I would honestly put A Link Between Worlds in useless tier. He's not cooperating with Yuga, Yuga just straight up possesses him and suppresses his will. It's basically the only time in the entire series where he gets put under somebodies boot and stays there.
@@Aichi1138 It's possible he was still in his mindless state from the botched resurrection from the Oracle games. I doubt they were thinking about that, but it's still a fun idea.
@browncow5210 maybe but I'm trying to give Yuga credit here. Dude does his homework more than pretty much any other villain in the series, frail body strong mind Do you think he wants to risk loosing himself when matched against even botched resurrection ganon's will?
I kind of have a theory that Yuga got overtook by Ganon's Hatred in the process, Sooga told in Age of Calamity that Ganon is not for Mortals to controll, Astor got Consumed by Ganon, so the same might be the case for Yuga
Yeah, just because nobody seems to KNOW about the Triforce in the BotW/TotK era doesn’t mean it ain’t there. We don’t know WHY Zelda both HAS the complete Triforce AND doesn’t know that she does, but it seems some previous hero or princess made a VERY interesting wish on it…
The Triforce splitting in OOT isn't because Ganon's heart isn't pure. It because it isn't balanced between Power, Wisdom and Courage. His only focus is power so he gets only power
@@Leeloo-Foxx lol.yes there obviously is.constantly fighting against deadly foes,going against all the people in the world,fear of loosing life constantly,plotting against the rulers takes a lot of courage.put yourself in his shoes and ask if you would have the courage to still continue.
@@fabulousx9938 Even if he was also courageous, the fact remains that he had an unbalanced heart which forced the remaining 2 pieces he outright didn't care about to go to whoever was most worthy of them.
What you neglect to mention is that calamity Ganon from botw was actually just a FRACTION of TotK Ganon's power bleeding through Rauru's waning seal. The powered up, super strong master sword you had in botw? Barely enough to scratch him. It had to literally be reforged in divine light for thousands upon thousands of years, becoming more powerful than it possibly ever has been. All that for one Ganon? That's a tier of his own.
@@wildfire9280 yeah. He does nothing with his power. He is disguised as the last member of Hyrule’s royal family, and he uses it to scare horses. What the hell? Did the thought of making Link a fugitive never cross his mind?
tbf tho, yes he has the name of ganon but it really just feels like a raw and mindless version of demise and the constant curse manifested into a raw conceptual form of malice. however i wouldn't exactly say the master sword in totk was uber powerful☠we still cant confidently say it was affected by the full force of the tri force due to it being a thing not mentioned, compared to OOT where ganon was vs two pieces of the tri force + the master sword + all the sages its not that impressive☠ and then going even further the ganon in TP was literally invincible other than his singular weak point, he effortlessly killed a sage, tanked a full powered master sword + link + zelda only to be killed by his connection with a presumed fallen minion. so ye, i wouldnt even but totk ganon close to those two.
13:30 To clarify, Ganondorf was able to transform into a dragon because he swallowed his Secret Stone. Secret Stones enhances one's own power by a lot by itself, but something else that is considered forbidden can be done which is swallowing the Secret Stone. When someone swallows their Secret Stone, you transform into a giant, ageless dragon that is extremely powerful, but you completely lose your senses. Zelda and Ganondorf both do this in the game but Zelda does it because, long story short, she was sent 1000 years into the past and the only way for her to reunite with Link in the present was to turn into the dragon (mainly to give him the powered up Master Sword). Ganondorf did it because he was so pissed at being unable to kill Link, he gave up his own humanity just so that his mindless dragon form has a shot of killing him.
It really makes your villain seem a bit stupid and desperate when his last resort ends up being ridiculously easy. It’s not like he was struggling to fight Link either.
It’s way over 1000 years, minimum time span between ToTK’s past story and present story is 50106 years as there had to be 10000 years after Ganondorf got sealed for the first calamity ganon to emerge, and then enough occurrences for it to become a known pattern for the Sheikah to build their war machines for. Then there’s the 100 years between BoTW’s calamity and the 6-8 years between BoTW and ToTK: - Ganondorf Sealed - 10000 years - Calamity 1 - 10000 years - Calamity 2 - 10000 years - Calamity 3 - 10000 years - Sheikah Calamity - 10000 years - BoTW Calamity - 100 years - BoTW - 6-8 years - ToTK The more calamity’s that occurred before the Sheikah one the better as it becomes more reasonable for them to develop their war machines in anticipation.
@@HungryWarden tbf, I doubt he thought link was going to have a dragon to ride up to him. He didn't see Zelda transform herself and all he knew was that the one weapon they had against him (the master sword) crumbled to him in his weakest form. Doubt he thought even this newer one would stand up to the strength of a dragon. And he did have first a army, then the beasts he made, then himself, then a powered up version of himself, and finally after all those are beat then he finally does the dragon move. So it really is a desperate hale marry after all other plans crumble.
@@Tilda_the_mage Im pretty sure it was mentioned, that the time spans before the shiekah calamita were shorter and that only between shiekah and botw it took 10000 years. The reasoning beeing, that he was beaten much harder in the shiekah calamity than ever before, so he was in a much weaker state after that than usual and then took extra time to gather power, to make sure he would be strong enough to easily beat the beasts and the guardians, that were his demise before. Heck he didnt just beat them, he had enough power built up, to split his power apart, so he control them, instead of just destroying them.
@@caremo98 it’s not mentioned anywhere in game, I’ve played through BoTW 8 times over the years. It’s just a moderately popular head canon that it the time between calamities increase after each one. Theres also no “much weaker state” about it. Calamity Ganon is the release of Ganondorf’s Gloom/Malice after a long period of build up. Each Calamity Ganon that bursts out from under Hyrule Castle is technically a different entity, a new super powerful phantom Ganon. Also, Calamity Ganon specifically held fire on coming out until the divine beasts were operational and a decent amount of Guardians were uncovered, then waited until the champions were away from their beasts to strike. Anybody can take control of a car if it’s parked on the side of a road, the engines is off, doors are unlocked and keys are in the ignition. There is 0 information in game that details the calamities before the Sheikah Calamity. As far as we know before that one, calamity Ganon just got destroyed by the Royal Family’s sealing power while the knights of Hyrule kept the beast distracted.
Twilight Princess Ganondorf is my favorite version of him. He is quite literally too angry to die. This is a Ganondorf who was never humbled by his defeat by the Hero Of Time in the 7 year time skip. This was a Ganondorf who was outsmarted by a mere forest brat, mere moments from when he was about to steal the triforce. His arrogant rage drives him through the whole game, trapped in the twilight realm feeding off the hatred of the Twili, using Zant as his pawn to open a link back to the light realm. Not to mention the amazing voice work, every single voice clip is just dripping with the same arrogant malice I talked about earlier, his scoffs of contempt for Link and Midna, the roaring laughter, and his screams of rage. The manga(yes there's a manga) just makes him even better, you see him interacting with Zelda in Hyrule Castle after his return, he's almost disturbingly calm for Ganondorf, sitting down to have tea with the princess. Then when Link appears he absolutely loses it. Saying and I quote "I will tear out your organs, crush your bones, and relish your lingering cries of pain!" as he brutally attacks the hero of twilight. More lines just further reinforce just how absolutely arrogant this Ganondorf is, he truly believes he's invincible, that the fact he wields the triforce of power means he can't lose, and the fact he's being beaten by Link again is something he can't comprehend.
For real. He also plays himself the self-made messiah when he mockingly assumes himself "chosen" to rule the world by his miraculous possession of the Triforce of Power enhancing his entitlement to rule the world as if it was his preordained destiny to do so.
Also his death is epic. Pieced by the Mastersword he still gets on his feet an insults the hero and even after the Triforce leaves him, he remains on his feet, standing tall. He was defeated but never sank to his knee.
Never played Twilight Princess. So in that game, Gandondorf is beaten before he got the Triforce of Power? Aka Link being sent 7 years into the future to be an adult? If so that would make Twilight Princess a sequel to a "bad ending" scenario for OOT correct?
@@Skycrusher Quite the opposite in fact, it's a _Good Ending_ due to Ganondorf never been able to attack Hyrule Castle and kill the king in his attempt to claim the Ocarina of Time in order to enter the Sacred Realm and claim the Triforce as he very much accomplishes in the Adult Timeline. In the Child Timeline (where Twilight Princess takes place) Link was able to warn Zelda and the King of Hyrule of Ganondorf's treachery, allowing the king to imprison him. The 6 Sages would then carry out his execution by stabbing him with the Sword of Execution only for the Triforce of Power (which he already possessed) to revive Ganondorf and force the Sages to send him to the Twilight Realm in a last ditch effort to prevent him from causing any harm.
Well, him having the Triforce of Power all of the sudden makes him think he has been chosen by the Gods to be the supreme ruler. Little did he know that the exact same Gods made sure to send a Twink with a Jesus Christ Level Exorcism Sword.
Actually no, having the Triforce makes you into Jesus Christ Allmighty himself technically. She struggled on many occations against an entity That can be harmed with anything while when he himself had the Full Potential Omnipotence in A Link to the Past not evem the Master can damage him unless you Upgrade it into the Golden Sword What I rather think is Zelda doing something similar to A Link between worlds when she created Light Arrows by using the LIGHT Part of the Morally Neutral Triforce
@@Chris-gx1ei The Triforce in BotW and TotK are different from the main timeline games, it’s a power born into the royal family that must be controlled by the owner, and Zelda is quite powerful once she manages it, also becoming the sage of time with it
@@Chris-gx1ei my theory is that wild era zelda thinks her sealing power/time power is the height of her power, and she doesn't know she can go above and beyond. In other games, the person who had the full triforce knew it existed and how to use it, whereas the workings of the triforce has been lost to time by the time botw/totk happens, so zelda wouldn't know how powerful she really is
@@Gaffivory thats just tinfoil theories, theres ZERO official confirmation on wether zelda gets her power from hylia, which mind you is the origin of all zeldas, or the triforce
we dont really know, in breath of the wild its stated to be the power of royal blood. we cant say its the tri force and instead just have to assume its ancient magic from the goddess hylia. tri force wouldn't just be in zelda and nowhere else, if the tri force was active ganon wouldn't of been seeking a secret stone he would of just gone for the tri force.
@@LAaronB10 the tri force wouldn't just seal away ganon☠️☠️☠️☠️ that's just cultivate magic of the royal line, you don't have to train to use the all powerful triforce ☠️☠️☠️
@@kingmcclawson apparently the BotW triforce works differently then the triforce in other games, because it was very clear: Zelda held up her hand. The Triforce glowed in her hand. Ganon was sealed in place. If it was just royal magic and had nothing to do with the power of the triforce, then the imagery would what, just be a lie? lol
@LAaronB10 yes☠️☠️☠️☠️ works differently from other games, which means it isn't the tri force. The tri force isn't mentioned, so why are you just assuming "ye looks like it, so it must be it?" Not called tri force Doesn't do anything the triforce does But it looks like the tri force So what just because it meets one factor You take it as true even though two other factors are against it? That's just illogical. Your also talking as if a royal family replicating an ancient symbol of power to prove they still have power is outlandish☠️
Way more menacing than having the power of the only royalty left in Hyrule and doing such horribly evil deeds such as… scaring horses or… getting rock people hooked on drugs. As someone who has a passion for good villains, it really hurts to see how much praise TotK Ganondorf gets for doing basically nothing with his abilities.
@@HungryWarden correction, he did NOT have zelda or her power, he used illusions to look like her. theres a MASSIVE difference there, for someone who claims to have a passion for good villains you sure dont pay all that much attention to how they go about it
@@HungryWarden I agree, Totk ganondorf is a bad guy for basic and uninteresting reason, conquer and power, its so boring, he is cool but i mean its so less that the characters of ganondorf in wind waker much more complex and poetic
@@lemarouflard2091 I absolutely agree that WW has by far the best iteration of the character while TotK Ganondorf's only virtue was that he had a really good boss battle. But to be fair the list is more about which one was the most menacing/competent, not about which one has the better character. If I'm being honest, I really think OoT and WW were the only games in which Ganondorf was actually good as a character.
8:08 it’s actually a pretty long time after ocarina of time because the hero of time the link in ocarina of time is dead by the time the events of twilight princess occur so it’s at least a generation after since twilight princess is a whole new link
The Full Triforce makes her almost Equal to Lord Jesus Christ Allmighty himself, how can you explain her struggle against an entity That can be harmed with sticks even if she has basically infinite Power?
The Full Triforce makes her almost Equal to Lord Jesus Christ Allmighty himself, how can you explain her struggle against an entity That can be harmed with sticks even if she has basically infinite Power?
Pigs represent greed and avarice in many asian cultures and traditions which is why Miyamoto originally designed him as such to represent his greed for the 2 Triforce pieces.
In his defense, most of if not all of pig Ganon's appearances happen in the timeline where he defeats the hero, having likely assumed his demon form to do so. (According to Hyrule Historia.) I'd assume he was at the peak of his evil and probably couldn't turn back at that point. Whereas in the child timeline of OoT, he never gets to assume that form until TP. Meanwhile in the adult timeline, he was sealed away, likely not having access to that form anymore even after freeing himself, hence why he doesn't use it in Windwaker.
