for what it's worth. If your coach got out-coached, then maybe he's not the guy.
@@Eirhead888 I think you’re on to something there. A big part of the loss was PDB not altering the game plan. Sure he changed up lines, but we never evolved past dumping the puck along the boards to exit the zone and trying to spring 1 man rushes into a 3 man trap defense. No adaptation.
@@sfgiants9725Stars played the ”1 player skates up while we airmail the puck to the offensive blueline” and when edmonton adapted to it having their C close that gap, stars had no room and started to turn the puck over
I always enjoy your videos man and thankfully this lifted my spirits after seeing them lose this series to Edmonton. Our future is bright and our time will come someday
It's a good place to be in when you have all your 1st round draft picks and you're expected to return as a Final Four team. They're not just a team of older veterans, which speaks to being well managed to staying up at the top for the long term. Speaking of which, this is traditionally the time of year when people ask, just like the last 6-7 years, if this is the last year for Joe Pavelski. I hope he comes back for one more season, so he can get to 500 goals.
"Wait 'til next year" gets really fast especially if next year never comes. Sure the Stars will still be good, but when will they take the next step to being great?
As a HUGE Minnesota Wild fan, it pains me to admit Dallas is going to be a contender for A WHILE. Gonna be lots of fun rivalry games in the future. Part of me hopes a lot of these young guys make it but the fan in me says I hope they go into a tail spin, not to wish bad on anybodys career, just against us haha.
I’m always slightly crushed when my team (not the Stars but I feel THG’s pain) is eliminated. For years, my team was the bond between my father and I. One of our only true connections to be honest. Then he died. And now when my team is eliminated, a bit of me dies. And I wonder how many more seasons do I have left to enjoy. Five? 15? One? Who knows. But time is passing and my window is closing.
sign tanev, work on special teams, thats what killed them, suter was ok defensively. i would let duch, and pavs move on. nils is a question mark.. i am proud of my stars.. it does feel like dallas was playing the entire country of canada . hats off to the oilers , they deserved to win. i saved and framed the paper from 99. what could i frame if they win it again? thx shannon, as always, for doing a great job of covering the sport i adore, and love.. go stars ...
Dallas are a very talented young team as Shannon mentioned, it's only a matter of time before they reach the Cup final again, Oilers were just a little more skilled and mature this year.
Possibly. They're going to be a strong team for a long time. But they'll probably need to catch some good luck, or lightning in a bottle to make another Cup Finals without the star power that exists on other teams.
I know the internet needs a fall guy, but this is a knee jerk reaction. we still got good defending from a banged up blue line, it was team scoring that fizzled the stats back it up, our playoffs goals against was pretty good (2.53 GA/GP), goals for was mediocre (2.74 GF/GP).
I really think we could see Edmonton and Dallas face off frequently in the Conference Finals for the next five years. I look forward to this becoming an intense rivalry.
As the playoffs wind down and you search for content ideas, I have a suggestion. I just watched your Iginla career video and thought what about a video on the best players that have never won a cup. IDK, just my 2 cents on a video idea.
I was so surprised that the Star lacked any physicality in their game. This is a far cry from the Stars of the past which would bulldoze anyone to get the job done. Not used to seeing them so passive in critical playoffs games.
I like very much your assessment about The Stars..Landing a high end veteran to succeed the aging ones ..GM has shown his acumen with this…translates to Benn and Seguin strictly as supporting cast what they can still offer as Duchene did this season..
Dallas is an amazing hockey team no doubt, but I think they struggled to make Edmonton uncomfortable snd force them off their main game plan later in the series. More physicality, agression, and maybe some unpredictability could help. Their core style is great but a sprinkle of the Florida Panthers style into their mix would do magic I feel. Not completely copying, just a sprinkle.
To me it came down to a few things this season: 1) Too many vets. They were gassed in the Edmonton series (understandably so after having to beat Vegas + Colorado). 2) A very shaky 3rd D pairing (the Lundkvist experiment failed & Suter is too old to play D in the NHL). 3) They rode Miro too hard… AGAIN. If he’s fresher (even 3-4 less minutes) he becomes a bigger offensive threat. 4) Harley, Duchene, & Roope were super quiet. I think Tanev stays, Duchene goes, Harley gets 5+ million yearly, Lundvkist goes, Steel stays, Smith goes, Hakanpaa goes, Wedgie stays, Bourque becomes full time NHL next year, and (prays) they ship Suter to a lowly team for 1.5ish Million and just eat the rest. Go Stars!
Keep - Duchene, Smith, Tanev, Wedgewood, Hakanpaa - Steel, Harley Trade - Delly, Lundv - Suter (even if it takes a pick) Bring up - Bour, Bish Go get - another dman & potential middle/top 6 rental if possible
Great analysis as usual. Feel bad for Pavelski but feel good about the Stars future. Thought they might get there this season. Edmonton's PK was solid. PP solid. Seems like that was the big difference. Skinner was impressive. Should be a great finals.
Up until this year I had thought of Dallas as a team of a bunch of older guys trying to get that last cup run. Boy was I wrong. It’s those guys getting carried by these young guns while showing them the way. Dallas is set up for a while now Edit: carried might be a strong word but their young guns are good
Yeah this was one of those years that was all about trying to get guys like Joe a cup, unfortunate but he won’t be the first amazing athlete to never win a championship. It’s crazy how much young amazing talent this team has got, looking forward to what Nill cooks up this offseason. Go Stars! 🌟
I think the big miss for the Stars is a Darien Hatcher type strongman that can be physical during the playoffs. Right now, the only guys that will get physical are Benn, Marchment and Tanev. Tanev is a must sign. Dude is a solid hockey player. Would love to see Pav’s come back for a year in a final quest for the cup.
try being a devils fan, i miss the days when we were tough to play against like the teams from 2000,2001 and 03 but Devils are ran by a clueless bum and are scared to have physicality. need that steven type Dman who just hits.
