Just purchased mine and i have to admit that for 544 euros (well, given the current prices and inflation) it really is the sweetspot between very nice quality of materials, decent sounds, capabilities and cost. Tried out the roland 07dmk and alesis nitro and the yamaha one felt more robust than either of them (roland is 200 euros + kick pedal more expensive). Was also worried about the rubber parts cause everyone praises mesh heads, but to me the mesh ones (at this price range) felt too bouncy. Pad size is really ok, yeah bigger could be better but i am really ok with the 8" ones. Rack is really steady, no issues whatsoever, and the height is perfect for an average sized person (i am 180cm tall with long legs and have no issues). Kit is really responsive with very nice trigger accuracy. I am only getting used to the HH pedal , doesnt really feel as a standard Hi Hat stand feels but that s to be expected. It also works for semi-closed and not only as open or closed. Hope i have been of help :)
The most impressive thing was Justin getting all of the little boxes to fit back into the big one, that almost never happens! Good luck getting all the components back in.
Loved your explanation of the various kits! The break down of info you gave is very telling, and helpful for choosing the right kit. Thank you for taking the time to explain each quirk and variation between the different manufacturers kits as well!
Dear Justin hello from Athens Greece! I bought this drum set used for about 300$ and I have to say that I’m really impressed how much a value for money this is. This is not my first electronic drum kit but it is definitely the most money worth it compare to the other ones I had. It has its cons like you mentioned in your review but compared to the pros it actually turns out a winner. Very descent sounds and a very well built drum module that when used with the app makes it a really powerful module. Not so many drum sounds but a lot of adjustments you can make and also a very useful extra app from Yamaha, called Rec’n’Share which lets you record and take video at the same time and also adjust mixing and timing. I’m very satisfied overall because it is a great practice kit that it is really worth buying it if you find it at a great used condition. I truly recommend it. And also I have to mention that despite the fact that the kit has rubber pads they have a great feel when played!! And it is also one of the most quiet kits I’ve ever played. Keep up the good work Justin!! Regards, Kostas!
It works as an audio interface. So if you want to record something - just send the sound perfectly well via USB. It excludes metronome sound, and also you can hear sound from computer or DAW. The only concern - you cannot change the volume of computer audio. Have bought the 452 month ago for 600 bucks (black friday). Happy that i got Yamaha instead of Alesis that seemed more reasonable taking price into advance. Drums are very fun things to play. Build quality is superb, as most times from Yamaha. Never thought iI would compose patterns I play clicking on any midi controller.
Great review! I purchased the 402k, basic model from Guitar Center USED for $349, the condition was LIKE NEW. Upgraded with the Yamaha Kick Tower (sold separately on Amazon for $65). This was my first electric drum set. I use a Simmons 200A amp. I think the kit sounds are good, I really only use the Maple Kit set up. The APP is really what sold me on this. The ability to customize your sounds on your phone is great. Haven’t dived into the training modes yet. When I play along with my iTunes songs the sound levels are mixed nicely by the module. I use my iPhone 8 Plus for this. Be aware you will need to buy a USB A to B cable, then you need to plug that into an Apple USB Camera to Lighting adapter! You need this for the app to work. I’m happy with it. I like the all rubber pads for sound reasons. I suggest buying Vic Firth Headphone, or a good quality pair of headphones, I played with average priced headphones and it sounded horrible! I think it looks good, basic black, minimal, doesn’t take up any space. I hung my stick bag on the Tom rack bar and put all my extra cables and adapters.
The app thing is a NIGHTMARE to get working when your phone's usb port is worn out. Of course it's not the module nor the app's fault, but they should have included bluetooth to avoid this issue.
i bought the dtx402k a few weeks back and this is my first drum kit ive owned so please forgive my ignorance if im not sure/clear about a few of the details. pro: 1)i really like the sounds for the price range(im a student and on a tight budget). 2)the module is really user friendly and so is the app ive not dug deep in but as far as ive seen it is highly and totally customisable. 3)the pads feel really good(even though they are rubber pads...tight budget hence rubber pads) cons: 1)really wish there was multiple zones on the snare for the 402k model. 2)the setup can be sometimes annoying like in the video(not as adjustable as id like it to be) 3)1 audio output.(this can be overcome by irig(works perfectly with iphone though) for recording and listening) really clear and crisp review, to the point! ps:ill try and explain what headphones i use/my recording setup if anyone is interested
I DO appreciate this video bro. I just purchased this set (452K I believe) and haven't "much" issues with it besides the drum pads being......cheap made and "tiny" feeling, just like the rack. Sound on the other hand is quite nice hooked up through a Peavey 5150 Combo guitar amp on clean. The drum/tom pads should be at least 9-10 inches across, and the snare could be much bigger in my opinion as well. The 3 part snare is cool, but a little "cramped" if you will. I paid 899.99 (which included yamaha drum stool and yamaha headphones at my local Long and McQuaid). Great content man!
I’ve had the 452k for 3 days. The rubber pads feel satisfying. I like the module and the fact I can edit pretty much everything without the app - the manual has good information. The training stuff is neat. The kick tower is okay - nothing to write home about. I had the issue with the double kick too so I put the single kick back on for now. The hi hat controller feel decent - the construction feels solid. The rack feels sturdy - I switched it around to play left handed. I would have liked to see Bluetooth to connect the app and music. For what it is the kit is pretty fun to play and I’m looking forward to trying out the app and using USB.
