002 - Ashy Lips and Devine Debates | THE SPEAKEEZY Podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- In this unforgettable episode of "The Speakeezy," join Berlin, PG, and Joe as they navigate through a rollercoaster of emotions, from laughter to deep reflections. They share personal tales that range from comically tragic moments of ashy lips and unexpected blindness to profound discussions on spirituality and the essence of self-belief. Witness how they dissect the impact of social media on our lives and ponder the journey of content creation and the quest for new passions. Sprinkled with their unique humor and insightful observations, this episode is a testament to the bond of The Eezy Gang and their ability to tackle life's unpredictability with grace and good spirits. Tune in for a mix of hilarity, sincerity, and everything in between.
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00:21 Casual conversation and banter among friends.
02:47 Reflecting on life's highs and lows
07:03 Texans panicking about 30-degree weather
09:09 Discussing the fear of cold weather
13:50 Discussion about a statement and its impact on others
15:54 Experienced temporary blindness during gaming.
19:38 Discussing their experience with the freeze
21:25 Discussion about food choices in Austin
24:55 Discussing favorite movies during snow blizzard
26:53 Discussing favorite movies and personal script writing
30:35 Discussion about the blue pill and red pill
32:35 Discussion about recent music video controversy
36:21 Discussion about religious themes and criticism
38:08 Discussion about representing Jesus and religious beliefs
41:53 Discussion about dissecting and interpreting videos on TH-cam
43:35 Cat Williams addressing comedian issues
47:24 Content creation and art inspiration
49:09 Concern about originality and fairness
52:38 Transition from hobby to industry in content creation
54:32 Transition from bartending to streaming with a passion for music and connections with regulars
58:00 Memorable interactions from school days
59:39 Recalling funny moments from school
1:03:12 Transitioning from gaming to DJing and personal growth
1:05:10 Belief in self and manifestation leads to achieving desires.
1:09:07 Finding joy in gaming and content creation
1:10:57 Embracing growth and finding joy in gaming
This man Joe is really proving himself as the funniest member of eezygang with these podcast episodes
Facts. Joe and Berlin had me crying
Kinda facts, and he twitching like a coke head low key 😂 hilarious energy
Always has been
It’s been proven. He’s a natural. Every friend group has that one who’s naturally funny. it’s Joe
him and dontai are fs the comedians
berlin and joe arguing with pg silently wheezing in the back is the best part of this😭😂
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I love it its the best part I lowkey replayed it like 20 times 😂😂
I swear bro PG LOVES WHEN JOE AND BERLIN ARGUE AND HE IN STANDBY CRACKIN UPPPPP😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
i be laughing w him LMAOO
This man Joe really said “Jack Sparrow” then proceeded to sing the Game of Thrones theme. I’m crying 😭😂😂
I just caught that lmfaoooo
😂Nah he wrong for that
Omgggg i really was like "yeah pirates" i cant believe
Ahhhhh your right 😂😂 I was about to say nahhh thats P.O.T.C for sure but both themes sound similar lwk
pg be folding himself up in his chair like he’s so petite and delicate, and honestly i live for it
Petite is wild
right i wanna tickle bros feet
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Ayo ?? Petite and delicate ??
i love this podcast
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how is this comment from 1d ago when it was uploaded a few hours ago
watching joe kick his feet around every time a joke hit be killing me bro 😂
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need to make an intro beat for the podcast fr
berlin was asking why the general public disrespects christianity more than any other religion and i want to give my perspective on the take:
Christianity is the most popular religion practiced in america, so it’s often perceived as the “default” religion. especially in the south(from my experience) it’s either you’re christian or you worship the devil. there has been a few times where i have mentioned that i’m agnostic and a persons reply will be “i’ll pray for you”, as if i’m in danger or like they just found that i was diagnosed with a terminal illness.
one of the worser cases of mine is as a kid me and my family would go to our local church and my mother was called a “hard r lover” because of her biracial children. that had to be the last time we attended church since.
i am no way defending those who hate on a particular religion, but i can see their perspective.
i’ve watched berlin for a good 4-5 years now and him speaking on his faith and using his religion to spread positivity and love is proof that there are genuine people out there and we shouldn’t hate a religion based on a few bad experiences.
Well said
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Jesus literally said the world has hated him it will hate you also because you follow him, Christ. People hate the truth most people hate Christianity mainly because they don’t want to follow rules and don’t care to try to understand the word. The devil will try his best to deceive us to stray away from Christ.
Some christians do way too much some could push people away from getting that person close to God. Some say u can’t watch tv or play games anymore. U can just spend some time with God. We are not perfect God knows that but we should at least try to be perfect for him don’t beat ourselves up because we fail just ask for forgiveness.
@@EstPlayground as i mentioned, i am not religious. my comment was for berlin to understand our perspective, not for you to banter about christianity to me.
i am perfectly capable of having good morals and following rules without practicing religion, that’s definitely not the reason why people turn their backs on religion. as many said in this comment section, it’s because of religious trauma and hate from the community because they use their religion to be hateful and negative. so i respectfully disagree.
yeah i think it’s also the fact that white people used Christianity to make degrading, dehumanizing, and abusing other groups of people like native Americans seem justifiable in the past.
To Berlin’s Point about criticizing christianity:
I dont think its so much that people are criticizing Jesus himself, but more the people who use Jesus as a “shield” to validate their disrespect for other people. My problem specifically with Christianity is that there are some people who will use their religion to justify hate and THAT is just as disrespectful as people who are dishonoring Jesus. Plus there are a lot of people, especially people in the LGBTQ+ community, who have been subjected to hateful Christians and so once they get out of that toxic environment they feel that the religion itself is to blame and not the terrible people.
TELL HIM 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They really need to wake tf up
A religion at its base is a tool used to manipulate people to think and behave in a certain way. Don't be sheep please.
Growing up Christian (I'm not Christian anymore) I have never felt more disrespect from anywhere but the Christian community and that's just as being born a woman. I'm a gay trans guy, I would've been stoned in Texas. It's weird they wouldn't see all the hate Christianity in itself has created and is rooted in but can see when someone would dislike it but not the "why".