Agreed on Tanev, but it sucks to say, Pavs gotta go. He was dog water in the playoffs and end of the season. Father time finally caught up to him unfortunately.
@@zorg729 I think everyone is overestimating his decline in production... He still had 27 goals this year - and no one would doubt he's an asset in the locker room. If we could get him on a team-friendly contract (1 year, $2M), he'd be worth having - even if we had him on the 4th line.
The Stars have to be a better home playoff team. 4-6 at home in the playoffs and 0-3 in Game 1s. Unacceptable. You work hard all regular season to get home-ice advantage and you don't take advantage? Pathetic.
I think Jamie Benn had an amazing playoffs for what is expected of him. He’s not that high scoring guy anymore but really stepped up. It’s hard for me to see the stars winning the cup with his, suters and seguins contracts though. I just hope our young guys can stay in their prime when those deals are up. This team could be in the verge of being consistently good for many years for the first time in a long time
The Hintz injury really snake bit Robertson. Robertson was a different player with/without him. Pavelski fell off in the playoffs, be interesting to hear if he was nursing an injury or father time was catching up. Credit really goes to Skinner from Edmonton, he stopped 34/35 shots in Game 6, IDC what team you are, that's a tough nut to crack.
With that being said, Peter DeBoer should not be our head coach. I think it's safe to say that this coach will never win a cup. He made a lot of rotational mistakes, like utilizing an injured Chris Tanev and Sam Steel over Bischl and Craig Smith. And, also giving a recently recovered Roope Hintz heavy minutes when he wasn't the same player he was before the injury.
Soon you all know but I can tell u right now. Lian Bichel will be a great player for Dallas, he is like a non fighting Oleksiak. He played in my team in sweden and he is great.
I think we need to find a way to keep Tanev, he was huge for this team and probably don't make it past Vegas without him. Regarding BeDoer, I will take a smart systems guy that can consistently get you deep runs any day. This team can play so many ways and be effective and that was all DeBoer. When you get deep in the playoffs it's really on the players to play with the intensity and hunger that can close it out. Falling short in the Edmonton series was due to a couple games where they didn't bring their best game. That's on the guys on the ice, not the coach.
The question is whether having DeBoer is worth putting up with Steve Spott. Spott's PP fading in the playoffs is one reason DeBoer got fired from Vegas, and it might be the reason he gets fired from Dallas, although it won't be this off-season.
Remember: No matter how much it hurts to lose in WCF back to back years, there are 28 teams who would have KILLED for the chance to be that good. And with our drafting, coaching, and ownership, we keep getting better, and the talent pool keeps getting deeper. We are in position to be great for another DECADE. Don't be in any big hurry to make SWEEPING CHANGES to a team in that position. Stay the course; better times are coming!
I dont see how the defense cant be the main need at the moment. Dallas hasnt had a legit top 4 in quite some time. Imo, having a properly structured defense probably changes the outcome of some of these games in the two most recent playoff runs. Moves needed to improve imo.. Buy out Suter. Activate Nils and Delly. Package Nils and Delly with Faksa or Dadanov to get either picks back or to fill one of those blue line holes. Bring back Steel,Dutch and Tanev.
Bit of a long post incoming. Out of all the free agents, they really need to find a way to keep Tanev. Harley's deal is going to get done and due to the drop in offense in the second half it may even be at a more team-friendly deal. I feel like Pavelski is going to retire but honestly, if the guy says he wants to come back how do you tell him no. If he does I think you get an even more team friendly deal then his current contract and you have to manage his games played. Asking a 40-year-old to play 82 games and still have energy to produce in the playoffs would be a plan for failure. Jani Hakanpää possibly doesn't get an extension as I just don't feel he performed to the level expected of him but that does open a big hole to fill through other means. Please, for the love of god just move on from Nils Lundkvist. With Duchene, I really like everything he bring to the team but I feel he might end up as the odd man out. He almost completely disappeared in the playoffs, minus one very meaningful goal against Colorado, but I would still really like to see him back if they can get an appropriate contract. As far as coaching I feel DeBoer did well with what he had. Injuries after going through a very difficult and physical first 2 rounds definitely took a toll. Interested to see what everyone was dealing with once injury reports come out. I would have liked to see the coaching staff at least try to change things up on the powerplay instead of just continuing to run a car into a brick wall expecting a different result but overall DeBoer fits really well with this team and likely won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Obviously very disappointed with how the season ended with the complete lack of performance in the biggest moments of the WCF, not to downplay how well Edmonton played to ensure no easy route to get things going was given, but still a hell of a season. As long as they don't manage to screw it up the future is very bright in Dallas.
I know Suter wants a Cup before retiring, but at this point, he NEEDS to retire. During the regular season, when Suter was paired with Miro Heiskanen, he held Miro back. Lots of games poor Miro had to play for both of them, because Suter's legs just can't carry him across the ice anymore. I kind of feel the same way about Pav, but I think Joe brings something to the locker room that might be worth a one-year contract. Lundkvist needs to go. His occasional flashes of decent play were too few and far between. I like Haki a lot and if he gets knee surgery ASAP, I would like to see him come back to the Stars.
Alot of postives with the young guns. Pavelski is ready for beer league hockey. Suter, Hockenpaa, need to go. Benn and Seguin are borderline. Johnston should be the future captain.
Haters and doomers can't stand how bright Dallas's future is. They're incredibly close. I really hope they keep Steel and Smith, they were fantastic 4th liners this year. Hopefully they can keep Tanev but I kinda doubt it. Hopefully Pavelski stays with the team in some other format. I liked Duchene and I'd like to see him back. I thought Seguin played better in the playoffs than people give him credit for. A full year of Johnston and Stankoven, on top of Robertson and Hintz... Borque? Heiskanen and Harley, then Bichsel too?
