As a Dispatcher who has worked with Flybe for the past year, genuinely heartbroken to see the airline go down and all the amazing staff with it. As well as this though a lot of ground handling staff who delt with Flybe are on the risk of loosing their jobs in the coming days. Thoughts are with everyone!
I used flybe on a regular basis, my last flight two days before bankruptcy. There was no indication of its demise. If any of the crews are reading this then I'd like to say a big thank you for your professionalism in keeping us safe in the sky.
feel sad for all the people affected by this im near Southampton airport and most of the flights out of there was Flybe . Love watching your vlogs you explain everything very well . keep up the great work .
Sad day. I work at Manchester and it has been bad enough seeing the Thomas Cook planes stood there. I hope all their crews find new jobs soon. Love to them all x
@@GUITARTIME2024 well guy, the Beatles did has a say : "when I saw her standing there"... there you go, it's not "stood there" ...!! cheers mate, hope the employees be able to find alternative jobs or its time to be doing your own things, like being self employed. Sad day.
That last shot of the dash 8 taking off was really sad yet beautiful I live near Belfast City Airport, and it's strangely quiet. All the best to everyone who has been affected by this tragedy.
Yeah...probably really difficult to get a new job in the aviation industry at the moment, considering that the Corona Virus will likely go on for months.
I feel bad for the pilots. But thats it. I feel more bad for customers who get ripped off every day due to exorbitant fees that airlines charge people that dont need to be charged for.
I recall the very emotional video of the flight crew announcement of Thomas Cook Air. He was sobbing and crying like crazy through the announcement with the passengers applauding with encouragement. Might be the same. :'(
I own an ADS-B receiving unit (SBS-1) and it feels strange not to see Flybe aircraft going up and down the UK on my screen and on the approach to Manchester. I never thought I would miss DHC-8's so much on my screen. Good luck to all those that have potentially lost their jobs, may you soon find other employment on the ground or back in the air.
Hopefully more routes will be viable for other operators. Anyone think Virgin might operate any feeder routes into MAN? Loganair have already stepped into some routes from Scotland and Newcastle.
I'm in the other direction, but Exeter is still my local airport - also terribly saddened, although with the way the airline was managed into the ground in recent years I'm unfortunately not surprised :( just hope someone picks up the local routes. Some of Flybe's routes were loss-making but run as a social service ( much like some rail routes are ) - those also need picking up but I worry noone is going to do it.
Same tesla (Torquay, i've always felt so lucky to have such an amazing local airport and flybe) 2000+ jobs and 80% of Exeters flights. It's tragic and scary what the impacts could be for us. Not being selfish for how upset i am myself for what an important and professional service flybe has provided to me. But deeply sadened for everyone who suffers uncertanty over there jobs now. I just hope this ends as good as it can. Logan air news on day 1 is a start. Is it enough to save exeter airport and jobs? don't want to think to much about that but it provides hope fkor everyone involved
I have only just stumbled upon this upload. As an Englishman who now lives in the Netherlands for 3 years, i must say that my situation would not be possible without Flybee. 2 years prior to moving here i was constantly traveling with Flybee from Exeter to Amsterdam Schipol every 4/5 weeks for over 2 years before becoming a resident in the NL. I never encountered any issues/delays that would affect my timetable. THe Aircraft was always full. I have only the best of praise for that Airline. I was amazed that no one grabbed thier recent, at the time, gate at Heathrow, part of the Virgin Atlantic proposition as mentioned in the video. A sad loss for many passengers but even more so for Employees. My means of returning/visiting the UK now is EasyJet to Bristol. Bristol to Exeter via Train is prohibitive by price. PS...Does any comercial aircraft fly from Exeter now?
Birmingham airport can't seem to get a break. First Monarch, then Thomas Cook and now FlyBe. Remember when BA was a true flag carrier and flew regional?
I'm from Southampton ... Very very sad situation, Southampton has over 1,000 jobs in Flybe ... After Ford left Southampton many workers went to flybe ... A Great little carrier and job supplier will be sadly missed and Southampton will be badly hit now .. The very best of luck to those now seeking work ... x
The economic bubble was always going to pop. A lot more pain on the horizon. If there's one thing we learn from history is that no one learns from history.
I will not panic and continu flying. Corona or not. I will travel to different places in the world, but refuse to panic. I will miss Flybe at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport. I filmed and photographed them many times. I also wish the employees all the best.
Thank you for the great video, really appreciate it. But a quick note: as, far as I know APD (Air Passenger Duty) is NOT an environmental tax at all... In the sense that the money just goes to general use, as far as I know. The Government can spend it where it sees fit and it is not ring-fenced for any environmentally-beneficial uses.
Correct in that it is not spent on green jobs-- nor on mitigating the Carbon effects of the flight. Wrong in that every increase in price discourages some customers. Taxing aviation is therefore a market intervention which could have green effects. Even if the airport tax was not originally for that reason, removing it now is sending the wrong signals to the market, as the environmental groups correctly said. The monetarists want Carbon-pricing and Carbon taxes to be the only form of control. Others want regulation as well.
@@MentourPilot Hi one of the bigger companies in Sweden SAS is dismissing staff now because of the virus no one dares to fly that much unfortunately. The aviation industry is an incredibly complicated workplace and there are many companies involved.
Clearly these businesses are being run on a knife edge, without and financial buffer for the unexpected. Sure prudent management should have contingency plans and financial resilience against an incident that is only a few weeks old. The problem is that they are in debt up to the max, and as soon as the unexpected occurs, they go broke. Are not the executive team there to plan for the unexpected or do the get their big salaries for running something that just ticks over if nothing changes and if the get a suprise the run for the administrators to sort it out. What skills are they being paid actally for?
I liked Flybe, same way as i liked Monarch. Basic but functional. Sad to see these smaller airlines going down.Hope everyone finds new employment quickly.
O'Leary must be so happy about this sad news, although I can't imagine with (not) his aircrafts configuration of 189 seats to take some of Flybe routes...
I work at Aircraft Services. Today, 13th March, has been my first shift back after a holiday during which the news about Flybe came out. There has been talk of redundancies in work today. Losing Thomas Cook, then Flybe jet ops and now flybe altogether the number of daily flights have dropped to the point that management feels we cannot employ as much staff any more.
I've been a frequent flyer with Flybe for nearly 10 years, and this is terrible news and I wish all the best the the incredible crew and their families. Good to hear however that LoganAir are picking up some of their key routes.
