"Ya Allah, bless our dear imam Mohamed Nasiruddin Al Albani, Make his grave very spacious, cool and with light. We ask you to shower much mercy on him and on the day of judgement reward him with Jannathul Firdous without any reckoning. As for our dear Imam Shaykh Rabee, Ya Allah preserve him and keep him in good health and give us the ability to meet him often. And make us benefit much from his teachings". Aameen Ya Allah.
Noor ul Ameen I am not an Ashari. I am a Salafi. But as a matter of fact; don't you think that sheikh Rabee has harshness in his point of view. Their is another video of sheikh Albani (R.A) in which he said that sheikh Rabee has harshness in his books.
yes Sheykh Rabee hafidahou Allah is clearly more knowledgeable in the matters of groups and sects Sheykh al Albani may allah have mercy on him was wrong on this one, sufis asharis deobandis maturidis and all the other sects are clearly not from ahlu sunnah rather they are innovators and people who follow their passions
محمد أبو بكر How can you even say that when Sheik Rabi agreed with Imam al-Alabani concerning the Ashari? (And presumably maturidi on the same grounds) The disagreement was whether we should assume the ruling of deviant Sufi groups should apply to Asharis by extension “because many of the Asharis (or so called Asharis) are part of the extreme Sufi groups. Imam al Albani simply corrected sheikh Rabi that we cannot do that as we are talking about Asharis as a whole and many are not extreme Sufis. You appear to have not even understand the basic premise of what either sheikh is saying.
The way sheikh Rabee responds tells you he is very hasty and is like he doesn't process what shaykh al Albani is saying, but when Al Albani may Allah have mercy on him replies it just tells you how close to Allah he is, calm and replies with Adab the way a real muslim should act Subhanallah
I agree with Shaykh Rabee in the regard that all the Maturidis/Hanafis which includes Barelwis and Deobandis are Sufis. Nowadays Hanafis and Sufis have become synonymous at least in my country in Pakistan. The thing is that Schools of thought like Hanafis and Sha'fis which were originally Sunnis in creed have associated themselves to Asha'ris and Maturidis and worst of all they have become Sufis. I have spent quite some time with both Deobandis and Bralwis (as I belong to a staunch brailwi family) Deobandis pretend that they are Sunnis and against grave- worshippers brailwis but in their roots to this day they are no better than Brailvis. The Main book of creed of Deobandis المهند على المفند clearly states that we believe that it is good to ask dead for help although our exact method is different from Brailwis, we consider that Grave of Rasool ul Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم is more sacred that the throne of Allah Almighty. They are similar views in that book and this book is the basis of Deoband and a textbook in their Madaris. While Brailwis openly state that Deobandis are not Sufis they are Blasphemous and only we are true Sufi and so called Sunis. Some Deobandis maybe due to Salafi influence or maybe to gain political support of Salafis against Brailwis pretend that we are people Tawheed and Sunnah and blah blah. The truth is they don't even let Salafis pray in their Mosques ( in some places) and mock their way of Praying according to Sunnah
Imaam As-Safaareenee said: “What is meant by the madh-hab (belief) of the Salaf is that which the Companions, may Allaah be pleased with them, adhered to, as well as the distinguished ones who followed them upon goodness, their successors and the Imaams of the Religion - those who received testimony as to their leadership, were known for their great status in the Religion and whose words are taken by the people after the Salaf, apart from those who are accused of innovation or renowned for unacceptable ascriptions such as the Khawaarij, Rawaafid, Qadariyyah, Murji’ah, Jabariyyah, Jahmiyyah, Mu’atazilah, Karaamiyyah and those similar to them.” [5] [5] Lawaami’-ul-Anwaar: (1/20)
Assalaamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh, MashaAllah La Quwwata Illah Billah, this once again shows the balanced and fair approach of Sk. Nasiruddin Al Albani. And this exposes the weak and hatred filled approach of Rabi Al Madkhali. That is why the Madakhila till date do takfeer of everyone who doesn't agree with their ideology.