Get rid of DeBoer. Honestly. I have nothing agaist the man, and his coaching style clearly works dividends, as he's consistently gotten teams deep into the playoffs and even gotten two to the Stanley Cup, but his track record does not bode well. Drop him and find their version of Bruce Cassidy to take them over the top.
sometimes firing a good coach to make a change just for the sake of making a change doesn't work. like with Nashville firing Laviolette and replacing him with John Hynes
@@blackberrythorns The track record speaks for itself. His ceiling has been conference finals since 2017. If he couldn't get there with two very talented teams, that being the 2020 Knights and the 2023/2024 Stars, he won't get there at all, especially as he seems to be growing more set in his ways as the years go by. His stubbornness is going to be holding the Stars back, barring a stratospheric change in his coaching philosophy, and they'll be doomed to playoff futility like the Knights and Sharks before them. All I can say thereafter is please prove me wrong. He's a great coach and I would love to see him win a cup, but I can't trust his track record.
@@OzeeManDias there are a number of nhl teams looking for a head coach. he should be fired immediately because management, the rest of the coaching staff and the lineup have nothing to do with anything.
I worry that Dallas will take a step back next year. Joe Pavelski is done. Seguin and Benn are near done. Suter appears close to done. Duchene is going elsewhere. They have done an amazing job drafting while still being a good team. 2017 : Hesikanen 3rd Jake Oettinger 26th Jason Robertson 39th 2015 ; Roope Hintz 49th 2018 Ty Delleandrea 13th 2019 Thomas Harley 18th 2020 Mavrik Bourque 30th 2021 Wyatt johnston 23rd Logan Stankoven 47th 2022 Lian Bischel 18th Chris Kyrou 50th Lot of these guys have better years and some of them displace a few of the older expensive guys. Still a very competitive team next year.
Players age 26 and lower:Otter, Heiskanen, Harley, Lian Bichsel, Lundkvist, Christian Kyrou, Robertson, Johnston, Hintz, Stankoven, Mavrik Bourque, Dellandrea
0-14 on pp doesn't cut it...Deboer isn't preparing our boys!!! 0-5 im conference championships is worrisome...not sure what to do about that?? Once apon a time people said Andy Reid couldnt win a Championship...Why doesnt anyone on this team attack the net?? Why did Pete take Seguin away from Duchesne??
Just trade suter away at whatever cost. Sign pesce or ekholm type solid physical d. Try to trade seguin for some more physical top 6 forward and next year win stanley cup.
Colossal failure? Beating the two previous Stanley Cup winning teams this playoff run and getting to the WCF two years in a row with an improving roster. Most of the teams in the league would love to be in that position. Heartbreaking loss this year but being top 4 two years in a row doesn't qualify as a failure in the NHL.
You cannot win a Cup with Pete DeBoer as your coach. The dude needs to go: our conditioning was off, and our play was unsound. We deserved to be bounced
Dallas is going downhill before they come back up. They need to dump the old players , they held them back. They have a lot of young skilled soon to be superstars. I really think this was their best but last chance to win the cup with the current roster
Calling out Benn is foolish guy left it all out there led the team in hits and near point per game the actual vets that didn’t do enough-> pavelski, Seguin, duchene, Lindell, Suter
Hey, sorry stars didn't make it to the Stanley cups finals. I was pulling for them. Not. Big fan of connor or Leon. Remind me of the wayne and mark duo of the oilers of the 80s. Really wish flyers won in 1987.
If I were to play arm chair GM I'd trade Faksa and buy out Suter, let Pavs, Duchy, Lund, and Hak walk. That'd give you space to sign Tanev AND maybe even a Marchessalt🫢
There are so many players on this team that I cannot wait to cheer for. As soon as they leave for a team that I don't find to be completely revolting. Oettinger, Heiskanen, Tanev, Steel, Johnston, Roberston, Seguin
Dallas had a great year. Disappointed it stopped in the same place as last year. It really seems as though they need more physicality. Vegas, Colorado, and Edmonton all played this team hard physically and it seemed to take a toll.
Regarding Suter and Lundkvist, I would rather see Petrovic and if Bichsel can make the line up. Want Tanev back in this roatation. Think Sam Steel would be great to bring back for bottom six. Doubt this team can do anything about Benn, Seguin, or Suter. The contracts are just there.
Look forward to the offseason and want to see this team excel in 2025.
in jim nill we trust
Agree, sort of. The Stars have gotten bigger and more physical each year, and competed better vs the bigger more physical teams like Vegas. We ABSOLUTELY dished Vegas as much or more than they could dish us, this year. But we also WATCHED Colorado and Edmonton skate circles around our net. You cannot get much bigger or more physical without risking getting SWEPT by smaller faster teams in the playoffs. Its a balance, and they are close to perfect ALREADY.
Also: We were GASSED in the WCF, and it showed. Who gets gassed quicker? The big beefy guys who burn more energy just to move all that weight, or the small, quick guys with endless stamina? You know the answer. Again, it's a balance and too big is a loser as much as too small is. We are right where we need to be. So why did we lose?
Well you always want a mix of Veterans and Kids, but our Veterans are getting too old. They didn't produce. And we can across the board replace them with kids, because, at this point, Guys like Miro, Hintz, and Robertson AREN'T the kids anymore - they are the veterans!
Shorter version: A mix of YOUNGER veterans and kids will be better next year, than our current mix of OLDER veterans and kids was.
The only part that really hurts is not seeing Pavelski get a Cup here. I hope he gets a job in the organization, so he can still help us win a Cup in the future!
more physical aka bigger typically means slower. That is not what this team needs. With a reliable 3rd pair the top 4 would not have looked so worn out in the WCF. Suter and Petrovic aren’t it.