@@FucklesticksDo you need an amp to play through it, or can you just plug in headphones? Also, do you know if there's an aux input so that I can connect my phone or computer or whatever, and play along to songs?
@@johnkyle2205 I just use some run of the mill headphones and it's super loud at max volume, though you are going to need a 1/8” to 1/4” jack adapter, luckily i had one lying around. And yes there's a line in where i plug in my laptop, that one is in 1/8” already.
Bought one of these this week 2nd hand from a guy who bought it in April during lockdown and had given up, it’s basically as new and I got it for under half price. I’m a guitar player but fancied having a go at drums and this seemed like a cheap way to give it a go.
@Rohan Reed Basically, that drum fill sounds like the drum fill from the song “In the Air Tonight” by Phil Collins. The lyrics also goes like, “Can you feel it coming in the air tonight?” Just replace the “feel” with “fill”.
I would never buy a new entry level kit. I've seen the dtx522 as low as $400 once and multiple times for $500 on the second hand market. I actually bought a dtx502 drum module for $110 once. I'm hoping to see new mid range and flagship model kits from yamaha sometime. It's been long enough.
I think so many other companies were releasing flagships (Roland, Alesis, Pearl, Simmons hobbling back, DW/Gewa, Korg) that there was too much noise. Yamaha chose to innovate rather than arm wrestle with the EAD10. I'm sure these other companies are committed to their models for a few more years. Yamaha can release a flagship in that time that capitalizes on the shortcomings of the others. We all know Roland has an expansion and a couple -kvxsxyAD etc models yet. Alesis has to prove it's durability. Is this DW thing really happening? Are Pearl and Korg making the right move? Their hands are shown. Yamaha is in position to do well now. Anyway, I agree, I wish Yamaha had a little mercy to put a silicon snare pad on these kits.
Hi, one of your criticisms is that the module has only one stereo out and so you cannot listen to headphones and also have it run into a speaker. That problem can easily be solved by getting a cheap headphone splitter jack from Amazon or somewhere.
Hi Justin. Interesting review. Out of your three recommended kits, which of them would you recommend as a controller for triggering drum softsynths like Superior Drummer.
I live in Egypt where the Alesis Nitro Max sells for a whopping $803. The Yamaha DTX452K sells for $845 which is closer to the original $700 price tag. That being said, should I go with the Yamaha or are the mesh heads and bigger snare worth?
Thanks for the video. I got a question about the competition: in my country Yamaha DTX452K cost around 680 USD, while Alesis Nitro and Surge are overpriced and cost 550 and 800 USD and Roland isn't available at all. What would you recommend based on that?
Look for the 432k, it's cheaper and it's only missing the rimshot ability. I will say though, i love being able to play rimshots on my 452k so i guess it's up to your style.
Someone tell Yamaha it's 2018 lol this dinky rubber pad set should be listed at like $350... for the 452k. Ya. Yamaha = irrelevant. Just being honest. Great vid dude.
Yeah man, i bought a used td11k last year and i cant stand the damn rubber pads, feels so awkward so im saving up for mesh ones now. Yamaha seems to be digging themselves into a hole anymore
thank you very much for your videos, they are really helpful! in many of them you say that Alesis Surge has terrible samples. will this issue be solved if you load your own samples?
the alesis surge was 399$ on amazon for about 3 days 2 months ago or so. I thought it was a permanent drop, I stalled, and missed it. now I cry every night...
I recognize some of those bass drum sounds as they are the same as in my yamaha DD-20 I got in 2007. I wish Yamaha would make their "new" sound modules with new sounds.
If I'm just now deciding to learn drums, would this be the better choice over an Alesis Surge? I really like the look of the surge and the fact it is touted for being one of the quietest.. but judging based on comments, I should wait some time for them to improve? I'm not a pro, so the sound differences might not really be worth the extra $200 🤔
I purchased the DTX 450 K 2 years ago and I’ve never had a breakdown of any of the components.I put a splitter on the output to record(there is an app for that, too) the biggest con for me is with the add on cymbal, it runs through the kick drum tower. When you hit the add on crash with kick drum accent, you don’t hear the cymbal because of the cymbal running through the kick drum. You’ve mentioned the pad diameter issue. Otherwise the kit is decent. Maybe a little overpriced.
The adjustement of the hieght of the snare can be adjust more than higher than there in the video? And also on the other hand the hi hat can be adjust lower? Thanks
When you say the pads don't have a rim zone on them, does that mean that it would make it harder to play something like a Bossa Nova beat where it seems you're hitting the drumstick across the rim? I am not sure if that is correct or not, because I don't play drums but am looking into getting a kit to learn on and definitely want to eventually get into Latin rhythms.
I'd buy the 432K, and use the pads to add to my 542K-SW. Much cheaper than buying the pads separately, one at a time. And the extra rack parts would be nice
Hey Justin, I messed up my triggering settings quite badly. Do you know how to reset it to its default settings or do you have some better triggering settings to use?
