UV will break down regardless of color. White may reflect more but if there are not uv inhibitors added to it, it still won't last that long. some plastics use carbon black to block UV. There are agricultural fabrics that are designed to last years in full sun, and many of those are black
I like the cheaper and perhaps more UV resistant covers, and also perhaps UV resistant coatings, painted or sprayed on, but the wood end is not portable, which I would need on rented land or as a guest, or on land I intend to sell. So for me a major point of these things is portability. I want it to fit in the bed of a fullsize pickup and the wooden end would not do that.
Good idea!! What I did with my cheap tarp shelter- I used corrugated metal installed horizontally, and now it’s solid like a rock, and no more constant work and spending.
Mine is on a platform. I have commercial grain bag plastic. One side is brown, the other white. Go over the original with it. Stuff is made to be left in the field in cold and hot sun. I had another one with the clear cover. Couldn't kill it. Hot and very humid, though. A fire killed it. Lol
I've had a portable garage for almost 20 years. I went through tarps every 9 months because of the hot summers in California. I even placed a second cover over the original. UV and winds would wreck havoc. Company stopped making replacement covers. Bought a custom-made heavy vinyl cover that are used for trucking and it's held up for almost 10 years. I still use a second cover to help reduce UV degradation. I had to replace one end with plywood. I am finally going to have to replace the other end after this winter.
They stretched mine out. I had to take em off then I just use pieces of cardboard and small foam. Seems to be working but it’s still going to fail here soon. I’m on my 3rd now
I inherited the frame for one. Welded some tabs on. Screwed 1x4 to the tabs and steel roofing panels to that. It was the only building on the property the thieves couldn't get into.
I just ordered one and I'm thinking about welding the thing together and then screwing roofing tin to the inside to stiffen it up and then putting the tarp on the outside like normal. I'm going to lift the whole thing off the ground and put a platform on the back 10 ft and leave the front half dirt to park a tractor.
I often wonder about the other thieves, aka "property tax assessors" - people who make claims on property you bought and assembled, and tax you for the privilege of keeping it. I wonder since its "just a tarp" if they decide it isn't worth taxing. I know "barn buildings on skids" used to not be taxed in my area, but they've changed that recently. I really want to leave this planet. The government would have plenty of money if they didn't waste so much of it.
Nicely done! The addition of the door is an excellent idea. I have the same ShelterLogic garage and had the same problem. While I bought the replacement cover, I patched the tears with window/door flashing tape (6" wide, strong and sticks very well to the tarp) then added the new cover OVER the old one to spread out the stress points. 1.5 years later and all is good!
Luved this, mine blew apart couple weeks ago, just replaced cover and going to do same as you have done. One thing I do recommend from Nova Scotia Canada because I have dealt with many types of shelters, always get round cover versus peak type as there tends to be many small areas on peak type that collect small pools of water, then freezes, then accumulates snow which make them heavy and want to rip, much maintenance cleaning it off all the time. So rare with the round type virtually no accumulation what so ever.
HilARious comments. Long time boater here. Shrink wrap lasts about 3 years, longer than any tarp we tried. Next: get a gallon of house paint and roll the current cover. It will last for 10 years or more. There you have two solutions.
@kodiham7532 The high-end water based paints (behr marquis from HD, etc) have good adhesion and flexibility. $50 per gallon paint is cheap compared to extra labor and failed jobs. Those are two very important factors for this application. And spraying it on with an airless sprayer works great. Several very light coats, just until it's one solid color (use a different color paint from the tarp), just thick enough to block sunlight. Too thick will crack sooner and make a mess. I also mix clear ammonia with 10 parts water in a gallon pump up garden sprayer, coat the newish tarp, scrub with a soft car wash brush on a stick, and rinse well to remove the slick factory coating on the poly tarp material. Letting it weather a few months in the sun will make the paint adhere better. Of course, just buying roofing metal and screwing it to the frame is a once-and-done solution, but that may be too cheap and easy...😂
IF you are dead-set on continuing tarps or fabric... I have the VERY BEST solution of my lifetime for you... Search greenhouse supplies for a product called "wiggle wire" ... It is an aluminum channel and a wavy wire that goes with it. You attach the channel and lay the fabric across the channel. Then pull the fabric tight and install the "wiggle wire" to lock it into the channel... BY FAR the very best way of attaching fabric to pipe/plywood etc... Never tears our, never lets go. I have used it in so many applications (boat covers, tarp sheds, load covers on trailers etc.) works so very well. BUT, like others have said... throwing some framing to span the pipe (my preferred is METAL FRAMING STUDS) and then cover with metal roofing panels is the permanent solution.
I had the same issue, after 3 tarps split, I put a foundation dimpled membrane, you can get them in 10' widths. I got the 8' width and put 3 pieces that overlap. Anchored them at the bottom. So far so good.
What I did to make mine last longer living in central Florida was to paint mine with silicone white roof coating, so far 2 summers, looking good. I will apply a second coat before summer, give that a try.
I did not read all the comments, so maybe it has been mentioned already, use a billboard sign. Made of PVC, much thicker than a traditional tarp and will last years.
Your solutions look good as well. I had to put the old tarp over the new one to block sun and wind damage; it lasted and lasted... until high winds blew tree limbs onto it; a metal roof would've been damaged too though. Thanks for the fantastic tip.
So.... did you paint the OSB this past spring? Did the OSB hold up through the winter? (I'm guessing, probably not, since it wasn't at least primed.) How about your layering of tarps? Did that pan out? An updated video would be great! Love the end wall either way. In 87 days (spring) I will be putting up my 10'x20' shelter and combining all the wonderful ideas I found here from your experience and the input of the people who commented over the last 11 months. 🙌 Thanks!
You can keep adding the poly tarps but they will rot too.All your exposed parts, even near the bottom will rot too. On my old shed, I used a new bale tarp from Princess Auto and replaced it every 2 years. When I needed a bigger shed, I got a 22'X32' Shelter Logic shed with a heavy duty PVC tarp. Ten years in and it has held up very well. I also built wooden ends that are hidden under the original ends, and on one end I framed in a 13' garage door. The PVC is a lot more money but it is worth every penny.
its been almost a year already and the white tarp looks like I just put it on ....Im doing an update video soon ...it was a $50 tarp and 20x20 which was long enough but only comes halfway down the sides ....next one will be a 20x30 boat tarp that is about $100 to buy . cheap investment for at least a year at a time ....ill just keep layering them for a while lol Shelter logic sent me a new cover under warranty ...I sold it
How's she goin'? I like the cover you put on the Shelter Logic. I have done similar to an old temporary shelter I had. It sure makes a difference eh. The UV will rot tarps pretty quick, but it's a lot cheaper to replace the tarp than to replace the original top. I really like the door you added to the front. That is awesome and I bet it makes the whole shelter a lot more solid. My shelter will wobble from side to side, but with a front like yours, that movement would be gone totally. Nice mod and I think you're right, this will last 20 years now!! Take 'er easy!!