This hurt alot.. it was a great season though. It hasn't been too rough as a stars fan going to the finals in 2020 and back to back conference finals the last 2 years. We could have it alot worse. The Stars will be back. I trust the organization in that they know the team is very close and they will make the proper moves to put themselves back in the hunt again next year.
Cheers Shannon ! 🍻 🌟
Shannon’s last stand. We are both suffering in silence.
The annual Stars disappointing recap. So close. Go Stars.
Let's keep this an annual celebration😆😆
I watched every Stars game in the playoffs. When they're off, they're off. But when they're playing good, they rank easily amongst the top teams in the league. Agree: this team is facing a great future.
Their drafting is quite possibly the best in the league. Hintz and Robertson were both second round picks; Johnston is looking like the best player in his draft class and they snagged him at 23rd; Perhaps they could have taken Makar instead of Heiskanen... but now that Heiskanen has arrived, it's not looking like much of a drop-off. Oettinger another amazing pickup through the draft. It's just too bad a lot of their big money vets are under-performing their contracts or looking old in the playoffs (Pavelski, Duchene, Suter). The whole "deepest team in the league" thing ain't no joke.
But as their old guys run out their contracts, their young guys are going to end up taking most of that money and it's probably not going to leave them a lot of cap space to hire any superstars or anything... they'll just have to fill out the roster with solid depth guys. And as a result, they're not going to have the star power of teams like Colorado and Edmonton, who I can foresee giving them fits over the next 5 years.
As a Stars fan, we had plenty of depth, but that depth didnt show up in this Oilers series. Cant get blanked on the PP and then get shredded on the PK as well. Needed more from guys like Duchene, Roope, Pavelski, and Robertson. Disappointing end to the season. Id be shocked if we somehow miss the playoffs next season though.
I felt it was weird to watch this series. They just couldn't get it going and didn't feel it was very physical on Dallas' end.
@@muffpipe84 i agree, watching this series wasn't disappointing, it was weird and uncanny seeing the clear better team somehow not be the clear better team
I would be shocked if this team missed the playoffs next year. They need to tweak a few things with this lineup. Mostly becoming more physical would be good. I'm not sure if this team wins the Division or goes as far in the playoffs as the last 2 seasons, but i would be very surprised if they missed the playoffs altogether
The thing is, the PP is often a measure of your star power. Best PPs in the league are regularly Edmonton, Colorado and Tampa. Oh look I also just named 3 of the last 4 cup winners, and possibly 4 of the last 5 in 3 weeks from now. You can't underestimate the impact of star power.
Dallas has a really good team tho. They're just a little closer to the Vegas model than they are the Edmonton/Tampa/Colorado model. Perhaps if Benn came down with some major health issue that would put him on LTIR til April, that would be the layup the Stars would need to win a cup.
Still think Dallas had the most difficult opponents this year the two previous cup winners and then then a really good Oilers team. Rooting for Florida but wouldn’t be surprised if Edmonton won
It's weird not seeing Seguin in the top for points getters for Dallas
Dallas reminds me of the 2013-2018 Capitals. They keep hitting a brick wall short of the cup, but eventually they will break through. However they will never win more than 1 cup if they do.
Its tough to beat the last 2 Cup winners in consecutive series and have nothing to show for it. In the end that might've been Dallas' downfall. Even though Edmonton played a tough series against Vancouver, I dont think anyone would argue they had a much easier time on their way to the Conference Finals. And more fortunate not having to face Demko.
Having the core is the hard part but its clear the Stars already have that. Now they just need to put the right players around those guys. They'll def be back and I wouldn't be surprised to see them win a Cup in the next 3-5 years.
I agree, I think Dallas got a bad lineup after Vegas threw that final game in the regular season. I think had that not happened it would have been a Vegas vs Dallas western conference again.
Oilers had it pretty easy, even Vancouver was not nearly as good as the Avalanche and Knights. Stars got
Multiple injuries and were beaten down by long series while Oilers got a measure first series and an easier second series that was only pushed due to Skinner having poor games.
also Boeser getting hurt. Oilers did what they needed to do but very fortunate. I think the Cats expose some of their weaknesses.
@@CaptGhostRyderYou guys are coping. If it's your time, you beat the teams in front of you. Maybe next year.
@@CaptGhostRyder There is no easy run to the cup final
@@Foxentails no being realists, it’s also showing the weakness in the current way the NHL does the brackets.
Looking forward to next season. The biggest eye opener in this series is that we need to get better playing and making passing decisions while being harassed. That needs to be a practice item that they hammer over and over again until players start building some comfort with it. Too many times we made terrible passes when Edmonton skaters got close to us and threatened our safe space/ bubble LOL. Harley needs to do better at supporting the attack. Over and over again he skated out of the offensive zone immediately without trying to keep pucks in the zone when you could clearly tell he would have been able to keep the puck in the zone. That screams "fear of making mistakes" and or lack of confidence. Finally the Stars NEED to embrace BIG HITS in the Playoffs. I saw way to many "love tap" hits against Edmonton and that probably helped Edmonton feel comfortable since they weren't worried about being laid out. Lets get the Cup in 2025. Go Stars!
As an Oilers fan, I'm scared to think how good Wyatt Johnston is gonna be. He's already a scary good player in the playoffs.
McDavid? I know I know it's obvious.
Robertson is also a very good young player.
Good luck in the Stanley Cup Finals.
He's definitely legit. Crazy that the Stars were able to pick him up in the 23rd spot. He's the number 1 point getter in his draft class as of the end of this season.
@@archimedes2261 I believe Johnston is significantly better than robertson.