This. Absolutely this, Zant is/was an usurper and not related to Midna or her family in an way. He was just a greedy petulant man who want to rule and the sub text later on implies he wanted Midna to basically be his slave with all that implies in regards to someone who is perfectly willing to abuse their authority and power.
If she has then it is not clearly the whole thing, how would she struggle against an entity that can be cut down with Chop Sticks if she has infinite power in form of an Omnipotent wish? I see it more like A Link between Worlds where she only used the Light of the Triforce, not the Triforce itself, to summon Light Arrows
@@markanthony7191 ye coz it aint the tri force😭 if the tri force was around that bum ah ganon in totk would of been seeking the literal all powerful tri force, not a secret stone. theres not a level of understanding in the tri force it just does what it does.
It's actually a shame there's not more backstory to Demise. He is way more badass than every of the Ganons combined. I mean, he basically killed almost every human being on earth and fought with the godess herself and injured her so bad that she had to give up her godly form and force her entity into a human.
Yeah he has a surprisingly boring backstory (wanting the triforce and being a hater for no reason) for being the villain responsible for probably every game lore-wise
@@angjer8382 Actually he does have a reason to hate the gods of Hyrule and that reason is that they built the reality that would eventually becomes Hyrule on top of the primordial chaos that used to be the home of the Demon Tribe.
@@angjer8382 I wouldn't call it boring per se. He has a reason to hate. Because he literally IS hate. There's good and evil in the world. The godesses are the good, he is the evil.
He's possibly referring to his _reincarnation_ in later games (eg: Tears of the Kingdom) thus confirming Daphnes's wish to kill Ganondorf only becoming partly true due to his reincarnation in the Era of the Wild.
@@javiervasquez625 BotW and TotK are in an unrelated timeline, though. No reincarnation happens in the timeline (the games Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks) after Daphnes makes this wish. Yes, I've heard of the convergence theory, but with one timeline having Hyrule flooded, the master sword and Triforce lost beneath the waves, and everyone moves on to a new hyrule... and the other timeline involving the extinction of the Gorons and Sheikah, Ganon making Death Mountain *his* home, corruption of the Zora, and a waning of Hyrule's magic power (as well as a growing population of spoonears and the expansion of it's borders... what good is convergence if 2/3 of the timelines are outright incompatible? (Granted, my personal theory is that botw and totk are in a seventh, unrelated timeline anyway, but I'll play by the common rules for the sake of arguement)
@@Okada_Caelun The Era of the Wild makes explicit _references_ to the Adult Timeline ranging from reintroducing the Rito and Korok from The Wind Waker, having locations and landmarks named after characters and locations from across the Adult Timeline, having the dyemaster Sayge been revealed as a reincarnation of Doc Bandam from The Wind Waker and even a small joke on Chancellor Cole from Spirit Tracks via a recipe book in Hyrule Castle's kitchen. It's clear from all these references that to Nintendo the Adult Timeline is just as much canon to the Era of the Wild as are the other 2 timelines for there to be so many continuity nods without any timeline connection whatsoever. With that in mind it's 100% logical to conclude the Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom is a reincarnation of the one from The Wind Waker should players choose to assume the Era of the Wild takes place in the Adult Timeline. Did you just counter the Unification Theory (i like to call it unification rather than convergence) by randomly spitting random theories of your own...? When and where is it ever stated that the Triforce and the Master Sword were _permanently_ *lost* beneath the waves? Last time we see the Triforce it flies upwards into the sky before splitting away and disappearing from view only for it to appear at the very end of the game as if implying it's very much still intact albeit in an undisclosed location (the Sacred Realm?). Add to that the story of A Link between Worlds which shows what happens to the ENTIRE ZELDA WORLD should the Triforce be destroyed and it is explicitly clear that the Triforce is still around after Daphnes made his wish. Same thing with the Master Sword as the last time we see it in the Adult Timeline it remains _intact_ stucked on Ganondorf's forehead without any sign of it been destroyed following the flooding of the old kingdom. All things considered, it's plausible that after many thousands of years passed by the sea which originally flooded the original Hyrule slowly _eroded_ and dried away allowing the people of Tetra's Hyrule to eventually move back to the original Hyrule where the Master Sword still remained and the Zonai would one day arrive at in order to kickstart the Era of the Wild. Regarding the Gorons and the Sheikah becoming "extinct"... What? Just because we don't _see_ them appear throughout a specific timeline shouldn't be seen as evidence for their extinction when no dialogue or piece of information points in such a direction especially when the franchise has shown the tendency of ignoring certain characters and races from some games only to randomly bring them back in other ones (Gorons in the Oracle games). I don't see the argument in regards to Ganon using Death Mountain as his lair in the original The Legend of Zelda so i don't see what your point is and what is it you're trying to say so i don't know what to say in that regard. Finally, as to the "corruption" of the Zora, just because we see an enemy variant called Zora shouldn't be reason to assume they're the SAME RACE when Oracle of Ages proves they're seperate races with nothing to do with one another. Just because we have "spooneared" Hylians doesn't mean the timelines couldn't have unified into one so i just don't agree with the final point you brought up. ¿Why a seventh timeline? How many "side timelines" can there be aside from the original three and the (supposedly) fourth timeline where the events of the Wild duology take place?
@@javiervasquez625 I'm only going to respond to three of your questions, simply because I don't think we'd come to an agreement. First, things like the reference to Cole are inconsequential. With how long it would have been between games there's no way it's the same person, so it's the same situation as Link and Zelda having the same names as previous versions. Second, I'm not counting the Oracle games because they don't take place in Hyrule. It's even arguable that they're in the same dimension, considering how Link gets there. So the presence of Gorons and Zora in both of those games doesn't prove much for what happened to them in Hyrule. Third, as for "Seventh Timeline"... my own theory is largely that "Hyrule Historia isn't canon". So, being generous: 1 - Skyward Sword 2 - Minish cap/Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures 3 - OoT/MM/WW/Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks 4 - Triforce of the Gods (LttP in the US)/Oracles/Link's Awakening 5 - Twilight Princess 6 - Zelda 1/Zelda2 7 - BotW/TotK 8 - Link Between Worlds Being less generous, every game is in it's own separate timeline unless explicitly said in-game to have the same Link as a previous game. Because quite obviously Nintendo doesn't care about this timeline nonsense: otherwise TotK wouldn't have put Rito in the middle of the Imprisoning War (which is OoT in the time period), or have four different Ganon/dorfs face the Master Sword for the first time (OoT/TotG/Twilight/TotK) with three different origin stories for said sword (Skyward/TotG/TotK). So Nintendo gets to make their cute references to previous games and WE are the only ones concerned about how it affects canon. Which is also why I'd rather not get tied down in an argument, because ultimately I don't think it matters.
@@Okada_Caelun ¿Why would the reference to Cole be "inconsequential" when the recipe makes an obvious allusion to Cole's demonic nature...? Wether the book is referring to a "different" Chancellor Cole doesn't deny the fact it's still a reference to the same character either way making it redundant to dodge the obvious connection to Spirit Tracks and by extension the Adult Timeline. The instruction manuals for both Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages refer to the lands of Holodrum and Labrynna as _"far away lands from Hyrule"_ with Princess Zelda herself travelling to both realms on *foot,* confirming they exist in the same world as Hyrule's just like the Land of the Lokomos and Hytopia. ¿Why would you concoct such a specific timeline when Nintendo has continuously corroborated they're own official timeline over the course of 3 different sources? The Hyrule Historia, Hyrule Encyclopedia and official japanese timeline page all corroborate one another with the existence of 3 specific timelines which were created at the end of Ocarina of Time. All of the events depicted in the Wild duology take place at the very *end* of all 3 timelines as confirmed in the official japanese page meaning everything involving the reincarnated Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom happens thousands of years AFTER the events of all 3 timelines took place in the long forgotten past. It appears to me that a lot of your theories are mostly based on misinformation as revealed in the games's instruction manuals and supplementary sources such as the official japanese The Legend of Zelda page so i can understand why you would be so confused as to the established Lore to concieve of a seventh timeline despite of what the Lore states.
Funny thing about OoT Ganondorf is that he and OoT Zelda had the exact same idea: let Link do all the legwork. And it works! Also, that Ganondorf is the only one who canonically kills a Link in one timeline (because he's such a big deal that he split the timeline and gave us three times as many Zelda games), so I'd actually put him higher than Elite tier...
i'd argue every game has a fallen timeline, (zelda II's game over screen is literally a glimpse into said fallen timeline) we just see what happens in ocarina of time's fallen timeline
@@ferriwheel_meow yes and no, the fallen timeline is a parallel universe and not canon to the timeline, but yes ganon has to be the one to kill link in the final battle for the fallen timeline to happen (i think)
@@angjer8382 The Downfall Timeline is referenced all across the Era of the Wild's Hyrule meaning it's definetly canon to the timeline as a whole regardless of wether it's creation was due to a "what if" scenario where Ganon kills Link (somehow).
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the timeline split happened because the triforce couldn't decide who's wish to grant of all 3 people there (Zelda - Undo Gannondorfs damage to Hyrule, Link - Stop Gannondorf, Gannondorf - Win), so it gave up and granted all of them.
Adventure of Link's minions are actually split, the overworld ones are Ganon's forces while the dungeon ones are essentially guardians put there by the former king to protect the Triforce of Courage. Kinda puts Iron Knuckles in particular in a new light and makes Ganon even more useless when the King's minions are often better at enabling Ganon's revival than his. Edit: Also Iirc, the reason the Dark World exists is because Ganon made a wish to rule the world. The Triforce interpreted that as ruling the Sacred Realm, turning it into the Dark World, and he just rolled with it. And finally we never see Four Swords Adventures Ganon with the Triforce of Power. If anything the fact he was stealing energy from the land of Hyrule itself in the form of Force Gems, how much he utilizes Vaati's magic in his plans, and him lamenting that he didn't steal enough power from the Hyruleans kind of implies he doesn't and that his Ganon form is just due to his evil being revealed in harnessing the Dark World.
Look, he gone in links awakening, but I'll like to mention that the nightmare took form of Ganon over links ptsd from a link to the past. With that, it makes a link to the past Ganon feel all the more menacing.
Besides Ganondorf in ToTK having a health bar with a lot of extra inches, he also permanently removes your hearts and surprises you by pulling a reverse uno card on your perfect dodge strike. Oh, that and that fact he has the power of God, Anime and Suavemente on his side.
I really wish we could see another game where Vaati is the villain, only as the main villain without Ganon. I think he's a criminally underrated villain considering within the timeline he apparently predates Ganon, and honestly I think there's just too many games where Ganon is the main villain
When you really look at Four Swords Adventures, a lot of the magical backing was actually Vaati and his curses, knowledge of what makes up Hyrule's magic and powerset are pretty wide. You just always fought him at the beginning of his ascension, not long after breaking his seal, and under Ganon respectively. Heck the assault on Hyrule that made him infamous in-universe and his defeat are entirely backstory in his first appearance.
@@cassowary1817It helps that unlike Twilight Princess with Zant, Ganon isn't directly manipulating Vaati. He essentially just sets up his release and the takes advantage of Vaati causing chaos while he works behind the scenes.
He's not always the same Ganon as it is a different person in Fourswords Adventure and TotK. Also he tends to fight young adults most of the time, I think Wilds Link is in his 20s.
@@MysteriousTomJenkinsThere's also arguably some leeway in the age of Wind Waker Link. Like we see some adult characters that are the same height, and since the WW timeline would know of the Adult hero of time (probably more so than him as a child), WW Link could easily be 16-17.
I wish more people talked about Hyrule Warriors (Original, not Age of Calamity). That Ganondorf may be on par with Tears of the Kingdom or Twilight Princess Ganons in terms of power. He was literally broken into 4 pieces and scattered across Space and Time, and still managed to influence Hyrule by corrupting a magic user, Cia, who watched over time, and wasn't supposed to interfere, who had a crush on Link. He managed to manipulate Cia into releasing 3 of his soul fragments without her realizing what he was doing. And even with only 3/4 of his soul restored, he still managed to nearly defeat Cia and take the Triforce of Power from her until she used it to banish him. And even then, he still showed up with a summoned army to try and take it from the battlefield while Cia's and the Hyrulean Armies were fighting, also almost kidnapping Zelda. And once his final soul piece broke free, he did just summon both Zant and Ghirahim from across space and time to serve his new incarnation, and ultimately won, taking the entire Triforce, only finally being brought down afterwards due to his own arrogance about being untouchable at that point.
Yeah, ganon and shadow they don't screw around, ganon is the real meaning of evil, i mean, in oot his title his the king of evil, and for shadow is the ultimate life form, and shadow is a cool anti hero who show enemies who's boss, no one manipulates him he makes his own desicions, and straight solves the problem to keep the world safe for maria, while ganon he sometimes wins, there's a fallen hero timeline where he wins, hyrule warrior warriors he beats link and zelda and the finale was familiar with tears of the kingdom that took a lot of people and ganon and destroying everyone, and breath of the wild almost won, like yeah, they both are the best.