Christians are getting bullied because the community tolerates unchristian behavior. They aren't getting prosecuted. they're the prosecutors. That's just facts.
If a person is a true Christian then it's something you gotta acknowledge and stand up above it all and hold your beliefs true. Not criticize why people who are affected by Christianity negatively make the commentary they do.
@@peoplesourmyvibes beautifully said
This is very true. Anything evil though is not of God. My savior kissed the feet of beggars and died for the sins of the unworthy. I understand that people could get the wrong impression of Christianity from their experiences but I would implore anyone to research it. The more you learn, the better your life will become.
PG feet were dangling while seating in the chair. 😂
Right, dude face got so red I was like, yeah this dude is crying like me XDDD
y’all gone leave pg and his dangling feet alone 😂😂😂😂😂
@@asiyaayenda9717they been on this man about it for years it's insane 😂
@@asiyaayenda9717 😂😂
@@prfcthell It's so funny hehe. Aint nothing but a good giggle at his feet.😄❤
“The birthday bro “ dry hump was wildddd😂😂
To comment on the Lil Nas situation and the pushback towards Christians- I think a lot of it has to do with the usage of Christianity throughout history.
Christianity was used as a form of oppression and justification for things like slavery and colonization, as these colonizers would claim it as "God's will" and their "Divine right". I'm from the Caribbean and during history class in secondary school we learned about how colonizers would forcibly convert the indigenous population, and later enslaved Africans (despite them already having their own gods) and if they refused to comply they would be tortured or killed. Christianity was also (and a lot of the time, still is) used to demonize those in the LGBTQIA+ community.
I was raised Christian but over time I've become more spiritual, I still have respect for Christianity as a religion but I can see why many are opposed to it due to its unfortunate usage. I think a lot of people look at Christianity and pinpoint it to radical Christians who disrespect and look down on others, especially those of different faiths. It's really sad because the lengths that _this_ specific group of Christians go to in a way goes against what the bible teaches, especially in the aspect of "Loving thy neighbour".
I believe that Christianity, like any other religion, should be respected- but at the same time, I can somewhat understand where these people are coming from. Why respect a religion that was used in bad faith for over a millennia? Why respect a religion that excludes and looks down on those with a differing sexual orientation from the "norm"? Why respect a religion consisting of people who call other religions "fake" and tell those believers that they'll go to hell?
I think that a lot of the hate and disrespect you see recently towards Christianity is more pointed at its use throughout history, and specific people who practise it, and not so much to do with its contents.
That's my observation anyway. Imo I don't know what the point of using Christian imagery in his music video was for. I didn't see the point. It's not even coming from a place of me being offended I just don't know why he'd choose it instead of going for something else.
this is a great synopsis and comment 🙌🏾
amazing comment
completely agree, i'm a Christian but i completely understand why so many people turn away and criticize my faith. and i dont hate anyone for their decision neither. it's the way Christianity is intended to be, i believe.
Thank you for saying this, I came here looking for this comment. I feel bad for believers that approach, learn and talk about Christianity in good faith because they tend to catch a lot of strays from critics. On the other hand, Christianity as a social philosophy has caused and continues to cause harm to many marginalized people (most recently anti-trans law and the limitation of reproductive rights for people who can get pregnant). I think Lil Nas X taking his experience in the religion, using it as a narrative device in his art, and causing a stir for engagement isn't as bad as it's made to seem. He doesn't go after the believers; he goes after the stories being taught that are intended to cause harm and shame.
Beautifully said I 100% agree
Only a minute in and Joe is killing me😭what the plants do to you?
He really said FUCK THEM PLANTS
2:36 berlin mocking joe “wE CAn’T Be BiRThdAy BrOThers”💀
5:23 “Yeah, *YOU WOULD* bring up Frozone first. *Sub-Zero👉🏻( * points towards PG * ) **_Ahuhuh_** ”* Joe really hit PG with a “I know *YOU* not laughing” with that sub-zero stray🤣💀💀
Word up, Berlin, you and the bros and poiised truly helped a bro out zeen. I've been fighting Cancer for the past 2 1/2 yrs and watching your content helped me through a lot of hospital stays and chemo moments. I lost my leg and withdrew from people for a long time, but by the grace of God and watching your content helped me deal with my new situation and navigate myself back to some form of normalcy. I'm just an hr away from you bros now. My wife and I bought a house out chea. You and the bros are always welcome to come by for some good grindz..on me as a thank you.
sending you love for your fight! ❤
I’m considered spiritual and it needs to be understood that Christianity is heavily linked with trauma. More than any other religion, I think. I don’t know the rapper personally, but he may have gone through that, and this is his way to cope. I’m not saying Christians can’t be upset either but to pretend that Christianity is this completely clean slate and nothing ever goes wrong and they don’t deserve it. It is asinine.
@dinkleberg2871
I understand your point.
I’ll counteract with this, is he burning down churches? Physically harming a Christian? Or is he saying things to get them riled up.
Christians have been doing that to others for decades.
@dinkleberg2871religion is literally the root of so many issues including war and poor legislation.. religion deserves all the slack it gets.
@@_Mimi_711 I get what you mean but I don't think we should be Bashing the contents of a religion based on our perception of the evil people who manipulate and abuse those contents. I'm not gonna start mocking Islam just because I see someone do something bad in the name of Islam, people do many bad things in the name of Concepts and teachings we believe in
But he’s essentially using the negative experiences and bad people he encountered through Christianity to mock all of its followers, including its positive and good people. When you mock entire demographics you’re bound to insult people who have nothing to do with your trauma. This is the same mindset as a white person who was traumatized by a black person and using that as an excuse to be racist to the rest of the demographic. There will never be a good excuse to try to mock entire groups of people. No matter what your trauma is. People need to learn to truly deal and heal their trauma without making other people have to feel that pain with them.
And i say this as a man who was raised in a Muslim household. Mocking people’s religions because of your individual experience with individuals of that religion isn’t some gotcha moment. It’s pure disrespect.