Do you think Suter will retire though because he needs to
The Stars would still be stuck with his contract though. So they'd have to try and trade that out.
Probably doesn't retire because he'd lose out on whatever he is still owed on his contract. My guess would be he just goes on LTIR.
He’ll be bought out
His contract was structured to be a cheap buyout. I hope the Stars do so.
Facts
Stankoven eliminated nearly 1 year to the day (+1) from last year. Brutal
A step behind by a little bit is putting it generously. With all due respect to his great career, but Pavelski looked awful all playoffs. He was so much slower than almost everyone in all 3 rounds. And since he really only had way of scoring, it was really easy for opposition to shut him down.
Thank god theres only 1 year left of suffering Suter. Letting Hakenpaa walk is also fine, ive seen enough of him as well. Duchene, take him or leave him. He had the big series winner in Colorado, and did good in the regular season but again kind of a no show when games mattered. Tanev... he played well but hes 34 and he gets hurt a lot. Wouldn't mind him staying at the right price but if another team overpays, its best to move on.
As for Benn. Hes thankfully, only got 1 more year on that big contract. I dont mind him staying beyond that, at a much much lower price, but if he does... this year should be his last as Captain. Obviously, that's a delicate thing, but with 1 year remaining, now is the time to ask him respectfully to use this last year to transition to someone else.
I think he made up for his insane stupidity last year against Vegas. But THG touched on it last night. I think of all the critical games where he just disappeared. The moment got too big for him, and it happened again last night. There's always talk of what a great leader he is, but that shrinking can be contagious to a locker room.
To end on a positive the kids look great and hopefully they grow even more next season. Hopefully Lian also continues the streak of great draft picks. They may lack experience but they got that youthful heart that allows them to play without fear. Need more of that i think to take that next step.
Thank you for this. I know it’s a bring future for us in Dallas but the gut punch sucks every year. Until next season 🌟
It was a great season. Very proud of what they were able to accomplish this year. The future is insanely bright for this team with all these young guys coming in. Jim Nill is GM of the year winner for a reason. If this is indeed Pavs last year with this Stars and the NHL in general (which I think it will be) I'm very thankful that he was a part of this team. He was a huge part of their success. Can't wait for October. GO STARS!
I hope Pavelski plays 1 more even if it was only for the 24 goals to 500.
no he needs to retire as well
He should sign with a team like the red wings to push them into the playoffs, and not play a single playoff game
Joe P is retiring without a ring.
With how well Jim Nill has drafted the trading a first for Niks Lundkvist is really a double whammy. The stars have really hit some home runs at the draft table recently.
What's frustrating is you can see Nils show flashes of excellence. And when he gets rattled, he just falls apart. It's like he's two different players. I don't blame Nill for taking the chance, even if I bitterly wish he didn't.
@@TheFusionmix he's better off as a forward honestly
I don’t agree with the take that we can’t win with DeBoer. What I DO agree with is that we can’t win with Spott as our PP coach. That was undoubtedly the deciding factor in us losing to EDM.
@@somebody9889 yup. That’s the only part I don’t have an answer for. But imo we need a new PP coach more than we need DeBoer. So if he goes, so be it.
Agreed. The PP used the same two entry schemes all year and really needs a 100% Hintz and Pavelski.
I do think a big reason why Edmonton's PK has been so dominant all playoffs, is because Knoblauch is out-coaching the other coaches. So take that for what it's worth. If your coach got out-coached, then maybe he's not the guy.
@@Eirhead888 I think you’re on to something there. A big part of the loss was PDB not altering the game plan. Sure he changed up lines, but we never evolved past dumping the puck along the boards to exit the zone and trying to spring 1 man rushes into a 3 man trap defense. No adaptation.
@@sfgiants9725Stars played the ”1 player skates up while we airmail the puck to the offensive blueline” and when edmonton adapted to it having their C close that gap, stars had no room and started to turn the puck over
I'm looking forward to see Bichsel play!
Love your insight not only on the Stars but great hockey knowledge
I always enjoy your videos man and thankfully this lifted my spirits after seeing them lose this series to Edmonton. Our future is bright and our time will come someday
Great to see Harley and Johnston break out, hope they can go up by another level and Seguin can stay hot
It's a good place to be in when you have all your 1st round draft picks and you're expected to return as a Final Four team. They're not just a team of older veterans, which speaks to being well managed to staying up at the top for the long term. Speaking of which, this is traditionally the time of year when people ask, just like the last 6-7 years, if this is the last year for Joe Pavelski. I hope he comes back for one more season, so he can get to 500 goals.
"Wait 'til next year" gets really fast especially if next year never comes. Sure the Stars will still be good, but when will they take the next step to being great?
Very excited for the stars
As a HUGE Minnesota Wild fan, it pains me to admit Dallas is going to be a contender for A WHILE. Gonna be lots of fun rivalry games in the future. Part of me hopes a lot of these young guys make it but the fan in me says I hope they go into a tail spin, not to wish bad on anybodys career, just against us haha.
I’m always slightly crushed when my team (not the Stars but I feel THG’s pain) is eliminated.
For years, my team was the bond between my father and I. One of our only true connections to be honest.
Then he died.
And now when my team is eliminated, a bit of me dies.
And I wonder how many more seasons do I have left to enjoy. Five? 15? One? Who knows.
But time is passing and my window is closing.
Time flies. all the best to you may you live long and well ❤️ bless your dad
sign tanev, work on special teams, thats what killed them, suter was ok defensively. i would let duch, and pavs move on. nils is a question mark.. i am proud of my stars.. it does feel like dallas was playing the entire country of canada . hats off to the oilers , they deserved to win. i saved and framed the paper from 99. what could i frame if they win it again? thx shannon, as always, for doing a great job of covering the sport i adore, and love.. go stars ...
Stars could use some bigger physical players.