The cool thing about TP Ganondorf, WW Ganondorf, and OoT Ganondorf, is that they're all literally the same guy, just at different times in his life and from differing timelines. Not differing incarnations with the same name. Not long-corrupted monsters (for the most part) or forces of nature. Humans. The same human. Ganondorf Dragmire, son of Twinrova, King of the Gerudo. OoT Ganondorf is the literal OG (Original Ganondorf). Raw and arrogant. Extremely powerful, but far too overconfident for his own good. He thinks himself invincible, but that's not how things will work out for him, at least in most timelines... TP Ganondorf is the wounded animal. Bent but not broken, his initial plans foiled, he's given a second chance by "the whims of the gods" (actually by Zelda cocking things up the end of OoT and splitting the timeline...). Once again incredibly powerful, but he was burnt once already before he even got a chance to fully shine, and then was banished to twilight, so he adapts. He bides his time, seething in his rage, until he (thinks he) controls everything, at which point it's time for revenge... WW Ganondorf is The Ganondorf Who Won. He took the Triforce of Power and ruled Hyrule for nearly a decade before the courage of the Hero of Time, and his own hubris, led to the Triforce abandoning him and his downfall. He's had time to dwell on his failure, and he's lacking the power he gained in the past or in the other timeline (at least at first), so he lurks behind the scenes, manipulating events and not truly exposing himself until his moment of triumph is guaranteed. He's mellow, even thoughtful, because he realizes his earlier brashness is what caused him to lose. And he actually succeeds _again..._ only to be tripped up at the literal very last second by a side character who isn't even one of the Triforce's Chosen. One who should have been dead decades ago. And all he can do is laugh...before deciding to go out fighting...
@@dreamimgflowerd976 Not even needing to be a fan, just play the games or watch a playthrough or use Google. The games explain themselves pretty well.
7:28 Four Swords is a direct sequel to Minish Cap and a prequel to OoT, and Four Swords Adventure is a sequel to Twilight Princess, and the end of the Child Timeline.
Cool video jst wanted to say in TP zeldas body was in the throne room the whole time since zant invaded and her spirit thanks to the triforce of wisdom was in the tower thats why she vanishes after giving the triforce of wisdom to midna. And in Botw zelda had the full triforce which is how she managed to keep calamity ganon at bay for 100 years.
Counterpoint of BotW, Link can stop him immediately after jumping off the great Plateau and his second form is the easiest final boss in the series. He should be moved down one tier.
The video was not do much about "How hard Ganondorf is as a bossfight?" But much on "What did Ganon do?" And fot BotW, Calamity Ganon did lay the whole kingdom to waste for a century.
@@kamikosoulight3125to add even further into this, we find out in Totk calamity Ganon was but a fraction of Ganadorfs power that was gradually weakening the seal Raru put on him, and it was only after Link slayed calamity Ganon that the seal was finally opened. Which means despite being a lack luster boss, Calamity Ganon was a run off of ganons full power which alone put the kingdom of hyrule into ruin
@@VanguardEndeavorHowever, I would say that doesn’t work because Tears of the Kingdom Ganondorf is worthy of useless tier. Everything he does either serves as a gameplay mechanic, makes it easier to defeat him, or does nothing.
@@HungryWarden useless? He puts the 4 nations of the land outside of hyrule back under his control with coldgera, the gibdose queen, marble goma, and mucktorock. He nearly kills link while he was in a weakened state at the beginning of the game and causes him to have to get all of his strength back. Defeats the sages and Zelda in the prehistory of hyrule. And lastly covers hyrule once again in an army of monsters. It takes the combined efforts of link, Zelda, and the modern day sages to even stop him. Only for him to defeat the modern day sages (so defeating the sages a second time) and leaving Link and him to finish the duel they start at the start of said fight. He is no where near useless and most of the in lore things that he ends of doing is either defeating good guys or conquering the land. And even while he WAS still sealed. All of the events of breathe of the wild is still this same ganondorf. So that means he had the nations of hyrule under his control twice in this lore of the games.
He's pretty great in Twilight Princess but I'll never forgive that story for how he hijacked it. Zant seemed so threatening in his first appearances then after Ganondorf shows up he just turns into a clown until you kill him. It's a shame.
I kinda get it but on the other hand you have this surprise effect when finding out Zant is actually a loser. But he still manages to be extremely evil after Ganon gave his powers to him.
Yea, He had a brain through the previous portion of the game (or you were let to believe that), and it could have been handled similarly to how Agahnim was his alterego. The first time playing and seeing that was really disappointing experience. Like okay we are done with this cool designed character we played up now, lets just go back to Ganon right now, plot be damned.
The Zora didn't successfully convert from an aquatic peoples to an aviating peoples, adapting and surviving in a post-apocalyptic world beyond what any other race in the series has ever done just to be called "some bird things".
Considering OoT, TP, and WW are all supposed to have the same Ganon with different events unfolding, it's interesting that he just so happens to fall off in the timeline that DOESN'T have the soul of the hero. I'd figure it made him a little cocky since Toon Link isn't a true reincarnation of the hero. I think WW Ganon was banking on that fact and wasn't particularly concerned until he got triple teamed by two kids and the spirit of an old man.
He didn't underestimate the Hero of the Winds, he takes steps to ensure he's depowered and before the last fight he makes him fight a giant puppet and climb extremely high, making Link exhausted when he finally showed up. Ganon actively took that Link seriously around the end, even thinking he was the Hero of Time reborn though Ganon wouldn't really know about the curse so wouldn't really assume a new Link would show up or that Link doesn't exist anymore. He's only met one other before the hero of winds.
7:53 We actually don't know that. Given that the Triforce of Power faded away from his hand in Twilight Princess when he died, and that the Ganon is not known to have entered the Sacred Realm in Four Swords Adventures. 8:07, the events of Twilight Princess actually happen at the same time as the events of The Wind Waker. Just during a different timeline. It's also defeating Stallord, not Zant, that informs you of Ganon's status as the villain of this game. 11:40 Again, we don't know that. In fact, she could have very well owned the complete Triforce by that point.
Regarding the point about the Triforce of Power it is worth remembering that in A Link between Worlds "Ganon" was seemingly revealed as magically possessing the Triforce of Power while dead despite both A Link to the Past and the Oracle games showing the complete Triforce. With that in mind, it's possible Twilight Princess Ganondorf was also able to retain his Triforce of Power after dying, allowing his reincarnation from Four Swords Adventures to inherit it from his past self.
Bowser and Eggman are often overwhelmed by other villains and occasionally team up with the heroes because they are no match for new serious threats. This is NEVER the case with Ganon; most Zelda villains are under him, want to bring him back or need him to accomplish their goals, and those who do not are usually mediocre. One of the few real exceptions to this rule is the personification of evil/chaos in Termina: Majora itself. Putting Majora aside, there's few villains who can stand on their own two legs without Ganon's help.
SPOILERS OF ZELDA ECHOES OF WISDOM I would reduce ganon to trouble maker, since you only see him at the beginning of the game, the 4th boss is just an echo of him, not the real one, but ganon planed taking down link when he said that his presence would benefit him, even that he gets defeated, he placed the trident to open a rift to take down, if link didn't shot free zelda, null wins, or if the rift captures her, also null wins, and thanks to ganon helping null, hyrule didn't have their usual hero and only zelda saves everything, and null did so many dirty work to take down zelda, if the king didn't notice the rift and not pushed zelda, null wins, also another rift chasing zelda, if she get caught he would win as well, after echo ganon's defeat, null personally attacked zelda, and if it wasn't for link coming to save zelda again, null wins, then null ambushes zelda and creates an imposter zelda, and zelda fainted, if it wasn't for tri on teleporting zelda away, the imposter would kill zelda, and null wins, and finally imposter zelda get the triforce to wish to make the whole world into nothing, but the presence of zelda made the triforce seperate into 3, that was the closest so far, yeah, everything was lucky, but at least ganon is not worthless since he dealed with null and he took down link so he can't go to hyrule so null can mess with hyrule and almost took down zelda in so many ways, so yeah, Trouble Maker
Forgot to mention in totk how he literally soloed all the sages, Rauru and Zelda all wearing secret stones with no effort until Rauru pulled a sneaky on him to seal him away to which he went ”Whatever dude, I’ll wait it out idc” and then the first thing he does when he wakes up tens of thousands of years later as a mummy is to break the Master Sword into a hundred pieces without moving a muscle.
Majora’s mask he wasn’t present, but it was the in between Link being a child and growing up to become Adult Link to kill Ganon. The 5 stages of grief were caused by Ganon indirectly to have him become sealed once more.
Hot take: Swap WW and TP. Zant isn't just his bitch, Zant's the one who pulls off ALL of the villainous actions. Ganondorf gets mad, gets sealed, whispers into his jabroni ear, then waits to be manifested and possesses Zelda for a minute. He gets an epic battle, but his actual actions besides being asked to let go are minimal. Contrast with LttP, where at least the Wizard is him, so he's doing everything. WW on the other hand he personally oversees everything, and clearly has the power to end Link multiple times, along with taking a full on dragon-god to the ****ing face and his CLOTHES aren't even singed the next time you see him. I mean, c'mon.
I personally think Wind Waker’s Ganondorf is the one that came closest to succeeding, but that’s just me. Perhaps with he cycle broken by here being no Hero Spirit due to the Hero of Time leaving, it’s possible that Demise’s Curse is no longer influencing Ganondorf. He’s still an ambitious dick, but he’s able to reflect on what he did and ask “why?”
After beating Echoes I would place him near bottom. He really wasn't in it. Was a guy named Null. It created a a few Ganons though. Wasn't Ganon per say.
Ganondorf coming back out with midnas helmet is gonna be a thing im never gonna forgot, followed by one of the best and sickest duels of all zelda games
I agree with the video though. Wind Waker's Ganondorf is more chill. Like he's gone to therapy and really worked on himself (too bad he couldn't do it enough to just give up world domination). He's not gonna kill Link and Zelda, he's not even gonna go full pig mode, he just settles on a sword fight and gets a sword in the head. He's good but he ain't bringing his A game.
@@TwoPairSA In that Ganon's defense, he had zero idea that the king was A: Alive and B: There. He neutralized every threat he knew about, and if he got his wish, the Master Sword's little more than a paperweight.
@@TwoPairSAI wouldn't say WW Ganondorf is more "chill" necessarily, it's more that he's a tired old man who's gotten much wiser with his years. That said, he's still absolutely ruthless and destroyed an entire island in the blink of an eye and cursed an entire ocean.
Short Correction: The Triforce doesnt split because of "Unpure Heart" The Triforce is an Allmighty Force that is Morally Neutral and basically anyone can use it, though the Triforce only sees someone as a good ruler if they have a Balance of Faith within Courage, Power and Wisdom, Ganon thinks that Power is everything just like any other Villain basically and thus the Triforce saw him unworthy and split, leaving only the piece that resembles what he believes in the most, meaning if he really wants to reunite the Triforce again, then he has to work his ass of with finding the other bearers if he wants to reunite it, and damn, 7 years he waited, Ganon really has tons of patience. And Link is not actually stronger than Ganon, Link just has a fucking arsenal of Holy Weapons allowing him to chease him to death.
personally I find a very intelligent conniving villain that gets to the end of his rope and says screw it chooses to give up his very being just to screw over the hero’s is pretty terrifying, pure dedication till the very end of the game
...I mean. The 'demon' form of Ganondorf is actually just 'Ganon'. Who existed before Ganondorf did. I think every time Ganondorf has shown up it's been the same person, basically? Or at least the same person in the way that all the Links and Zeldas are the same person, the same spirit being reincarnated over and over. But yeah there is a difference between Ganon and Ganondorf. I'd argue that Ganon is 'he gone' in Zelda 2, since the only time he appears is if you get a game over. Granted, you are very likely to get a game over in that game, but still. His troops are causing trouble, but Ganon himself doesn't show up. A Link to the Past... I dunno. He does a lot of stuff but if he was essentially a god, taking out Link should have been easy. Heck, Link undoes everything that Ganon causes by touching the Triforce and making a wish, so why didn't Ganon just wish Link into non-existence? That's just kinda dumb and keeps him from being Elite in my book. Ocarina of Time... I'm pretty sure it wasn't because Ganondorf didn't have a pure heart that the Triforce scattered. It's because his Power, Wisdom, and Courage were out of balance, so he could not claim the entire Triforce so easily. As we see in Wind Waker, he is able to claim the other pieces of the Triforce from Zelda and Link so he can still get it, but it's easier if you're balanced. But yeah, easy elite tier, he took over Hyrule for 7 years, and was VERY persistent in his attempts to kill Link, what with kidnapping Zelda, fighting Link, trying to bring the tower down to kill both him and Zelda, and then fighting him again as Ganon... easy elite. Oracle... yeah that's about right. He's summoned as a mindless beast, has no power from the Triforce (I don't think Link does either, though) and is pretty easy to take down. Fun fact, the Link in the Oracle and Awakening games are the same Link as the one in A Link To The Past. But yeah he technically does show up and does SOMETHING but can't give him much credit for it. Wind Waker... This section just reeks of 'did not play the game and did not do the research'. Those 'weird bird things' are the Rito. The same species that shows up in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. The King's wish does not involve reviving Link and Zelda. They were just unconscious or temporarily out of action. And to be fair, why stomp them into the pavement when it seems like you're the only ones there and the more pressing matter is assembling the Triforce. For all we know, when they die, something might happen to their Triforce piece so that Ganondorf can't take it from their dead corpses and has to take it from them when they're alive? I'd still say he's Elite because he still escaped the flooded Hyrule to get to the Great Sea, when flooding Hyrule was supposed to keep him contained/trapped, and up until the part where you actually fight him you're just unable to do anything to him at all. Link gets BODIED by him, TWICE. And then I guess he's easier to fight since he no longer has his Triforce of Power. To be honest it was a good plan and was only foiled by the King of Hyrule apaprently being able to teleport or something. The fact that he's calmer and says he won't kill Link doesn't make him any less elite. ...Aren't Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks in the same timeline? Like, in Spirit Tracks it is stated that it happened after Link and the Pirates settled elsewhere, and you're even friends with the last one of the pirates that is still alive. "We're not ranking Demise" ...And why not? Aren't Ganon/Ganondorf is basically just Demise being reincarnated as Link and Zelda are? And if you're going to go with the 'well it doesn't count because Ganondorf is technically mortal'... Zelda is technically Hylia in mortal form, so doesn't that mean that there is actually no Zelda? I'd argue that A Link Between Worlds is either 'useless' or 'he gone', since he has nothing to do with it. Yuga is possessing him, Ganon does NOTHING. Breath of the Wild... I'd argue that no, he's not Elite here. He is held off by Zelda for a century despite Zelda having no triforce. You say 'You can see the corrupted castle but know you can't do anything about it yet'... but you can literally go there as soon as you're done with the tutorial area. It's not a recommended course of action, but it is something that you can do. Considering you can beat the game when Link is at his absolute weakest, I don't think it counts as elite at all. Tears of the Kingdom... the fact you don't get the dragon thing just shows that you didn't do your research again. And how is a giant fucking dragon not more threatening then human Ganondorf? Because he doesn't have an extended life bar?