Nice work... pretty dangg schmart. I always had the rings rip out and made the tarp more and more useless, so had to get 1/2" tubing for along the entire sides, zip tie the rings to the tubing and secure the tubing down in a couple places. this way the the pulling force was distributed more so to the entire sides, rather than one ring here and there which would rip. I also use Titebond III glue, add water to it and use that as a waterproofing seal on plywood or OSB, especially along the ends that contact the ground area. Works great in sun and rain. Dries fast
@@schretien8714 Titebond III glue with water.... to thin out the glue. Roll it on. Ive done that with a lot of plywood that goes in direct sunlight and heavy rain. I learned that from a boat builder to prepare for rain.
@wavehaven1 whoops, I forgot to ask a dumb question...lol...could the same be done to pressure treated wood? (Even though it's pressure treated, the wood still does not last long!!)
@@schretien8714 Yes, The main areas to seal up are the ends ( end grain) where water soaks in the most on lumber and the sides of plywood so the wood doesn't de-laminate. Some Ranchers just use motor oil thinned with diesel as a wood preservative.
This is my first comment on any video, ever. Great video. So simple and an easy fix. I’ve replaced my cover with multiple tarps over the 8 years i’ve had my shelter logic and always had to replace them in the worst weather so I didn’t put much thought into it and the tarp would usually last a year. Love the front door. Great video
We have had ours for twelve years now. Went through two covers that lasted about four years each, but we will be putting pole barn steel over the frame this last time. That will likely last 50 years, and the cost is less than $500.00 with the steel from the Amish. We were going to cover both ends, but we just built a large building, and decided we didn't need 100% dry space, so we're going to leave the ends open.
Hi Sir, we had the same problem with Shelter Logic. The first shelter collapsed with two inches of snow on it. We bought a different shelter that has a white tarp fabric on it. I reinforced the corners with aluminium tape for ducting furnace and HVAC and such. Not duct tape, the wide sticky aluminum tape. That prevents chaffing and cracking of the tarp on the corners. It was a bit expensive, but worth it. Also, I applied some UV protection on the tarp.
I have to deal with this issue many times. The cheapest tents never last very long. I have changed several for friends. The full front door is a good idea, and I would suggest a wall without sheeting for the rear, to prevent movement, which can loosen stakes in ground. I have also poured footings to anchor with bolts to ground. The best solution is to find some recycled roofing sheets, and cover entire frame with metal. I made another shed into an insulated shed with clear sections along lower horizontal area for natural lighting, and a floating floor made from pallets and OSB on top. 🇨🇦👍
You want to upgrade that floor. Its a rodent palace. I like to put pavers on an inch of sand on the ground and i guess if you needed you could put vapor barrier down under the sand.
I had a similar experience with the canvas on my unit. I used pool noodles on the ridge poles, then a tarp before I installed the new canvas. I also have solid walls on both ends for security. I got three years of use in standard form, and seven years since my improvements. Best of luck to you.
Neighbor put cheap corrogated panels on a couple of the cheap Harbor Freight tent-garage frames, about 20 years ago and set T Post in concrete each corner to hold them down. They are still standing... That's far cheaper than constantly replacing the fabric.
Excellent solutions. The cheap extra tarp cover prevents UV deterioration of the expensive original cover. The primary source of cracking at the roof bends is flapping caused by wind (initiated by cover weakness from UV exposure). Your fender washer solution secures the perimeter of the original cover and the extra tarp cover and reduces wind flow and pressure differentials under and over the large, unsecured area of the cover and tarp which results in movement, stretching, chafing, and flapping, but does not eliminate them. The design problem is that penetrations in the cover which would better secure it to the frame would cause leaks and tears, so the manufacturer eliminates them. A Midwestern greenhouse grower has an excellent solution which is proven by the yurts and tents of nomadic herdsmen. The greenhouse grower and nomads pass ropes across large areas of covers, thereby securing all parts of their expanse without penetrations. It works for Nomads in extreme winds and in extreme climates. Synthetic ropes also have a UV problem. UV-resistant ropes are available for long-term exterior exposure. Adding ropes anchored at the ground and passed across the top of your hangar will reduce damage from inevitable movement and flapping in winds to almost nil.
Good video. I've been doing the same thing for years. I put a rope over the center of each span to reduce the lift/tearing inhigh winds. You can use swiming pool insulation(bubble wrap) to insulate the garage in winter. Good Luck, Rick
I have a 22x40 version I use for my main shop the secret to keeping the tarp for almost 16 yrs is to coat the top of the tarp with elastomer roof coating I prefer white and if you use the new polyurethane coating even better but at a higher cost option initially... the covers weakest point is the top the uv just destroys it the sides can last a lot longer... But they too can be coated in a latex paint and made to last I coat on a two year schedule by now the roof is nice and thick and is going no where... Any small tears can be repaired with gorilla black or white roofing tape and coated over.... I started with an older cover... But if you start with a new cover and coat it.... it will last indefinitely.
I have similar brand for a motorcycle. Has done the same thing. I learned you can't cinch them down too tight or they tear right on the corners. I also cut into squares a piece of the off cut that was included and used them as softeners on the corner tubes. It has helped.
I like the wall u built. I may try that on the back side of my tent garage, the windy side. My 2 yr old 10x20 garage tent was torn to heck during a wind storm a few weeks ago. Needing a fast fix, I got a 18x24 12 mil tarp off Amazon. They had thicker for a lot more. The prices were crazy. Some were over $200. I got mine for @$90. I used paracord and bungies to tie it down. I hope it lasts longer than 1 season.
Good job.. the Gray ones have a 1 year warranty and the brown covers have a 2-year warranty.. my brown one lasted about 3 years with the 13 x 20 barn style in Winnipeg.. my first one disintegrated in winter.. I think what you have to do is loosen It off a bit once it has shrunken a bit from the Sun.. good job on the end wall.. a little splash of paint and that should hold up for a while
Good idea I’ll have to do that to mine I don’t have any issues with mine at the moment, but at least I know that extra tarp will protect it from damage
I realize there's probably a comment or two on someone putting corrugated panels on these frames and concerns about zoning; that's not an issue where I live. I have two such frames and after ruining countless items stored in these buildings & replacing tarps I finally disassembled them. Now a couple years later I'm considering on erecting at least one and putting corrugated tin on it. Only now (if I do go though with it) I'll use thin walled angle iron to reinforce the frame, overlap it all w/ corrugated tin, spray foam for insulation, anchor it down and possibly pour a slab one bag at a time. We'll see. 😅
Update. Flex seal paint still making my shelter cover last as long as it's applied before the cover starts to rip. Better to apply it when kinda new. Luckely a replacement on Amazon is still around 300 but I'm holding off.