Berlin, Mark, Joe, please bros we need an episode with each of y’all friendship origins. How long have you and Joe known each other, some childhood stories. Pg’s first editor days, living together in the EGHQ. How close you three actually are. The SomeBros founders lol.
Joe been the funniest dude of all of 'em and this just keeps solidifying it. I love how PG is always just laughing in the background when Berlin and Joe go at it lol.
W podcast.
Perfect timing for this new podcast. Let me get my food to watch
You gon choke from laughing too hard; almost did twice lmaoo😭
@@ashlisarang5381 I devoured everything within 2 minutes of the podcast😂
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Literally me rn lol
9:12 Joe’s impression of a father is HILARIOUS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Listening to Joe and Berlin argue has to be my favorite pass time. PG over there dying 😂😂
Kai was actually on some homophobic shit though in his response. He literally had to stop himself from saying the f slur and going too far. And its like, so many other rappers have done this concept with comparing themselves to Jesus or God and didn't/still don't receive anywhere near as much pushback. Jay Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne, Nas, Tupac and more. All have done it and no one cared. So when someone who is gay does the same thing and it becomes an issue it very much does come off has homophopia, which is very rampant in the christian community historically. Its corny what he's doing for attention but at the same time the lack of consistency and ppl using this as an opportunity to spread hate toward LGBT folk is very apparent. Not everyone, but a lot are doing that.
I was going to make a comment just like this, but as an agnostic person and someone that prays to the West African deities of my ancestors, I find it interesting sitting back and seeing Christians care more about the critique of Christianity than the rampant mispractice of it. People are making jokes about Epstein and the violent crimes against children on his island but we're upset about Lil Nas X putting on a Party City costume of Jesus? It feels off to me on the outside looking in but idk
this^^
@@davichigbue1835 i agree with your comment as a person with Christian faith
So many Christians are hypocrites which is why so many people don’t take them seriously or respect them. Obviously not all Christians are like this but enough are to give the religion a bad representation. They spread so much hate but expect respect from everyone it’s laughable
I agree with the last sentence but some gay people in the gay community take the phrase “I don’t like the video “ the same as “ I don’t like gay people”. Sometimes nobody is saying anything about disliking gay people, they just don’t like the subject matter in the video. and somehow in society now, if you don’t like something a gay person is doing, then it’s automatically makes us homophobic…
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bro what
yuck 😂
mf really put the fire emojis after THAT
Joe is the mvp of this pod rn bro 😭😭
This podcast is beyond anything I’ve ever seen. The chemistry all of you have as hosts. Each member brings something different but needed to the table. I needed this content.
I’m falling in love with this pod way faster than I thought I would, like no other pod has made me feels this happy
To correct 38:25, Allah refers to the one and only God in Islam who is considered above all. The definition of “arm arm leg. . .” is from an African American group from New York who believed that black people are the original Gods of Earth. Muslims take Allah very seriously because associating Him with a human or others is considered a grave sin. Regardless, loved listening to yall talk 💙 Thanks for bringing back the podcast brus
glad you said i was gon comment sum too
Really appreicate the comment, I don’t comment on videos but I felt like we should correct the message so it doesn’t get mixed up!
just commented something like this too to clear it up i’m glad someone else wanted to correct that
Hmm.. you won't like this..but you should do some reseach on how he's literally b @ @ l.. (look it up before yall come at me..seriously go do it rn - unless you're too scared?✌)
Was literally going to comment inshaallah he finds true islam
I’m usually not one to comment but, I kind of wanted to expand on the lil nas x situation. Though I do see how the j Christ video could be seen as disrespectful. I think the purpose of the video was to get views. It did exactly what it intended to do which was to get people to watch it and talk about it. Lil Nas knew exactly what would happen and now the video has millions of views. Because for him there’s no such thing as bad publicity. Also, Berlin said something that was interesting to me which was “why do people feel the need to speak negatively on Christianity. I feel like it stems from a lot of people having religious trauma associated with that religion and because of the history of violence and discrimination that was done in the name of the religion. No hate to Christian’s though just wanted to provide a prospective.
I was just about to say this exactly! I think people forget that Lil Nas X is also a big internet troll as well and uses his videos and tweets to push back against all the ridicule he’s gotten from the jump. Same as how Doja Cat is also a huge online troll as well. People have a right to feel how they feel though, but I do feel like it’s so focused on the reaction of people and not the cause of him doing it in the first place. If that makes sense
Yep. Christianity is one of the main things to get made fun of because of how crazy some of the people who follow it are. Lil nas knows that a good chunk of the views he gets is from angry Christians and at the end of the day it’s lining his bank account.
Christianity is so goofy lol. The followers so cringy
@@antireese wtf are you on about
@@antireesehow do you see this and then even manifest that type of hateful energy on another human being,opinions or not
I know the topics are old, but still. Maybe this can offer some perspective on the Lil Nas conversation.
The reason some people gravitate towards using jesus and christianity as symbolism in their music, is because more often than not, it's the community that shunned them in their musical life, or their personal life at some point. Gays for the longest time have avoided being themselves because of what comes from that... In black households... In religious households. In the church. In the community as a whole. But since the pain it causes them doesn't typically affect others, it looks like nothing is wrong. It might seem like they're acting out against christianity or any religion for no reason, but they aren't. There's a reason for everything if you dig deep enough. We might not all like it, but it's there.
Anyways, I love the pod. And I appreciate the bros getting into their deep bags for these 🙏 Episode 3 couldn't come sooner 😭
This is it. No disrespect to any of the other sombros....but these three together is where it's at. I swear I could watch PG laughing all day! Joe is hilarious and big eezy is the man❤️ can't wait to hear more.
respectfully, i think its a closed minded to question why a religion like christianity gets critiqued/ridiculed. of course everyone is entitled to walk whichever paths they choose but to be naive of the good AND bad that comes with it can cause ignorance. just as much as christianity has helped, it has also hurt a lot more, thus why its easy for it to be the butt of jokes for some. i think acknowledging that can help with just letting stuff like that slide because other religions get made fun of all the time; that isnt okay but it is also inevitable.