In A Link to the Past Ganon had already wished on the Triforce, that's what turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World. He cannot make another wish, because he already made one.
All Links, Zeldas and Ganons aren't the same person, they are all separate people, with some versions appearing multiple times. We see in literally the second game in the series that there are two Zelda existing at the same time so that nixes Zelda always being the same person. It is just someone with the blood of the goddess, not THE Goddess. In Twilight Princess, the Hero of Twilight literally meets The Hero of Time who is a separate individual who has to teach Twilight some of his skills. Again, two Links existing in some capacity, different people. Ganon is usually the same person, typically being the same guy we fight in Ocarina of Time but there has been two other versions. The one from Fourswords is a new one, as is Tears of the Kingdom. We often see the OoT one but there are still separate Ganons besides him. And none of the iterations of these 3 ever retain memories from the last version. Twilight Princess Link didn't know Ganon or Zelda. If it was the same person with the same memories all the time then being reunited by presumably your wife in SS, probably girlfriend/wife in MC and best friend in OoT would probably warrant more interaction between the two but they're strangers because they are different people who don't know each other.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins Same SPIRIT, not same people. The second Zelda in the second game was not the Legendary Princess Zelda. Just another Princess called Zelda. Like, the very first game chronologically is Skyward Sword, and when you beat Demise, he basically curses them. Stating that an incarnation of his hatred, those with the Goddess' blood and Link's spirit will be trapped in a cycle of rebirth and conflict. Each Link has the same spirit, but they aren’t the same person. Each Zelda is not the same person, but have the blood of the Goddess. Each Ganon/Ganondorf… well that’s a bit of a different thing that they’re never entirely clear about. Ganon 'returns' many times, but whether he's actually killed depends on the game. In Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf isn’t killed, he simply gets sealed away. And there isn’t a Link around when he returns. We know this because the Ganondorf in Wind Waker is the same one as in Ocarina of Time. But it can be assumed that Ganon/Ganondorf has died and then been reborn in line with Demise's curse. And the Ganondorf in Tears of the Kingdom was basically a mummy when we first saw him so it’s probably safe to assume it’s one that we have seen before. Not to mention Urbosa does mention Ganondorf and what he did in Ofarina of Time, so it’s safe to assume it takes place after Ocarina of Time… and COULD be the same Ganondorf. I haven’t beaten Tears of the Kingdom so I don’t know all the details. The reason the Hero of Time teaches Twilight Link his moves may be a sign of kinship. He realises that Twilight Link is another incarnation of his spirit and thus shares his knowledge with someone placed under the same burden that he had. Same spirit, but not the same person.
“Because he doesn’t have a pure heart or some nonsense” It was explicitly explained that the attributes of power, wisdom and coursge were out of balance in his heart that the triforce split. Power remained in his hands as that was what he most represented- he did a lot of manipulative, shady bullshit to try and get what he wanted, and when that failed he tried to brute force things to go in his favor. Wisdom went to Zelda- she could come up with plans to do something about Ganondorf but she lacked the power or courage to do much of anything on her own. Link got Courage- he didn’t possess overwhelming power and the plan to take down Ganondorf wasn’t his own, but he had the courage to push his way through the trials and tribulations he had to go through.
Love that he's never in worthless tier. He's either taking over all of reality as we know it, simply up to something, or just straight up doesn't even exist but his presence even then is STILL felt cuz some other villain loves to pretend to be him. The mf is just the perfect villain, doesn't get any better in Zelda
In Zelda 2 ganondorf deserved to be in the useless tier because he has literally no involvement unless Link is dead. Canon though is that link wins which therefore means Ganon is never around.
I just have to say. I wish you had extrapolated a bit more about why ganondorf was so much calmer in wind waker. As a response to his failure in ocarina, he gained courage and wisdom to be worthy of the entire triforce. And that wisdom tempers him throughout the game. So while he is less ruthless, it is an act of correction from a prior error, and so that should be an increase not a decrease
"This Ganon is in a tier of his own" he says before immediately putting him in a tier with two other Ganons. I agree TotK Ganon is the inarguable best. TP is next, followed by OoT. I struggle to align with the logic that ALttP is on the same level as those three or that the three alone all belong in the same tier. But this was cool video nonetheless. Thank for putting this together.
I’m just asking, Windwaker was my first Zelda game and I played Twighlight Princess after, I legit first thought that Zant was Gannon wearing a mask at first Am I the only one who thought that?
Fun fact about Four Sword Adventures Ganon, he’s one of the only two instances where he’s a different character like Link and Zelda usually are, as he’s usually _always_ the same guy. The other instance is from TotK, which seemingly came before the Ganondorf present for most of the series. Ganondorf just happens to be the traditional name for Gerudo men. Ganondorf outright _dying_ in Twilight Princess’ll do that to ya, but FSA Ganon is more “unfortunate circumstance” than “pure malice”.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins timeline is wack, but Skyward Sword takes place in the distant past (Zora Ancestors), even showing the land Hyrule stands on dates back even further then that. It’s not out of reason that the founding of Hyrule in TotK was the _original_ founding of Hyrule, and it wasn’t founded in SS whatsoever. Evolution into new species takes a huge amount of time, and it’s possible that the huge amount of time between SS and MC had enough room for the TotK founding of Hyrule. Hyrule Castle’s design isn’t all that different from its iteration in TP and WW either.
Great tier list! Pretty much agree with all the placements except 2 and even then one of my changes would be debatable. I'd move Link Between Worlds down to worthless since Yuga basically subsumes Ganondorf's will and power at the end. And I'd be open to changing Breath of the Wild under how debatable Calamity Ganon being ACTUAL Ganon is or even how conscious it is of it's actions versus just acting on instinct. But I could easily be persuaded to keep it there. Tears of the Kingdom though is absolutely Elite Tier. Within Elite tier itself I think I would also put Link to the Past ever so slightly above Twilight Princess but still have both of them in the same tier. Ocarina Ganon basically pulled off everything he did without even having the full Triforce so... yeah. Gotta give it to him. (Begrudgingly though since I have some slight bias to LttP since it was my first LoZ game lol).
Cadence Of Hyrule's Ganon would go in Typical Bad Guy tier, I think. He isn't present for most of the game, but he is seen as a child Ganondorf in the Gerudo village. Instead, the main villain is Octavo, a bard who looks similar to Vaati. Octavo temporarily takes control of Hyrule by putting everyone in power to sleep in an attempt to create an army to face Ganon. Link, Zelda, and Cadence unravel his plans, and destroy the Golden Lute, that he got his power from to put everyone to sleep and create the main bosses of the game. So Octavo then goes forward in time to when Ganon has already seized control of Hyrule. Ganon defeats Octavo, and is the final boss of the game, but Link, Zelda, and Cadence use Triforce spotlights to bath him in divine light to destroy him.
I don't know if this counts as WW Ganondorf, because during the events of the game all he did was kidnap some girls and destroy an island. But his impact prior to the events of the game is probably the most massive, because Ganon's return was so dire the goddesses had no choice but to flood all of Hyrule, with very few people knowing of its existence. And I have to wonder what exactly that meant for the rest of the world, wouldn't it be catastrophic for all continents if the sea level rose enough to flood all of Hyrule? Are we to assume Hyrule was in a giant dome that was below sea level so it didn't affect the rest of the world? 60% of Netherlands is below sea level so it's not too farfetched, and Hyrule always has looked like its in a deep valley, but the land of Hyrule also could have sunk into the ground.
one correction. In orcarina of time. Ganon and link are equal in power at the end of the game. This is why the timeline branches off creating two from that point. (well three but only two matter for this conversation) 1 where link wins and 2 when link loses and the world is then flooded. The ganondorf in wind waker is the exact same one from Ocarina of time. The triforce of power making him live hundreds of years.
also the only thing ganon wanted in wind waker was for the land of hyrule to return. That was his goal for the flood to end and the great desert (his home) to return wind waker ganon is honestly the cloest thing to a good guy you will get out of the character.
I would honestly put A Link Between Worlds in useless tier. He's not cooperating with Yuga, Yuga just straight up possesses him and suppresses his will. It's basically the only time in the entire series where he gets put under somebodies boot and stays there.
Agreed, I have to believe in that particular instance Yuga revived only the body of Ganon and not the will/soul
@@Aichi1138 It's possible he was still in his mindless state from the botched resurrection from the Oracle games. I doubt they were thinking about that, but it's still a fun idea.
@browncow5210 maybe but I'm trying to give Yuga credit here. Dude does his homework more than pretty much any other villain in the series, frail body strong mind
Do you think he wants to risk loosing himself when matched against even botched resurrection ganon's will?
@@browncow5210 It would've been after Oracle Games so the Ganon Yuga revived was the mindless one we fought in that game
I kind of have a theory that Yuga got overtook by Ganon's Hatred in the process, Sooga told in Age of Calamity that Ganon is not for Mortals to controll, Astor got Consumed by Ganon, so the same might be the case for Yuga
11:40 "this little girl with no triforce power-"
_literally has the full triforce on her hand_
😂😂
yeah and she is not even little!
My thoughts exactly. Other than this tho.... good video
Besides that, she's the goddess Hylia reincarnated, even aside from the Triforce.
Yeah, just because nobody seems to KNOW about the Triforce in the BotW/TotK era doesn’t mean it ain’t there. We don’t know WHY Zelda both HAS the complete Triforce AND doesn’t know that she does, but it seems some previous hero or princess made a VERY interesting wish on it…
The Triforce splitting in OOT isn't because Ganon's heart isn't pure. It because it isn't balanced between Power, Wisdom and Courage. His only focus is power so he gets only power
Why doesn't he get courage too?
I mean he has to be pretty courageous to want to rule the whole world and take control of everyone
theres nothing courages about wanting to be a tyrant.
@@Leeloo-Foxx lol.yes there obviously is.constantly fighting against deadly foes,going against all the people in the world,fear of loosing life constantly,plotting against the rulers takes a lot of courage.put yourself in his shoes and ask if you would have the courage to still continue.
@@fabulousx9938If that courage comes from outwitting your enemy then it’s not really courage. He’s more cunning than courageous.
@@fabulousx9938 Even if he was also courageous, the fact remains that he had an unbalanced heart which forced the remaining 2 pieces he outright didn't care about to go to whoever was most worthy of them.
What you neglect to mention is that calamity Ganon from botw was actually just a FRACTION of TotK Ganon's power bleeding through Rauru's waning seal.
The powered up, super strong master sword you had in botw? Barely enough to scratch him. It had to literally be reforged in divine light for thousands upon thousands of years, becoming more powerful than it possibly ever has been.
All that for one Ganon? That's a tier of his own.
Tears of the Kingdom Ganondorf is worthy of useless tier.
@@HungryWarden Ironic, since all the buildup would put him in elite if only it went harder.
@@wildfire9280 yeah. He does nothing with his power. He is disguised as the last member of Hyrule’s royal family, and he uses it to scare horses. What the hell? Did the thought of making Link a fugitive never cross his mind?