I think the hint is if you really want a 3 zone snare then you are advanced enough that this shouldn't be the price range to look in. These are for beginner/hobbyist/experimenting/curious. So, a single zone rubber snare doesn't bother me since I'm pretty happy if my sticks don't collide in mid air. Rim shots and cross sticking are not a big priority. The DTXmania game doesn't even use multi-zone snare sounds. If I needed 3 zone snare I would probably not want rubber pads and this really small rack. I think these 402 series look nice in pictures but people should keep their expectations low before they buy them. They are simple midi triggers. They aren't fancy. They are good for games and messing around. They are disposable consumer electronics. My biggest complaints with the 400 and 402 series is the rubber pads actually produce such a loud noise when struck that I have to turn the volume up on the monitor to be louder than the stick hitting the rubber. It would drive someone nuts to hear that monotone tap sound without music if I used headphones. They would probably prefer to hear real drums, so the silence benefit is not completely true. Maybe if you are in a basement then no one can hear the pad tap, so that would work. But if they are in the other room, they will definitely hear the pad tap. The second complaint is that they barely accommodate a 6' tall person. Just barely. and if I want to raise just the hi hat, I'm out of luck. There is no way to raise it a few inches. And moving the snare arm also moves the hi hat and vice versa. The two are connected. And why use a square head acoustic drum tuning key as the nut driver for an e-kit? These exclusive square screws suck. The dude is correct, they are worth $300, which is what I paid. Nothing in my price range of $300 would be better, so these are as good as it gets. I don't have room for a bigger set so this was my only choice and it's completely adequate. But the 400 series is discontinued years ago and the 402 series will be discontinued very shortly. keep that in mind. The shelf life and support for these kits is short.
Problem I have is the spacing between the snare pad and hi hat. You are limited in the adjustment of the pad and cymbal. I cannot use traditional grip without hitting the hi hat with the butt end of the left hand stick going from snare to mounted Tom.
Yamaha should do a Christmas give away of these. Or a contest of some sort and this thing is the participation trophy lol At least someone might want to use one if it was free.
Ive had this kit for just over a year, it does the job, how ever ive had to replace the kick pad 3 times (lucky i got a 2 year warranty). The first time i had to replace it was my fault because i thrashed it with a double kick Pedal :( The other two times it just crapped out on me, i pulled the kick pad apart and noticed the trigger had disconnected from the pad itself. Ive resorted to using the “metal” preset kit 24/7 as i put the hi-hat clutch pedal where my kick pedal would go and use that as a bass drum. I mostly play thrash metal any ways so it works out...kinda.It is pretty annoying though because i paid $1500 for it (i live in New Zealand) however before it broke it was very decent, i still play it every day and have fun.
hey! i enjoy your content and now i have a question: I'm moving out of my parents house and can't take my acoustic set with me. so i'm planing on buying the roland TD-50KV. of course i can't afford it right now, so i thought i might get me a cheaper one for around 1000 bucks in the meantime. my question is: what (brand) set would you recommend? PS: i watched your videos on sets in different price ranges. should i buy a roland set now, because i want to buy the td50 later anyways or does the brand not mater? (i'd like to combine some parts eventually, if thats even possible and i thought i'd be easier if all parts were of the same making) EDIT: i think i like mesh better than rubber. keep up the good work and thanks sorry for bad spanish.
Alesis Nitro or dtx432, but 432 just has the better sound for me. Still, I will use EZDrummer. Didn't know that you don't have 2 outputs, thats a shame :/
I had the mid tier one for quite a while now. It does the job but it can get tiring and I just hate it now. Using it with addictive drums 2 makes it work a bit better but the rubber pads kill this kit. I would save up a bit more and get a Roland to be honest. I'm thinking of selling it and either getting an acoustic kit or a Roland kit. Overall a 7/10.
Honestly youre better off buying a yamaha kit from the early 2000s... I have a dtxplorer and it blows this shit out of the water.... kinda sad that an entry level kit (the predecessor to the 400 series) is able to do that in 2018. So many missing features in the new 400 series kits... and it somehow manages to sound WORSE than the dtxplorer. And it was only $199 used at guitar center.
I used to own the dx explorer it was my 1st ekit got it in 2006 or 07 and in 09 i sold it and got a roland td 9 and now i have an a to e with an ad5 module anyway i think my old dx explorer might be better than this
I always have wondered, how to make a "headphone" band, I mean, e-drums, guitar and bass pluged into a mixer (but what kind and stuff?) and outputted into several headphones. That would be cool and really people friendly i think.
I play a DTX502k, and I quite enjoy it, but I think what bothers me the most is the weird feel of the hi-hat pedal. Luckily there is an upgrade for this, (I believe it’s called a RHH135) but I live in Canada and its extremely hard to find a place that can ship it here, or is here.
@@mrc25381 this seems like a brilliant idea, but no, i tested wiring the hibat pedal through the pad add on plug in and it seems for some reason it doesnt work with the pedal specifically. idk if you know but you can always set your hihat pedal to be a second bass drum, though ofc you cant use your hihat pedal then. too bad your idea doesnt work :/
Yamaha hasn't updated their drum compatibility chart to include the 402 module, but it looks like the older one that 400 did support those pads. So my best guess is that the new module does as well
I owned an alesis nitro mesh, the sounds are terrible, and the cymbals are crap (the rack is also to low) . I sold it immediately. I have played this Yamaha, sound is much better, quality of the materials much better, for 100 euro, take the yamaha even with the rubber pads wich are very soft to play.
PFFFTT..... All they did was take the DTX400K, 430K AND 450K and change the cymbals cosmetically and they took the same 400 module and gave it a new exoskeleton. In fact the ONLY thing better is they finally got out of bed with CRAPple and added their app to android users. I detest apple!! But all in all, they really didnt make anything new. Very SAD Yamaha!!