Disagree on Brexit - there has been no impact whatsoever, Flybe were always very cheap and a couple of quid on a fare to compensate for increased fuel costs wouldn't have been a factor. That's if you even believe fuel has gone up. As a driver in the UK, petrol is 116p per litre, in August 2016 it was 111p per litre, in 2011 it was up to 140p per litre! And at short periods it has actually dropped below one pound per litre since Brexit. Now I assume the oil price dictates aviation fuel in the same way it does petrol. So no, not a factor. The problem is they expanded too quick, hedged their bets on more passengers, spent over a billion on new jets (which weren't compatible with the airports they served), and they didn't grow with their investment. Flybe operated to a very niche market, ie those who didn't live near a medium to large airport. The structure and misguided ambition of the company screwed them, not Brexit.
We have a similar problem in the U.S., where many smaller towns lack commercial connections to the outside, particularly by air. Businesses are reluctant to locate there, viewing the place as almost at the end of the world. The problem is still worse for towns that lack rail lines or an Interstate nearby. Rail allows raw materials to be brought in cheaply. The Interstate makes shipping finished products out easier. If you want to see the result. Look at a satellite map of the U.S. at night. Big cities are huge blotches of light. They're connected by strings of smaller lights that are the towns that are doing well because they're located on an Interstate. Elsewhere, there's a lot of dark areas. Where I live is doing quite well. A rail line paralleling an Interstate makes it great for industry. The local airport, with 5200 ft. and a 4000 ft runways, can handle corporate jets. The result are businesses that attract other business, as well as cultural amenities and numerous retail stores. That's aided by having the largest university in the state. Those issues weren't helped by the loss of jobs to China. Less cost-effective factories in small towns were the first to go. The supply issues created by the coronavirus may change that though. It's better to have a supply chain that's 40 miles up a two-lane road that one that extends to a corrupt dictatorship halfway around the world.
Sad to hear, nice airline and hopefully all routes will be taken over by other and that staff find other job. Great that you show concern for others Mr Pilot!
Yes this is VERY SAD!. I can relate!, I was 21 years old and was working in the last few years of the Great Pioneers of Aviation--> PAN AM. We loved Pan Am, but the Unions destroyed them. Love you all in this forum! This is a great source of Valid, Professional, Accurate Information and we love you all for it!!!♥️♥️♥️👍👍👍
I agree with Jon below. The fluctuating pound didn't have that much of an effect. Flybe flew some very profitable routes with will covered by a very small airline called Eastern. Two main issues, the air passenger duty tax is effectively paid twice because most of its flights were taking off and landing within UK (airports). This meant it spent millions more on this tax than other airlines. Secondly, was its aggressive expansion plan about the 5-10yrs ago. They leased more costly embraer aircraft which they shouldn't have done. The lasts 3 years flybe have been trying to ditch their commitment to those expensive leases to save money returning to the back bone aircraft (dash Q400).
The pound is rising against the euro. The pound is down this year about 1% to the US dollar. However the price of oil is down 30% in 2020. FlyBe's demise has nothing to do with Brexit no matter how much you euro's try to claim it is.
Flybe had perfected the art of annoying the stupid customer who didn't read or ignored the cabin baggage size rules by charging £50 to load oversize cabin baggage at boarding. Right in terms of the deal but terrible optics. Every time I flew with them someone was delayed by the bag check. Also, the management from pre-rescue were retained and they had expanded on the back of low interest rates and had a bewildering range of flights. I hope that someone fills the gap and the staff can be found new jobs, I always enjoyed flying with them.
Exactly right. Flying out of Southampton early in the morning they would employ one person to stand by the entrance to security to measure every wheelie bag, and one more to "guide" passengers to the check in desks (which were all only for Flybe anyway). If you were lucky there were 2 people checking you in. All while the self service check in machines they had bought sat idle (apparently fell foul of some EU regulation).
I feel so sorry for the staff. Although I hope you're right with your views with Covid19 not having a prolonged effect on the industry, I share a different view. I think we're going to see prolonged effects and a negative effect on economies. I hope your view is the one that prevails!
As a Microbiologist I feel certain that 19-nCoV is going to be a far worse problem than the general Public are aware of. These (relatively) compact single strand RNA viruses undergo rapid host adaptation, and we should expect a number of genetically distinct, highly host-optimised lineages to emerge as the virus moves into "new" (for it) human populations. This alone will complicate vaccine development, and should 19-nCoV follow the trends seen in other SS RNA viruses (typically Influenza) then we may see recombination / antigenic re-assortment occurring, which will further limit vaccine efficacy. Then, there's the problem that the Coronaviridae (and Rhinoviridae) are not particularly immunogenic - which is why there's no effective vaccine for the Common Cold. Combine this with current evidence that incubation periods may be highly variable, re-infection has occurred (sometimes with fatal outcome), and there are asymptomatic "super-spreaders" already known to exist, and the outcome (for us) may not be quite as rosy as the popular press seem to think.
Gulf War in 1990 - 91, SARS in 2003, volcanic eruptions in Iceland in 2010 and the coronavirus in 2020...almost every 10 years something very serious & unpleasant hits airline industry with heavy damage... I experienced personally all of them except the last one...I really wish Flybe staff will be employed soon by other companies and at the same time I wish all the airlines which are suffering hugely in this period will survive this enormous crisis.
I think bad management has a lot to do with it. We used to regularly use the excellent Flybe service from Exeter to Norwich to visit our son. Never were the flights more than half full. Why they chose to use an Embraer 195 instead of something smaller and more economical that they could run full up and charge a realistic fare I have no idea. The fares were ridiculously cheap because there was insufficient demand and they couldn't sell all the seats. It was literally half the cost of getting the train. A fifty or sixty seat plane would be profitable on this route.
The Virgin rescue was a smokescreen in order to gain Heathrow slots, they effectively let this airline bleed to death, with no interest whatsoever in saving this ailing carrier. Since the 1980's we have lost numerous carriers like Dan Air/British Air Ferries/ British Caledonian/British Midland/Euroair/Air UK/Brymon/Air Europe/Monarch/Thomas cook/Excalibur airlines/European Air Charter/British World Airlines/and Britannia Airways, I'm sure there are one or two I have missed ? But it's the nature of the beast unfortunately. Personally I'd rather see the demise of the likes of Ryanair and Easyjet, they have destroyed the concept of flying.
