she could have been a fantastic all-arounder on the international stage. it’s so unfortunate that she was surrounded by some of the best-allrounders in aly, jordan, gabby, and kyla AND the best vaulter in the world at the time. the cards were truly stacked against her…
@@colesmith7509 - you're forgetting that injuries kept Price out of a decent amount of 2013. She withdrew from the American Cup, didn't compete at Classics and didn't do AA at Nationals, but was still invited to the selection camp and was named the alternate. In 2014 she won the AA at Pac Rims and then decided to go the NCAA route so it's not completely fair to say she was just glossed over.
Part of it is likely due to a slight decrease in start value advantage over a DTY and at the same time judges have only gotten stricter about deductions But I also think that part of it may have to do with what seems to be an evolution of the typical gymnast's phyisque. More and more we're seeing WAG gymnasts who aren't as waifishly thin as in years past, and well... thinner bodies can twist faster. That being said, I'm hoping that it's a sign the sport is improving and gymnasts are physically and mentally healthier now with less pressure to starve themselves thin
@@honeyfromthebee I definitely agree on the difficulty part. I just wouldn't have expected it to drop to 0, especially considering the Amanar was only 0.5 more than a DTY in the 2013-16 code. Still, some people tried the Amanar. About the physique thing I have to disagree because the thinnest gymnasts usually struggle to get a good block. Those with the best Amanars have almost never been the extremely thin type. At this point, almost all of the underweight gymnasts struggle to do more than a Yurchenko full. I could still be wrong tho. And I would definitely prefer healthy and happy gymnasts over an extra half twist on vault lmao
@@colesmith7509 That's a good point! I think it comes down to a balancing act of physics. The most slight gymnasts are likely to also weigh less and therefore not be able to compress the springs as much or generate as powerful of a block off the table. A more well figured gymnast can better generate power there, but at the same time is going to have a wider twisting axis which slows down the rate at which they can twist
@@honeyfromthebee i think they look at the start values and think it's not worth it, but based on the actual results of team selections more gymnasts should be upgrading to the Amanar. Skinner made the team in 2019/2021 because of strong vault performances at trials that put a significant gap ahead of the other gymnasts, and Carey's vault advantage at the Olympics (15.2!! helped her qualify to the AA)
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Yes! I was only putting the first year a gymnast competed the vault in this video though (but Jordan did try it in 2015 but I didn't post it because it looked like she hurt herself on it)
@@MajorMajesticIce she has still been training it but I believe her coaches, the Landys, are just make sure she can safely compete it with our getting hurt. I saw a few training videos where Laurent was adamant about her fixing her block so she doesn’t land twisting. Which could be a bad acl injury.
I feel like the newer vaulting table allows gymnasts to cheat and enter onto the table already in a pre-rotated twist. With the old vaults you really had to be square coming onto the horse in order to make a good connection to get a good block ... just an observation. I would have loved to try and Amanar with the new tables.
It really needed a devaluation, 0.8 above DTY was excessive, you could crash the vault and score the same as a regular DTY (like Jiang Yuyuan did in 2008 AA), around 2011-2012 the pressure to have it was imense, basically every top team was pressuring their gymnasts to get and land it. By the other hand, 0.4 was too low and basically killed the vault, specially with the stricter judging. The ones with enough power went for the Cheng, and even the greatest vaulters will avoid it whenever possible due to the low reward.
Why did you you leave out McKayla Maroney perfect vault in 2012. Which i believe the judges got wrong which should've been a perfect 10. McKayla Maroney the best vault i have ever, EVER, SEEN. period.
I was showing the first vault from each gymnast. This is video is meant to focus on the historical aspect so it's the first Amanar each of these gymnasts competed with one exception being Chiles since I didn't want to show an injury
I will never get over how underrated Elizabeth price was for no reason
she could have been a fantastic all-arounder on the international stage. it’s so unfortunate that she was surrounded by some of the best-allrounders in aly, jordan, gabby, and kyla AND the best vaulter in the world at the time. the cards were truly stacked against her…
@@evannguyen9447but even in 2013 and 2014 she was glossed over
Sad but I honestly think that she didn’t have the “look” Marta liked
@@colesmith7509 - you're forgetting that injuries kept Price out of a decent amount of 2013. She withdrew from the American Cup, didn't compete at Classics and didn't do AA at Nationals, but was still invited to the selection camp and was named the alternate. In 2014 she won the AA at Pac Rims and then decided to go the NCAA route so it's not completely fair to say she was just glossed over.
2012 was loaded and she just slid under all the other stars for some reason, and then injuries and it just never seemed to be her time.