I did the same thing with mine, only I have a matching grey tarp. My unit is is shaded most of the time. I had no cracking like you, but it did have a few small leaks. It is working well!
We bought an acreage 5 years ago, and there was a tarped Quonset on the property. My opinion is that eventually snow/ice load stretches the fabric and creates wells which keep getting worse, until, as in our case the entire structure collapses. Luckily insurance covered our loss, but we replaced the building with a metal pole type building. (Had to go smaller to match the value of the tarp building, but I’m o.k. With that). You may want to put some kind of bracing between your poles, on the roof portion to mitigate this.
hello ssir.I would also advise taking foam rubber pipe insulation for the tubing,to stop tarp rubbing in wind.versioning is so important too.I'm a structural tent rigger,rope access climber and tree surgeon.stay safe lucky and dry.maddog.West cork.ireland
Good job. I’m looking to do the same thing to keep my small trailer and some of my items covered and protected from the elements without spending a lot of money.
Had same problem. Second material started to rip at same tight areas. Fix the top by rolling on rubberized white roof coating! And those tight stretch areas I put window screen material and rolled more coating over it 3 to 4 times! This worked!,, only problem is the sides and ends where I didn’t coat it has given out. No matter, I do plan on metal sheeting the whole thing soon . The frame is the only good thing about this product. And works well for turning it into a pre framed structure. Rubber roof coating is the cure . It works!
Well done ! I pretty much did the sand thing about three years ago , difference with mine is I was fortunate enough to be friends with someone that works on buildings like Webdy's & Hospitals. He brought me some of the aluminum siding they use , it's basically corrugated plastic covered with sheets of Aluminum and they come in various sizes but he got me some 5x7 & 5x10 sheets so I built a front similar to yours that covered it with this stuff and now the sides happy cause it's no longer the eyes sore in the neighborhood lol. Great minds right !!!
My guy, I've been using these for years in the same way, add another layer on top every few years. I always use a black tarp tho. Any lil bit of UV hitting it and it adds a bit of warmth. Enough that all the vehicles I've ever stored under one of these never gets moldy. Always had problems with moisture before I started with the black tarps. Vancouver Island so very moist climate.
I have the round top 12 x 24 shelterlogic and same problem, brand new and lasted 9 months on first tarp, shelterlogic sent a new one they offered the same upgrade choices for the same price as they did you, What I did I added a white 16mil thick tarp over the old one, then pulled the new one they sent up over the white tarp, took all the bottom bars off and folded the old tarp up so i could connect the new tarp and tightened it all down, its tight and 3 layers thick, will see how long it last.
Excellent video and isn't it nice to make something affordable better ! I have two similar units I'm about to assemble and modify of course ! They came with a white roof and no sides so looking forward to filling them up with toys ! ❤😉🙃😎 NZ
suggestion:: greenhouses put cris-crossed ropes along the tops and anchor them to the ground. This keeps the tarp from flapping and ripped. Looks like XXXXX from above
I've been thru a few of these. I always reinforce my unti with xtra heavy duty tarps. I still only get about 5 years at the most, a good storm took one out after only a year because I forgot to close the door.....Best I did was take 2) 17' Harbor freight frames and bolt them together then cover with 6 mil 4 year Greenhouse Film using wiggle wire ch.. That is on year 4 now and was a great greenhouse.
Replace elastics on one side with permanent light rope and hang weights or a heavy board on the other. The top will ALWAYS be tight. I also use a sacrificial tarp on top Thanks to all for great ideas.
Thanks Sparky. Great video. EXACT same here with our SL 12X20X8(quanset style). Saw a tear starting. 24 hours later it was "Spaghetti incident". Replaced it(another story) and it's failed(brown(more durable??)this time). I used same white 20x20 tarps(used 2 to go direct to ground) from CT. I like how you framed the end in, great job. Thanks for posting.
great video nice job on upgrade another hack is to put pipe wrap or a section of pool noodle around the stress points on the pipe keep up the good work!
Ratchet straps that run from the roof poles and over the center roof support in between the existing roof supports. Makes a huge difference supporting the roof. I also ran one down the length of the roof on each side to hold it together length ways too. 4 years and counting, nonissues.
My idea was to do the silicone and mineral spirits soaked in old bedsheets thing only lay the sheets wet across that tarp material so it bonds it right on. Will try it when im tired enough of adding tarps.
I found you have to ArmorAll the covers once a year for best results. But eventually all covers wear out. So get some 1x4s attached to it and cover it with corrugated metal and be done. You can use conduit pipe U-straps to hold the 1x4s on with screws.
Great idea. I put a plywood front on my LogicShelter three years ago and it's held up fine. I also put a $40 tarp over my second canvas this year. I built up the sides three feet with 1x6 pine and secure the tarp with 1x3 along the top of the pine sides. Your screws through the pipe is better than what I did. I secured the 2x4s with two drilled holes then twisted wire from there to secure the wood to the pipe. You have a great set-up. Looks very secure. Great doors on that thing.
I love your videos and thank you for posting them. Honestly, I love any advice about these shelterlogic tents because I got mine used a few years ago and have been parking my vintage car in it to keep sun and dust off it. I finally gave in a few years ago and actually applied wood to the roof however a year later the wood is warped and it looks like heck. I also priced the metal and no way. The wood holds the snow in Canadian winter, which is enough. Maybe I'll get inspired and shingle it over lol! I loved your design for the front door I was even planning something just like this myself great minds think alike! My right zipper is shot so looking for solutions found your videos. Thanks a bunch! Liked and subscribed!! As for those comments just delete em. Mostly spoiled rich Americans who have no clue what life costs in Canada!😅
I've been fighting the fake garage for many years. The thicker the tarp, the longer it lasts. My local hf store had a 12 mil thick tarp black one side and silver on the other. I can get maybe 2 years with luck. The wood end is great! After 20 years, my pipes are shot. Replacing with exhaust pipe. Turns out that if you cover the tarp with a canvas tarp, they don't flap and last years. Good idea in comments about sheet metal.
Thanks for the idea. If all goes right they might last 2 years out of the box. The one I have now had pin holes in it out of the box. I think I have gone through four. Originally I had two and now it's one. I do have a lot of useless pipe frame pieces.