That's not the most accurate of listings. Some of those went backrupt and ceased operations, some of them were simply re-branded and live on today. Britannia never went anywhere. They had been part of the Thomson group for decades and simply re-branded to Thomsonfly, then to Thomson Airways when they merged with First Choice. Re-branded again to TUI Airways today. The same staff, fleet and base in Luton. AirUK also lives on. KLM had a share in the company for years, then bought a majority share and re-branded it to KLM UK, before merging it into the overall KLM Cityhopper brand. Neither had gone into administration or any kind of financial rescue.
@@BrySkye yes I know, but to have our once famous brand Britannia/Thomson holidays in the hands of a nation who inflicted untold misery on our people during two world wars really epitomises our lack of control of our industries. And for what it's worth, air UK is now Dutch.
Your nostalgia is rather misplaced, albeit revealing. Thomson Holidays was never 'British' either. It was formed when a Canadian conglomerate (Thomson) bought and merged several companies, including Britannia, back in the 60's just after the airline was founded. And I did mention Air UK became KLM UK then KLM Cityhopper. I'm well aware where KLM is from. So what? The modern world is an international one and it affects everyone. British Airways effectively owns Spains national flag carrier these days (Though who knows what legal wrangling is going to be required in that regard soon). Speaking of, and changing tact, what ended the British Midland International brand? IAG buying it *from* Lufthansa, just so British Airways could get those Heathrow slots (or rather make sure Virgin couldn't get them). We took back control to absorb it into BA, and sell off the two UK Regional divisions to die. I have some very good personal memories with Britannia, and I miss its brand and especially livery, but those are ultimately trivial details compared to a service still being provided and people still being employed. Putting re-branding of what are ultimately very successful airlines, part of the reason they were bought, into the same group as failed or failing ones is misleading, just as the origin nation of the parent company is irrelevant.
Nostalgia is not a bad thing. Although looking backwards usually makes one overestimate the great things. National unity, pride in ones nation and culture. And forget the the bad things like WWI and WWII. I realize that we are bombarded from every angle with positive propaganda that the world of business is now international. But that usually is only great for a small number of people who don’t care about anyone except their own. Brexit is a reversal. I’m American and glad to see it. The spreading virus could be viewed as a negative, or is being used to consolidate gains and clamp down on international control. WHO (pun intended), in their right mind, thinks that the UN should be the coordinator of responses to pandemics like this? I suggest only those who personally benefit financially. Your milage may vary.
few friends booked flights for next week just at the beginning of this week. They knew about some troubles with flybe, but no one expected it to happen within those 10 days between booking and takeoff :(
that airline treated its customers with utter disdain and were always late, the new airline, from my first experience just under a month ago is immeasurably better than the old airline
Flybe's fares were too expensive and the routes not flown frequently enough for me. I tried to fly to Shetland from Orkney - 1 flight per day at the time , so an overnight was needed to attend a 2 hour job. I took the ferry - got in early morning and away again at 3pm. Much lower cost and no hotel costs. As for Passenger Tax - please explain how taxation will save the planet ( which isnt in danger anyway)
well, a business can only fly as often as they have demand. if they fly every hour, but only fill 40% of their seats, it won't be profitable. but if the fly once a day, but are able to fill up every seat, thats profitable. doesn't mean that those flight make sense for you personally.
The routes, gates and times are the real value of the airline. This is one way to shed the less profitable routes. I followed the original Frontier Airlines now owned by Republic a decade ago. This is sad as less used airports will see ticket prices increase substantially.
Captain, another corona virus update would be welcome. What is the overall buzz in the industry now?Are flight schedules getting trimmed? What does the drop in passangers look like to date? Do other airlines in Europe seem to be in trouble? Its a sad time.
I flew them from RAF Valley, Anglesey Cardiff for £14. The put me by the over-wing exit because I told them Petter told me how to operate it. Shame, because they were a great Airline.
I don't know much about the train system in the UK. But from looking at a map of GB, this country really would be perfect for a high speed train line from the north to the south.
I did too (from SPI)... the square-looking back end always seemed to bring a mental picture of a skydiving plane or similar. Not being pressurized was really bad on my ears ..wow!
Very sad. As has been said, hopefully some of the staff can find jobs quickly. The contraction of the industry due to the Cronovirus could not have come at a worse time for those guys. Back in the early 80s I was working for a ground handling agency and we handled the ‘ancestor’ of Flybe, Jersey European Airways (JEA)) At the time they were operating EMB110s, Shorts 330 and 360, and DH Twin Otters. At the point where I moved into a different area of aviation, JEA were introducing the Fokker F27 into their fleet.
It may help the other smaller companies like Eastern and Logan survive the downturn better. APD should be disposed of as this is simply a tax on the consumer and an unfair levy on small local airlines
Can you make a video about being a pilot process? Like do you have a say to which aircraft you want to fly? How do they train you and according to what?
Sad to see FlyBe go under. At some point I relocated and went from almost exclusively flying Ryanair to having to fly FlyBe or big boys like Lufthansa because Stansted or other Ryanair hubs were too far from where I lived. FlyBe was absolutely fantastic, I loved them, compared to Ryanair it was night and day.
I haven’t watched all your videos so l am not sure if this question has been covered. What is the rate of cabin air changes? What is the heating arrangement? Where dose the fresh air come from? Are air filters used if so what is the change rate? Is humidity a problem? I have so many questions about air quality in the cabin and how it is manage. Is this something that you could explain? Many thanks, Paul
Flew them once from AMS to LCY when my Cityjet flight got cancelled and got rebooked on them. It was showing that they were struggling. Service and everything was just sub par compared to CJ for example. Unfortunate, especially for their people.
Hi! I have a question or suggestion for a video. I was on a a320 flight where the "barking sound" was heard for the entire flight of almost 2h. As i understand this is a measure to maintaine hydraulic pressure, indicating some kind of fault. How do you know which kind of failures you can still fly with? And what kind of problems with the aircraft are you allowed to still fly with?
AIUI the barking sound indicates an imbalance in pressure between the hydraulic systems; this is perfectly normal during startup when only one engine is running. Maybe one of the hydraulic pumps was bad on your plane?
@@CoolerQ yes, i guess that is what happened. But i think it would be interesting with a video about kind of which problems you can fly with inclouding examples of it.
I have much been hear from Flybe, and find it very sad, that they now are bankrupt. But manny airlines going for... Like Aero Pero, Air Holland, Thomas Cook, and many more. It is allso that risk, that you have, if you have a small airliner. BTW... You re a very good potcast maker, Mentour👮✈
So many comments already yet nobody mentions the word "train". Since FlyBe was focusing on domestic flights, perhaps it's a sign that people move their short travel to trains.