100% agree I think the reason why for example people got so mad at kai cenat was he does promote rappers who rap abt violence and killings and constantly makes fun of the LGBTQ people are calling him a hypocrite and this is where he draws the line… what lil nas did was wrong nobody is arguing against that but as a christian myself I know we don’t always do the right things and some people might say we do more harm then good.. so I agree it’s inevitable to be made fun of as some chirstians do to other people whether you think it’s right or wrong is up to you
@@parannouls exactly that! u know on paper someone like kai cenat is someone i would have liked to support. but with the things he does and the people he has had in his camp, these arent actions of someone who is so pure and holy. ill never forget about the riot he caused just out of pure irresponsibility with his platform. 14 yr olds got their head smashed into car windows by police all cause he couldnt just have an organized event for his fans. everything he does just reeks of no self awareness and its sad.
I agree
"My low for the week was I went blind bro" - Joe Iacovetti
It literally makes no sense how CRISPY he be with the velvet durags.
Between joe and Berlin’s banter and Pg laughing at everything😂😂😂 bro
Just got some bunyon about to get some food and relaaaax. Hope everyone had a good day today 🎉
57:30 man i feel like PG is always the underrated one but he’s fr my favorite and i love how much he’s grown on stream… really sad he had to read those comments
Hey Guys, just wanted to clarify PG statement at 38:16. Allah DOESN'T mean Arm,leg,leg,arm,head in any literal, metephorical, or theoretical sense. Allah just means one god. I think I understand the intention behind (Self-Impowerment I assume) but don't overthink it. I hear some stuff about Islam from the spiritual community (or whatever community you wanna call it) and some of the stuff can get lost in translation. I do like how PG and other people around the world are realizing the spiritual aspect about Islam. Keep the good work up yall
Thanks for speaking on this. I left a comment as well hoping to clear up the misinformation. We should definitely try our best to have excellent character but Allah is one and has no partners in dominion.
I was like what do you mean allah is us
No, what PG said is Kufr (Disbelief). Applying human body parts to Allah and saying he is our "inner God" is blasphemy. Also, saying that Jesus came down as God is also Kufr. He was just saying Nation of Islam's BS beliefs which are not based in Islam at all
@hyua6841 your 100% right. Did the way I word my paragraph make it sound like I was agreeing with him? Cuz i wasn't tryna agree lol
he's a little confused but he's got the spirit, like literally in his belief currently, it's wrong yes, but he seems like he really is interested in the religion if he has time to read anything correlated to it, maybe if he studies it properly one day
This definitely gonna be the #1 podcast of 2024😂!
Not one to comment, but i just wanna say at 38:21 when pg says Allah means Arm leg leg arm head, that is incorrect, Allah is not an english word, its Arabic for God. Loved the podcast this new form of content is very enjoyable
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It was rlly rough to watch him butcher that lmaoo but i understand that some people are just not educated on those topics
@tammypickles228 Yeah, it was unsettling to hear him say it with so much certainty that Berlin and Joe believed it immediately. I hope they saw my comment.
@@mohamedmaish7169same. I think it's concerning how misinformation can be accepted so easily, literally 0 questions before they both agreed with PGs completely wrong take
I mean its not real so I guess in the end it doesn't matter.
love how the comments were giving the pod perspective on the lil nas segment. as someone who has always questioned christianity, though i feel no need to disrespect the religion, people who dont like christians, are indeed VALID. the historical and even current use of this religion and how the most bigoted, radical people will do things in the name of that religion (unfortunately), is why people are comfortable disrespecting it.
even kai, almost said the f slur in his rant, which is why people thought his commentary was in bad faith. mind you, there were plenty of ppl jumping to be homophobic, just because they didnt like the video. which shows that if they were so quick to compromise morality due to being offended, they were always that way. again, giving anti-christians more fuel for their dislike.
I love this video. I always love watching yall talk and share opinions. The convo on lil nas x got me thinking, too (and I love how they all kept that discussion so respectful while also cracking their normal jokes). My question as far as lil nas x was why is everyone so mad at him specifically? Not everybody in the Speakeezy per se, but a lot of people in general? Didn't Kendrick Lamar insinuate himself as a Jesus-like figure, too, in his music video, N95? I feel like Kanye received more pushback for his anti-semitic comments (which were not cool, btw) versus him referring to himself as "Yeezus," which we all pretty much brushed off as silly ole Kanye being Kanye. I def don't support disrespecting Christians by targeting them specifically, but I also know a lot of Christians are not as kind as Berlin, either. A lot of us have traumatic memories of the Christian or Catholic church. I also believe in freedom of speech, and I know Lil Nas X has been targeted specifically by some Christians just for being black and gay in the public eye, before any of his imagery got super religious in context. Why can some Christians critique other groups and it's seen as normal, like protesting outside of a pride parade for example, but when other groups critique Christianity, it is seen as blasphemous and a sign of declining times? Why can some white artists like, say, Billie Eilish or Ashnikko, or even ACDC with something as simple and seemingly harmless as "Highway to Hell" (all of which are incredible artists, btw), play around with demonic or satanic-like imagery or methaphors, a lot of which could def be interpreted as blasphemous as well, but Lil Nas X is able to spark this much commotion? Also, we don't know his experience with Christianity either, and because a lot of people who have left the church (or been shunned by one, or raised by religious parents, whatever the case may be) have a lot of complex feelings toward the religion, they should be allowed to unpack that through art and express themselves like anyone else. It feels like pushing artistic boundaries always gets the line drawn at Christianity but not at any other religion, and it does really go to show the favoritism toward Christianity in western society. And I can't lie- every time Lil Nas makes a joke out of it, his views go up because people are so passionate about Christianity, when it is in fact another religion like any other religion. I could see why he'd keep using the formula if it's the sure-fire route that works: "I mention Christianity=my views and engagement go up." I think sometimes we should take a step back and reflect on why this makes US so angry, especially when there are plentiful examples of "blasphemous" things that we turn a cheek to everyday, some of which we do ourselves? Lil nas x being so far in the public eye, I feel, just makes him the perfect target and the perfect person to make an example of, which I don't think is fair. Butttt, I do believe EVERYone should be allowed to stand in their beliefs and express themselves, so long as no one is physically or verbally abused in the process. Lil Nas X aint hurting nobody, so just turn off the video or don't watch if you don't like. Same for peaceful Christians, lol--they minding they business so let them go 'head about they business. Love is the bottom line. Everything else just makes it seem overly complicated.