Dallas are a very talented young team as Shannon mentioned, it's only a matter of time before they reach the Cup final again, Oilers were just a little more skilled and mature this year.
Oilers had a much easier path and it was clear to me that using 5 defenseman wasn’t a realistic option if they wanted to win a cup.
I think the stars will be doomed to a sharks fate where they have many years of being a contender, but can’t escape the western finals. 03/04 to 10/11
Especially with DeBoer
Possibly. They're going to be a strong team for a long time. But they'll probably need to catch some good luck, or lightning in a bottle to make another Cup Finals without the star power that exists on other teams.
The playoff run fittingly reflects the Dallas White Dwarfs.
Ryan Suter almost single handedly cost them this series. He’s gotta go!
He does that… Coming from a wild fan
Just like last season, the more things change the more they stay the same
I know the internet needs a fall guy, but this is a knee jerk reaction. we still got good defending from a banged up blue line, it was team scoring that fizzled
the stats back it up, our playoffs goals against was pretty good (2.53 GA/GP), goals for was mediocre (2.74 GF/GP).
Social club... he's gotta gooo!!!
Jamie benn eats corn the long way
as a resident of dallas alot of former players just like the city. and i figure that happens alil bit everywhere.
I really think we could see Edmonton and Dallas face off frequently in the Conference Finals for the next five years. I look forward to this becoming an intense rivalry.
As the playoffs wind down and you search for content ideas, I have a suggestion. I just watched your Iginla career video and thought what about a video on the best players that have never won a cup. IDK, just my 2 cents on a video idea.
I was so surprised that the Star lacked any physicality in their game. This is a far cry from the Stars of the past which would bulldoze anyone to get the job done. Not used to seeing them so passive in critical playoffs games.
Shannon: "They don't have some of the salary restraints some other teams have."
Vegas/Tampa: "What do you mean?"
I like very much your assessment about The Stars..Landing a high end veteran to succeed the aging ones ..GM has shown his acumen with this…translates to Benn and Seguin strictly as supporting cast what they can still offer as Duchene did this season..
Imagine Chris Kreider here…longtime forever Blueshirt but could be like Reilly Sabres to Blues..Reinhart Sabres to Florida.
Their future’s so bright, Timbuk 3 might write a song about them.
Dallas is an amazing hockey team no doubt, but I think they struggled to make Edmonton uncomfortable snd force them off their main game plan later in the series. More physicality, agression, and maybe some unpredictability could help. Their core style is great but a sprinkle of the Florida Panthers style into their mix would do magic I feel. Not completely copying, just a sprinkle.
To me it came down to a few things this season:
1) Too many vets. They were gassed in the Edmonton series (understandably so after having to beat Vegas + Colorado).
2) A very shaky 3rd D pairing (the Lundkvist experiment failed & Suter is too old to play D in the NHL).
3) They rode Miro too hard… AGAIN. If he’s fresher (even 3-4 less minutes) he becomes a bigger offensive threat.
4) Harley, Duchene, & Roope were super quiet.
I think Tanev stays, Duchene goes, Harley gets 5+ million yearly, Lundvkist goes, Steel stays, Smith goes, Hakanpaa goes, Wedgie stays, Bourque becomes full time NHL next year, and (prays) they ship Suter to a lowly team for 1.5ish Million and just eat the rest.
Go Stars!
Keep
- Duchene, Smith, Tanev, Wedgewood, Hakanpaa
- Steel, Harley
Trade
- Delly, Lundv
- Suter (even if it takes a pick)
Bring up
- Bour, Bish
Go get
- another dman & potential middle/top 6 rental if possible
Great analysis as usual. Feel bad for Pavelski but feel good about the Stars future. Thought they might get there this season. Edmonton's PK was solid. PP solid. Seems like that was the big difference. Skinner was impressive. Should be a great finals.
Up until this year I had thought of Dallas as a team of a bunch of older guys trying to get that last cup run. Boy was I wrong. It’s those guys getting carried by these young guns while showing them the way. Dallas is set up for a while now
Edit: carried might be a strong word but their young guns are good
Yeah this was one of those years that was all about trying to get guys like Joe a cup, unfortunate but he won’t be the first amazing athlete to never win a championship. It’s crazy how much young amazing talent this team has got, looking forward to what Nill cooks up this offseason. Go Stars! 🌟
I think the big miss for the Stars is a Darien Hatcher type strongman that can be physical during the playoffs.
Right now, the only guys that will get physical are Benn, Marchment and Tanev.
Tanev is a must sign. Dude is a solid hockey player. Would love to see Pav’s come back for a year in a final quest for the cup.
Agreed
Though Derrian Hatchers dont exactly grow on trees do they!
try being a devils fan, i miss the days when we were tough to play against like the teams from 2000,2001 and 03 but Devils are ran by a clueless bum and are scared to have physicality. need that steven type Dman who just hits.
Agreed on Tanev, but it sucks to say, Pavs gotta go. He was dog water in the playoffs and end of the season. Father time finally caught up to him unfortunately.
@@zorg729 I think everyone is overestimating his decline in production... He still had 27 goals this year - and no one would doubt he's an asset in the locker room. If we could get him on a team-friendly contract (1 year, $2M), he'd be worth having - even if we had him on the 4th line.
The Stars have to be a better home playoff team. 4-6 at home in the playoffs and 0-3 in Game 1s. Unacceptable. You work hard all regular season to get home-ice advantage and you don't take advantage? Pathetic.
I would tell that more to the Winnipeg Jets.