Well that would be fantastic ! Brilliant idea, just one problem I can forsee....COST ! from Maidstone Kent to Liverpool was over £200 single with 5 train changes, the air fare via Amsterdam was £85 with one change, and was two hours quicker, it's been highlighted on here in a video. Folk won't switch to trains until the train operating companies recognise that they have to seriously reduce fares.
I used to regularly fly with Flybe from Southampton to Manchester, which was one of their profitable routes, with them often able to charge up to £300 peak time return. Yet travelling by train took much longer, and cost the same.
feeling sad for all the flybe staff who will be again out hunting for jobs .sad...we in india saw kingfisher airlines and jet airways go out of business after a period of roaring success....remain cheerful you all will fly again soon....
Pre 80s people were not going here and there on aircraft on a wim . The current aircraft usage, and travel miles in all forms of transport has never been greater in human history. We are in uncharted territory. The last 8? civilizations have all been and gone. Seperate fro this issue, I can not work out where all th exaust fumes go at 35000ft.
The word is, that the UK Govt were poised to help, but discovered that virtually all Flybe's assets had been mortgaged, leaving no collateral for a loan. Don't know whether this happened before or after the Virgin takeover! This happened too soon after the Jan threat of closure to be caused by the coronavirus. I don't suppose the rumour that Virgin saw the chance to get Flybe's Heathrow slots on the cheap had any relevance?
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What happened during the Icelandic volcano crisis after the fall in passenger numbers? Did governments step in and subsidize the companies or was air travel just in a better state back then?
Gutted. As I was when Monarch and Thomas Cook went the same way. Heart goes out to all involved. Personally I think the government should have put their hand in their pocket and helped out. Stop handing out millions to foreign aid and look after our own interests first, after all Flybe were providing largely a service for our business men and work force flying around the U.K. and near continent. As their logo said quicker than road or rail. They will be surely missed, cannot imagine what it will be like without them.🇬🇧
It wouldn’t surprise me if stobart air take the employees from Flybe but also virgin Atlantic might also employ some since those two airlines founded connect airways who owned flybe
I can’t imagine a regional who is not a contract carrier being profitable. Any time you start making money the big guys can jump in with predatory pricing using their own leased aircraft. In the US as long as the parent does well, their contract carriers will do well. The contract carriers/regionals pay much lower salaries than the Big Boys which is incentive enough to keep those Big Boys from operating regional aircraft. I wish the best of luck to now laid off employees from Fly Be’s shutdown. The uncertainty must have been hell. I hope you all find higher paying jobs with other airlines
As a Dispatcher who has worked with Flybe for the past year, genuinely heartbroken to see the airline go down and all the amazing staff with it. As well as this though a lot of ground handling staff who delt with Flybe are on the risk of loosing their jobs in the coming days. Thoughts are with everyone!
I used flybe on a regular basis, my last flight two days before bankruptcy. There was no indication of its demise. If any of the crews are reading this then I'd like to say a big thank you for your professionalism in keeping us safe in the sky.
feel sad for all the people affected by this im near Southampton airport and most of the flights out of there was Flybe . Love watching your vlogs you explain everything very well . keep up the great work .
Yeah, I feel so bad for them as well.
Thanks for your kind words.
@@MentourPilot your very welcome
@@jeffto23ify *you're
Desperately sad for Flybe crews and staff.
Barney Leith my dad was a pilot for Flybe.
Sad day. I work at Manchester and it has been bad enough seeing the Thomas Cook planes stood there. I hope all their crews find new jobs soon. Love to them all x
@@GUITARTIME2024 well guy, the Beatles did has a say : "when I saw her standing there"...
there you go, it's not "stood there" ...!!
cheers mate, hope the employees be able to find alternative jobs or its time to be doing your own things, like being self employed. Sad day.
You're such a genuine and lovely person...your empathy and compassion are truly remarkable sir.
Thank you.
That last shot of the dash 8 taking off was really sad yet beautiful I live near Belfast City Airport, and it's strangely quiet. All the best to everyone who has been affected by this tragedy.
Thank you for a full and cogent explanation. Your pain for those affected is almost tangible. We all hope for a speedy recovery in the industry.
I live in Belfast near the airport and I am so used to seeing Flybe taking off right above my house. I will miss them a lot ❤
I feel really bad for the flybe crew :(
Yeah...probably really difficult to get a new job in the aviation industry at the moment, considering that the Corona Virus will likely go on for months.
@@TheGerudan True :(
I feel bad for the pilots. But thats it. I feel more bad for customers who get ripped off every day due to exorbitant fees that airlines charge people that dont need to be charged for.
I recall the very emotional video of the flight crew announcement of Thomas Cook Air. He was sobbing and crying like crazy through the announcement with the passengers applauding with encouragement. Might be the same. :'(
Me too hate seeing failures
I own an ADS-B receiving unit (SBS-1) and it feels strange not to see Flybe aircraft going up and down the UK on my screen and on the approach to Manchester. I never thought I would miss DHC-8's so much on my screen. Good luck to all those that have potentially lost their jobs, may you soon find other employment on the ground or back in the air.
All my support to the FlyBe staff, and huge thanks for all the good journeys from and towards UK.
As a citizen of Torbay near Exeter I'm extremely saddened by Flybe's demise D*: On the plus side though at least there are free slots to take up
If there's demand something better should take its place that wouldn't have been economic before.
Hopefully more routes will be viable for other operators. Anyone think Virgin might operate any feeder routes into MAN? Loganair have already stepped into some routes from Scotland and Newcastle.
I'm in the other direction, but Exeter is still my local airport - also terribly saddened, although with the way the airline was managed into the ground in recent years I'm unfortunately not surprised :( just hope someone picks up the local routes.
Some of Flybe's routes were loss-making but run as a social service ( much like some rail routes are ) - those also need picking up but I worry noone is going to do it.
Logan fly from Cornwall too.
Same tesla (Torquay, i've always felt so lucky to have such an amazing local airport and flybe) 2000+ jobs and 80% of Exeters flights. It's tragic and scary what the impacts could be for us. Not being selfish for how upset i am myself for what an important and professional service flybe has provided to me. But deeply sadened for everyone who suffers uncertanty over there jobs now. I just hope this ends as good as it can. Logan air news on day 1 is a start. Is it enough to save exeter airport and jobs? don't want to think to much about that but it provides hope fkor everyone involved
i'm really sad for flybe,it was a great airline with a brilliant inflight crew...i was alway's looking forward to flying with them..."THANK YOU "
Such a sad state of affairs... thank you for sharing this with us! All the best from the west coast of Florida USA!!!