beautifully written !!
regarding the lil nas x / christianity topic, what we choose to focus on shows a lot about what we truly have a problem with. using blasphemous imagery and language in art is nothing new in the slightest.
theres a reason why it feels like a punch in the face to see lil nas x do it yet can still tolerate other completely secular music that promotes extreme violence, also has blasphemous imagery, and includes the uplifting of a multitude of other sins. is lil nas x’s music video something that no one has ever done or seen before? no. the outrage is cause hes gay doing it.
him being gay to people is like the extra disrespect, which is exactly the point of the pushback on the criticism and the criticisms of christianity itself. people get to mask their hatred for certain marginalized communities by hiding behind their religion.
and a lot of people unfortunately had to grow up with the same hypocrisies at the hands of christians. kai praying occasionally and giving thanks to god does not erase him uplifting and providing a space for sin. nicki minaj did a whole christian thing too and she was still on his stream.
consistency matters. and what you choose to focus on matters.
exactly
PREACH
greatly said
"cake" is crazy lmao 3:15
From what i’ve been taking from the speakeezy and berlin’s channel is that he is ready for another shift in his life. He went from exposed videos to more focused gaming and now it may be time for a new transformation/era. Thats growth. With every beginning there must be an end. The real supporters will be there regardless of what he chooses to do in his life. Wish him & all the gang the best!
Best podcast out by far, hearing conversations held by creatives are top tier…s/o Somebros🤘🏾🔥
always loved these three together i’m so glad they’ve restarted the pod
it's kinda crazy how every white rockstar from the last 6 decades has used the same imagery & it's labeled as "provocative" but now it's blasphemous, yes it's cheesy in the sense that it's nothing new & interesting art-wise but he's also getting the exact engagement he wanted from the outrage, it's an obvious double-standard & ppl have nothing genuine to rally against
the energy yall have for lil nas is the same energy i need yall to have for kanye west, playboi carti and a lot of other rappers who disrespect christianity
Just say you are a fan and move on
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife couldn’t even name a song tbh lmaooo but sometimes it feels like he gets it worse than other artist who do the same stuff
In regards to the understanding and practice of Christianity, I feel that it becomes an issue to me when people choose to be devout Christians when it is selectively beneficial for them or to essentially berate. For example: Kai being upset about what took place while simultaneously saying nothing about Palestine, which is the birth place of Jesus, is a bit flippant. Not to mention, he was drinking Starbucks on his stream, who are one of the funders of the genocide. Not to mention, Kanye West stated he was God and had entire aesthetic of being Jesus. Kendrick Lamar has a shoot with him with a thorn crown on and no one batted an eye. I will always say people will use Christianity in the way that they are as people.
Let’s not forget when uzi told his fans they were going to hell for listening to his music while him and carti were wearing new upside down crosses every week 😂but i guess that didn’t count
Boom that part
@@millymae9907they laughed about it and went back to upholding him
Ik in there eyes they just having “a talk with the guys” but man If only they knew how much these podcasts do me. These videos truly feel like a blessing and always give me so much mental clarity, thank y’all for just being yourselves🙏🏽
reading these comments gives me more faith in the internets ability to have complex and critical thinking luv yall down♥ good pod btw
The speakeezy is the only podcast I’d ever sat and watched in its entirety. I really admire you guys. Been watching for so long and I never thought we’d see this. Proud and happy for y’all
I know Joe did not just ask if an 80s movie was in black and white. Damn I feel old watching y'all! Love y'all but damn! Lol! 😅
Lmao joe tripping 😂
@lovethegodme I'm only 39 but I feel so disrespected. LOL! 💀
PG please clarify that your definition of "Allah" is the 5 percenter definition Allah is "Al- Ilah (The God), as stated in his book
"He is Allah, the only One
Allah, the One taking care of everything
He begets, nor is he begotten
And He never had any equal at all"
Surah Ikhlas 112
yeah that "five percenter" BS can't be labeled as Islam. Those are Kafir
I love the back and forth between Berleezy and Joe 😂😂😂. This podcast is both hilarious and inspiring. As a beginning gaming content creator, I enjoy listening to OGs talk about their experiences and give inspiration!
Just to clear what PG said here at 38:19 Allah doesn't mean arm leg leg arm head like he said. It simply means God in arabic. Nor does Allah mean "our inner god". Nor do we believe that we are god or a part of him (nor do we think that he looks like a human) cuz that will be contradicting to the teachings of Islam. Allah is God and there's nothing that looks like him in the heavens and the earth (exalted he is in his might) and we worship him alone. Also, we do believe that Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet and a messenger of Allah (we do not tolerate any disrespect towards jesus) just like we don't tolerate any disrespect towards Mohammed peace be upon him and all of the other prophets. Hope i cleared out the misunderstanding here.
I don’t comment much tbh, but I figured it’s one of those times to chime in since the crew was conversing with the subject of Lil Nas X and Christianity. Prepare for the biggest yap:
To give background, I grew up Christian and went to a private catholic school when I was younger. I’m more so agnostic now but I do respect your beliefs as long as it doesn’t harm others. With that being said, I always had a viewpoint + the experience that religion is meant to help build the foundation of what it is to be a good person how to treat others with respect (as well as handle disrespect). As I grew older into my adult years, I learned more about the history of how Christianity was used as a weapon to oppress and kill other people. Nowadays, obviously it doesn’t compare to back then since there was wars and crusades over it, but that hate still remains using the guise of religion to hurt others. Racism, homophobia, sometimes used to hurt women. Obviously we all should disavow ANYTHING that brings harm to another person.
When Berlin asks why Christianity is seen so negatively, it’s not the religion itself but the people that claim they are true Christians but do these horrid things to others for just being different than them with their beliefs. I think we can agree it’s horrible. It is also horrible to hate Christians for the actions of other “Christians” who do wrong.