65 Drums Not an upgrade at all IMO. At least the measly 10 kits have more rock and metal than the 400 module. That said U can wipe all of them and build whatever U want so its really inconsequential. It DOES sound like they added a better variety of sounds than the bone dry 400 module. On the 400, theres really only one kick sound I like and very limited "rock" sounds for the other pads. The 400 module was heavily modeled off their birch and maple kits, but again, very limited. It also still sounds very "machinegunny". How is it for expansion, Justin? Is it still set up for basically only one extra pad, routed through the kick tower? I really thought about getting a 502 module after I got my 430K. Around $250 at the time. I did add another pad, tho. Its a rubber pad from a wii drum controller. Does NOT work well with out of the box settings adjustment. Perhaps I could have tuned it better with the stupid apple app but I think I already expressed my feelings about CRAPple. HaHa, I HATE apple. Are U sure it will work with Android as well on this new module? Thats about the only plus I can think of. Oh well. My 430K helped get me started playing. Ive been trying to learn off and on for.the last couple years(at age 43). But havent really practiced much for the last 8 or so months. It also wasnt long after, actually a year after, I bought an accoustic kit. SPL Unity Birch 5 pc and 2 different cymbal sets. But I live in an apartment and dont have a lot of room for the kit or noise. Because of that and the E-kit being so boring, its really hard to keep my enthusiasm to play up. Id really like a nicer E-kit like a TD-30 but good luck with that. Sorry such a long comment.
hey, can anyone tell me which cable should i buy to connect my android phone to the usb to host? because i want to download the yamaha dtx452 touch app but i cant connect it
I bought this kit for $1500 (im in New Zealand) after playing it for a about a month the kick pad has already broken. Ive obviously got a warranty on it and can get it fixed but im surprised that it broke so soon, and it wasnt like i was especially abusing the kick i was just playing it normally then one day it just stopped working. Idk if this is a normal thing or jf mine was faulty, either way it was a pretty mean kit for a month hahah but yea pissed me off that it broke
And can anyone tell me what other apps are there for me to download to go along with this dtx452? (computer/android) and what cable should i get to connect it to my usb?
Great video as always man. It actually doesn't sound all that bad for what it is...but the price is so close to a used little roland. I've seen td9 for 500 bucks.
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Just purchased mine and i have to admit that for 544 euros (well, given the current prices and inflation) it really is the sweetspot between very nice quality of materials, decent sounds, capabilities and cost. Tried out the roland 07dmk and alesis nitro and the yamaha one felt more robust than either of them (roland is 200 euros + kick pedal more expensive). Was also worried about the rubber parts cause everyone praises mesh heads, but to me the mesh ones (at this price range) felt too bouncy. Pad size is really ok, yeah bigger could be better but i am really ok with the 8" ones. Rack is really steady, no issues whatsoever, and the height is perfect for an average sized person (i am 180cm tall with long legs and have no issues). Kit is really responsive with very nice trigger accuracy. I am only getting used to the HH pedal , doesnt really feel as a standard Hi Hat stand feels but that s to be expected. It also works for semi-closed and not only as open or closed. Hope i have been of help :)
Dude so much detail! This is excellent. I wish others went into nearly as much detail when I'm reviewing other things.
The most impressive thing was Justin getting all of the little boxes to fit back into the big one, that almost never happens!
Good luck getting all the components back in.
YES, i looked at the mess i had created after unboxing and said "f·ck it, if it breaks i'll just buy another one"
Loved your explanation of the various kits! The break down of info you gave is very telling, and helpful for choosing the right kit. Thank you for taking the time to explain each quirk and variation between the different manufacturers kits as well!
Dear Justin hello from Athens Greece!
I bought this drum set used for about 300$ and I have to say that I’m really impressed how much a value for money this is. This is not my first electronic drum kit but it is definitely the most money worth it compare to the other ones I had. It has its cons like you mentioned in your review but compared to the pros it actually turns out a winner. Very descent sounds and a very well built drum module that when used with the app makes it a really powerful module. Not so many drum sounds but a lot of adjustments you can make and also a very useful extra app from Yamaha, called Rec’n’Share which lets you record and take video at the same time and also adjust mixing and timing.
I’m very satisfied overall because it is a great practice kit that it is really worth buying it if you find it at a great used condition. I truly recommend it. And also I have to mention that despite the fact that the kit has rubber pads they have a great feel when played!!
And it is also one of the most quiet kits I’ve ever played.
Keep up the good work Justin!!
Regards, Kostas!
It works as an audio interface. So if you want to record something - just send the sound perfectly well via USB. It excludes metronome sound, and also you can hear sound from computer or DAW. The only concern - you cannot change the volume of computer audio.
Have bought the 452 month ago for 600 bucks (black friday). Happy that i got Yamaha instead of Alesis that seemed more reasonable taking price into advance.
Drums are very fun things to play. Build quality is superb, as most times from Yamaha.
Never thought iI would compose patterns I play clicking on any midi controller.
I have same kit. I am strugling to record while im playing with some youtube music? Module only 1 aux and one output. Any suggestion? Thanks
Great review! I purchased the 402k, basic model from Guitar Center USED for $349, the condition was LIKE NEW. Upgraded with the Yamaha Kick Tower (sold separately on Amazon for $65). This was my first electric drum set. I use a Simmons 200A amp. I think the kit sounds are good, I really only use the Maple Kit set up. The APP is really what sold me on this. The ability to customize your sounds on your phone is great. Haven’t dived into the training modes yet. When I play along with my iTunes songs the sound levels are mixed nicely by the module. I use my iPhone 8 Plus for this. Be aware you will need to buy a USB A to B cable, then you need to plug that into an Apple USB Camera to Lighting adapter! You need this for the app to work. I’m happy with it. I like the all rubber pads for sound reasons. I suggest buying Vic Firth Headphone, or a good quality pair of headphones, I played with average priced headphones and it sounded horrible! I think it looks good, basic black, minimal, doesn’t take up any space. I hung my stick bag on the Tom rack bar and put all my extra cables and adapters.