One of my favourite airlines now gone 😭 what would happen to all those who were in training to become pilots with Flybe?
I have only just stumbled upon this upload. As an Englishman who now lives in the Netherlands for 3 years, i must say that my situation would not be possible without Flybee. 2 years prior to moving here i was constantly traveling with Flybee from Exeter to Amsterdam Schipol every 4/5 weeks for over 2 years before becoming a resident in the NL. I never encountered any issues/delays that would affect my timetable. THe Aircraft was always full. I have only the best of praise for that Airline. I was amazed that no one grabbed thier recent, at the time, gate at Heathrow, part of the Virgin Atlantic proposition as mentioned in the video. A sad loss for many passengers but even more so for Employees. My means of returning/visiting the UK now is EasyJet to Bristol. Bristol to Exeter via Train is prohibitive by price. PS...Does any comercial aircraft fly from Exeter now?
Flybe
You will always be remembered
Birmingham airport can't seem to get a break. First Monarch, then Thomas Cook and now FlyBe. Remember when BA was a true flag carrier and flew regional?
What about the great DAN AIR more out of Manchester & Gatwick
I'm from Southampton ... Very very sad situation, Southampton has over 1,000 jobs in Flybe ... After Ford left Southampton many workers went to flybe ... A Great little carrier and job supplier will be sadly missed and Southampton will be badly hit now .. The very best of luck to those now seeking work ... x
So how long before Southampton start asking GA to pop in more often.
@@flybobbie1449 It already is... also taking again Training Flights
The economic bubble was always going to pop. A lot more pain on the horizon. If there's one thing we learn from history is that no one learns from history.
I remember when my dad took Flybe to Birmingham from Amsterdam
I really like this guy. I have 3 friends that are airline pilots, all great guys.
As always, extremely informative! Thanks! Hope you are feeling well again.
Thank you for being such a kind person Petter ❤
My hard goes out to the crews and families that stands without jobs now. Hope the best for you. In this situation. Kind regards.
So much encouragement and nonselfish words from you Peter. Truly an amazing person.
"The pound has been dropping like a stone" is that a weight joke?
Lots of weird weight units the Brits use :-)
A heavy joke, not to take lightly in such dark times. If we go on with this, we might get a pounding, by someone, like a Penny.
@@zapfanzapfan A nice mix of imperial and metric in everything. Excellent.
Pound is what money is called in the UK. Like in the US, it is called Dollar.
Nuts In Puss I know, and they have a measurement of weight called Stone which is 14 lbs. Also, the £ to $ conversion is not 1:1
I will not panic and continu flying. Corona or not. I will travel to different places in the world, but refuse to panic. I will miss Flybe at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport. I filmed and photographed them many times. I also wish the employees all the best.
I’m so sorry to hear :( hope the Flybe employees find work soon!
When BMI Regional went bust, Loganair took some of their routes and aircraft.
According to BBC Loganair are picking up 16 routes.
Stobart Air will pick up the rest.
Maybe Loganair is the new Flybe? Would be nice for them to take up some of Flybe's aircraft on board with the routes :)
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Very kind of you the way you addressed these poor people. Well done sir.
Thank you for the great video, really appreciate it. But a quick note: as, far as I know APD (Air Passenger Duty) is NOT an environmental tax at all... In the sense that the money just goes to general use, as far as I know. The Government can spend it where it sees fit and it is not ring-fenced for any environmentally-beneficial uses.
Correct in that it is not spent on green jobs-- nor on mitigating the Carbon effects of the flight.
Wrong in that every increase in price discourages some customers. Taxing aviation is therefore a market intervention which could have green effects.
Even if the airport tax was not originally for that reason, removing it now is sending the wrong signals to the market, as the environmental groups correctly said.
The monetarists want Carbon-pricing and Carbon taxes to be the only form of control. Others want regulation as well.
Thanks for the information sad to hear.
They are not the only airlines having problems unfortunately.
No, they are not the last to go unfortunately
@@MentourPilot Hi one of the bigger companies in Sweden SAS is dismissing staff now because of the virus no one dares to fly that much unfortunately.
The aviation industry is an incredibly complicated workplace and there are many companies involved.
Really sad about the Flybe flight crews and ground staff, hope you get jobs soon. My heart goes out to you guys 😭🤗♥️ truly awesome staff!!!
This is truly sad. Nice that Mentour Pilot shows sensitivity to the people impacted. I imagine they loved their work.
He is a veteran pilot and wife formerly had a job like that...
Clearly these businesses are being run on a knife edge, without and financial buffer for the unexpected. Sure prudent management should have contingency plans and financial resilience against an incident that is only a few weeks old. The problem is that they are in debt up to the max, and as soon as the unexpected occurs, they go broke. Are not the executive team there to plan for the unexpected or do the get their big salaries for running something that just ticks over if nothing changes and if the get a suprise the run for the administrators to sort it out.
What skills are they being paid actally for?
I liked Flybe, same way as i liked Monarch. Basic but functional. Sad to see these smaller airlines going down.Hope everyone finds new employment quickly.
O'Leary must be so happy about this sad news, although I can't imagine with (not) his aircrafts configuration of 189 seats to take some of Flybe routes...
I work at Aircraft Services. Today, 13th March, has been my first shift back after a holiday during which the news about Flybe came out. There has been talk of redundancies in work today. Losing Thomas Cook, then Flybe jet ops and now flybe altogether the number of daily flights have dropped to the point that management feels we cannot employ as much staff any more.
Thanks Petter, last week I was a first officer on the Dash and now out of a job- aviation can be brutal. Hopefully things pick up soon :)
I've been a frequent flyer with Flybe for nearly 10 years, and this is terrible news and I wish all the best the the incredible crew and their families. Good to hear however that LoganAir are picking up some of their key routes.
Disagree on Brexit - there has been no impact whatsoever, Flybe were always very cheap and a couple of quid on a fare to compensate for increased fuel costs wouldn't have been a factor. That's if you even believe fuel has gone up. As a driver in the UK, petrol is 116p per litre, in August 2016 it was 111p per litre, in 2011 it was up to 140p per litre! And at short periods it has actually dropped below one pound per litre since Brexit. Now I assume the oil price dictates aviation fuel in the same way it does petrol. So no, not a factor.