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tbf tho, yes he has the name of ganon but it really just feels like a raw and mindless version of demise and the constant curse manifested into a raw conceptual form of malice. however i wouldn't exactly say the master sword in totk was uber powerful☠we still cant confidently say it was affected by the full force of the tri force due to it being a thing not mentioned, compared to OOT where ganon was vs two pieces of the tri force + the master sword + all the sages its not that impressive☠ and then going even further the ganon in TP was literally invincible other than his singular weak point, he effortlessly killed a sage, tanked a full powered master sword + link + zelda only to be killed by his connection with a presumed fallen minion. so ye, i wouldnt even but totk ganon close to those two.
13:30 To clarify, Ganondorf was able to transform into a dragon because he swallowed his Secret Stone. Secret Stones enhances one's own power by a lot by itself, but something else that is considered forbidden can be done which is swallowing the Secret Stone. When someone swallows their Secret Stone, you transform into a giant, ageless dragon that is extremely powerful, but you completely lose your senses. Zelda and Ganondorf both do this in the game but Zelda does it because, long story short, she was sent 1000 years into the past and the only way for her to reunite with Link in the present was to turn into the dragon (mainly to give him the powered up Master Sword). Ganondorf did it because he was so pissed at being unable to kill Link, he gave up his own humanity just so that his mindless dragon form has a shot of killing him.
It really makes your villain seem a bit stupid and desperate when his last resort ends up being ridiculously easy. It’s not like he was struggling to fight Link either.
It’s way over 1000 years, minimum time span between ToTK’s past story and present story is 50106 years as there had to be 10000 years after Ganondorf got sealed for the first calamity ganon to emerge, and then enough occurrences for it to become a known pattern for the Sheikah to build their war machines for. Then there’s the 100 years between BoTW’s calamity and the 6-8 years between BoTW and ToTK:
- Ganondorf Sealed
- 10000 years
- Calamity 1
- 10000 years
- Calamity 2
- 10000 years
- Calamity 3
- 10000 years
- Sheikah Calamity
- 10000 years
- BoTW Calamity
- 100 years
- BoTW
- 6-8 years
- ToTK
The more calamity’s that occurred before the Sheikah one the better as it becomes more reasonable for them to develop their war machines in anticipation.
@@HungryWarden tbf, I doubt he thought link was going to have a dragon to ride up to him. He didn't see Zelda transform herself and all he knew was that the one weapon they had against him (the master sword) crumbled to him in his weakest form. Doubt he thought even this newer one would stand up to the strength of a dragon.
And he did have first a army, then the beasts he made, then himself, then a powered up version of himself, and finally after all those are beat then he finally does the dragon move. So it really is a desperate hale marry after all other plans crumble.
@@Tilda_the_mage Im pretty sure it was mentioned, that the time spans before the shiekah calamita were shorter and that only between shiekah and botw it took 10000 years. The reasoning beeing, that he was beaten much harder in the shiekah calamity than ever before, so he was in a much weaker state after that than usual and then took extra time to gather power, to make sure he would be strong enough to easily beat the beasts and the guardians, that were his demise before. Heck he didnt just beat them, he had enough power built up, to split his power apart, so he control them, instead of just destroying them.
@@caremo98 it’s not mentioned anywhere in game, I’ve played through BoTW 8 times over the years. It’s just a moderately popular head canon that it the time between calamities increase after each one. Theres also no “much weaker state” about it. Calamity Ganon is the release of Ganondorf’s Gloom/Malice after a long period of build up. Each Calamity Ganon that bursts out from under Hyrule Castle is technically a different entity, a new super powerful phantom Ganon.
Also, Calamity Ganon specifically held fire on coming out until the divine beasts were operational and a decent amount of Guardians were uncovered, then waited until the champions were away from their beasts to strike. Anybody can take control of a car if it’s parked on the side of a road, the engines is off, doors are unlocked and keys are in the ignition.
There is 0 information in game that details the calamities before the Sheikah Calamity. As far as we know before that one, calamity Ganon just got destroyed by the Royal Family’s sealing power while the knights of Hyrule kept the beast distracted.
Twilight Princess Ganondorf is my favorite version of him. He is quite literally too angry to die. This is a Ganondorf who was never humbled by his defeat by the Hero Of Time in the 7 year time skip. This was a Ganondorf who was outsmarted by a mere forest brat, mere moments from when he was about to steal the triforce. His arrogant rage drives him through the whole game, trapped in the twilight realm feeding off the hatred of the Twili, using Zant as his pawn to open a link back to the light realm.
Not to mention the amazing voice work, every single voice clip is just dripping with the same arrogant malice I talked about earlier, his scoffs of contempt for Link and Midna, the roaring laughter, and his screams of rage.
The manga(yes there's a manga) just makes him even better, you see him interacting with Zelda in Hyrule Castle after his return, he's almost disturbingly calm for Ganondorf, sitting down to have tea with the princess. Then when Link appears he absolutely loses it. Saying and I quote "I will tear out your organs, crush your bones, and relish your lingering cries of pain!" as he brutally attacks the hero of twilight. More lines just further reinforce just how absolutely arrogant this Ganondorf is, he truly believes he's invincible, that the fact he wields the triforce of power means he can't lose, and the fact he's being beaten by Link again is something he can't comprehend.
For real. He also plays himself the self-made messiah when he mockingly assumes himself "chosen" to rule the world by his miraculous possession of the Triforce of Power enhancing his entitlement to rule the world as if it was his preordained destiny to do so.
Also his death is epic. Pieced by the Mastersword he still gets on his feet an insults the hero and even after the Triforce leaves him, he remains on his feet, standing tall. He was defeated but never sank to his knee.
Never played Twilight Princess. So in that game, Gandondorf is beaten before he got the Triforce of Power? Aka Link being sent 7 years into the future to be an adult? If so that would make Twilight Princess a sequel to a "bad ending" scenario for OOT correct?
@@Skycrusher Quite the opposite in fact, it's a _Good Ending_ due to Ganondorf never been able to attack Hyrule Castle and kill the king in his attempt to claim the Ocarina of Time in order to enter the Sacred Realm and claim the Triforce as he very much accomplishes in the Adult Timeline. In the Child Timeline (where Twilight Princess takes place) Link was able to warn Zelda and the King of Hyrule of Ganondorf's treachery, allowing the king to imprison him. The 6 Sages would then carry out his execution by stabbing him with the Sword of Execution only for the Triforce of Power (which he already possessed) to revive Ganondorf and force the Sages to send him to the Twilight Realm in a last ditch effort to prevent him from causing any harm.
Well, him having the Triforce of Power all of the sudden makes him think he has been chosen by the Gods to be the supreme ruler.
Little did he know that the exact same Gods made sure to send a Twink with a Jesus Christ Level Exorcism Sword.
11:39 “Little girl with no triforce power” *has the full power of the triforce*
Actually no, having the Triforce makes you into Jesus Christ Allmighty himself technically.
She struggled on many occations against an entity That can be harmed with anything while when he himself had the Full Potential Omnipotence in A Link to the Past not evem the Master can damage him unless you Upgrade it into the Golden Sword
What I rather think is Zelda doing something similar to A Link between worlds when she created Light Arrows by using the LIGHT Part of the Morally Neutral Triforce
@@Chris-gx1ei The Triforce in BotW and TotK are different from the main timeline games, it’s a power born into the royal family that must be controlled by the owner, and Zelda is quite powerful once she manages it, also becoming the sage of time with it
@@Chris-gx1ei my theory is that wild era zelda thinks her sealing power/time power is the height of her power, and she doesn't know she can go above and beyond. In other games, the person who had the full triforce knew it existed and how to use it, whereas the workings of the triforce has been lost to time by the time botw/totk happens, so zelda wouldn't know how powerful she really is
@@angjer8382
Still, while not doing everything, she is not supposed to get tired if she uses it just as a Power-Source
@@Gaffivory thats just tinfoil theories, theres ZERO official confirmation on wether zelda gets her power from hylia, which mind you is the origin of all zeldas, or the triforce
"little girl with no triforce powers" proceeds to show Zelda using the full triforce to seal him for 100 years
we dont really know, in breath of the wild its stated to be the power of royal blood. we cant say its the tri force and instead just have to assume its ancient magic from the goddess hylia. tri force wouldn't just be in zelda and nowhere else, if the tri force was active ganon wouldn't of been seeking a secret stone he would of just gone for the tri force.
@@kingmcclawson at 11:46 you can literally see the triforce glowing on the back of her hand as she seals away ganon
@@LAaronB10 the tri force wouldn't just seal away ganon☠️☠️☠️☠️ that's just cultivate magic of the royal line, you don't have to train to use the all powerful triforce ☠️☠️☠️
@@kingmcclawson apparently the BotW triforce works differently then the triforce in other games, because it was very clear: Zelda held up her hand. The Triforce glowed in her hand. Ganon was sealed in place. If it was just royal magic and had nothing to do with the power of the triforce, then the imagery would what, just be a lie? lol
@LAaronB10
yes☠️☠️☠️☠️ works differently from other games, which means it isn't the tri force. The tri force isn't mentioned, so why are you just assuming "ye looks like it, so it must be it?"
Not called tri force
Doesn't do anything the triforce does
But it looks like the tri force
So what just because it meets one factor You take it as true even though two other factors are against it? That's just illogical. Your also talking as if a royal family replicating an ancient symbol of power to prove they still have power is outlandish☠️
not menacing? dude Windwaker Ganondorf destroyed an entire island killing everybody on it and froze time. all BEFORE his power was unsealed.
Way more menacing than having the power of the only royalty left in Hyrule and doing such horribly evil deeds such as… scaring horses or… getting rock people hooked on drugs.
As someone who has a passion for good villains, it really hurts to see how much praise TotK Ganondorf gets for doing basically nothing with his abilities.
@@HungryWarden correction, he did NOT have zelda or her power, he used illusions to look like her. theres a MASSIVE difference there, for someone who claims to have a passion for good villains you sure dont pay all that much attention to how they go about it
@@Leeloo-Foxxi mean, if you can pass yourself off as zelda there’s probably a lot you could do with that
@@HungryWarden I agree, Totk ganondorf is a bad guy for basic and uninteresting reason, conquer and power, its so boring, he is cool but i mean its so less that the characters of ganondorf in wind waker much more complex and poetic
@@lemarouflard2091 I absolutely agree that WW has by far the best iteration of the character while TotK Ganondorf's only virtue was that he had a really good boss battle. But to be fair the list is more about which one was the most menacing/competent, not about which one has the better character.
If I'm being honest, I really think OoT and WW were the only games in which Ganondorf was actually good as a character.
8:08 it’s actually a pretty long time after ocarina of time because the hero of time the link in ocarina of time is dead by the time the events of twilight princess occur so it’s at least a generation after since twilight princess is a whole new link
"this little girl with no triforce power-" he says as footage of Zelda with a full triforce on her hand plays. Brother, what
The Full Triforce makes her almost Equal to Lord Jesus Christ Allmighty himself, how can you explain her struggle against an entity That can be harmed with sticks even if she has basically infinite Power?
"With no Triforce Power" She has the full Triforce my guy
The Full Triforce makes her almost Equal to Lord Jesus Christ Allmighty himself, how can you explain her struggle against an entity That can be harmed with sticks even if she has basically infinite Power?
It’s still crazy to me that he started off looking like a pig.
Pigs represent greed and avarice in many asian cultures and traditions which is why Miyamoto originally designed him as such to represent his greed for the 2 Triforce pieces.
Ultimate glow up
From a fat blue pig, to being an 8 foot tall sexy hunk.
In his defense, most of if not all of pig Ganon's appearances happen in the timeline where he defeats the hero, having likely assumed his demon form to do so. (According to Hyrule Historia.)
I'd assume he was at the peak of his evil and probably couldn't turn back at that point. Whereas in the child timeline of OoT, he never gets to assume that form until TP. Meanwhile in the adult timeline, he was sealed away, likely not having access to that form anymore even after freeing himself, hence why he doesn't use it in Windwaker.
8:31 the king of the- WHAT?! He is NO such thing sir! Never before have I been so offended on Midna's behalf :T
This.
Absolutely this, Zant is/was an usurper and not related to Midna or her family in an way.
He was just a greedy petulant man who want to rule and the sub text later on implies he wanted Midna to basically be his slave with all that implies in regards to someone who is perfectly willing to abuse their authority and power.
Self-proclaimed is more accurate. He is still a king though
He ate the stone thingy. That’s why Ganon became a dragon - Draconification after eating the stone, like Zelda did eons before.
You can clearly see Zelda has the FULL Triforce on her hand in BOTW, it took a whole divine power JUST to him back
That is only a theory.
Theory.
If she has then it is not clearly the whole thing, how would she struggle against an entity that can be cut down with Chop Sticks if she has infinite power in form of an Omnipotent wish?
I see it more like A Link between Worlds where she only used the Light of the Triforce, not the Triforce itself, to summon Light Arrows
@@Chris-gx1eithats the point of her character she doesnt know how to control/use her powers correctly
@@markanthony7191 ye coz it aint the tri force😭 if the tri force was around that bum ah ganon in totk would of been seeking the literal all powerful tri force, not a secret stone. theres not a level of understanding in the tri force it just does what it does.
It's actually a shame there's not more backstory to Demise. He is way more badass than every of the Ganons combined.