@@archimedes2261well atleast Jets took game 1
But the way they went out was pretty underwhelming
for UFA's I would try to keep Tanev, he is a solid defensive dman
I think Jamie Benn had an amazing playoffs for what is expected of him. He’s not that high scoring guy anymore but really stepped up. It’s hard for me to see the stars winning the cup with his, suters and seguins contracts though. I just hope our young guys can stay in their prime when those deals are up. This team could be in the verge of being consistently good for many years for the first time in a long time
Cool franchise
The Hintz injury really snake bit Robertson. Robertson was a different player with/without him. Pavelski fell off in the playoffs, be interesting to hear if he was nursing an injury or father time was catching up.
Credit really goes to Skinner from Edmonton, he stopped 34/35 shots in Game 6, IDC what team you are, that's a tough nut to crack.
Dallas doesn't really have anyone in their prime. Mostly up and coming players or veterans
Definitely seems like the Oilers are next up in line, doesnt it. Definitely their time.
Jason Robertson has to be though. Or he already peaked last season?
With that being said, Peter DeBoer should not be our head coach. I think it's safe to say that this coach will never win a cup. He made a lot of rotational mistakes, like utilizing an injured Chris Tanev and Sam Steel over Bischl and Craig Smith. And, also giving a recently recovered Roope Hintz heavy minutes when he wasn't the same player he was before the injury.
It seems like duchene only ever shows up against the avs. hes got to work on whatevers going on in his head to fix that
Josh Anderson would be a perfect fit for Dallas
Soon you all know but I can tell u right now. Lian Bichel will be a great player for Dallas, he is like a non fighting Oleksiak. He played in my team in sweden and he is great.
I think we need to find a way to keep Tanev, he was huge for this team and probably don't make it past Vegas without him.
Regarding BeDoer, I will take a smart systems guy that can consistently get you deep runs any day. This team can play so many ways and be effective and that was all DeBoer. When you get deep in the playoffs it's really on the players to play with the intensity and hunger that can close it out. Falling short in the Edmonton series was due to a couple games where they didn't bring their best game. That's on the guys on the ice, not the coach.
The question is whether having DeBoer is worth putting up with Steve Spott. Spott's PP fading in the playoffs is one reason DeBoer got fired from Vegas, and it might be the reason he gets fired from Dallas, although it won't be this off-season.
Remember: No matter how much it hurts to lose in WCF back to back years, there are 28 teams who would have KILLED for the chance to be that good.
And with our drafting, coaching, and ownership, we keep getting better, and the talent pool keeps getting deeper.
We are in position to be great for another DECADE.
Don't be in any big hurry to make SWEEPING CHANGES to a team in that position.
Stay the course; better times are coming!
I dont see how the defense cant be the main need at the moment. Dallas hasnt had a legit top 4 in quite some time. Imo, having a properly structured defense probably changes the outcome of some of these games in the two most recent playoff runs.
Moves needed to improve imo..
Buy out Suter.
Activate Nils and Delly.
Package Nils and Delly with Faksa or Dadanov to get either picks back or to fill one of those blue line holes.
Bring back Steel,Dutch and Tanev.
Bit of a long post incoming. Out of all the free agents, they really need to find a way to keep Tanev. Harley's deal is going to get done and due to the drop in offense in the second half it may even be at a more team-friendly deal. I feel like Pavelski is going to retire but honestly, if the guy says he wants to come back how do you tell him no. If he does I think you get an even more team friendly deal then his current contract and you have to manage his games played. Asking a 40-year-old to play 82 games and still have energy to produce in the playoffs would be a plan for failure. Jani Hakanpää possibly doesn't get an extension as I just don't feel he performed to the level expected of him but that does open a big hole to fill through other means. Please, for the love of god just move on from Nils Lundkvist. With Duchene, I really like everything he bring to the team but I feel he might end up as the odd man out. He almost completely disappeared in the playoffs, minus one very meaningful goal against Colorado, but I would still really like to see him back if they can get an appropriate contract. As far as coaching I feel DeBoer did well with what he had. Injuries after going through a very difficult and physical first 2 rounds definitely took a toll. Interested to see what everyone was dealing with once injury reports come out. I would have liked to see the coaching staff at least try to change things up on the powerplay instead of just continuing to run a car into a brick wall expecting a different result but overall DeBoer fits really well with this team and likely won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Obviously very disappointed with how the season ended with the complete lack of performance in the biggest moments of the WCF, not to downplay how well Edmonton played to ensure no easy route to get things going was given, but still a hell of a season. As long as they don't manage to screw it up the future is very bright in Dallas.
I know Suter wants a Cup before retiring, but at this point, he NEEDS to retire. During the regular season, when Suter was paired with Miro Heiskanen, he held Miro back. Lots of games poor Miro had to play for both of them, because Suter's legs just can't carry him across the ice anymore. I kind of feel the same way about Pav, but I think Joe brings something to the locker room that might be worth a one-year contract. Lundkvist needs to go. His occasional flashes of decent play were too few and far between. I like Haki a lot and if he gets knee surgery ASAP, I would like to see him come back to the Stars.
They should toss Otter 4x7 Id say.
Johnston, if he continues to trend up, hes gonna cost in that 10 range.
'Edmonton was better.' Fine analysis.
Ötti is one of the best goalies in the league
Alot of postives with the young guns. Pavelski is ready for beer league hockey. Suter, Hockenpaa, need to go. Benn and Seguin are borderline. Johnston should be the future captain.
Haters and doomers can't stand how bright Dallas's future is. They're incredibly close. I really hope they keep Steel and Smith, they were fantastic 4th liners this year. Hopefully they can keep Tanev but I kinda doubt it. Hopefully Pavelski stays with the team in some other format. I liked Duchene and I'd like to see him back. I thought Seguin played better in the playoffs than people give him credit for. A full year of Johnston and Stankoven, on top of Robertson and Hintz... Borque? Heiskanen and Harley, then Bichsel too?