The problem is they expanded too quick, hedged their bets on more passengers, spent over a billion on new jets (which weren't compatible with the airports they served), and they didn't grow with their investment. Flybe operated to a very niche market, ie those who didn't live near a medium to large airport. The structure and misguided ambition of the company screwed them, not Brexit.
This is kinda sad. I really enjoyed flying with them on those short city hop flights. RIP Flybe.
I've been expecting you Mr Bond.
This is devastating :( Was a great company, great staff, and a boon to be honest for Exeter...
Thanks for such a great overview of the UK domestic flight market & the demise of Flybe
We have a similar problem in the U.S., where many smaller towns lack commercial connections to the outside, particularly by air. Businesses are reluctant to locate there, viewing the place as almost at the end of the world. The problem is still worse for towns that lack rail lines or an Interstate nearby. Rail allows raw materials to be brought in cheaply. The Interstate makes shipping finished products out easier.
If you want to see the result. Look at a satellite map of the U.S. at night. Big cities are huge blotches of light. They're connected by strings of smaller lights that are the towns that are doing well because they're located on an Interstate. Elsewhere, there's a lot of dark areas.
Where I live is doing quite well. A rail line paralleling an Interstate makes it great for industry. The local airport, with 5200 ft. and a 4000 ft runways, can handle corporate jets. The result are businesses that attract other business, as well as cultural amenities and numerous retail stores. That's aided by having the largest university in the state.
Those issues weren't helped by the loss of jobs to China. Less cost-effective factories in small towns were the first to go. The supply issues created by the coronavirus may change that though. It's better to have a supply chain that's 40 miles up a two-lane road that one that extends to a corrupt dictatorship halfway around the world.
Sad to hear, nice airline and hopefully all routes will be taken over by other and that staff find other job. Great that you show concern for others Mr Pilot!
Yes this is VERY SAD!. I can relate!, I was 21 years old and was working in the last few years of the Great Pioneers of Aviation--> PAN AM. We loved Pan Am, but the Unions destroyed them. Love you all in this forum! This is a great source of Valid, Professional, Accurate Information and we love you all for it!!!♥️♥️♥️👍👍👍
Oh the optimism. As of February 2021, the situation is sadly still really bad.
I agree with Jon below. The fluctuating pound didn't have that much of an effect. Flybe flew some very profitable routes with will covered by a very small airline called Eastern. Two main issues, the air passenger duty tax is effectively paid twice because most of its flights were taking off and landing within UK (airports). This meant it spent millions more on this tax than other airlines. Secondly, was its aggressive expansion plan about the 5-10yrs ago. They leased more costly embraer aircraft which they shouldn't have done. The lasts 3 years flybe have been trying to ditch their commitment to those expensive leases to save money returning to the back bone aircraft (dash Q400).
The pound is rising against the euro. The pound is down this year about 1% to the US dollar. However the price of oil is down 30% in 2020. FlyBe's demise has nothing to do with Brexit no matter how much you euro's try to claim it is.
In fact a British Government rescue could have been more likely if it were not for EU Regs on these matters...
Did you not listen? Flybe was in trouble last year. Sterling is down a long way, and the drop in oil price is really recent.
Flybe had perfected the art of annoying the stupid customer who didn't read or ignored the cabin baggage size rules by charging £50 to load oversize cabin baggage at boarding. Right in terms of the deal but terrible optics. Every time I flew with them someone was delayed by the bag check. Also, the management from pre-rescue were retained and they had expanded on the back of low interest rates and had a bewildering range of flights. I hope that someone fills the gap and the staff can be found new jobs, I always enjoyed flying with them.
Exactly right. Flying out of Southampton early in the morning they would employ one person to stand by the entrance to security to measure every wheelie bag, and one more to "guide" passengers to the check in desks (which were all only for Flybe anyway). If you were lucky there were 2 people checking you in. All while the self service check in machines they had bought sat idle (apparently fell foul of some EU regulation).
I feel so sorry for the staff. Although I hope you're right with your views with Covid19 not having a prolonged effect on the industry, I share a different view. I think we're going to see prolonged effects and a negative effect on economies. I hope your view is the one that prevails!
As a Microbiologist I feel certain that 19-nCoV is going to be a far worse problem than the general Public are aware of. These (relatively) compact single strand RNA viruses undergo rapid host adaptation, and we should expect a number of genetically distinct, highly host-optimised lineages to emerge as the virus moves into "new" (for it) human populations. This alone will complicate vaccine development, and should 19-nCoV follow the trends seen in other SS RNA viruses (typically Influenza) then we may see recombination / antigenic re-assortment occurring, which will further limit vaccine efficacy. Then, there's the problem that the Coronaviridae (and Rhinoviridae) are not particularly immunogenic - which is why there's no effective vaccine for the Common Cold. Combine this with current evidence that incubation periods may be highly variable, re-infection has occurred (sometimes with fatal outcome), and there are asymptomatic "super-spreaders" already known to exist, and the outcome (for us) may not be quite as rosy as the popular press seem to think.
Thanks for informative video.. Airline business is tough business.
Congrats @MentourPilot for the 5th anniversary of the channel.
Gulf War in 1990 - 91, SARS in 2003, volcanic eruptions in Iceland in 2010 and the coronavirus in 2020...almost every 10 years something very serious & unpleasant hits airline industry with heavy damage... I experienced personally all of them except the last one...I really wish Flybe staff will be employed soon by other companies and at the same time I wish all the airlines which are suffering hugely in this period will survive this enormous crisis.
1:20 started as Jersey European Airways not Jersey International Airways
Very sad. I wish the staff well and hope they have a brighter future real soon.
I think bad management has a lot to do with it. We used to regularly use the excellent Flybe service from Exeter to Norwich to visit our son. Never were the flights more than half full. Why they chose to use an Embraer 195 instead of something smaller and more economical that they could run full up and charge a realistic fare I have no idea. The fares were ridiculously cheap because there was insufficient demand and they couldn't sell all the seats. It was literally half the cost of getting the train. A fifty or sixty seat plane would be profitable on this route.
This is so sad. The one and only airline that kept all the smaller islands together. How many islanders rely on FlyBe to commute to work?