I mean, he basically killed almost every human being on earth and fought with the godess herself and injured her so bad that she had to give up her godly form and force her entity into a human.
Yeah he has a surprisingly boring backstory (wanting the triforce and being a hater for no reason) for being the villain responsible for probably every game lore-wise
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@@angjer8382 Actually he does have a reason to hate the gods of Hyrule and that reason is that they built the reality that would eventually becomes Hyrule on top of the primordial chaos that used to be the home of the Demon Tribe.
@@Vigriff while that does hold some ground, i'm pretty sure that's a theory and not confirmed
@@angjer8382 I wouldn't call it boring per se. He has a reason to hate. Because he literally IS hate. There's good and evil in the world. The godesses are the good, he is the evil.
6:45 : "Only half of that comes true"
I dunno. Even according to Hyrule Historia, we never see him again in thst particular timeline.
He's possibly referring to his _reincarnation_ in later games (eg: Tears of the Kingdom) thus confirming Daphnes's wish to kill Ganondorf only becoming partly true due to his reincarnation in the Era of the Wild.
@@javiervasquez625 BotW and TotK are in an unrelated timeline, though. No reincarnation happens in the timeline (the games Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks) after Daphnes makes this wish.
Yes, I've heard of the convergence theory, but with one timeline having Hyrule flooded, the master sword and Triforce lost beneath the waves, and everyone moves on to a new hyrule... and the other timeline involving the extinction of the Gorons and Sheikah, Ganon making Death Mountain *his* home, corruption of the Zora, and a waning of Hyrule's magic power (as well as a growing population of spoonears and the expansion of it's borders... what good is convergence if 2/3 of the timelines are outright incompatible?
(Granted, my personal theory is that botw and totk are in a seventh, unrelated timeline anyway, but I'll play by the common rules for the sake of arguement)
@@Okada_Caelun The Era of the Wild makes explicit _references_ to the Adult Timeline ranging from reintroducing the Rito and Korok from The Wind Waker, having locations and landmarks named after characters and locations from across the Adult Timeline, having the dyemaster Sayge been revealed as a reincarnation of Doc Bandam from The Wind Waker and even a small joke on Chancellor Cole from Spirit Tracks via a recipe book in Hyrule Castle's kitchen. It's clear from all these references that to Nintendo the Adult Timeline is just as much canon to the Era of the Wild as are the other 2 timelines for there to be so many continuity nods without any timeline connection whatsoever. With that in mind it's 100% logical to conclude the Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom is a reincarnation of the one from The Wind Waker should players choose to assume the Era of the Wild takes place in the Adult Timeline.
Did you just counter the Unification Theory (i like to call it unification rather than convergence) by randomly spitting random theories of your own...? When and where is it ever stated that the Triforce and the Master Sword were _permanently_ *lost* beneath the waves? Last time we see the Triforce it flies upwards into the sky before splitting away and disappearing from view only for it to appear at the very end of the game as if implying it's very much still intact albeit in an undisclosed location (the Sacred Realm?). Add to that the story of A Link between Worlds which shows what happens to the ENTIRE ZELDA WORLD should the Triforce be destroyed and it is explicitly clear that the Triforce is still around after Daphnes made his wish. Same thing with the Master Sword as the last time we see it in the Adult Timeline it remains _intact_ stucked on Ganondorf's forehead without any sign of it been destroyed following the flooding of the old kingdom. All things considered, it's plausible that after many thousands of years passed by the sea which originally flooded the original Hyrule slowly _eroded_ and dried away allowing the people of Tetra's Hyrule to eventually move back to the original Hyrule where the Master Sword still remained and the Zonai would one day arrive at in order to kickstart the Era of the Wild. Regarding the Gorons and the Sheikah becoming "extinct"... What? Just because we don't _see_ them appear throughout a specific timeline shouldn't be seen as evidence for their extinction when no dialogue or piece of information points in such a direction especially when the franchise has shown the tendency of ignoring certain characters and races from some games only to randomly bring them back in other ones (Gorons in the Oracle games). I don't see the argument in regards to Ganon using Death Mountain as his lair in the original The Legend of Zelda so i don't see what your point is and what is it you're trying to say so i don't know what to say in that regard. Finally, as to the "corruption" of the Zora, just because we see an enemy variant called Zora shouldn't be reason to assume they're the SAME RACE when Oracle of Ages proves they're seperate races with nothing to do with one another. Just because we have "spooneared" Hylians doesn't mean the timelines couldn't have unified into one so i just don't agree with the final point you brought up.
¿Why a seventh timeline? How many "side timelines" can there be aside from the original three and the (supposedly) fourth timeline where the events of the Wild duology take place?
@@javiervasquez625 I'm only going to respond to three of your questions, simply because I don't think we'd come to an agreement.
First, things like the reference to Cole are inconsequential. With how long it would have been between games there's no way it's the same person, so it's the same situation as Link and Zelda having the same names as previous versions.
Second, I'm not counting the Oracle games because they don't take place in Hyrule. It's even arguable that they're in the same dimension, considering how Link gets there. So the presence of Gorons and Zora in both of those games doesn't prove much for what happened to them in Hyrule.
Third, as for "Seventh Timeline"... my own theory is largely that "Hyrule Historia isn't canon". So, being generous:
1 - Skyward Sword
2 - Minish cap/Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures
3 - OoT/MM/WW/Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks
4 - Triforce of the Gods (LttP in the US)/Oracles/Link's Awakening
5 - Twilight Princess
6 - Zelda 1/Zelda2
7 - BotW/TotK
8 - Link Between Worlds
Being less generous, every game is in it's own separate timeline unless explicitly said in-game to have the same Link as a previous game. Because quite obviously Nintendo doesn't care about this timeline nonsense: otherwise TotK wouldn't have put Rito in the middle of the Imprisoning War (which is OoT in the time period), or have four different Ganon/dorfs face the Master Sword for the first time (OoT/TotG/Twilight/TotK) with three different origin stories for said sword (Skyward/TotG/TotK). So Nintendo gets to make their cute references to previous games and WE are the only ones concerned about how it affects canon.
Which is also why I'd rather not get tied down in an argument, because ultimately I don't think it matters.
@@Okada_Caelun ¿Why would the reference to Cole be "inconsequential" when the recipe makes an obvious allusion to Cole's demonic nature...? Wether the book is referring to a "different" Chancellor Cole doesn't deny the fact it's still a reference to the same character either way making it redundant to dodge the obvious connection to Spirit Tracks and by extension the Adult Timeline.
The instruction manuals for both Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages refer to the lands of Holodrum and Labrynna as _"far away lands from Hyrule"_ with Princess Zelda herself travelling to both realms on *foot,* confirming they exist in the same world as Hyrule's just like the Land of the Lokomos and Hytopia.
¿Why would you concoct such a specific timeline when Nintendo has continuously corroborated they're own official timeline over the course of 3 different sources? The Hyrule Historia, Hyrule Encyclopedia and official japanese timeline page all corroborate one another with the existence of 3 specific timelines which were created at the end of Ocarina of Time. All of the events depicted in the Wild duology take place at the very *end* of all 3 timelines as confirmed in the official japanese page meaning everything involving the reincarnated Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom happens thousands of years AFTER the events of all 3 timelines took place in the long forgotten past. It appears to me that a lot of your theories are mostly based on misinformation as revealed in the games's instruction manuals and supplementary sources such as the official japanese The Legend of Zelda page so i can understand why you would be so confused as to the established Lore to concieve of a seventh timeline despite of what the Lore states.
Funny thing about OoT Ganondorf is that he and OoT Zelda had the exact same idea: let Link do all the legwork. And it works! Also, that Ganondorf is the only one who canonically kills a Link in one timeline (because he's such a big deal that he split the timeline and gave us three times as many Zelda games), so I'd actually put him higher than Elite tier...
Is it canon that ganon killed link? Maybe link just choked on water and died lol
i'd argue every game has a fallen timeline, (zelda II's game over screen is literally a glimpse into said fallen timeline) we just see what happens in ocarina of time's fallen timeline
@@ferriwheel_meow yes and no, the fallen timeline is a parallel universe and not canon to the timeline, but yes ganon has to be the one to kill link in the final battle for the fallen timeline to happen (i think)
@@angjer8382 The Downfall Timeline is referenced all across the Era of the Wild's Hyrule meaning it's definetly canon to the timeline as a whole regardless of wether it's creation was due to a "what if" scenario where Ganon kills Link (somehow).
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the timeline split happened because the triforce couldn't decide who's wish to grant of all 3 people there (Zelda - Undo Gannondorfs damage to Hyrule, Link - Stop Gannondorf, Gannondorf - Win), so it gave up and granted all of them.
Adventure of Link's minions are actually split, the overworld ones are Ganon's forces while the dungeon ones are essentially guardians put there by the former king to protect the Triforce of Courage. Kinda puts Iron Knuckles in particular in a new light and makes Ganon even more useless when the King's minions are often better at enabling Ganon's revival than his.
Edit: Also Iirc, the reason the Dark World exists is because Ganon made a wish to rule the world. The Triforce interpreted that as ruling the Sacred Realm, turning it into the Dark World, and he just rolled with it.
And finally we never see Four Swords Adventures Ganon with the Triforce of Power. If anything the fact he was stealing energy from the land of Hyrule itself in the form of Force Gems, how much he utilizes Vaati's magic in his plans, and him lamenting that he didn't steal enough power from the Hyruleans kind of implies he doesn't and that his Ganon form is just due to his evil being revealed in harnessing the Dark World.
Look, he gone in links awakening, but I'll like to mention that the nightmare took form of Ganon over links ptsd from a link to the past. With that, it makes a link to the past Ganon feel all the more menacing.
Besides Ganondorf in ToTK having a health bar with a lot of extra inches, he also permanently removes your hearts and surprises you by pulling a reverse uno card on your perfect dodge strike. Oh, that and that fact he has the power of God, Anime and Suavemente on his side.
Suavemente is originally OoT ganondorf's power.
I really wish we could see another game where Vaati is the villain, only as the main villain without Ganon. I think he's a criminally underrated villain considering within the timeline he apparently predates Ganon, and honestly I think there's just too many games where Ganon is the main villain
When you really look at Four Swords Adventures, a lot of the magical backing was actually Vaati and his curses, knowledge of what makes up Hyrule's magic and powerset are pretty wide. You just always fought him at the beginning of his ascension, not long after breaking his seal, and under Ganon respectively. Heck the assault on Hyrule that made him infamous in-universe and his defeat are entirely backstory in his first appearance.
@@cassowary1817It helps that unlike Twilight Princess with Zant, Ganon isn't directly manipulating Vaati. He essentially just sets up his release and the takes advantage of Vaati causing chaos while he works behind the scenes.
I feel bad for Gannon cuz he's the samd guy in every game, just getting beat up by a kid cosplaying Peter Pan
He's not always the same Ganon as it is a different person in Fourswords Adventure and TotK.
Also he tends to fight young adults most of the time, I think Wilds Link is in his 20s.
@@MysteriousTomJenkinsThere's also arguably some leeway in the age of Wind Waker Link. Like we see some adult characters that are the same height, and since the WW timeline would know of the Adult hero of time (probably more so than him as a child), WW Link could easily be 16-17.
I wish more people talked about Hyrule Warriors (Original, not Age of Calamity). That Ganondorf may be on par with Tears of the Kingdom or Twilight Princess Ganons in terms of power. He was literally broken into 4 pieces and scattered across Space and Time, and still managed to influence Hyrule by corrupting a magic user, Cia, who watched over time, and wasn't supposed to interfere, who had a crush on Link. He managed to manipulate Cia into releasing 3 of his soul fragments without her realizing what he was doing. And even with only 3/4 of his soul restored, he still managed to nearly defeat Cia and take the Triforce of Power from her until she used it to banish him. And even then, he still showed up with a summoned army to try and take it from the battlefield while Cia's and the Hyrulean Armies were fighting, also almost kidnapping Zelda. And once his final soul piece broke free, he did just summon both Zant and Ghirahim from across space and time to serve his new incarnation, and ultimately won, taking the entire Triforce, only finally being brought down afterwards due to his own arrogance about being untouchable at that point.
A tierlist with nothing in worthless tier?
Good job man!!!
Yeah, ganon and shadow they don't screw around, ganon is the real meaning of evil, i mean, in oot his title his the king of evil, and for shadow is the ultimate life form, and shadow is a cool anti hero who show enemies who's boss, no one manipulates him he makes his own desicions, and straight solves the problem to keep the world safe for maria, while ganon he sometimes wins, there's a fallen hero timeline where he wins, hyrule warrior warriors he beats link and zelda and the finale was familiar with tears of the kingdom that took a lot of people and ganon and destroying everyone, and breath of the wild almost won, like yeah, they both are the best.
@@heartlesshero9859 Holy sht, bro wrote a whole legend of Zelda thesis
12:10 "you can't stop it yet" unless link is a psicopath with the skill to go through walls and literally fly
i love BTW speedruns LoL
The cool thing about TP Ganondorf, WW Ganondorf, and OoT Ganondorf, is that they're all literally the same guy, just at different times in his life and from differing timelines. Not differing incarnations with the same name. Not long-corrupted monsters (for the most part) or forces of nature. Humans. The same human. Ganondorf Dragmire, son of Twinrova, King of the Gerudo.