It's simple to conclude that. The subject is about 'errors' the mazhahib does not do errors except for the individual. But if the individual errored in the mazhahib he follows. - Salaf. than it is upon himself
One must also remember that not all Sufis were like Ibn Arabi. There was a time when Tassawuf was grounded in the Quran and Sunnah however as with many thing people made Guloo. It is not fair make it seem as if all sufis throughout history were like Ibn Arabi, who in fact many Sufi and Ashari Shuyokh said was a kafir in his time. Many of the forerunners of Tasawwuf like Junaid Al Bahadadi, Bishir Al Hafi, and Abdul Qadir Jilani were men of the Sunnah but the put extra emphasis on the Heart and the Dikir of Allah etc..
@@CGJUGO80 Yaa Akhi, Shaykh Al Islam ibn Taymiyyah belonged to a Sufi Order. Look at the history of Sufism. It is not how it is today, and even as of today, not all Sufis are pure evil. Maalik studied among Sufis, Shaafi'i was a Sufi. Ibn Al Qayyam was a Sufi. Abu Hanifah studied Sufism for two years, and claims he would have been lost without it. The point is, the concept of Sufism is spirituality, which is a key role in Islam. It's not everything, but key. It is wrong to accuse all Sufis of being pure evil. I am not one, but it is only the Sufis who have deviated amd committed Bid'ah and Shirk.
Epic Brah Akhi I agree with your original premise that not all Sufis were corrupt - and even some so called Sufis today are not bad. I grew up with them. It is incumbent upon me through maintaining the ties of kinship to sit with them and to eat with them. However - please bring your daleel for saying all these great ulema were Sufi or part of a Tareeqa. To the best of my knowledge this is baatil / falsehood. There is no such authentic evidence and this is a lie spread against the giant ulema of Ahlus Sunnah. If I’m wrong then I’m happy to be corrected with proofs.
Assalamo aleykom. I love all of you. In Sahih Muslim [1847, chapter of obligation to stay with the majority (Jamaa) in period of fitna], the Prophet warns us about the predicators that invite people to hell and that we must stick to the majority of the Muslims. It has been narrated on the authority of Hudhaifa b. al-Yaman who said: People used to ask the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) about the good times, but I used to ask him about bad times fearing lest they overtake me. I said: Messenger of Allah, we were in the midst of ignorance and evil, and then God brought us this good (time through Islam). Is there any bad time after this good one? He said: Yes. I asked: Will there be a good time again after that bad time? He said: Yes, but therein will be a hidden evil. I asked: What will be the evil hidden therein? He said: (That time will witness the rise of) the people who will adopt ways other than mine and seek guidance other than mine. You will know good points as well as bad points. I asked: Will there be a bad time after this good one? He said: Yes. (A time will come) when there will be people standing and inviting at the gates of Hell. Whoso responds to their call they will throw them into the fire. I said: Messenger of Allah, describe them for us. He said: All right. They will be a people having the same complexion as ours and speaking our language. I said: Messenger of Allah, what do you suggest if I happen to live in that time? He said: You should stick to the main body of the Muslims and their leader. I said: If they have no (such thing as the) main body and have no leader? He said: Separate yourself from all these factions, though you may have to eat the roots of trees until death comes to you and you are in this state.in Bukhari : Volume 9, Book 88, Number 206: Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman: The people used to ask Allah's Apostle about the good but I used to ask him about the evil lest I should be overtaken by them. So I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We were living in ignorance and in an (extremely) worst atmosphere, then Allah brought to us this good (i.e., Islam); will there be any evil after this good?" He said, "Yes." I said, 'Will there be any good after that evil?" He replied, "Yes, but it will be tainted (not pure.)'' I asked, "What will be its taint?" He replied, "(There will be) some people who will guide others not according to my tradition? You will approve of some of their deeds and disapprove of some others." I asked, "Will there be any evil after that good?" He replied, "Yes, (there will be) some people calling at the gates of the (Hell) Fire, and whoever will respond to their call, will be thrown by them into the (Hell) Fire." I said, "O Allah s Apostle! Will you describe them to us?" He said, "They will be from our own people and will speak our language." I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their Imam (ruler)." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an Imam (ruler)?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."
Sufism is from Islam and the sunnah. Ibn Taymiyya was a Qadiri-Sufi, Imam Dhahabi was Suhrawardi, Ibn Hajar was Shadili, Sultan Salahudin was Qadiri, Fatih Sultan Mehmed was Naqshbandi. How can sufism be against the sunnah? Who is Ahl al-Sunnah if not Sultan Salahudin or Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani? Al-Albani and Al-Madkhali havent reached one 10th of the level of these sufis but dare to attack them and call them deviant.