The app thing is a NIGHTMARE to get working when your phone's usb port is worn out. Of course it's not the module nor the app's fault, but they should have included bluetooth to avoid this issue.
concise, clear, thorough review - everything I wanted to know!
i bought the dtx402k a few weeks back and this is my first drum kit ive owned so please forgive my ignorance if im not sure/clear about a few of the details.
pro:
1)i really like the sounds for the price range(im a student and on a tight budget).
2)the module is really user friendly and so is the app ive not dug deep in but as far as ive seen it is highly and totally customisable.
3)the pads feel really good(even though they are rubber pads...tight budget hence rubber pads)
cons:
1)really wish there was multiple zones on the snare for the 402k model.
2)the setup can be sometimes annoying like in the video(not as adjustable as id like it to be)
3)1 audio output.(this can be overcome by irig(works perfectly with iphone though) for recording and listening)
really clear and crisp review, to the point!
ps:ill try and explain what headphones i use/my recording setup if anyone is interested
Can you please check if Yamaha song beats app(iOS only) works with this module.
I DO appreciate this video bro. I just purchased this set (452K I believe) and haven't "much" issues with it besides the drum pads being......cheap made and "tiny" feeling, just like the rack. Sound on the other hand is quite nice hooked up through a Peavey 5150 Combo guitar amp on clean. The drum/tom pads should be at least 9-10 inches across, and the snare could be much bigger in my opinion as well. The 3 part snare is cool, but a little "cramped" if you will. I paid 899.99 (which included yamaha drum stool and yamaha headphones at my local Long and McQuaid). Great content man!
Which do u prefer yamaha or Roland
I’ve had the 452k for 3 days. The rubber pads feel satisfying. I like the module and the fact I can edit pretty much everything without the app - the manual has good information. The training stuff is neat. The kick tower is okay - nothing to write home about. I had the issue with the double kick too so I put the single kick back on for now. The hi hat controller feel decent - the construction feels solid. The rack feels sturdy - I switched it around to play left handed. I would have liked to see Bluetooth to connect the app and music. For what it is the kit is pretty fun to play and I’m looking forward to trying out the app and using USB.
Hi. How about the drum pads? Is the quality good? I want to know if the components inside won't break after some months of playing.
@@Adam-Z96 Should be good. They put these in the higher end DTX6k-x aswell so. I've had mine for about 3 months so i can't really tell you much.
@@FucklesticksDo you need an amp to play through it, or can you just plug in headphones? Also, do you know if there's an aux input so that I can connect my phone or computer or whatever, and play along to songs?
@@johnkyle2205 I just use some run of the mill headphones and it's super loud at max volume, though you are going to need a 1/8” to 1/4” jack adapter, luckily i had one lying around. And yes there's a line in where i plug in my laptop, that one is in 1/8” already.
Love the summary at 0:10. What a cool feature. Thanks for the honest review.
Hey Man, Thank you so much this video was a ton of help! I never leave comments but I felt you really killed this so, thank you
Bought one of these this week 2nd hand from a guy who bought it in April during lockdown and had given up, it’s basically as new and I got it for under half price. I’m a guitar player but fancied having a go at drums and this seemed like a cheap way to give it a go.
yo man wanna sell it to me?
oh NVM i thought you gave up
When I packed up my son's DTX450K there was actually a diagram on the side of the box that showed how to pack it up. It's like tetris, really.
1:32 i guess you could say we felt that fill "coming in the air tonight" HAHAHAHA get it
@Rohan Reed Basically, that drum fill sounds like the drum fill from the song “In the Air Tonight” by Phil Collins. The lyrics also goes like, “Can you feel it coming in the air tonight?” Just replace the “feel” with “fill”.
I would never buy a new entry level kit. I've seen the dtx522 as low as $400 once and multiple times for $500 on the second hand market. I actually bought a dtx502 drum module for $110 once. I'm hoping to see new mid range and flagship model kits from yamaha sometime. It's been long enough.
I agree. Used is the only way to go with edrums. The prices are just ludicrously high. And I hope yamaha releases a new flagship
I think so many other companies were releasing flagships (Roland, Alesis, Pearl, Simmons hobbling back, DW/Gewa, Korg) that there was too much noise. Yamaha chose to innovate rather than arm wrestle with the EAD10. I'm sure these other companies are committed to their models for a few more years. Yamaha can release a flagship in that time that capitalizes on the shortcomings of the others. We all know Roland has an expansion and a couple -kvxsxyAD etc models yet. Alesis has to prove it's durability. Is this DW thing really happening? Are Pearl and Korg making the right move? Their hands are shown. Yamaha is in position to do well now.
Anyway, I agree, I wish Yamaha had a little mercy to put a silicon snare pad on these kits.
Yeah. It doesn't make any sense at all when this only costs US$100 less than DTX522K.
thanks heaps for the insightful vid. what do you reckon about the Yamaha DTX6K-X for the extra $'s ?