I have had one for four years going on the forth winter. plenty of snow had to scrape off with a roof shovel. it’s getting ragged now some holes in the doorway but that’s my fault. Didn’t even know you could buy a replacement covers.. went out and got the same complete tent with the polls. still got the old one up. Getting ready to get rid of. It keeps everything dry inside but it’s looking pretty shabby but I might just buy a new cover for it. Oh yeah, mine is in yellow probably helps.
For the money spent on tarps I think I would’ve put it towards barn steel and steel the whole structure. It would last forever and add considerable strength
@@richie9214 I was thinking painted barn steel and just run the ribs the long way so it can follow the curvature of the steel structure. Butel tape the overlap ends.
Some cities have zoning about permanent structure so , keeping a tarp on it that is removable keep the nosy neighbors from rating you out. edit: true he might be better getting a construction permit and making this a pmt structure.
@@lepotdefleur9906 It's still considered temporary if it is not fastened to the ground or to any foundation. As long as it can be moved easily, considered temporary.
I live in wash state , I have spent so mutch time and money on those covers.The sun is the culprit. What I did was use conduit flaten the ends and add them to the existing frame .I used osb painted for the sides and tin roof no more issues.
Buy electrical conduit pipe and tech head screws. Flatten the ends of conduit cut to length as internal support members for support. Use a ten pound lump hammer and a nearby stump to flatten four inches on each end. You can round the ends with a 60 grit flap disc. Plant auger anchors can be used with cabling for wind support.
t. I had one given to me, it ;lasted one year before it tore. I went to an auction and bought a big hay tarp and recovered it. I also found a heavy duty truckers tarp that is going on in the spring.
I’m curious if you took rubber roof sealer from box store $50 a gallon and rolled it onto the tarp every 2 years or so. On mine I put gorilla tape on the inside where pipe meets the tarp. This reduces friction and prevents tears. You did great job
The best tarps I've found so far are the green "industrial" (not the typical cheap tarps) frim Menard's. I've had one on a jeep for 4 or 5 years now and it's still fine. Nothing else holds up that long The billboard vinyl and the old Menards grey "industrial" are good too but don't last as long and get pinholes when it's cold out.
We have a similar structure to keep tools in and the UV kept destroying every fabric we installed. Finally bought some metal roofing and skinned it with that. Never had a problem since. White does slow down the degradation somewhat but the bigger benefit is the reflection of heat. Shingle companies refuse to sell white because the dark colors break down quicker causing the shingles to have to be replaced quicker and they make more money.
This channel and episode just popped up. So happens I'm looking to put up a tarp structure just like this so you answered most of my questions. I may hold off and build a wood structure instead. It will go on a flat concrete driveway that I don't want to nail or drill into. Wind and city ordinance are a problem. I subscribed. Thanks from Idaho USA.
I just picked up *another* free one, at our town transfer station… reuse is best, these sorts of things are discarded all the time, keeping them from being garbage saves even more than money. That said, the hardware panel is great as a budget option, and also as a custom size/shape option rather than being limited to commercial size offerings. The non standard of which are sold at a premium!
Next size tarp is BETTER. To cover exposed ends of cover. Approx 30 shelters and 40 years worth of experience. For people with torn tarps. Consider buying a complete new shelter. Install the new poles in-between your existing poles. Huge reduction in tarp strain when snow is on top.As well as less tarp stress at each peak and roof to wall transition. Always use sacrificial tarps like in the great video. Fender washers great idea.
I’m going to attach 2x4’s in 3 rows across each slope and attach aluminum roof panels to the top. It will handle a snow load even with wind. The sides will still be used till is use panels on the sides.
We had our tent garage get ripped up due to a bad storm as well, but my area sees some freak winds (in Nova Scotia, on the coastline). I agree with the tarps they use though, they're garbage. Had I known more about having one before we bought and installed ours, I would've done a bit more to reinforce it before it took the beating and got destroyed. LOL Oh well, expensive, lesson learned. Thanks for sharing though! This is an approach worth taking for the cost and time it takes to unscrew and just layer on another tarp.
I put some pieces of cardboard between the cloth and the curved sections of the bars and it really helped with the rubbing through. Better yet old nylon slings cut up if you can find them. really like the front on yours, way better !
I have a big pc of rubber roofing salvaged of course, i noticed some water drops last week on my lumber shed, think im goin to pull it over the top & secure it like you did.
UV will break down regardless of color. White may reflect more but if there are not uv inhibitors added to it, it still won't last that long. some plastics use carbon black to block UV. There are agricultural fabrics that are designed to last years in full sun, and many of those are black
The good thing with using the white tarp is when it starts to deteriorate from the sun, it's SO MUCH cheaper to replace.
Ya I have a white one and it dont last any longer, you have to keep buying new covers. But I am at 9500ft up in the Rockies.
Thats one of 2 things you will never be able to beat, the other is water.
Add some sunlight and some moisture , and itll ruin anything eventually.
I like the cheaper and perhaps more UV resistant covers, and also perhaps UV resistant coatings, painted or sprayed on, but the wood end is not portable, which I would need on rented land or as a guest, or on land I intend to sell. So for me a major point of these things is portability. I want it to fit in the bed of a fullsize pickup and the wooden end would not do that.
You can get rattle cans of UV blocking clear coat. Spray that on once a year and UV should take a lot longer to mess things up.
Good idea!!
What I did with my cheap tarp shelter- I used corrugated metal installed horizontally, and now it’s solid like a rock, and no more constant work and spending.
Yep
Mine is on a platform. I have commercial grain bag plastic. One side is brown, the other white. Go over the original with it. Stuff is made to be left in the field in cold and hot sun.
I had another one with the clear cover. Couldn't kill it. Hot and very humid, though. A fire killed it. Lol
Haven't had my tent/shed for a year yet but the first time I have to make a roof repair I'm going to follow your example. Thanks. 👍
I've had a portable garage for almost 20 years. I went through tarps every 9 months because of the hot summers in California. I even placed a second cover over the original. UV and winds would wreck havoc. Company stopped making replacement covers. Bought a custom-made heavy vinyl cover that are used for trucking and it's held up for almost 10 years. I still use a second cover to help reduce UV degradation. I had to replace one end with plywood. I am finally going to have to replace the other end after this winter.
Steel tube and steel siding ends the hassles
pool noodles on the frame help the stress points and tear areas.
I lay those on the roof, when I tarp cars. It allows air to circulate.
They stretched mine out. I had to take em off then I just use pieces of cardboard and small foam. Seems to be working but it’s still going to fail here soon. I’m on my 3rd now
I inherited the frame for one. Welded some tabs on. Screwed 1x4 to the tabs and steel roofing panels to that. It was the only building on the property the thieves couldn't get into.