Ibn taymiyah was initially sufi in his early days but recognized the wrong of sufism and abandoned it and called for the rejection of sufi practises such as asking from graves of saints for example. May Allah guide you brother
@@thepantcoat7564 grave worship is sadly associated with Tasawwuf especially these days, but it is not from original Tasawwuf or the early and true Sufis
I seek refuge with Allaah from this enormous and grave speech which might be considered as takfir. Ittaqillaah you will be questioned about this claim and slander on the Day of Resurrection. Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 111: ... قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ ..."Produce your proof if you are truthful." (English - Mohsin Khan) Surah Qaf, Verse 18: مَّا يَلْفِظُ مِن قَوْلٍ إِلَّا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ Not a word does he (or she) utter, but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it). (English - Mohsin Khan)
"Ya Allah, bless our dear imam Mohamed Nasiruddin Al Albani, Make his grave very spacious, cool and with light. We ask you to shower much mercy on him and on the day of judgement reward him with Jannathul Firdous without any reckoning.
As for our dear Imam Shaykh Rabee, Ya Allah preserve him and keep him in good health and give us the ability to meet him often. And make us benefit much from his teachings".
Aameen Ya Allah.
Noor ul Ameen I am not an Ashari. I am a Salafi. But as a matter of fact; don't you think that sheikh Rabee has harshness in his point of view. Their is another video of sheikh Albani (R.A) in which he said that sheikh Rabee has harshness in his books.
Allahumma ameen
shah hussain Sheikh al Albaani has also praised Sheikh Rabee
Ameen
Allahumma Aameen
May Allah shower both of them with His Mercy
What a praiseworthy discussion. May Allah bless them and shower them with His mercy
I think Shaykh albani's logic is on point. May Allah have mercy upon him and grant him Jannah.
Being balanced
Ash- Shaykh Al- albaany❤
MashaAllah! I love how the Sheikh analyzes with detail and precision!
The beauty and manners of mountains of knowledge in discussing aqeedah.
If only more people could adopt these etiquettes
Shaykh Albani رحمه الله so smooth straight to the point. May Allah have mercy on him
Jazakallahu Khair for translating this
may Allah bless them both
may Allaah have mercy on Shaykh Muhammad Naasiruddeen al Albani
Masha Allah. May Allah Bless Both of Them. Ameen..!!
They Are Two Lions of Salafiyyah.
These both are Tawagheet😊
@@syedmoiinattawhiidii4309 Khariji dog
@@syedmoiinattawhiidii4309 Are you a kid ?
You can clearly see the difference between the two in their knowledge and wisdom. Sheikh Albani is on a whole different level.
Imran Seddiqi true
yes Sheykh Rabee hafidahou Allah is clearly more knowledgeable in the matters of groups and sects
Sheykh al Albani may allah have mercy on him was wrong on this one,
sufis asharis deobandis maturidis and all the other sects are clearly not from ahlu sunnah
rather they are innovators and people who follow their passions
@@user-dp3bb5df5l lol muqalid
محمد أبو بكر
How can you even say that when Sheik Rabi agreed with Imam al-Alabani concerning the Ashari? (And presumably maturidi on the same grounds)
The disagreement was whether we should assume the ruling of deviant Sufi groups should apply to Asharis by extension “because many of the Asharis (or so called Asharis) are part of the extreme Sufi groups. Imam al Albani simply corrected sheikh Rabi that we cannot do that as we are talking about Asharis as a whole and many are not extreme Sufis.
You appear to have not even understand the basic premise of what either sheikh is saying.
@@user-dp3bb5df5l You have clearly lost the point.
Eloquence, wisdom and structure. These are some of the wordings there is to be contributed to Shaykh Al Albani!
That was a teacher-student discussion.