Probably the best review I’ve ever seen
Hi,
one of your criticisms is that the module has only one stereo out and so you cannot listen to headphones and also have it run into a speaker. That problem can easily be solved by getting a cheap headphone splitter jack from Amazon or somewhere.
Hi there, I am a just starting out learning drums and wondered would you recommend this kit over the Roland TD-1DMK Mesh E? Many thanks Mark
Hi Justin. Interesting review. Out of your three recommended kits, which of them would you recommend as a controller for triggering drum softsynths like Superior Drummer.
What is your opinion of the 450k? is it worth $100 in 2022?? Thanks for any help you can give me.
I live in Egypt where the Alesis Nitro Max sells for a whopping $803. The Yamaha DTX452K sells for $845 which is closer to the original $700 price tag. That being said, should I go with the Yamaha or are the mesh heads and bigger snare worth?
Thanks for the video.
I got a question about the competition:
in my country Yamaha DTX452K cost around 680 USD, while Alesis Nitro and Surge are overpriced and cost 550 and 800 USD and Roland isn't available at all.
What would you recommend based on that?
Look for the 432k, it's cheaper and it's only missing the rimshot ability. I will say though, i love being able to play rimshots on my 452k so i guess it's up to your style.
You cover so much in your reviews...gr8 job!
Found me a 432k for 199. Going to be my first ekit. Felt it was a decent deal for 199. Can't wait for it too get here : )
a great video, Justin! best of luck getting it all back in the box :)
Thanks John :)
you're welcome, Justin :)
I got these for my bday!
Nice review Justin!
Someone tell Yamaha it's 2018 lol this dinky rubber pad set should be listed at like $350... for the 452k. Ya. Yamaha = irrelevant. Just being honest. Great vid dude.
Yeah man, i bought a used td11k last year and i cant stand the damn rubber pads, feels so awkward so im saving up for mesh ones now. Yamaha seems to be digging themselves into a hole anymore
After the TD-17 and TD-1DMK Roland sets launched, none of the yamaha edrum sets make sense to buy anymore.
Silot is the td 17 a much better buy?
thank you very much for your videos, they are really helpful! in many of them you say that Alesis Surge has terrible samples. will this issue be solved if you load your own samples?
Nope, the sure won't let you do that. But you could trigger samples from a computer instead though
What do you recommend for $1000 range? Is the dtx502 series better?
the alesis surge was 399$ on amazon for about 3 days 2 months ago or so. I thought it was a permanent drop, I stalled, and missed it. now I cry every night...
Hello, what about the DTX 500k? Any thoughts?
I recognize some of those bass drum sounds as they are the same as in my yamaha DD-20 I got in 2007. I wish Yamaha would make their "new" sound modules with new sounds.
If I'm just now deciding to learn drums, would this be the better choice over an Alesis Surge? I really like the look of the surge and the fact it is touted for being one of the quietest.. but judging based on comments, I should wait some time for them to improve?
I'm not a pro, so the sound differences might not really be worth the extra $200 🤔
I purchased the DTX 450 K 2 years ago and I’ve never had a breakdown of any of the components.I put a splitter on the output to record(there is an app for that, too) the biggest con for me is with the add on cymbal, it runs through the kick drum tower. When you hit the add on crash with kick drum accent, you don’t hear the cymbal because of the cymbal running through the kick drum. You’ve mentioned the pad diameter issue. Otherwise the kit is decent. Maybe a little overpriced.
Bro which drum set will u you suggest Yamaha dtx 452k or Roland td 1dmk? Which one is best .I don't know which is better and value for money???
I like the sounds on the kit really nice 😄
The adjustement of the hieght of the snare can be adjust more than higher than there in the video? And also on the other hand the hi hat can be adjust lower? Thanks
excellent videos as always
Who has the best Edrums at the moment? Is it Roland or Gewa?
When you say the pads don't have a rim zone on them, does that mean that it would make it harder to play something like a Bossa Nova beat where it seems you're hitting the drumstick across the rim? I am not sure if that is correct or not, because I don't play drums but am looking into getting a kit to learn on and definitely want to eventually get into Latin rhythms.
I’m happy with my dtx522
Solid kit
I'd buy the 432K, and use the pads to add to my 542K-SW. Much cheaper than buying the pads separately, one at a time. And the extra rack parts would be nice
Top vid mate cheers.
Hey Justin, I messed up my triggering settings quite badly. Do you know how to reset it to its default settings or do you have some better triggering settings to use?
can you compares 452k & 522k ? which is best buy? thank you.
Getting my first drumset for Christmas ! Yeet
good for you :) what kit are you getting?
@@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums alesis dm10 mk2 studio
@@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums its got everything I need on it and I got it 400 bucks off
Is the 452 worth it over the 432 due to the 3 zone??
Notice you’re recommending 432 but it only has a 1 zone snare
I think the hint is if you really want a 3 zone snare then you are advanced enough that this shouldn't be the price range to look in. These are for beginner/hobbyist/experimenting/curious. So, a single zone rubber snare doesn't bother me since I'm pretty happy if my sticks don't collide in mid air. Rim shots and cross sticking are not a big priority. The DTXmania game doesn't even use multi-zone snare sounds. If I needed 3 zone snare I would probably not want rubber pads and this really small rack. I think these 402 series look nice in pictures but people should keep their expectations low before they buy them. They are simple midi triggers. They aren't fancy. They are good for games and messing around. They are disposable consumer electronics. My biggest complaints with the 400 and 402 series is the rubber pads actually produce such a loud noise when struck that I have to turn the volume up on the monitor to be louder than the stick hitting the rubber. It would drive someone nuts to hear that monotone tap sound without music if I used headphones. They would probably prefer to hear real drums, so the silence benefit is not completely true. Maybe if you are in a basement then no one can hear the pad tap, so that would work. But if they are in the other room, they will definitely hear the pad tap. The second complaint is that they barely accommodate a 6' tall person. Just barely. and if I want to raise just the hi hat, I'm out of luck. There is no way to raise it a few inches. And moving the snare arm also moves the hi hat and vice versa. The two are connected. And why use a square head acoustic drum tuning key as the nut driver for an e-kit? These exclusive square screws suck.