The Virgin rescue was a smokescreen in order to gain Heathrow slots, they effectively let this airline bleed to death, with no interest whatsoever in saving this ailing carrier. Since the 1980's we have lost numerous carriers like Dan Air/British Air Ferries/ British Caledonian/British Midland/Euroair/Air UK/Brymon/Air Europe/Monarch/Thomas cook/Excalibur airlines/European Air Charter/British World Airlines/and Britannia Airways, I'm sure there are one or two I have missed ? But it's the nature of the beast unfortunately. Personally I'd rather see the demise of the likes of Ryanair and Easyjet, they have destroyed the concept of flying.
That's not the most accurate of listings. Some of those went backrupt and ceased operations, some of them were simply re-branded and live on today.
Britannia never went anywhere. They had been part of the Thomson group for decades and simply re-branded to Thomsonfly, then to Thomson Airways when they merged with First Choice. Re-branded again to TUI Airways today.
The same staff, fleet and base in Luton.
AirUK also lives on. KLM had a share in the company for years, then bought a majority share and re-branded it to KLM UK, before merging it into the overall KLM Cityhopper brand.
Neither had gone into administration or any kind of financial rescue.
@@BrySkye yes I know, but to have our once famous brand Britannia/Thomson holidays in the hands of a nation who inflicted untold misery on our people during two world wars really epitomises our lack of control of our industries. And for what it's worth, air UK is now Dutch.
Your nostalgia is rather misplaced, albeit revealing.
Thomson Holidays was never 'British' either. It was formed when a Canadian conglomerate (Thomson) bought and merged several companies, including Britannia, back in the 60's just after the airline was founded.
And I did mention Air UK became KLM UK then KLM Cityhopper. I'm well aware where KLM is from.
So what? The modern world is an international one and it affects everyone. British Airways effectively owns Spains national flag carrier these days (Though who knows what legal wrangling is going to be required in that regard soon).
Speaking of, and changing tact, what ended the British Midland International brand?
IAG buying it *from* Lufthansa, just so British Airways could get those Heathrow slots (or rather make sure Virgin couldn't get them). We took back control to absorb it into BA, and sell off the two UK Regional divisions to die.
I have some very good personal memories with Britannia, and I miss its brand and especially livery, but those are ultimately trivial details compared to a service still being provided and people still being employed.
Putting re-branding of what are ultimately very successful airlines, part of the reason they were bought, into the same group as failed or failing ones is misleading, just as the origin nation of the parent company is irrelevant.
Nostalgia is not a bad thing. Although looking backwards usually makes one overestimate the great things. National unity, pride in ones nation and culture. And forget the the bad things like WWI and WWII. I realize that we are bombarded from every angle with positive propaganda that the world of business is now international. But that usually is only great for a small number of people who don’t care about anyone except their own. Brexit is a reversal. I’m American and glad to see it. The spreading virus could be viewed as a negative, or is being used to consolidate gains and clamp down on international control.
WHO (pun intended), in their right mind, thinks that the UN should be the coordinator of responses to pandemics like this? I suggest only those who personally benefit financially. Your milage may vary.
Dramatic chair turn is dramatic. 😉
Flybe was a very nice airlines ! .... Bad news .... Btw love your content Mentour pilot 🤗
killer spree did you ever try and take hand luggage with you on their flights?
few friends booked flights for next week just at the beginning of this week. They knew about some troubles with flybe, but no one expected it to happen within those 10 days between booking and takeoff :(
You're such a good person mentour* aviation man.
that airline treated its customers with utter disdain and were always late, the new airline, from my first experience just under a month ago is immeasurably better than the old airline
Flybe's fares were too expensive and the routes not flown frequently enough for me. I tried to fly to Shetland from Orkney - 1 flight per day at the time , so an overnight was needed to attend a 2 hour job. I took the ferry - got in early morning and away again at 3pm. Much lower cost and no hotel costs. As for Passenger Tax - please explain how taxation will save the planet ( which isnt in danger anyway)
well, a business can only fly as often as they have demand.
if they fly every hour, but only fill 40% of their seats, it won't be profitable.
but if the fly once a day, but are able to fill up every seat, thats profitable.
doesn't mean that those flight make sense for you personally.
The routes, gates and times are the real value of the airline. This is one way to shed the less profitable routes. I followed the original Frontier Airlines now owned by Republic a decade ago. This is sad as less used airports will see ticket prices increase substantially.
Captain, another corona virus update would be welcome. What is the overall buzz in the industry now?Are flight schedules getting trimmed? What does the drop in passangers look like to date? Do other airlines in Europe seem to be in trouble? Its a sad time.
I flew them from RAF Valley, Anglesey Cardiff for £14. The put me by the over-wing exit because I told them Petter told me how to operate it. Shame, because they were a great Airline.
To reduce workload, I suggest just making an "Failed airline of the month" forum section, rather than a dedicated one for Flybe.
Good luck to all people affected
If the train system in the UK worked people wouldn’t have to fly from Southhampton to Manchester in the first place
I don't know much about the train system in the UK. But from looking at a map of GB, this country really would be perfect for a high speed train line from the north to the south.
Hi petter , yes very sad , all these poor people have lost their jobs ,
Flew on a few Shorts 360s in the day to and from the middle of Illinois. Weirdly charming. Sorry to see Flybe go...
I did too (from SPI)... the square-looking back end always seemed to bring a mental picture of a skydiving plane or similar. Not being pressurized was really bad on my ears ..wow!
Very sad. As has been said, hopefully some of the staff can find jobs quickly. The contraction of the industry due to the Cronovirus could not have come at a worse time for those guys. Back in the early 80s I was working for a ground handling agency and we handled the ‘ancestor’ of Flybe, Jersey European Airways (JEA)) At the time they were operating EMB110s, Shorts 330 and 360, and DH Twin Otters. At the point where I moved into a different area of aviation, JEA were introducing the Fokker F27 into their fleet.
It may help the other smaller companies like Eastern and Logan survive the downturn better. APD should be disposed of as this is simply a tax on the consumer and an unfair levy on small local airlines
Can you make a video about being a pilot process? Like do you have a say to which aircraft you want to fly? How do they train you and according to what?
Hi Mentour, slightly off topic perhaps. When are you going to set up your own company to train the future pilots?
I flew with them when they were Jersey European.
I'm sure O'Leary feels great today
Sad to see FlyBe go under. At some point I relocated and went from almost exclusively flying Ryanair to having to fly FlyBe or big boys like Lufthansa because Stansted or other Ryanair hubs were too far from where I lived. FlyBe was absolutely fantastic, I loved them, compared to Ryanair it was night and day.