May Allah-swt put imam albani in firdous-ameen
May Allah sobhanutala give jannah to this both sheikh barakallah fiqum
Mashallah al albani solid knowlege
The way sheikh Rabee responds tells you he is very hasty and is like he doesn't process what shaykh al Albani is saying, but when Al Albani may Allah have mercy on him replies it just tells you how close to Allah he is, calm and replies with Adab the way a real muslim should act Subhanallah
Masya-Allah
I agree with Shaykh Rabee in the regard that all the Maturidis/Hanafis which includes Barelwis and Deobandis are Sufis. Nowadays Hanafis and Sufis have become synonymous at least in my country in Pakistan. The thing is that Schools of thought like Hanafis and Sha'fis which were originally Sunnis in creed have associated themselves to Asha'ris and Maturidis and worst of all they have become Sufis. I have spent quite some time with both Deobandis and Bralwis (as I belong to a staunch brailwi family) Deobandis pretend that they are Sunnis and against grave- worshippers brailwis but in their roots to this day they are no better than Brailvis. The Main book of creed of Deobandis المهند على المفند clearly states that we believe that it is good to ask dead for help although our exact method is different from Brailwis, we consider that Grave of Rasool ul Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم is more sacred that the throne of Allah Almighty. They are similar views in that book and this book is the basis of Deoband and a textbook in their Madaris. While Brailwis openly state that Deobandis are not Sufis they are Blasphemous and only we are true Sufi and so called Sunis. Some Deobandis maybe due to Salafi influence or maybe to gain political support of Salafis against Brailwis pretend that we are people Tawheed and Sunnah and blah blah. The truth is they don't even let Salafis pray in their Mosques ( in some places) and mock their way of Praying according to Sunnah
Honestly I feel Shayke Nasir uddin albani rahimahullah was far more knowledgeable and insightful than Shayke Rabee ...
Imaam As-Safaareenee said: “What is meant by the madh-hab (belief) of the Salaf is that which the Companions, may Allaah be pleased with them, adhered to, as well as the distinguished ones who followed them upon goodness, their successors and the Imaams of the Religion - those who received testimony as to their leadership, were known for their great status in the Religion and whose words are taken by the people after the Salaf, apart from those who are accused of innovation or renowned for unacceptable ascriptions such as the Khawaarij, Rawaafid, Qadariyyah, Murji’ah, Jabariyyah, Jahmiyyah, Mu’atazilah, Karaamiyyah and those similar to them.” [5]
[5] Lawaami’-ul-Anwaar: (1/20)
I love Sheikh Rabee’...
Subtitle is very blur, almost can not see it
Assalaamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh, MashaAllah La Quwwata Illah Billah, this once again shows the balanced and fair approach of Sk. Nasiruddin Al Albani. And this exposes the weak and hatred filled approach of Rabi Al Madkhali. That is why the Madakhila till date do takfeer of everyone who doesn't agree with their ideology.
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square.
It's simple to conclude that. The subject is about 'errors' the mazhahib does not do errors except for the individual. But if the individual errored in the mazhahib he follows. - Salaf. than it is upon himself
Al-baani’s knowledge is superior to that of Madkhali
It is next level.
Not nice
So who is considered to be Ash'ari? All 3 Imams, except Imam Ahmad? What are major schools of creed in Islam?
Imam Malik believed in istiwaa. Non of the the 4 imams where ashari the movement started in the 9th century.
One must also remember that not all Sufis were like Ibn Arabi. There was a time when Tassawuf was grounded in the Quran and Sunnah however as with many thing people made Guloo. It is not fair make it seem as if all sufis throughout history were like Ibn Arabi, who in fact many Sufi and Ashari Shuyokh said was a kafir in his time. Many of the forerunners of Tasawwuf like Junaid Al Bahadadi, Bishir Al Hafi, and Abdul Qadir Jilani were men of the Sunnah but the put extra emphasis on the Heart and the Dikir of Allah etc..
Ok.
*All* of sufism is baatil and not from the way of the Salaf.
@@CGJUGO80 Yaa Akhi, Shaykh Al Islam ibn Taymiyyah belonged to a Sufi Order. Look at the history of Sufism. It is not how it is today, and even as of today, not all Sufis are pure evil.
Maalik studied among Sufis, Shaafi'i was a Sufi. Ibn Al Qayyam was a Sufi. Abu Hanifah studied Sufism for two years, and claims he would have been lost without it.
The point is, the concept of Sufism is spirituality, which is a key role in Islam. It's not everything, but key.
It is wrong to accuse all Sufis of being pure evil. I am not one, but it is only the Sufis who have deviated amd committed Bid'ah and Shirk.
Epic Brah
Akhi I agree with your original premise that not all Sufis were corrupt - and even some so called Sufis today are not bad. I grew up with them. It is incumbent upon me through maintaining the ties of kinship to sit with them and to eat with them.