This team isn't gonna win with DeBoer, his style of coaching just doesn't work in the play offs
No
??? you'd need to get specific.
He’s a good coach it’s hard to win a cup Paul Maurice has more losses than any other coach he’s coached more games yet he got his team to a cup
Oh you dont figure Benn can pull 9.5 per on his next contract? Shannon way out on that limb as always 😄👍
How do you lose a game despite only allowing 10 shots? That is the most embarrassing loss I've ever seen.
Get rid of DeBoer. Honestly. I have nothing agaist the man, and his coaching style clearly works dividends, as he's consistently gotten teams deep into the playoffs and even gotten two to the Stanley Cup, but his track record does not bode well.
Drop him and find their version of Bruce Cassidy to take them over the top.
sometimes firing a good coach to make a change just for the sake of making a change doesn't work. like with Nashville firing Laviolette and replacing him with John Hynes
@@diggsfather It's like UTree always says: "You don't win cups with Peter DeBoer."
@@OzeeManDias so you like slogans rather than small lineup changes, sounds like a winning formula.
@@blackberrythorns The track record speaks for itself. His ceiling has been conference finals since 2017. If he couldn't get there with two very talented teams, that being the 2020 Knights and the 2023/2024 Stars, he won't get there at all, especially as he seems to be growing more set in his ways as the years go by. His stubbornness is going to be holding the Stars back, barring a stratospheric change in his coaching philosophy, and they'll be doomed to playoff futility like the Knights and Sharks before them.
All I can say thereafter is please prove me wrong. He's a great coach and I would love to see him win a cup, but I can't trust his track record.
@@OzeeManDias there are a number of nhl teams looking for a head coach. he should be fired immediately because management, the rest of the coaching staff and the lineup have nothing to do with anything.
I worry that Dallas will take a step back next year. Joe Pavelski is done. Seguin and Benn are near done. Suter appears close to done. Duchene is going elsewhere.
They have done an amazing job drafting while still being a good team. 2017 : Hesikanen 3rd Jake Oettinger 26th Jason Robertson 39th
2015 ; Roope Hintz 49th 2018 Ty Delleandrea 13th 2019 Thomas Harley 18th 2020 Mavrik Bourque 30th 2021 Wyatt johnston 23rd Logan Stankoven 47th 2022 Lian Bischel 18th Chris Kyrou 50th
Lot of these guys have better years and some of them displace a few of the older expensive guys.
Still a very competitive team next year.
Players age 26 and lower:Otter, Heiskanen, Harley, Lian Bichsel, Lundkvist, Christian Kyrou, Robertson, Johnston, Hintz, Stankoven, Mavrik Bourque, Dellandrea
yea theyre built well, but for the Benn/Seguin albatross contracts
@@TheScotian82 manageable
0-14 on pp doesn't cut it...Deboer isn't preparing our boys!!! 0-5 im conference championships is worrisome...not sure what to do about that?? Once apon a time people said Andy Reid couldnt win a Championship...Why doesnt anyone on this team attack the net?? Why did Pete take Seguin away from Duchesne??
Yet another classic Debortion
Just trade suter away at whatever cost. Sign pesce or ekholm type solid physical d. Try to trade seguin for some more physical top 6 forward and next year win stanley cup.
I'd rather have Seguin and Suter than Tavares
Seguin and Benn making almost 10 million at this stage in their careers. Good for them but they are robbing the organization 😂
"Hockey's hard." - Tyler Seguin
That's for sure!
Fire Pete Deboer.
Don’t know how anyone can say the future is bright for the Dallas Stars after that colossal failure
Colossal failure? Beating the two previous Stanley Cup winning teams this playoff run and getting to the WCF two years in a row with an improving roster. Most of the teams in the league would love to be in that position. Heartbreaking loss this year but being top 4 two years in a row doesn't qualify as a failure in the NHL.
It WAS a colossal collapse and needs to be addressed.
Trade Wyatt Johnston + Jason Robertson for Macklin Celebrini
The Stars should be next year’s Cup favorites.
Not with DeBoer
Not untill deboar is fired
Pavelski's age showed up this postseason, he was terrible
You cannot win a Cup with Pete DeBoer as your coach. The dude needs to go: our conditioning was off, and our play was unsound. We deserved to be bounced
They’re the new San Jose Sharks, they’ll never win it
Dallas is going downhill before they come back up. They need to dump the old players , they held them back. They have a lot of young skilled soon to be superstars. I really think this was their best but last chance to win the cup with the current roster
Future? Get rid of Deboer and then their future is bright.
Buyout Benn...look for a 1A goalie Oettinger is a good 1B...move on from Duchene.
Calling out Benn is foolish guy left it all out there led the team in hits and near point per game the actual vets that didn’t do enough-> pavelski, Seguin, duchene, Lindell, Suter
Marners gonna get traded
Lame that this team stole a near cup from the Sabres. That was not a goal. Fudge the Stars, they deserve the curse.
🙄
Hey, sorry stars didn't make it to the Stanley cups finals. I was pulling for them. Not. Big fan of connor or Leon. Remind me of the wayne and mark duo of the oilers of the 80s. Really wish flyers won in 1987.
...K
Dallas is a finesse team , and finesse teams don’t last in the playoffs. You can already see that in Vegas series
Oettinger isn't the answer. Their Jimmy Howard.
If I were to play arm chair GM I'd trade Faksa and buy out Suter, let Pavs, Duchy, Lund, and Hak walk. That'd give you space to sign Tanev AND maybe even a Marchessalt🫢
@@mannyoliveira776 Just trade Wyatt Johnston + Jason Robertson for Celebrini
There are so many players on this team that I cannot wait to cheer for. As soon as they leave for a team that I don't find to be completely revolting.
Oettinger, Heiskanen, Tanev, Steel, Johnston, Roberston, Seguin