I just ordered one and I'm thinking about welding the thing together and then screwing roofing tin to the inside to stiffen it up and then putting the tarp on the outside like normal. I'm going to lift the whole thing off the ground and put a platform on the back 10 ft and leave the front half dirt to park a tractor.
I often wonder about the other thieves, aka "property tax assessors" - people who make claims on property you bought and assembled, and tax you for the privilege of keeping it. I wonder since its "just a tarp" if they decide it isn't worth taxing.
I know "barn buildings on skids" used to not be taxed in my area, but they've changed that recently.
I really want to leave this planet. The government would have plenty of money if they didn't waste so much of it.
I have one that I put metal roofing on it and had walls and end pieces made by a local tarp company, and it is holding up fine now.
Nicely done! The addition of the door is an excellent idea. I have the same ShelterLogic garage and had the same problem. While I bought the replacement cover, I patched the tears with window/door flashing tape (6" wide, strong and sticks very well to the tarp) then added the new cover OVER the old one to spread out the stress points. 1.5 years later and all is good!
I used pool noodles and sticky insulation strips on edges and also built a front and rear wood walls. I have had my tarp for over 10 yrs.
Luved this, mine blew apart couple weeks ago, just replaced cover and going to do same as you have done. One thing I do recommend from Nova Scotia Canada because I have dealt with many types of shelters, always get round cover versus peak type as there tends to be many small areas on peak type that collect small pools of water, then freezes, then accumulates snow which make them heavy and want to rip, much maintenance cleaning it off all the time. So rare with the round type virtually no accumulation what so ever.
HilARious comments. Long time boater here. Shrink wrap lasts about 3 years, longer than any tarp we tried. Next: get a gallon of house paint and roll the current cover. It will last for 10 years or more. There you have two solutions.
Any special paint? Oil base?
@kodiham7532 The high-end water based paints (behr marquis from HD, etc) have good adhesion and flexibility. $50 per gallon paint is cheap compared to extra labor and failed jobs. Those are two very important factors for this application. And spraying it on with an airless sprayer works great. Several very light coats, just until it's one solid color (use a different color paint from the tarp), just thick enough to block sunlight. Too thick will crack sooner and make a mess.
I also mix clear ammonia with 10 parts water in a gallon pump up garden sprayer, coat the newish tarp, scrub with a soft car wash brush on a stick, and rinse well to remove the slick factory coating on the poly tarp material. Letting it weather a few months in the sun will make the paint adhere better.
Of course, just buying roofing metal and screwing it to the frame is a once-and-done solution, but that may be too cheap and easy...😂
Thanks , so paint the tarp with waterproof paint @@122436Joe
IF you are dead-set on continuing tarps or fabric... I have the VERY BEST solution of my lifetime for you... Search greenhouse supplies for a product called "wiggle wire" ...
It is an aluminum channel and a wavy wire that goes with it. You attach the channel and lay the fabric across the channel. Then pull the fabric tight and install the "wiggle wire" to lock it into the channel...
BY FAR the very best way of attaching fabric to pipe/plywood etc... Never tears our, never lets go. I have used it in so many applications (boat covers, tarp sheds, load covers on trailers etc.) works so very well.
BUT, like others have said... throwing some framing to span the pipe (my preferred is METAL FRAMING STUDS) and then cover with metal roofing panels is the permanent solution.
That actually seems to be a great call.
I had the same issue, after 3 tarps split, I put a foundation dimpled membrane, you can get them in 10' widths. I got the 8' width and put 3 pieces that overlap. Anchored them at the bottom. So far so good.
What I did to make mine last longer living in central Florida was to paint mine with silicone white roof coating, so far 2 summers, looking good. I will apply a second coat before summer, give that a try.
The canvas sidings they use on big truck beds is the ticket man
I did not read all the comments, so maybe it has been mentioned already, use a billboard sign. Made of PVC, much thicker than a traditional tarp and will last years.
Great idea! Thanks for the tip.
Take-off billboards aren't readily available, are they? When I tried they seemed to be tightly controlled.
@@johne189 There are several sites that sell used billboards. Just search "used billboards"
good deal sparky.. the only problem i see iss you need to paint/seal the OSB here in Georgia that wouldnt last long at all. keep it up
it will get painted when the weather warms up
Solid doors on the end is a great idea.
Your solutions look good as well. I had to put the old tarp over the new one to block sun and wind damage; it lasted and lasted... until high winds blew tree limbs onto it; a metal roof would've been damaged too though.
Thanks for the fantastic tip.
So.... did you paint the OSB this past spring? Did the OSB hold up through the winter? (I'm guessing, probably not, since it wasn't at least primed.)
How about your layering of tarps? Did that pan out?
An updated video would be great! Love the end wall either way. In 87 days (spring) I will be putting up my 10'x20' shelter and combining all the wonderful ideas I found here from your experience and the input of the people who commented over the last 11 months. 🙌
Thanks!
You can keep adding the poly tarps but they will rot too.All your exposed parts, even near the bottom will rot too. On my old shed, I used a new bale tarp from Princess Auto and replaced it every 2 years. When I needed a bigger shed, I got a 22'X32' Shelter Logic shed with a heavy duty PVC tarp. Ten years in and it has held up very well. I also built wooden ends that are hidden under the original ends, and on one end I framed in a 13' garage door. The PVC is a lot more money but it is worth every penny.
its been almost a year already and the white tarp looks like I just put it on ....Im doing an update video soon ...it was a $50 tarp and 20x20 which was long enough but only comes halfway down the sides ....next one will be a 20x30 boat tarp that is about $100 to buy . cheap investment for at least a year at a time ....ill just keep layering them for a while lol Shelter logic sent me a new cover under warranty ...I sold it
How's she goin'? I like the cover you put on the Shelter Logic. I have done similar to an old temporary shelter I had. It sure makes a difference eh. The UV will rot tarps pretty quick, but it's a lot cheaper to replace the tarp than to replace the original top. I really like the door you added to the front. That is awesome and I bet it makes the whole shelter a lot more solid. My shelter will wobble from side to side, but with a front like yours, that movement would be gone totally. Nice mod and I think you're right, this will last 20 years now!! Take 'er easy!!
Did the same with both of ours years ago. Its been a wonderful thing, Like the front door.
Very nice job!! I have layered up my tarp garage too. Love the end wall, am going to mimic.
Nice work... pretty dangg schmart.
I always had the rings rip out and made the tarp more and more useless, so had to get 1/2" tubing for along the entire sides, zip tie the rings to the tubing and secure the tubing down in a couple places. this way the the pulling force was distributed more so to the entire sides, rather than one ring here and there which would rip.