However - please bring your daleel for saying all these great ulema were Sufi or part of a Tareeqa. To the best of my knowledge this is baatil / falsehood. There is no such authentic evidence and this is a lie spread against the giant ulema of Ahlus Sunnah. If I’m wrong then I’m happy to be corrected with proofs.
Epic Brah: You look lost. You need to sleep son
Assalamo aleykom. I love all of you. In Sahih Muslim [1847, chapter of obligation to stay with the majority (Jamaa) in period of fitna], the Prophet warns us about the predicators that invite people to hell and that we must stick to the majority of the Muslims.
It has been narrated on the authority of Hudhaifa b. al-Yaman who said: People used to ask the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) about the good times, but I used to ask him about bad times fearing lest they overtake me. I said: Messenger of Allah, we were in the midst of ignorance and evil, and then God brought us this good (time through Islam). Is there any bad time after this good one? He said: Yes. I asked: Will there be a good time again after that bad time? He said: Yes, but therein will be a hidden evil. I asked: What will be the evil hidden therein? He said: (That time will witness the rise of) the people who will adopt ways other than mine and seek guidance other than mine. You will know good points as well as bad points. I asked: Will there be a bad time after this good one? He said: Yes. (A time will come) when there will be people standing and inviting at the gates of Hell. Whoso responds to their call they will throw them into the fire. I said: Messenger of Allah, describe them for us. He said: All right. They will be a people having the same complexion as ours and speaking our language. I said: Messenger of Allah, what do you suggest if I happen to live in that time? He said: You should stick to the main body of the Muslims and their leader. I said: If they have no (such thing as the) main body and have no leader? He said: Separate yourself from all these factions, though you may have to eat the roots of trees until death comes to you and you are in this state.in Bukhari : Volume 9, Book 88, Number 206:
Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman:
The people used to ask Allah's Apostle about the good but I used to ask him about the evil lest I should be overtaken by them. So I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We were living in ignorance and in an (extremely) worst atmosphere, then Allah brought to us this good (i.e., Islam); will there be any evil after this good?" He said, "Yes." I said, 'Will there be any good after that evil?" He replied, "Yes, but it will be tainted (not pure.)'' I asked, "What will be its taint?" He replied, "(There will be) some people who will guide others not according to my tradition? You will approve of some of their deeds and disapprove of some others." I asked, "Will there be any evil after that good?" He replied, "Yes, (there will be) some people calling at the gates of the (Hell) Fire, and whoever will respond to their call, will be thrown by them into the (Hell) Fire." I said, "O Allah s Apostle! Will you describe them to us?" He said, "They will be from our own people and will speak our language." I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their Imam (ruler)." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an Imam (ruler)?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."
So, we have to stay with the Jamaa and not stray away with marginal groups, like neo-salafis and Ahbach. Allahumma Salli ala Muhammad.
Here you are again.
Who told you the Jamaa means the majority?
Change title to " Student with no patience interrupts teacher. "
This people are talking about madhab they don't know. Ajib
Sufism is from Islam and the sunnah. Ibn Taymiyya was a Qadiri-Sufi, Imam Dhahabi was Suhrawardi, Ibn Hajar was Shadili, Sultan Salahudin was Qadiri, Fatih Sultan Mehmed was Naqshbandi. How can sufism be against the sunnah? Who is Ahl al-Sunnah if not Sultan Salahudin or Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani? Al-Albani and Al-Madkhali havent reached one 10th of the level of these sufis but dare to attack them and call them deviant.
Ibn taymiyah was initially sufi in his early days but recognized the wrong of sufism and abandoned it and called for the rejection of sufi practises such as asking from graves of saints for example. May Allah guide you brother
@@thepantcoat7564 grave worship is sadly associated with Tasawwuf especially these days, but it is not from original Tasawwuf or the early and true Sufis
Madkhali is out of Ahlul Sunnah and may be out of Ahlul Qibla.
I seek refuge with Allaah from this enormous and grave speech which might be considered as takfir. Ittaqillaah you will be questioned about this claim and slander on the Day of Resurrection.
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 111:
... قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
..."Produce your proof if you are truthful."
(English - Mohsin Khan)
Surah Qaf, Verse 18:
مَّا يَلْفِظُ مِن قَوْلٍ إِلَّا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ
Not a word does he (or she) utter, but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it).
(English - Mohsin Khan)
And you are?