Crazy that about 87 people did it in 2010-2012 but not one person has introduced it since 2017
Part of it is likely due to a slight decrease in start value advantage over a DTY and at the same time judges have only gotten stricter about deductions
But I also think that part of it may have to do with what seems to be an evolution of the typical gymnast's phyisque. More and more we're seeing WAG gymnasts who aren't as waifishly thin as in years past, and well... thinner bodies can twist faster. That being said, I'm hoping that it's a sign the sport is improving and gymnasts are physically and mentally healthier now with less pressure to starve themselves thin
@@honeyfromthebee I definitely agree on the difficulty part. I just wouldn't have expected it to drop to 0, especially considering the Amanar was only 0.5 more than a DTY in the 2013-16 code. Still, some people tried the Amanar.
About the physique thing I have to disagree because the thinnest gymnasts usually struggle to get a good block. Those with the best Amanars have almost never been the extremely thin type. At this point, almost all of the underweight gymnasts struggle to do more than a Yurchenko full.
I could still be wrong tho. And I would definitely prefer healthy and happy gymnasts over an extra half twist on vault lmao
@@colesmith7509 That's a good point! I think it comes down to a balancing act of physics. The most slight gymnasts are likely to also weigh less and therefore not be able to compress the springs as much or generate as powerful of a block off the table. A more well figured gymnast can better generate power there, but at the same time is going to have a wider twisting axis which slows down the rate at which they can twist
@@honeyfromthebee i think they look at the start values and think it's not worth it, but based on the actual results of team selections more gymnasts should be upgrading to the Amanar. Skinner made the team in 2019/2021 because of strong vault performances at trials that put a significant gap ahead of the other gymnasts, and Carey's vault advantage at the Olympics (15.2!! helped her qualify to the AA)
@@honeyfromthebeenot every gymnast is hungry af. Some are just skinny period. You make every skinny girl feel like she is sick which is not true.
That's so sad that Jade Carey was the last Amanar
2009-15 it was worth so much and back then Marta and coaches really pushed them to have it. I’m sure others can do it, just not safely and consistent.
@@sean-xc3htIt’s not worth the risk with the reduced value.
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It's truly amazing how quickly Jordan blocks!!
Jordan Chiles also did it in 2018 at day 1 of US Nationals and did it well (9.2 execution).
I wonder why she didn’t keep it!
Yes! I was only putting the first year a gymnast competed the vault in this video though (but Jordan did try it in 2015 but I didn't post it because it looked like she hurt herself on it)
@@MajorMajesticIce she has still been training it but I believe her coaches, the Landys, are just make sure she can safely compete it with our getting hurt. I saw a few training videos where Laurent was adamant about her fixing her block so she doesn’t land twisting. Which could be a bad acl injury.
@@ericgymfan Well then you're off with Raisman. She attempted the amanar at the 2010 Classics (fell) and the 2011 Classics.
Can you do the best executed Amanars USA 🇺🇸
I feel like the newer vaulting table allows gymnasts to cheat and enter onto the table already in a pre-rotated twist. With the old vaults you really had to be square coming onto the horse in order to make a good connection to get a good block ... just an observation. I would have loved to try and Amanar with the new tables.
Lexi Priessman, Elizabeth Price, and Brenna Dowell are the most underrated American gymnasts I feel.
Brenna was always underscored relative to everyone else.
So it’s kind of stagnated in the past few years with devaluation and it being less worth it unless you can do it super well
It really needed a devaluation, 0.8 above DTY was excessive, you could crash the vault and score the same as a regular DTY (like Jiang Yuyuan did in 2008 AA), around 2011-2012 the pressure to have it was imense, basically every top team was pressuring their gymnasts to get and land it. By the other hand, 0.4 was too low and basically killed the vault, specially with the stricter judging. The ones with enough power went for the Cheng, and even the greatest vaulters will avoid it whenever possible due to the low reward.
why did alicia sacramone never try an amanar
The world may never know.
Can you please make a video of all the gymnasts who have done a tsuk double? Jade Carey
Jade’s best vault IMO.
Looks like the landing is really difficult to control.
They didn't even show Maroney's perfect one.
Was Shawn Johnson the first to do it?
She was the first American to do it but not the first gymnast
Why did you you leave out McKayla Maroney perfect vault in 2012. Which i believe the judges got wrong which should've been a perfect 10. McKayla Maroney the best vault i have ever, EVER, SEEN. period.
I was showing the first vault from each gymnast. This is video is meant to focus on the historical aspect so it's the first Amanar each of these gymnasts competed with one exception being Chiles since I didn't want to show an injury
Nice
Shawn Johnson's more like a 2.25 twist imo.
And now nobody is doing It anymore! What a loss! How boring! I prefer to watch endless wolfturns over endless DTYs.
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Mykayla is so bad ass. Just pure grit, man.
Shut up