I also use Titebond III glue, add water to it and use that as a waterproofing seal on plywood or OSB, especially along the ends that contact the ground area. Works great in sun and rain. Dries fast
Glue the entire board (with water) as a seal? We have a direct sun, humidity, & rain problem not to mention straight line winds....
@@schretien8714 Titebond III glue with water.... to thin out the glue. Roll it on. Ive done that with a lot of plywood that goes in direct sunlight and heavy rain. I learned that from a boat builder to prepare for rain.
@@wavehaven1Thank you so much!!
@wavehaven1 whoops, I forgot to ask a dumb question...lol...could the same be done to pressure treated wood? (Even though it's pressure treated, the wood still does not last long!!)
@@schretien8714 Yes, The main areas to seal up are the ends ( end grain) where water soaks in the most on lumber and the sides of plywood so the wood doesn't de-laminate. Some Ranchers just use motor oil thinned with diesel as a wood preservative.
This is my first comment on any video, ever. Great video. So simple and an easy fix. I’ve replaced my cover with multiple tarps over the 8 years i’ve had my shelter logic and always had to replace them in the worst weather so I didn’t put much thought into it and the tarp would usually last a year. Love the front door. Great video
thanks for watching and commenting
Suggest you try using Flex Tape to reinforce or patch tears in your cover. Comes in 4" wide by 5' long rolls. Comes clear and black.
We have had ours for twelve years now. Went through two covers that lasted about four years each, but we will be putting pole barn steel over the frame this last time. That will likely last 50 years, and the cost is less than $500.00 with the steel from the Amish. We were going to cover both ends, but we just built a large building, and decided we didn't need 100% dry space, so we're going to leave the ends open.
Hi Sir, we had the same problem with Shelter Logic. The first shelter collapsed with two inches of snow on it. We bought a different shelter that has a white tarp fabric on it. I reinforced the corners with aluminium tape for ducting furnace and HVAC and such. Not duct tape, the wide sticky aluminum tape. That prevents chaffing and cracking of the tarp on the corners. It was a bit expensive, but worth it. Also, I applied some UV protection on the tarp.
Good job i got one from harbor freight that got wind damaged, your video inspired me to think outside the box and diy it my own way thanks
That's awesome, glad you found the video helpful!
I have to deal with this issue many times. The cheapest tents never last very long. I have changed several for friends.
The full front door is a good idea, and I would suggest a wall without sheeting for the rear, to prevent movement, which can loosen stakes in ground.
I have also poured footings to anchor with bolts to ground.
The best solution is to find some recycled roofing sheets, and cover entire frame with metal. I made another shed into an insulated shed with clear sections along lower horizontal area for natural lighting, and a floating floor made from pallets and OSB on top.
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You want to upgrade that floor. Its a rodent palace. I like to put pavers on an inch of sand on the ground and i guess if you needed you could put vapor barrier down under the sand.
I had a similar experience with the canvas on my unit. I used pool noodles on the ridge poles, then a tarp before I installed the new canvas. I also have solid walls on both ends for security. I got three years of use in standard form, and seven years since my improvements. Best of luck to you.
Neighbor put cheap corrogated panels on a couple of the cheap Harbor Freight tent-garage frames, about 20 years ago and set T Post in concrete each corner to hold them down. They are still standing...
That's far cheaper than constantly replacing the fabric.
For zoning reasons that won't work here
Excellent solutions. The cheap extra tarp cover prevents UV deterioration of the expensive original cover. The primary source of cracking at the roof bends is flapping caused by wind (initiated by cover weakness from UV exposure). Your fender washer solution secures the perimeter of the original cover and the extra tarp cover and reduces wind flow and pressure differentials under and over the large, unsecured area of the cover and tarp which results in movement, stretching, chafing, and flapping, but does not eliminate them. The design problem is that penetrations in the cover which would better secure it to the frame would cause leaks and tears, so the manufacturer eliminates them. A Midwestern greenhouse grower has an excellent solution which is proven by the yurts and tents of nomadic herdsmen. The greenhouse grower and nomads pass ropes across large areas of covers, thereby securing all parts of their expanse without penetrations. It works for Nomads in extreme winds and in extreme climates. Synthetic ropes also have a UV problem. UV-resistant ropes are available for long-term exterior exposure. Adding ropes anchored at the ground and passed across the top of your hangar will reduce damage from inevitable movement and flapping in winds to almost nil.
Good video. I've been doing the same thing for years. I put a rope over the center of each span to reduce the lift/tearing inhigh winds. You can use swiming pool insulation(bubble wrap) to insulate the garage in winter. Good Luck, Rick
Good idea on the rope and swiming pool insulation!
That's exactly what I did, the white tarp will last a long time. Great job on the front door. That will be my next up grade, Thanks for the idea.
Great video! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I have a 22x40 version I use for my main shop the secret to keeping the tarp for almost 16 yrs is to coat the top of the tarp with elastomer roof coating I prefer white and if you use the new polyurethane coating even better but at a higher cost option initially... the covers weakest point is the top the uv just destroys it the sides can last a lot longer... But they too can be coated in a latex paint and made to last I coat on a two year schedule by now the roof is nice and thick and is going no where... Any small tears can be repaired with gorilla black or white roofing tape and coated over.... I started with an older cover... But if you start with a new cover and coat it.... it will last indefinitely.
I have similar brand for a motorcycle. Has done the same thing. I learned you can't cinch them down too tight or they tear right on the corners. I also cut into squares a piece of the off cut that was included and used them as softeners on the corner tubes. It has helped.
I replaced my sons portable garage with tin roofing and zotted them on with teck screws. for the back I had some old metal garage doors.
I like the wall u built. I may try that on the back side of my tent garage, the windy side.
My 2 yr old 10x20 garage tent was torn to heck during a wind storm a few weeks ago.
Needing a fast fix, I got a 18x24 12 mil tarp off Amazon. They had thicker for a lot more.
The prices were crazy. Some were over $200. I got mine for @$90.
I used paracord and bungies to tie it down. I hope it lasts longer than 1 season.
Good job.. the Gray ones have a 1 year warranty and the brown covers have a 2-year warranty.. my brown one lasted about 3 years with the 13 x 20 barn style in Winnipeg.. my first one disintegrated in winter.. I think what you have to do is loosen It off a bit once it has shrunken a bit from the Sun.. good job on the end wall.. a little splash of paint and that should hold up for a while
I did the same thing years ago to a bigger one and it held up much better.