I can understand the crew’s sentiment and overall disdain with what Lil Nas X did, and imo it is just a publicity stunt to get people to talk about him. However it’s also naive to think that Lil Nas X doesn’t have a connection to Christianity what so ever. He didn’t just “decide” to go after Christianity for no reason. It is because in his experience, the church would absolutely ridicule and hate him for being gay. I’m not saying it makes what he did right, but there is always an explanation to these actions a to why it happens.
Side Note: Lil Nas X ain’t even the first rapper to make himself Jesus or God. You have DMX, Kanye, and even Travis Scott do the same thing, but no one talks about it really or with an outrage even on a similar level. If the outrage is genuine, then it needs to be addressed with EVERYBODY, not just Lil Nas X.
On that note, Jesus loved everybody no matter who you were. He sat with sinners and broke bread with prostitutes rather than sit with those who already share his beliefs. He conversed with them and made them feel seen even if they didn’t like them. You can’t respond to hate with hate, it goes both ways.
Overall, my perspective is that there is a lot of internalized hatred with a chunk of Christians that use their religion to hurt or justify violence against others and it has shown in history to be the case. I just want the boys to approach what they talk about with nuance and ask each other “why.”
That’s pretty much it, though. I love this podcast and can’t wait for the next episode. Eughh.
the forces wit the ankle socks is CRAZY Berlin
i jus got to the part where u called it out you even knew u was dead wrong lol
Kinda wild I've always assumed these dudes were well read on Christian theology but no one clinched or corrected Joe when he said Lucifer was the angel of "music" like no bro, Lucifer was the angel of enlightenment.
And Lucifer is the morning star
so yall like 21 savage rapping about killing people, and other artist like that, but nas x talking about christianity is where yall draw the line? I understand that its disrepectful if you are christian but when yall choose to call things out is weird sometimes to me at least
Right????
i could see why he did it. he’s always getting told by people that he’s going to go to hell and other things by people who believe being gay is a sin. i don’t think he hates all christians or jesus himself and yes it’s wrong to mock jesus, but there’s many people that are just angry with some christians that they do crazy things and he most likely did it for a reaction.
As a caribbean person, JACK SPARROW is wild joe 😂😂
The reason why Christianity is so easily ridiculed is because it’s a religion that is not immediately tied to a group of people or culture because it’s so wide spread. Furthermore so many people ridicule Christianity not because of the religion itself yet so many people suffer at the hands of “Christians” people who say they embrace their religion and may pray and go to church but once they come across someone different from them (gay, trans, black, etc) they turn to complete hatred. At some point in my life I was against religion because of those people but maturing is realizing that’s not every Christian and you shouldn’t turn away god for someone who isn’t god. Aside from that, people are defending Nas so hard because many people will take the video and use the excuse “it’s disrespectful” just to be racist and homophobic toward him so the conversation becomes so muddled. Is he being disrespectful? Maybe, but then why are we talking about him being gay? “Because it’s against god” whatever and that’s why he criticizes Christians and god, because he’s suffered due to the people who believe in faith but then why mock (if he is or not that’s for you to decide) god just to make his followers who don’t truly listen to him mad? It’s just a back and forth you can never win because it’s founded in personal beliefs that you hold to how you perceive god which is something no matter what you can’t change for someone. Two Christian will respect god in their own way and someone who might not believe in him will take a whole other approach. It’s just pointless. If you don’t like don’t watch it’s meaningless tbh
I totally understand why a lot of Christians weren't happy with the Lil Nas X 'J Christ' song. There definitely was imaginary in there which i would label as unsavory and blasphemous to the Christian belief. However, I personally feel like the backlash he got was disproportionate to his peers who have done similar if not more revolting things using Christ's name.
I am in no way, shape, or form defending his behavior or saying that "others have done it so why cant he?" but more as a comparison to his backlash and others who have done similar things.
Artist like Playboy Carti with his upside down crosses, Travis Scott dressing up as the Lord and Satan, Nicki Minaj sexualizing Catholicism, Lady Gaga sexualizing Nuns and Judas, Kendrick Lamar's glorified bedazzled crown of thorns, and Ariana Grande using God as a sex symbol (the list can go on forever) have done very unsavory things using the Lord's name and the Bible but somehow the backlash they experienced can't even be remotely compared to what Lil Nas X was facing.
Many people were attacking Christians calling out his behavior because a lot (NOT ALL) were being very hypocritical when it came to evaluating the video. You used Kai Cenat as an example (which I think personally wasn't the best choice) of a man defending his religion, however Kai is an avid fan of many artist you can say are sacrilegious and in his video of criticizing Lil Nas X he almost slipped up and said the F slur on stream. In which many were able to see his biases masquerading around as legitimate criticisms.
There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with defending your religion however to pick and choose who and who isn't blasphemous when doing the same act is not really defending but rather discriminating. Lil Nas X definitely deserves backlash for his video that's undeniable, however the Christian community still struggles with equally handing out punishments/shame when it comes to committing such sacrilegious acts.
The reason you don't really see people playing with other religions like this is because in most religions regardless of your gender, race, sexuality, ethnicity etc a Sin is a Sin and you will be punished for it period. Although many Christians claim that they believe this idea as well, we more often than not come across hypocrites in the community that tarnish the faiths name which threatens the seriousness of it's followers.
There's a MUCH bigger issue to be addressed when it comes to this topic. How much is too much, and where do we draw the line when it comes to religion especially when it comes to art, music, film etc? That's just my thoughts on it tho many could disagree
Asking if an 80s movie was in black and white I-
Whats so crazy is no one has EVER had a problem with rap blasphemy until Lil nas x... like yall listen to kanye and jayz but when a gay rapper does it yall suddenly don't get the message... ik this video is dated but ik for a fact they have this mindset is so fucked, yall are so focused on what he's doing instead of what he's saying and what's he's trying to put into the world. he's "killed" the devil, he's "beat" the devil in basketball ntm is christianity not about being apart of jesus, is the message of christianity not to be whole?
There's so many great points in the comments being made about the Lil Nas X music video/Christianity discourse that I dont wanna run the points into the ground.