I haven’t watched all your videos so l am not sure if this question has been covered. What is the rate of cabin air changes? What is the heating arrangement? Where dose the fresh air come from? Are air filters used if so what is the change rate? Is humidity a problem? I have so many questions about air quality in the cabin and how it is manage. Is this something that you could explain? Many thanks, Paul
Flew them once from AMS to LCY when my Cityjet flight got cancelled and got rebooked on them. It was showing that they were struggling. Service and everything was just sub par compared to CJ for example. Unfortunate, especially for their people.
Hi! I have a question or suggestion for a video. I was on a a320 flight where the "barking sound" was heard for the entire flight of almost 2h. As i understand this is a measure to maintaine hydraulic pressure, indicating some kind of fault. How do you know which kind of failures you can still fly with? And what kind of problems with the aircraft are you allowed to still fly with?
Short answer: it's in the airplane manual
MOSEL manual, that is one of the operational manual set.
AIUI the barking sound indicates an imbalance in pressure between the hydraulic systems; this is perfectly normal during startup when only one engine is running. Maybe one of the hydraulic pumps was bad on your plane?
@@CoolerQ yes, i guess that is what happened. But i think it would be interesting with a video about kind of which problems you can fly with inclouding examples of it.
I have much been hear from Flybe, and find it very sad, that they now are bankrupt. But manny airlines going for...
Like Aero Pero, Air Holland, Thomas Cook, and many more.
It is allso that risk, that you have, if you have a small airliner.
BTW... You re a very good potcast maker, Mentour👮✈
So many comments already yet nobody mentions the word "train".
Since FlyBe was focusing on domestic flights, perhaps it's a sign that people move their short travel to trains.
Well that would be fantastic ! Brilliant idea, just one problem I can forsee....COST ! from Maidstone Kent to Liverpool was over £200 single with 5 train changes, the air fare via Amsterdam was £85 with one change, and was two hours quicker, it's been highlighted on here in a video. Folk won't switch to trains until the train operating companies recognise that they have to seriously reduce fares.
I used to regularly fly with Flybe from Southampton to Manchester, which was one of their profitable routes, with them often able to charge up to £300 peak time return. Yet travelling by train took much longer, and cost the same.
feeling sad for all the flybe staff who will be again out hunting for jobs .sad...we in india saw kingfisher airlines and jet airways go out of business after a period of roaring success....remain cheerful you all will fly again soon....
Pre 80s people were not going here and there on aircraft on a wim . The current aircraft usage, and travel miles in all forms of transport has never been greater in human history. We are in uncharted territory. The last 8? civilizations have all been and gone.
Seperate fro this issue, I can not work out where all th exaust fumes go at 35000ft.
The rain brings the particals to the ground on to your cabbages.
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I have never liked cabbage, wonder if that is why?
WAY TO GO LOGAN AIR :-) Yes, they might not be able to support all the routes, however, something is better than 0.
Its a sign the economy is slowing. Recession in the next year or two is terrible will sadly affect the aviation inudstry
The word is, that the UK Govt were poised to help, but discovered that virtually all Flybe's assets had been mortgaged, leaving no collateral for a loan. Don't know whether this happened before or after the Virgin takeover! This happened too soon after the Jan threat of closure to be caused by the coronavirus. I don't suppose the rumour that Virgin saw the chance to get Flybe's Heathrow slots on the cheap had any relevance?
this is so so sad :'(
Its very sad, i was due to fly them from Southampton to Manchester in May but i think i lost my money.
If you paid with a credit card, you can claim through that.
Great western railway were offering free train tickets today, I dont know how long the offer stands for.
Mark Jones Always pay with a credit card everything that relates to traveling. If you can’t get a credit card from your bank then look for alternatives like Bunq Travel Card or similar. It is a MasterCard credit card without the credit.
@@verttikoo2052 The only snag with credit card is the extra charge, most people want to fly cheap as possible so i used debit card.
Mark Jones That is the beauty of the Bunq Travel Card. I pay 7,99€ per month and I have 3 cards from that bank. The Travel card that is MasterCard Credit, then I have MasterCard Debit that I use for daily shopping 🛍 and then I have virtual MasterCard Debit that I use for shopping online and for subscriptions. I can have one more card with the same monthly fee, but I don’t need it. (That could be a card for a shared account for example.) I don’t have other fees and I have ApplePay with all of these except the virtual card that I haven’t connected to it. I have total control over these cards. I can change PIN number and ICV number in seconds from the APP. I have several accounts that I can create as I want. 7,99€ per month for that is not bad. They are a Dutch bank and they are covered by the ECB. I have been super happy with them. Everything is through the APP. Check them. I have been super happy. They have a MasterCard Credit that doubles the warranty. So if you buy something like electronics and you have one years warranty then if you buy with it it will be doubled to 2. Very clever. /end of add 🙄 Never pay anything travel related in cash or with a debit card. That is the main message. Shop around there is options. There is a rule that you should change bank, insurance, electric company and mobile operator every two years because that is how you get better deals and that keeps the companies on their toes. You just say that I got this offer so is there something that you can do to keep me as a customer? Then you select the better one.
What happened during the Icelandic volcano crisis after the fall in passenger numbers? Did governments step in and subsidize the companies or was air travel just in a better state back then?
@Stephen Hill what was the financial fallout like, though?
Gutted. As I was when Monarch and Thomas Cook went the same way. Heart goes out to all involved. Personally I think the government should have put their hand in their pocket and helped out. Stop handing out millions to foreign aid and look after our own interests first, after all Flybe were providing largely a service for our business men and work force flying around the U.K. and near continent. As their logo said quicker than road or rail. They will be surely missed, cannot imagine what it will be like without them.🇬🇧
It wouldn’t surprise me if stobart air take the employees from Flybe but also virgin Atlantic might also employ some since those two airlines founded connect airways who owned flybe
Stobart group is in deep doodoo too. They might not have the balls for that kind of thing.....
Cant see Virgin taking many. Their flights have been cut for Coronavirus. Flybe had different aircraft which will need new extensive training regime.
I can’t imagine a regional who is not a contract carrier being profitable. Any time you start making money the big guys can jump in with predatory pricing using their own leased aircraft. In the US as long as the parent does well, their contract carriers will do well. The contract carriers/regionals pay much lower salaries than the Big Boys which is incentive enough to keep those Big Boys from operating regional aircraft.
I wish the best of luck to now laid off employees from Fly Be’s shutdown. The uncertainty must have been hell. I hope you all find higher paying jobs with other airlines