Im doing an update video soon ...been almost a year and still looks great
Good idea I’ll have to do that to mine I don’t have any issues with mine at the moment, but at least I know that extra tarp will protect it from damage
I realize there's probably a comment or two on someone putting corrugated panels on these frames and concerns about zoning; that's not an issue where I live. I have two such frames and after ruining countless items stored in these buildings & replacing tarps I finally disassembled them. Now a couple years later I'm considering on erecting at least one and putting corrugated tin on it. Only now (if I do go though with it) I'll use thin walled angle iron to reinforce the frame, overlap it all w/ corrugated tin, spray foam for insulation, anchor it down and possibly pour a slab one bag at a time. We'll see. 😅
I did the same but with an extra thick grey tarp. I put a coat of Flex Seal paint on the original cover before I placed the protective cover over it.
Update. Flex seal paint still making my shelter cover last as long as it's applied before the cover starts to rip. Better to apply it when kinda new. Luckely a replacement on Amazon is still around 300 but I'm holding off.
Good Job! That's a great fix!!! Thanks for sharing. Watching from NB🇨🇦
I did the same thing with mine, only I have a matching grey tarp. My unit is is shaded most of the time. I had no cracking like you, but it did have a few small leaks. It is working well!
We bought an acreage 5 years ago, and there was a tarped Quonset on the property. My opinion is that eventually snow/ice load stretches the fabric and creates wells which keep getting worse, until, as in our case the entire structure collapses. Luckily insurance covered our loss, but we replaced the building with a metal pole type building. (Had to go smaller to match the value of the tarp building, but I’m o.k. With that). You may want to put some kind of bracing between your poles, on the roof portion to mitigate this.
I always push on the inside roof after every snowfall to get it to slide off
hello ssir.I would also advise taking foam rubber pipe insulation for the tubing,to stop tarp rubbing in wind.versioning is so important too.I'm a structural tent rigger,rope access climber and tree surgeon.stay safe lucky and dry.maddog.West cork.ireland
Thanks for the tip!
Good job. I’m looking to do the same thing to keep my small trailer and some of my items covered and protected from the elements without spending a lot of money.
Had same problem. Second material started to rip at same tight areas. Fix the top by rolling on rubberized white roof coating! And those tight stretch areas I put window screen material and rolled more coating over it 3 to 4 times! This worked!,, only problem is the sides and ends where I didn’t coat it has given out. No matter, I do plan on metal sheeting the whole thing soon . The frame is the only good thing about this product. And works well for turning it into a pre framed structure. Rubber roof coating is the cure . It works!
Well done ! I pretty much did the sand thing about three years ago , difference with mine is I was fortunate enough to be friends with someone that works on buildings like Webdy's & Hospitals. He brought me some of the aluminum siding they use , it's basically corrugated plastic covered with sheets of Aluminum and they come in various sizes but he got me some 5x7 & 5x10 sheets so I built a front similar to yours that covered it with this stuff and now the sides happy cause it's no longer the eyes sore in the neighborhood lol. Great minds right !!!
My guy, I've been using these for years in the same way, add another layer on top every few years. I always use a black tarp tho. Any lil bit of UV hitting it and it adds a bit of warmth. Enough that all the vehicles I've ever stored under one of these never gets moldy. Always had problems with moisture before I started with the black tarps. Vancouver Island so very moist climate.
I have the round top 12 x 24 shelterlogic and same problem, brand new and lasted 9 months on first tarp, shelterlogic sent a new one they offered the same upgrade choices for the same price as they did you, What I did I added a white 16mil thick tarp over the old one, then pulled the new one they sent up over the white tarp, took all the bottom bars off and folded the old tarp up so i could connect the new tarp and tightened it all down, its tight and 3 layers thick, will see how long it last.
Excellent video and isn't it nice to make something affordable better ! I have two similar units I'm about to assemble and modify of course ! They came with a white roof and no sides so looking forward to filling them up with toys ! ❤😉🙃😎 NZ
suggestion:: greenhouses put cris-crossed ropes along the tops and anchor them to the ground. This keeps the tarp from flapping and ripped. Looks like XXXXX from above
I've been thru a few of these. I always reinforce my unti with xtra heavy duty tarps. I still only get about 5 years at the most, a good storm took one out after only a year because I forgot to close the door.....Best I did was take 2) 17' Harbor freight frames and bolt them together then cover with 6 mil 4 year Greenhouse Film using wiggle wire ch.. That is on year 4 now and was a great greenhouse.
Good ideas ...the white tarp looks as good as the day I put it on and its been close to a year already ....
Replace elastics on one side with permanent light rope and hang weights or a heavy board on the other. The top will ALWAYS be tight. I also use a sacrificial tarp on top
Thanks to all for great ideas.
Thanks Sparky. Great video. EXACT same here with our SL 12X20X8(quanset style). Saw a tear starting. 24 hours later it was "Spaghetti incident". Replaced it(another story) and it's failed(brown(more durable??)this time). I used same white 20x20 tarps(used 2 to go direct to ground) from CT. I like how you framed the end in, great job.
Thanks for posting.
Shrink wrap is the best thing I've found it stays taught and lasts years
great video nice job on upgrade another hack is to put pipe wrap or a section of pool noodle around the stress points on the pipe keep up the good work!
Nice I put paracord in a x pattern between the posts to stop pooling and whipping in the wind on the roof also snow
A good presentation. Good. Thank you.
Ratchet straps that run from the roof poles and over the center roof support in between the existing roof supports. Makes a huge difference supporting the roof. I also ran one down the length of the roof on each side to hold it together length ways too. 4 years and counting, nonissues.
That's a great tip! Thanks for sharing!
Nice job Sparky you saved a lot of money but in that you made it so much better
My idea was to do the silicone and mineral spirits soaked in old bedsheets thing only lay the sheets wet across that tarp material so it bonds it right on. Will try it when im tired enough of adding tarps.
That was awesome Sparky. Thanks so much for this post. I bet you are helping a lot of us.
I found you have to ArmorAll the covers once a year for best results. But eventually all covers wear out. So get some 1x4s attached to it and cover it with corrugated metal and be done. You can use conduit pipe U-straps to hold the 1x4s on with screws.
Great idea. I put a plywood front on my LogicShelter three years ago and it's held up fine. I also put a $40 tarp over my second canvas this year. I built up the sides three feet with 1x6 pine and secure the tarp with 1x3 along the top of the pine sides. Your screws through the pipe is better than what I did. I secured the 2x4s with two drilled holes then twisted wire from there to secure the wood to the pipe. You have a great set-up. Looks very secure. Great doors on that thing.
its been almost a year already and the white tarp still looks like the day I installed it ....osb is painted grey now
@@sparkys506adventures4 That's great. It's a great system you have. Thanks for posting that video.
Great job on that tent 👌🏽
Thanks, I’m happy with how it turned out!
Looks good, a cheap way to strengthen it up, will be definitely be using your ideas thanks
You’re welcome, glad you liked the video!