The dude is correct, they are worth $300, which is what I paid. Nothing in my price range of $300 would be better, so these are as good as it gets. I don't have room for a bigger set so this was my only choice and it's completely adequate. But the 400 series is discontinued years ago and the 402 series will be discontinued very shortly. keep that in mind. The shelf life and support for these kits is short.
Please make a review of the Millenium mps series!
Problem I have is the spacing between the snare pad and hi hat. You are limited in the adjustment of the pad and cymbal. I cannot use traditional grip without hitting the hi hat with the butt end of the left hand stick going from snare to mounted Tom.
Yamaha should do a Christmas give away of these. Or a contest of some sort and this thing is the participation trophy lol At least someone might want to use one if it was free.
Ive had this kit for just over a year, it does the job, how ever ive had to replace the kick pad 3 times (lucky i got a 2 year warranty). The first time i had to replace it was my fault because i thrashed it with a double kick
Pedal :( The other two times it just crapped out on me, i pulled the kick pad apart and noticed the trigger had disconnected from the pad itself. Ive resorted to using the “metal” preset kit 24/7 as i put the hi-hat clutch pedal where my kick pedal would go and use that as a bass drum. I mostly play thrash metal any ways so it works out...kinda.It is pretty annoying though because i paid $1500 for it (i live in New Zealand) however before it broke it was very decent, i still play it every day and have fun.
Hello, I’m trying to buy an amp for Yamaha DTX452K, but my question is, can I use an Alesis Strike 8 for it?
hey! i enjoy your content and now i have a question:
I'm moving out of my parents house and can't take my acoustic set with me. so i'm planing on buying the roland TD-50KV. of course i can't afford it right now, so i thought i might get me a cheaper one for around 1000 bucks in the meantime.
my question is: what (brand) set would you recommend?
PS: i watched your videos on sets in different price ranges. should i buy a roland set now, because i want to buy the td50 later anyways or does the brand not mater? (i'd like to combine some parts eventually, if thats even possible and i thought i'd be easier if all parts were of the same making)
EDIT: i think i like mesh better than rubber.
keep up the good work and thanks
sorry for bad spanish.
Get the td17
Great video. Thanks.
Just picked up this kit Yamaha dtx 402k for brand New out od box for $470 aud
Hello, which cable do you use to connect to the phone or ipad please?
Alesis Nitro or dtx432, but 432 just has the better sound for me. Still, I will use EZDrummer. Didn't know that you don't have 2 outputs, thats a shame :/
Keep it up Justin
HipHop kit's playing was cool
Please...a video of the reboxing of the kit!
What adapter did you need for the phone app snd where does it plug in ??
I believe it is possible to record from the app while you use the output with a headphone
If I find used yamaha dtx 450k so the older version, is that a good deal for 300 EURO ? how does this new version compare to the older one?
I had the mid tier one for quite a while now. It does the job but it can get tiring and I just hate it now. Using it with addictive drums 2 makes it work a bit better but the rubber pads kill this kit. I would save up a bit more and get a Roland to be honest. I'm thinking of selling it and either getting an acoustic kit or a Roland kit. Overall a 7/10.
Hi, what is it about the rubber pads you don't like?
Perfect man
Can you load your own samples?
Looks like yamaha is stuck in 2006
Honestly youre better off buying a yamaha kit from the early 2000s... I have a dtxplorer and it blows this shit out of the water.... kinda sad that an entry level kit (the predecessor to the 400 series) is able to do that in 2018. So many missing features in the new 400 series kits... and it somehow manages to sound WORSE than the dtxplorer. And it was only $199 used at guitar center.
I used to own the dx explorer it was my 1st ekit got it in 2006 or 07 and in 09 i sold it and got a roland td 9 and now i have an a to e with an ad5 module anyway i think my old dx explorer might be better than this
😂😂😂
...but most of the Roland sounds also sound like the 80s :-D
note that the TD-1DMK does not come with a kick pedal... so price does not reflect a complete system
Is it able to add another 2 zone cymbal pad as ride cymbal?
I always have wondered, how to make a "headphone" band, I mean, e-drums, guitar and bass pluged into a mixer (but what kind and stuff?) and outputted into several headphones. That would be cool and really people friendly i think.
jezusmylord they have raves in california were the dj connects to like... 100 wifi enabled headphones. It looks retarded to watch.
@@ajg8600 Yeah but try to have fun in a band while living in a flat.
jezusmylord your idea isnt a new one... im pretty sure thats how EVERY teenage band practices
I didnt say its a new idea and why is the point to just pick on the idea? @@ajg8600
Alesis surge or Yamaha 452k?
what's the cheapest 3 zone set that is worth? thank you
I play a DTX502k, and I quite enjoy it, but I think what bothers me the most is the weird feel of the hi-hat pedal. Luckily there is an upgrade for this, (I believe it’s called a RHH135) but I live in Canada and its extremely hard to find a place that can ship it here, or is here.