On the topic though, I've noticed that the way we have passionate disagreements with others on the internet has changed dramatically. Instead of engaging in conversations in a healthy manner and separating ourselves from our beliefs to talk about points, a lot of the time, people tend to use those disagreements to make personal attacks at others to try and win the argument (these are called Ad hominem fallacies, logic girlies rise up).
When it comes to criticizing a religious belief, this gets really tricky because its easy to feel like our religious/spiritual beliefs are a part of us and integral to our identity. So when someone criticizes a spiritual or religious belief that has saved us, given us meaning in this life or provided solace, it can feel like WE are being called into question which makes people defensive. I think people are valid to criticize something they've had negative experiences in and I think its valid that people who have positive experiences highlight the positive aspects and challange the critique.
What's missing in most spaces but what I see in these comments, is people sharing wisdom and perspective with respect.
I don't know what PG was talking about when he mentioned Allah as "arm, leg, leg, head". This is NOT part of Islam. God is not described as having human characteristics. Also believing that Jesus came down as God is also completely against Islamic belief too. Saying that Allah is "our inner God" is not mentioned in Islam at all. Islam is clear that there is only one God and that Jesus was a prophet of God.
Plz sight ur evidence, from an article or something written by someone else? At some point u gotta realize people do anything for the “prophet” sorry I meant to say profit. If u ain’t witness any of this yourself, plz keep your beliefs to yourself otherwise u are just promoting propaganda
@@WhiteTee264 I am not preaching and saying that "Islam is the truth". What I am doing is correcting PG. What PG is describing does not fall under the core beliefs of Islam. If you believe its true or not doesnt really matter lmao
PG lineup clean asl 😮💨shii fye
I don’t think it’s Christianity that ppl really come for but it’s the ppl who worship that religion that can sometimes be the issue when choosing when something is sinful and make other sin seem greater then others when that’s not the case. So it just be the pick and choose that make ppl question certain things or don’t give as much respect for the religion. It not the religion itself but ppl in it that don’t represent it in the respect that it should be and or don’t live by it fully but want to make statements on certain topics when it come to it. If that make sense.
When is “Pause” gonna be over-played? I feel like that is so limiting within discourse.
Berlin’s lil nas x bit went on for way too long 😂
right it wasnt that serious
Nah youre just mad and lost lol it was like 10 minutes shutup. Go ahead and follow lil nas x and leave this page please follow the rest of the Lost
Another banger 🔥PG needs to stop talking about Allah though, high as hell talking about "Allah stands for arm, leg, leg, arm, head." That was the most stoner shit I've ever heard and they really believed him.
i love the show but can we give the masculinity police an episode off every now and again
38:28 with all due respect to PG that is not the view of God in Islam. We believe the creator is uniquely 1 and is nothing like us and we are nothing like him (Quran chapter 112). And Jesus Peace Be Upon Him we believe is one of the mightiest messengers but is not at all God Almighty. Just want to clarify this ✌🏽but I’m appreciative that religion is a talking point and we as Muslims are just as offended to see these depictions of Jesus PBUH and even the ark of Noah Peace Be Upon Him and other imagery so we’re with you in that sense ✊🏽.
Christianity has a bad history whether it’s from people misinterpreting parts of the book and using that to fuel their hate or the unspeakable things that were done in framed as acts of God, and it’s majorly due to the fact of how big it is so many people believe in it, and there’s so much attention on it with the media, especially in America, because we were not founded on religion watch, everybody interpreted it as being founded it on religion. Even speaking on when it was brought here U.S and was forced on people it stems so much discourse and hate bc people use it as a justification for their harmful and hurtful ways when the Bible and many religions teach about love, faith and, discipline but it was so construed and people lose sight of the real message(by the way this is no hate to any religion this is just a perspective I wanted to give to the convo)
Ngl everyone needs to remember that not everyone who is on the list is a pedo. There are victims on the list along with people who had no clue what was going on there.
Facts, and many on the list just used the plane for other travel. I feel like the list is more on the blue pill side. It seems like a way to "control" older influential celebrities, and weaponize our distaste of them. Which, yk, fair, alot of them deserve it, but it's interesting how they pick and chose when they wanted to expose things from Epstein. Everything seems like a cover
yo no disrespect to none of yall but pg got that whole allah thing wrong it dont stand for what he said it does its just god(were not god btw) in arabic and im muslim myself so i feel like it was just right for me to correct the misinformation that pg said. (love yall vids eugh keep it up) im just trying to look out for pg so he don't get hate for something he didn't know
Reposting @blessedbutterfly-ff2 comment here because the whole bit about lil nas x rubbed me the wrong way for this reason exactly. Its crazy how ya'll will cherry pick criticizing rappers or people that don't respect your religion and your god but yet have nothing to say about all the rappers that promote a lifestyle of violence, death, destruction and greed. Just say you didn't like the fact lil nas x was 'disrespecting' Christianity WHILE being gay and move on:
regarding the lil nas x / christianity topic, what we choose to focus on shows a lot about what we truly have a problem with. using blasphemous imagery and language in art is nothing new in the slightest.
theres a reason why it feels like a punch in the face to see lil nas x do it yet can still tolerate other completely secular music that promotes extreme violence, also has blasphemous imagery, and includes the uplifting of a multitude of other sins. is lil nas x’s music video something that no one has ever done or seen before? no. the outrage is cause hes gay doing it.
him being gay to people is like the extra disrespect, which is exactly the point of the pushback on the criticism and the criticisms of christianity itself. people get to mask their hatred for certain marginalized communities by hiding behind their religion.
and a lot of people unfortunately had to grow up with the same hypocrisies at the hands of christians. kai praying occasionally and giving thanks to god does not erase him uplifting and providing a space for sin. nicki minaj did a whole christian thing too and she was still on his stream.
consistency matters. and what you choose to focus on matters.
im ngl i dont think Lil Nas X's video is disrespectful... he identifies as Christian, and is far from the only artist to use religious imagery in their art. If you're pissed about Lil Nas you gotta come for anyone else using this imagery too: Kendrick, Tupac, Madonna, Kanye etc. What's the difference here?
and responding to "out of everything in the world why choose to make a joke of this one thing" which is a valid question, he has the right to make music about his personal experience growing up Christian.