I love your videos and thank you for posting them. Honestly, I love any advice about these shelterlogic tents because I got mine used a few years ago and have been parking my vintage car in it to keep sun and dust off it. I finally gave in a few years ago and actually applied wood to the roof however a year later the wood is warped and it looks like heck. I also priced the metal and no way. The wood holds the snow in Canadian winter, which is enough. Maybe I'll get inspired and shingle it over lol! I loved your design for the front door I was even planning something just like this myself great minds think alike! My right zipper is shot so looking for solutions found your videos. Thanks a bunch! Liked and subscribed!!
As for those comments just delete em. Mostly spoiled rich Americans who have no clue what life costs in Canada!😅
thanks for watching and commenting and subbing !!
I've been fighting the fake garage for many years. The thicker the tarp, the longer it lasts. My local hf store had a 12 mil thick tarp black one side and silver on the other. I can get maybe 2 years with luck. The wood end is great! After 20 years, my pipes are shot. Replacing with exhaust pipe. Turns out that if you cover the tarp with a canvas tarp, they don't flap and last years. Good idea in comments about sheet metal.
Thanks for the idea. If all goes right they might last 2 years out of the box. The one I have now had pin holes in it out of the box. I think I have gone through four. Originally I had two and now it's one. I do have a lot of useless pipe frame pieces.
I have had one for four years going on the forth winter. plenty of snow had to scrape off with a roof shovel. it’s getting ragged now some holes in the doorway but that’s my fault. Didn’t even know you could buy a replacement covers.. went out and got the same complete tent with the polls. still got the old one up. Getting ready to get rid of. It keeps everything dry inside but it’s looking pretty shabby but I might just buy a new cover for it. Oh yeah, mine is in yellow probably helps.
Nicely and economically done.
For the money spent on tarps I think I would’ve put it towards barn steel and steel the whole structure. It would last forever and add considerable strength
Thinking the same thing, put on galvanized roofing horizontal.
@@richie9214 I was thinking painted barn steel and just run the ribs the long way so it can follow the curvature of the steel structure. Butel tape the overlap ends.
Some cities have zoning about permanent structure so , keeping a tarp on it that is removable keep the nosy neighbors from rating you out.
edit: true he might be better getting a construction permit and making this a pmt structure.
@@lepotdefleur9906 It's still considered temporary if it is not fastened to the ground or to any foundation. As long as it can be moved easily, considered temporary.
I'm going to re-do mine with metal roofing. I have one of the round top styles from Menards. I like the ends you built. I will have to do the same.
That sounds like a great way to make it more durable.
Curved uprights, making a Gothic arch shape avoid the high-stress corners where your tarp rips, and let you draw it all tight to avoid flapping.
Wow...very nice fix. no question.
I live in wash state , I have spent so mutch time and money on those covers.The sun is the culprit. What I did was use conduit flaten the ends and add them to the existing frame .I used osb painted for the sides and tin roof no more issues.
Buy electrical conduit pipe and tech head screws. Flatten the ends of conduit cut to length as internal support members for support. Use a ten pound lump hammer and a nearby stump to flatten four inches on each end. You can round the ends with a 60 grit flap disc. Plant auger anchors can be used with cabling for wind support.
Great ideas !!!
t. I had one given to me, it ;lasted one year before it tore. I went to an auction and bought a big hay tarp and recovered it. I also found a heavy duty truckers tarp that is going on in the spring.
I’m curious if you took rubber roof sealer from box store $50 a gallon and rolled it onto the tarp every 2 years or so. On mine I put gorilla tape on the inside where pipe meets the tarp. This reduces friction and prevents tears. You did great job
that could work
The best tarps I've found so far are the green "industrial" (not the typical cheap tarps) frim Menard's. I've had one on a jeep for 4 or 5 years now and it's still fine. Nothing else holds up that long The billboard vinyl and the old Menards grey "industrial" are good too but don't last as long and get pinholes when it's cold out.
We have a similar structure to keep tools in and the UV kept destroying every fabric we installed. Finally bought some metal roofing and skinned it with that. Never had a problem since. White does slow down the degradation somewhat but the bigger benefit is the reflection of heat. Shingle companies refuse to sell white because the dark colors break down quicker causing the shingles to have to be replaced quicker and they make more money.
Great fix man just need about 20 coats of paint on that osb I think 🤔 may gray lol looks good man.
Way cool sir!!! Thanks I have about the same setup, and when I get my place Lord's willing I will do the same!!!
This channel and episode just popped up. So happens I'm looking to put up a tarp structure just like this so you answered most of my questions. I may hold off and build a wood structure instead. It will go on a flat concrete driveway that I don't want to nail or drill into. Wind and city ordinance are a problem.
I subscribed. Thanks from Idaho USA.
I just picked up *another* free one, at our town transfer station… reuse is best, these sorts of things are discarded all the time, keeping them from being garbage saves even more than money.
That said, the hardware panel is great as a budget option, and also as a custom size/shape option rather than being limited to commercial size offerings. The non standard of which are sold at a premium!
Next size tarp is BETTER. To cover exposed ends of cover. Approx 30 shelters and 40 years worth of experience.
For people with torn tarps. Consider buying a complete new shelter. Install the new poles in-between your existing poles. Huge reduction in tarp strain when snow is on top.As well as less tarp stress at each peak and roof to wall transition. Always use sacrificial tarps like in the great video. Fender washers great idea.
I’m going to attach 2x4’s in 3 rows across each slope and attach aluminum roof panels to the top. It will handle a snow load even with wind. The sides will still be used till is use panels on the sides.
After the original tarp was done. I used a role of 6mm poly to cover it again. But I use chicken wire under the tarp. Keeps it from sagging .
We had our tent garage get ripped up due to a bad storm as well, but my area sees some freak winds (in Nova Scotia, on the coastline). I agree with the tarps they use though, they're garbage. Had I known more about having one before we bought and installed ours, I would've done a bit more to reinforce it before it took the beating and got destroyed. LOL Oh well, expensive, lesson learned. Thanks for sharing though! This is an approach worth taking for the cost and time it takes to unscrew and just layer on another tarp.
I put some pieces of cardboard between the cloth and the curved sections of the bars and it really helped with the rubbing through. Better yet old nylon slings cut up if you can find them. really like the front on yours, way better !
I plywooded mine then used heavy duty tarps to cover ut 3 layers thick last one being army canvas. No problems since
I have a big pc of rubber roofing salvaged of course, i noticed some water drops last week on my lumber shed, think im goin to pull it over the top & secure it like you did.
Great job. I will be doing something like this.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Great job!
Nice hack Sparky. All the best in 2024 for you & the missus. Take care & stay safe.