Can you buy another hi hat pedal to use as a second kick pedal?
@@mrc25381 this seems like a brilliant idea, but no, i tested wiring the hibat pedal through the pad add on plug in and it seems for some reason it doesnt work with the pedal specifically. idk if you know but you can always set your hihat pedal to be a second bass drum, though ofc you cant use your hihat pedal then. too bad your idea doesnt work :/
Playing the best sticks money can buy when playing a entry level kit 😏
Great review as always. I would really like to use the app.
Thanks Don! I like the app too
@@65Drums Hello Justin, What about the new Yamaha DTX482k, about € 750 in Europe ??
Hey Justin i have dtx432k can i change my snare to yamaha xp100sd or yamaha xp80?
Yamaha hasn't updated their drum compatibility chart to include the 402 module, but it looks like the older one that 400 did support those pads. So my best guess is that the new module does as well
@@65Drums thank you for the reply
also multiple videos on youtube of the double kick working fine, guessing its centered properly
That new gear smell...aaaah😃😎
Hi Justin. Can you please explain the reason for the two jacks and volume control on my yamaha dtxpress iv standard bass kick tower? Thanks
shadow world On the kick tower the second jack is for an extra cymbal and the volume is for the kick pad sensitivity.
12:24 Yo that ain't the Alesis Surge XD
Hi, I live in europe and I found the Yamaha dtx for under 500 €, in comparison alesis nitro mesh is 399€ so is it worthy for me?
I owned an alesis nitro mesh, the sounds are terrible, and the cymbals are crap (the rack is also to low) . I sold it immediately. I have played this Yamaha, sound is much better, quality of the materials much better, for 100 euro, take the yamaha even with the rubber pads wich are very soft to play.
O I have one and I was wondering if you did🥁
PFFFTT.....
All they did was take the DTX400K, 430K AND 450K and change the cymbals cosmetically and they took the same 400 module and gave it a new exoskeleton.
In fact the ONLY thing better is they finally got out of bed with CRAPple and added their app to android users. I detest apple!! But all in all, they really didnt make anything new. Very SAD Yamaha!!
It's not a big upgrade on the old version. The new stuff is softer rubber Tom pads, redesigned cymbals, better sounds. I was hoping for more :/
65 Drums
Not an upgrade at all IMO. At least the measly 10 kits have more rock and metal than the 400 module. That said U can wipe all of them and build whatever U want so its really inconsequential. It DOES sound like they added a better variety of sounds than the bone dry 400 module. On the 400, theres really only one kick sound I like and very limited "rock" sounds for the other pads. The 400 module was heavily modeled off their birch and maple kits, but again, very limited. It also still sounds very "machinegunny".
How is it for expansion, Justin? Is it still set up for basically only one extra pad, routed through the kick tower?
I really thought about getting a 502 module after I got my 430K. Around $250 at the time. I did add another pad, tho. Its a rubber pad from a wii drum controller. Does NOT work well with out of the box settings adjustment. Perhaps I could have tuned it better with the stupid apple app but I think I already expressed my feelings about CRAPple. HaHa, I HATE apple. Are U sure it will work with Android as well on this new module? Thats about the only plus I can think of.
Oh well. My 430K helped get me started playing. Ive been trying to learn off and on for.the last couple years(at age 43). But havent really practiced much for the last 8 or so months. It also wasnt long after, actually a year after, I bought an accoustic kit. SPL Unity Birch 5 pc and 2 different cymbal sets. But I live in an apartment and dont have a lot of room for the kit or noise. Because of that and the E-kit being so boring, its really hard to keep my enthusiasm to play up. Id really like a nicer E-kit like a TD-30 but good luck with that. Sorry such a long comment.
can it upgrade the snare pad ?
Justin do you have a Roland td11k?
Nope
hey, can anyone tell me which cable should i buy to connect my android phone to the usb to host? because i want to download the yamaha dtx452 touch app but i cant connect it
I bought this kit for $1500 (im in New Zealand) after playing it for a about a month the kick pad has already broken. Ive obviously got a warranty on it and can get it fixed but im surprised that it broke so soon, and it wasnt like i was especially abusing the kick i was just playing it normally then one day it just stopped working. Idk if this is a normal thing or jf mine was faulty, either way it was a pretty mean kit for a month hahah but yea pissed me off that it broke
Did they give you a new one?
the 402 also has chokable cymbals which the 400 doesnt
2:45 "WOOOOW "KICK" fatal
Will the yamaha dtx502 touch app work with the dtx500 series module ??
it's just for the 502 series of modules
John D Robinson electronic drums thank you 😁
And can anyone tell me what other apps are there for me to download to go along with this dtx452? (computer/android)
and what cable should i get to connect it to my usb?
Nice!
...but is that FELT I see on the kick?! LOL!!
Thanks :) and yup it's felt, doesn't do any harm on rubber kick pads
@@65Drums ...aaah ok... I thought FELT was a no no for eDrumKits ;)
Oh yeah felt shreds through mesh kick heads
@@65Drums got it! Mesh = No Felt but Rubber = Anything you desire!
Can you add an extra cymbal and tom?
Great video as always man. It actually doesn't sound all that bad for what it is...but the price is so close to a used little roland. I've seen td9 for 500 bucks.
É possível aplicar paths para usar outros kits de bateria?
Cool
Can you view into Carlsbro csd 500!?
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