I can 100% understand why its offensive and i think people are allowed to find it disrespectful. But i stand behind that if someone finds it disrespectful then they should absolutely hold that same energy for Kendrick,
Tupac and everyone else you named. Like people pick and choose when to be offended and by who.
@@realmnthrwknives that's fair, in that case I guess i do understand. It's ok to find it offensive, but I'd rly want to question why. Is it really the religious imagery and portraying oneself as Jesus? Or is it the portrayal of femininity and flamboyance on a man that's the tipping point.. bc I never see ppl saying anything about movies or plays where actors play Jesus or have devil imagery like in cartoons.
All facts😌😌
@@mustanggox bruh just stop, he’s openly mocking the religion.
My counterpoint to their question would be out of everything that gets joked about why is religion off the table. People make fun of race, gender, sexuality, weight, height, nationality and other things of that nature and that’s fine, so why is religion off the table?
PG is saying Kufr, I'm sorry. His take and view on what Allah is and what Allah means is WRONG. I think he's following a deviant version of Islam and not actual Islam. Astaghfirullah.
i love all these guys but i dissagree on all the lil nas x stuff i have a similar opinion with dontai where its art and everyone takes it to serious he was the devil people thought he was a satan worshipper he became jesus and hes still evil
(sorry to rant) what about kendrick lamar he had a jesus headpiece made and correct me if im wrong nobody gave him shit for that so that tells me kendrick can be jesus but not lil nas x just cause
@@HamAndCheees yeah but kendrick also was not half naked when he did that. Kendrick's reasoning was that he didn't want to be seen as "hip hop's saviour" so that was how he showed that. Lil nas x on the other hand is only doing this for views and attention
@@hyua6841 lil nas wasnt half naked either he was just dressed girly not to defend lil nas cause his music sucks to me i just find it funny
Christianity is a belief, free game to be made fun of just like people that believe the earth is flat. You can believe what you want but you shouldn’t be a protected species just because you believe something.
Dawg Allah is not arm leg leg arm head LMAO🤣🤣
Allah isn’t an acronym, Allah is the one true god
Hearing and seeing how all of them grew to create this platform gave me goosebumps. Once again beautifully said Berlin, Im glad you can still inspire me after all these years!
I think somehow in society now, it feels like if you don’t like/ agree something a gay person is doing, then it automatically makes you homophobic…? I don’t understand that. Gay or not, the persons actions are is still disrespectful 😭. Anywayssss loved the podcast guys keep up the hard work so proud of y’all ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥
I started my channel almost two years ago and I started out thinking since I was a loser in school why would anyone like me online? I am so happy that I kept with it because I realized that I really just messed myself up because today I am in the 2k subs and people tell how funny I am and how much they like me. Now I don't have any TH-cam friends to work with, but I know one day I'll get there. until then, you guys keep letting us know it's not impossible. Peace and Love
i feel like lil nas was just not a good example on this discussion. Lil nas coming out made plenty of christians come after him with slurs. He was experiencing extreme homophobia, by christians. Which caused him to retaliate by mocking the religion. Disrespecting any kind of religion is very distasteful, and of course im not defending anyone. But, to use lil nas WHO IS A BLACK GAY MAN who is apart of an extremely oppressive group. Was extremely close minded whereas there were other artists who openly disrespected christians for actually no apparent good reason. Such as doja cat who added devil like imagery in music videos. But, of course she wasn’t mentioned because she’s not apart of any oppressed groups. She a straight woman, even though she was ridiculed to some degree. But, the amount of ridicule that lil nas is receiving who is apart of a group oppressed by christians. Is extremely unfair, thats a kind of conversation that has to be approached with a open mind not a closed minded one.
man these podcasts are emotional lowkey! working a job that feels dead end to me, feeling like i’m talking to myself with my content, etc. these motivational conversations speak life into me the way i didn’t have when i was younger it’s powerful. good job guys with this podcast, seriously
Totally agree with you guys on the Lil Nas X stuff. He’s out of line
Same
I was visiting texas a couple years ago during valentines day and they had a freeze. As a New Yorker I felt the same way Pg did like "why are they trippin'". It just comes down to the fact that texas is not prepared for cold weather like states that are used to the cold. It felt very apocalyptic while I was in texas during the freeze like hella people died. What tripped me out though is that it was colder in texas than it was in new york & new york was experiencing a snow storm at the time!
berlin, people saying u saved their lives with ur gaming videos had nothing to do w the games. it was all YOU! it’s ur vibe, ur humor, just ur whole personality. i’ve been watching u since i was like 11 and i’m about to be 19 this year. i don’t even like story based games all like that and still i watch those videos because it’s you fr
Please promote this channel more. I loved watching y’all game but as I grow older I desire to hear more about opinions within y’all lives too. This is a great side of all 3 of y’all to see. Undivided attention to bounce ideas around and expanding reality for your viewers. Excellent, EUGH ✊🏾
honestly love the candid conversation being on light topics and topics that require the discussion to dig deeper, love the concept of the SPEAKEEZY, glad its back.... and let me say you have created a great team and community of people who want to see each other do great things, being in a different part of the gaming community myself, i learned that there are subsections in the gaming world with people who will take your ideas and capitalize on it , exactly like you guys were saying, and still try to use you at the same time and it absolutely SUCKS, however the same thing that you told your sis is what my core people tell me, to continue to be me and do what i want block out the noise. This episode was sooo good love the dynamic.
I’m glad Joe and pg got their vision back after 10mins and a hour , I still haven’t got my vision back in my left eye from gaming too close and it’s been a couple of months 🙄
This feels like a behind the scenes type thing, like after hours or something. I love these precious chats.
i love these men sm. they make me smile no matter what im going through.
I love this podcast, it’s cool that this group is growing up alongside all of us. As I get older I wanna hear the thoughts and stances of the people I look up to in a way.
Texas cold is no joke solely because of the unstable power grid, one one hand I get people panicking but people snatching EVERYTHING off the shelves was tew much imo.