OoT Ganondorf is the literal OG (Original Ganondorf). Raw and arrogant. Extremely powerful, but far too overconfident for his own good. He thinks himself invincible, but that's not how things will work out for him, at least in most timelines...
TP Ganondorf is the wounded animal. Bent but not broken, his initial plans foiled, he's given a second chance by "the whims of the gods" (actually by Zelda cocking things up the end of OoT and splitting the timeline...). Once again incredibly powerful, but he was burnt once already before he even got a chance to fully shine, and then was banished to twilight, so he adapts. He bides his time, seething in his rage, until he (thinks he) controls everything, at which point it's time for revenge...
WW Ganondorf is The Ganondorf Who Won. He took the Triforce of Power and ruled Hyrule for nearly a decade before the courage of the Hero of Time, and his own hubris, led to the Triforce abandoning him and his downfall. He's had time to dwell on his failure, and he's lacking the power he gained in the past or in the other timeline (at least at first), so he lurks behind the scenes, manipulating events and not truly exposing himself until his moment of triumph is guaranteed. He's mellow, even thoughtful, because he realizes his earlier brashness is what caused him to lose. And he actually succeeds _again..._ only to be tripped up at the literal very last second by a side character who isn't even one of the Triforce's Chosen. One who should have been dead decades ago. And all he can do is laugh...before deciding to go out fighting...
I think it's neat that Four Swords Adventures added lore about Ganon's Trident, it being some legendary weapon of evil.
The missunderstanding of some of the lore here is real…
I’d cut him some slack. There’s a lot of lore to cover
@@dagothurik1815 Wouldn't be an issue was a Zelda fan.
@@dreamimgflowerd976 Not even needing to be a fan, just play the games or watch a playthrough or use Google. The games explain themselves pretty well.
@@dreamimgflowerd976It would, cuz it seems not even Nintendo understands its own lore sometimes
7:28 Four Swords is a direct sequel to Minish Cap and a prequel to OoT, and Four Swords Adventure is a sequel to Twilight Princess, and the end of the Child Timeline.
the off-center health bar is so fuckin silly lmao
To be fair, they probably did that as an apology for knocking Ganon's health to 50% in BotW.
Cool video jst wanted to say in TP zeldas body was in the throne room the whole time since zant invaded and her spirit thanks to the triforce of wisdom was in the tower thats why she vanishes after giving the triforce of wisdom to midna. And in Botw zelda had the full triforce which is how she managed to keep calamity ganon at bay for 100 years.
wind waker ganondorf might be my favorite because he actually goes in to some detail on his perspective at the end there
Counterpoint of BotW, Link can stop him immediately after jumping off the great Plateau and his second form is the easiest final boss in the series. He should be moved down one tier.
The video was not do much about "How hard Ganondorf is as a bossfight?" But much on "What did Ganon do?"
And fot BotW, Calamity Ganon did lay the whole kingdom to waste for a century.
@@kamikosoulight3125to add even further into this, we find out in Totk calamity Ganon was but a fraction of Ganadorfs power that was gradually weakening the seal Raru put on him, and it was only after Link slayed calamity Ganon that the seal was finally opened. Which means despite being a lack luster boss, Calamity Ganon was a run off of ganons full power which alone put the kingdom of hyrule into ruin
Just because people can break the game it doesn't mean it's canon
@@VanguardEndeavorHowever, I would say that doesn’t work because Tears of the Kingdom Ganondorf is worthy of useless tier. Everything he does either serves as a gameplay mechanic, makes it easier to defeat him, or does nothing.
@@HungryWarden useless? He puts the 4 nations of the land outside of hyrule back under his control with coldgera, the gibdose queen, marble goma, and mucktorock. He nearly kills link while he was in a weakened state at the beginning of the game and causes him to have to get all of his strength back. Defeats the sages and Zelda in the prehistory of hyrule. And lastly covers hyrule once again in an army of monsters. It takes the combined efforts of link, Zelda, and the modern day sages to even stop him. Only for him to defeat the modern day sages (so defeating the sages a second time) and leaving Link and him to finish the duel they start at the start of said fight. He is no where near useless and most of the in lore things that he ends of doing is either defeating good guys or conquering the land. And even while he WAS still sealed. All of the events of breathe of the wild is still this same ganondorf. So that means he had the nations of hyrule under his control twice in this lore of the games.
He's pretty great in Twilight Princess but I'll never forgive that story for how he hijacked it. Zant seemed so threatening in his first appearances then after Ganondorf shows up he just turns into a clown until you kill him. It's a shame.
I kinda get it but on the other hand you have this surprise effect when finding out Zant is actually a loser.
But he still manages to be extremely evil after Ganon gave his powers to him.
Yea, He had a brain through the previous portion of the game (or you were let to believe that), and it could have been handled similarly to how Agahnim was his alterego.
The first time playing and seeing that was really disappointing experience. Like okay we are done with this cool designed character we played up now, lets just go back to Ganon right now, plot be damned.
The Zora didn't successfully convert from an aquatic peoples to an aviating peoples, adapting and surviving in a post-apocalyptic world beyond what any other race in the series has ever done just to be called "some bird things".
Honestly should’ve ranked Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf, he’s insane in that game and I consider it canon (even if Nintendo says it isn’t)
Considering OoT, TP, and WW are all supposed to have the same Ganon with different events unfolding, it's interesting that he just so happens to fall off in the timeline that DOESN'T have the soul of the hero. I'd figure it made him a little cocky since Toon Link isn't a true reincarnation of the hero. I think WW Ganon was banking on that fact and wasn't particularly concerned until he got triple teamed by two kids and the spirit of an old man.
He didn't underestimate the Hero of the Winds, he takes steps to ensure he's depowered and before the last fight he makes him fight a giant puppet and climb extremely high, making Link exhausted when he finally showed up.
Ganon actively took that Link seriously around the end, even thinking he was the Hero of Time reborn though Ganon wouldn't really know about the curse so wouldn't really assume a new Link would show up or that Link doesn't exist anymore. He's only met one other before the hero of winds.
7:53 We actually don't know that. Given that the Triforce of Power faded away from his hand in Twilight Princess when he died, and that the Ganon is not known to have entered the Sacred Realm in Four Swords Adventures.
8:07, the events of Twilight Princess actually happen at the same time as the events of The Wind Waker. Just during a different timeline. It's also defeating Stallord, not Zant, that informs you of Ganon's status as the villain of this game.
11:40 Again, we don't know that. In fact, she could have very well owned the complete Triforce by that point.
Regarding the point about the Triforce of Power it is worth remembering that in A Link between Worlds "Ganon" was seemingly revealed as magically possessing the Triforce of Power while dead despite both A Link to the Past and the Oracle games showing the complete Triforce. With that in mind, it's possible Twilight Princess Ganondorf was also able to retain his Triforce of Power after dying, allowing his reincarnation from Four Swords Adventures to inherit it from his past self.
Ganondorf looks so jacked in TotK makes me wonder if he’s actually a natty.
I love your video.
Can’t wait to see what character you do next.
I hope it Diddy Kong next.
Bowser and Eggman are often overwhelmed by other villains and occasionally team up with the heroes because they are no match for new serious threats. This is NEVER the case with Ganon; most Zelda villains are under him, want to bring him back or need him to accomplish their goals, and those who do not are usually mediocre.
One of the few real exceptions to this rule is the personification of evil/chaos in Termina: Majora itself. Putting Majora aside, there's few villains who can stand on their own two legs without Ganon's help.
SPOILERS OF ZELDA ECHOES OF WISDOM
I would reduce ganon to trouble maker, since you only see him at the beginning of the game, the 4th boss is just an echo of him, not the real one, but ganon planed taking down link when he said that his presence would benefit him, even that he gets defeated, he placed the trident to open a rift to take down, if link didn't shot free zelda, null wins, or if the rift captures her, also null wins, and thanks to ganon helping null, hyrule didn't have their usual hero and only zelda saves everything, and null did so many dirty work to take down zelda, if the king didn't notice the rift and not pushed zelda, null wins, also another rift chasing zelda, if she get caught he would win as well, after echo ganon's defeat, null personally attacked zelda, and if it wasn't for link coming to save zelda again, null wins, then null ambushes zelda and creates an imposter zelda, and zelda fainted, if it wasn't for tri on teleporting zelda away, the imposter would kill zelda, and null wins, and finally imposter zelda get the triforce to wish to make the whole world into nothing, but the presence of zelda made the triforce seperate into 3, that was the closest so far, yeah, everything was lucky, but at least ganon is not worthless since he dealed with null and he took down link so he can't go to hyrule so null can mess with hyrule and almost took down zelda in so many ways, so yeah, Trouble Maker
Forgot to mention in totk how he literally soloed all the sages, Rauru and Zelda all wearing secret stones with no effort until Rauru pulled a sneaky on him to seal him away to which he went ”Whatever dude, I’ll wait it out idc” and then the first thing he does when he wakes up tens of thousands of years later as a mummy is to break the Master Sword into a hundred pieces without moving a muscle.
Majora’s mask he wasn’t present, but it was the in between Link being a child and growing up to become Adult Link to kill Ganon. The 5 stages of grief were caused by Ganon indirectly to have him become sealed once more.
Hot take: Swap WW and TP. Zant isn't just his bitch, Zant's the one who pulls off ALL of the villainous actions. Ganondorf gets mad, gets sealed, whispers into his jabroni ear, then waits to be manifested and possesses Zelda for a minute. He gets an epic battle, but his actual actions besides being asked to let go are minimal. Contrast with LttP, where at least the Wizard is him, so he's doing everything. WW on the other hand he personally oversees everything, and clearly has the power to end Link multiple times, along with taking a full on dragon-god to the ****ing face and his CLOTHES aren't even singed the next time you see him. I mean, c'mon.
I like to think that the triforce of courage regenerates links health sense in the 64 when his triforce responds he gets all of his health back.
I personally think Wind Waker’s Ganondorf is the one that came closest to succeeding, but that’s just me. Perhaps with he cycle broken by here being no Hero Spirit due to the Hero of Time leaving, it’s possible that Demise’s Curse is no longer influencing Ganondorf. He’s still an ambitious dick, but he’s able to reflect on what he did and ask “why?”
After beating Echoes I would place him near bottom. He really wasn't in it. Was a guy named Null. It created a a few Ganons though. Wasn't Ganon per say.
Actually, in lttp. Ganon foolishly decided that he didn’t need the triforce to defeat link and left it behind
Ganon possessing the full Triforce in A Link to the Past is a big misconception...
I think bro underestimated the mega ultra super elongated hp bar
Ganondorf coming back out with midnas helmet is gonna be a thing im never gonna forgot, followed by one of the best and sickest duels of all zelda games
“The king of the Twili, Zant”
Are you engagement farming? He gave Zant the power to usurp the throne. Zant didn’t start out as king.
Awesome video, Bro! Mephiles is Ganondorf's Sega Counterpart.
I would say Wind Waker’s Ganondorf is in elite. Every Ganondorf is in elite. But besides that. Great video! 😃
I agree with the video though. Wind Waker's Ganondorf is more chill. Like he's gone to therapy and really worked on himself (too bad he couldn't do it enough to just give up world domination). He's not gonna kill Link and Zelda, he's not even gonna go full pig mode, he just settles on a sword fight and gets a sword in the head. He's good but he ain't bringing his A game.
I agree. But I’m chill he is it’s pretty frightening. Good point though! 😃
@@TwoPairSA In that Ganon's defense, he had zero idea that the king was A: Alive and B: There. He neutralized every threat he knew about, and if he got his wish, the Master Sword's little more than a paperweight.
@TwoPairSA he killed a whole island of people and tried killing link on 3 different occasions but okay
@@TwoPairSAI wouldn't say WW Ganondorf is more "chill" necessarily, it's more that he's a tired old man who's gotten much wiser with his years. That said, he's still absolutely ruthless and destroyed an entire island in the blink of an eye and cursed an entire ocean.
Hyrule warriors ganon is objectively the best ganon, but always overlooked
Short Correction:
The Triforce doesnt split because of "Unpure Heart"
The Triforce is an Allmighty Force that is Morally Neutral and basically anyone can use it, though the Triforce only sees someone as a good ruler if they have a Balance of Faith within Courage, Power and Wisdom, Ganon thinks that Power is everything just like any other Villain basically and thus the Triforce saw him unworthy and split, leaving only the piece that resembles what he believes in the most, meaning if he really wants to reunite the Triforce again, then he has to work his ass of with finding the other bearers if he wants to reunite it, and damn, 7 years he waited, Ganon really has tons of patience.
And Link is not actually stronger than Ganon, Link just has a fucking arsenal of Holy Weapons allowing him to chease him to death.
Bro the health bar in totk shocked me in every posibble way
After playing through Echoes of Wisdom, his placement here is pretty funny
When Ganon's health bar extended, I couldn't help but laugh at it.
9:30 What is this version of Zelda's lullaby? Anyone knows? Thanks in advance.
Ganon is always still something. A powerhouse that never quits.
Where DID you get this timeline where the Four Swords stuff is in the Downfall Timeline?
7:36 Wait what? Wasn't Four Swords right after Minish Cap and Four Swords Adventures in the Child Timeline?
personally I find a very intelligent conniving villain that gets to the end of his rope and says screw it chooses to give up his very being just to screw over the hero’s is pretty terrifying, pure dedication till the very end of the game
if Ganondorf wasn't in Worthless even once, WHY THE FU- IS THERE A WORTHLLESS TIER (I Hope My Idea is used Next...)
To keep this list comparable with other villains who do fall into the useless tier.
...I mean.
The 'demon' form of Ganondorf is actually just 'Ganon'. Who existed before Ganondorf did.
I think every time Ganondorf has shown up it's been the same person, basically? Or at least the same person in the way that all the Links and Zeldas are the same person, the same spirit being reincarnated over and over.
But yeah there is a difference between Ganon and Ganondorf.
I'd argue that Ganon is 'he gone' in Zelda 2, since the only time he appears is if you get a game over. Granted, you are very likely to get a game over in that game, but still. His troops are causing trouble, but Ganon himself doesn't show up.
A Link to the Past... I dunno. He does a lot of stuff but if he was essentially a god, taking out Link should have been easy. Heck, Link undoes everything that Ganon causes by touching the Triforce and making a wish, so why didn't Ganon just wish Link into non-existence? That's just kinda dumb and keeps him from being Elite in my book.
Ocarina of Time... I'm pretty sure it wasn't because Ganondorf didn't have a pure heart that the Triforce scattered. It's because his Power, Wisdom, and Courage were out of balance, so he could not claim the entire Triforce so easily. As we see in Wind Waker, he is able to claim the other pieces of the Triforce from Zelda and Link so he can still get it, but it's easier if you're balanced. But yeah, easy elite tier, he took over Hyrule for 7 years, and was VERY persistent in his attempts to kill Link, what with kidnapping Zelda, fighting Link, trying to bring the tower down to kill both him and Zelda, and then fighting him again as Ganon... easy elite.
Oracle... yeah that's about right. He's summoned as a mindless beast, has no power from the Triforce (I don't think Link does either, though) and is pretty easy to take down. Fun fact, the Link in the Oracle and Awakening games are the same Link as the one in A Link To The Past. But yeah he technically does show up and does SOMETHING but can't give him much credit for it.
Wind Waker... This section just reeks of 'did not play the game and did not do the research'. Those 'weird bird things' are the Rito. The same species that shows up in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. The King's wish does not involve reviving Link and Zelda. They were just unconscious or temporarily out of action. And to be fair, why stomp them into the pavement when it seems like you're the only ones there and the more pressing matter is assembling the Triforce. For all we know, when they die, something might happen to their Triforce piece so that Ganondorf can't take it from their dead corpses and has to take it from them when they're alive? I'd still say he's Elite because he still escaped the flooded Hyrule to get to the Great Sea, when flooding Hyrule was supposed to keep him contained/trapped, and up until the part where you actually fight him you're just unable to do anything to him at all. Link gets BODIED by him, TWICE. And then I guess he's easier to fight since he no longer has his Triforce of Power. To be honest it was a good plan and was only foiled by the King of Hyrule apaprently being able to teleport or something. The fact that he's calmer and says he won't kill Link doesn't make him any less elite.
...Aren't Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks in the same timeline? Like, in Spirit Tracks it is stated that it happened after Link and the Pirates settled elsewhere, and you're even friends with the last one of the pirates that is still alive.
"We're not ranking Demise"
...And why not? Aren't Ganon/Ganondorf is basically just Demise being reincarnated as Link and Zelda are? And if you're going to go with the 'well it doesn't count because Ganondorf is technically mortal'... Zelda is technically Hylia in mortal form, so doesn't that mean that there is actually no Zelda?
I'd argue that A Link Between Worlds is either 'useless' or 'he gone', since he has nothing to do with it. Yuga is possessing him, Ganon does NOTHING.
Breath of the Wild... I'd argue that no, he's not Elite here. He is held off by Zelda for a century despite Zelda having no triforce. You say 'You can see the corrupted castle but know you can't do anything about it yet'... but you can literally go there as soon as you're done with the tutorial area. It's not a recommended course of action, but it is something that you can do. Considering you can beat the game when Link is at his absolute weakest, I don't think it counts as elite at all.
Tears of the Kingdom... the fact you don't get the dragon thing just shows that you didn't do your research again. And how is a giant fucking dragon not more threatening then human Ganondorf? Because he doesn't have an extended life bar?
In A Link to the Past Ganon had already wished on the Triforce, that's what turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World. He cannot make another wish, because he already made one.
All Links, Zeldas and Ganons aren't the same person, they are all separate people, with some versions appearing multiple times.
We see in literally the second game in the series that there are two Zelda existing at the same time so that nixes Zelda always being the same person. It is just someone with the blood of the goddess, not THE Goddess.
In Twilight Princess, the Hero of Twilight literally meets The Hero of Time who is a separate individual who has to teach Twilight some of his skills. Again, two Links existing in some capacity, different people.
Ganon is usually the same person, typically being the same guy we fight in Ocarina of Time but there has been two other versions. The one from Fourswords is a new one, as is Tears of the Kingdom. We often see the OoT one but there are still separate Ganons besides him.
And none of the iterations of these 3 ever retain memories from the last version. Twilight Princess Link didn't know Ganon or Zelda. If it was the same person with the same memories all the time then being reunited by presumably your wife in SS, probably girlfriend/wife in MC and best friend in OoT would probably warrant more interaction between the two but they're strangers because they are different people who don't know each other.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins Same SPIRIT, not same people.
The second Zelda in the second game was not the Legendary Princess Zelda. Just another Princess called Zelda.
Like, the very first game chronologically is Skyward Sword, and when you beat Demise, he basically curses them. Stating that an incarnation of his hatred, those with the Goddess' blood and Link's spirit will be trapped in a cycle of rebirth and conflict.
Each Link has the same spirit, but they aren’t the same person.
Each Zelda is not the same person, but have the blood of the Goddess.
Each Ganon/Ganondorf… well that’s a bit of a different thing that they’re never entirely clear about. Ganon 'returns' many times, but whether he's actually killed depends on the game. In Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf isn’t killed, he simply gets sealed away. And there isn’t a Link around when he returns. We know this because the Ganondorf in Wind Waker is the same one as in Ocarina of Time. But it can be assumed that Ganon/Ganondorf has died and then been reborn in line with Demise's curse. And the Ganondorf in Tears of the Kingdom was basically a mummy when we first saw him so it’s probably safe to assume it’s one that we have seen before. Not to mention Urbosa does mention Ganondorf and what he did in Ofarina of Time, so it’s safe to assume it takes place after Ocarina of Time… and COULD be the same Ganondorf. I haven’t beaten Tears of the Kingdom so I don’t know all the details.
The reason the Hero of Time teaches Twilight Link his moves may be a sign of kinship. He realises that Twilight Link is another incarnation of his spirit and thus shares his knowledge with someone placed under the same burden that he had. Same spirit, but not the same person.
“Because he doesn’t have a pure heart or some nonsense”
It was explicitly explained that the attributes of power, wisdom and coursge were out of balance in his heart that the triforce split. Power remained in his hands as that was what he most represented- he did a lot of manipulative, shady bullshit to try and get what he wanted, and when that failed he tried to brute force things to go in his favor. Wisdom went to Zelda- she could come up with plans to do something about Ganondorf but she lacked the power or courage to do much of anything on her own. Link got Courage- he didn’t possess overwhelming power and the plan to take down Ganondorf wasn’t his own, but he had the courage to push his way through the trials and tribulations he had to go through.
1:38 Matpat intensifies
Love that he's never in worthless tier. He's either taking over all of reality as we know it, simply up to something, or just straight up doesn't even exist but his presence even then is STILL felt cuz some other villain loves to pretend to be him. The mf is just the perfect villain, doesn't get any better in Zelda
How is BotW top when he's mindless?
And somehow, Ganondorf from wind waker feels more menacing and powerful than all the other
Honesly Ganon in WW was pretty cool. Feels like all those years being confined with limited power gave him time to think.
In Zelda 2 ganondorf deserved to be in the useless tier because he has literally no involvement unless Link is dead. Canon though is that link wins which therefore means Ganon is never around.
I just have to say. I wish you had extrapolated a bit more about why ganondorf was so much calmer in wind waker. As a response to his failure in ocarina, he gained courage and wisdom to be worthy of the entire triforce. And that wisdom tempers him throughout the game. So while he is less ruthless, it is an act of correction from a prior error, and so that should be an increase not a decrease
OoT Ganon is by no means challenging.
"This Ganon is in a tier of his own" he says before immediately putting him in a tier with two other Ganons. I agree TotK Ganon is the inarguable best. TP is next, followed by OoT. I struggle to align with the logic that ALttP is on the same level as those three or that the three alone all belong in the same tier. But this was cool video nonetheless. Thank for putting this together.
When discussing TP, you forgot to mention that the fused shadow 1-shots Zant at only fractional power, and Ganon defeated midna at full power.
6:27 what's the background music called
Farewell hyrule king, windwaker ost
I feel like you did Wind Waker Ganon a little dirty. If you put four swords in there as well, then that is just outrageous lol
Now imagining Ocarina of Time Ganon with the full triforce.
11:37 She literally has the entire triforce.
"Twilight Princess is set not that long after Ocarina of Time"
I mean...I guess several hundred years is "not that long"?
I’m just asking, Windwaker was my first Zelda game and I played Twighlight Princess after, I legit first thought that Zant was Gannon wearing a mask at first
Am I the only one who thought that?
Fun fact about Four Sword Adventures Ganon, he’s one of the only two instances where he’s a different character like Link and Zelda usually are, as he’s usually _always_ the same guy. The other instance is from TotK, which seemingly came before the Ganondorf present for most of the series. Ganondorf just happens to be the traditional name for Gerudo men.
Ganondorf outright _dying_ in Twilight Princess’ll do that to ya, but FSA Ganon is more “unfortunate circumstance” than “pure malice”.
BotW/TotK is far in the future, even the past parts. It is a new Hyrule, not the original one founded after Skyward Sword.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins timeline is wack, but Skyward Sword takes place in the distant past (Zora Ancestors), even showing the land Hyrule stands on dates back even further then that. It’s not out of reason that the founding of Hyrule in TotK was the _original_ founding of Hyrule, and it wasn’t founded in SS whatsoever. Evolution into new species takes a huge amount of time, and it’s possible that the huge amount of time between SS and MC had enough room for the TotK founding of Hyrule. Hyrule Castle’s design isn’t all that different from its iteration in TP and WW either.
12:42 im almost sure that link is ambidextrous, idk if it is in this timeline though
Great tier list! Pretty much agree with all the placements except 2 and even then one of my changes would be debatable. I'd move Link Between Worlds down to worthless since Yuga basically subsumes Ganondorf's will and power at the end. And I'd be open to changing Breath of the Wild under how debatable Calamity Ganon being ACTUAL Ganon is or even how conscious it is of it's actions versus just acting on instinct. But I could easily be persuaded to keep it there. Tears of the Kingdom though is absolutely Elite Tier. Within Elite tier itself I think I would also put Link to the Past ever so slightly above Twilight Princess but still have both of them in the same tier. Ocarina Ganon basically pulled off everything he did without even having the full Triforce so... yeah. Gotta give it to him. (Begrudgingly though since I have some slight bias to LttP since it was my first LoZ game lol).
Cadence Of Hyrule's Ganon would go in Typical Bad Guy tier, I think. He isn't present for most of the game, but he is seen as a child Ganondorf in the Gerudo village. Instead, the main villain is Octavo, a bard who looks similar to Vaati. Octavo temporarily takes control of Hyrule by putting everyone in power to sleep in an attempt to create an army to face Ganon. Link, Zelda, and Cadence unravel his plans, and destroy the Golden Lute, that he got his power from to put everyone to sleep and create the main bosses of the game. So Octavo then goes forward in time to when Ganon has already seized control of Hyrule. Ganon defeats Octavo, and is the final boss of the game, but Link, Zelda, and Cadence use Triforce spotlights to bath him in divine light to destroy him.
I don't know if this counts as WW Ganondorf, because during the events of the game all he did was kidnap some girls and destroy an island. But his impact prior to the events of the game is probably the most massive, because Ganon's return was so dire the goddesses had no choice but to flood all of Hyrule, with very few people knowing of its existence. And I have to wonder what exactly that meant for the rest of the world, wouldn't it be catastrophic for all continents if the sea level rose enough to flood all of Hyrule? Are we to assume Hyrule was in a giant dome that was below sea level so it didn't affect the rest of the world? 60% of Netherlands is below sea level so it's not too farfetched, and Hyrule always has looked like its in a deep valley, but the land of Hyrule also could have sunk into the ground.
BOTW Gannon is probably the least threatening since a couple of geriatrics with a tablet and a mop closet were enough to handle him.
Insane how often Ganon is not present in the games...
It feels like 50-50. Wow. 😅
Ah yes. The adult little girl without a triforce, except for the one on her hand.
What's the sound name in 2:51
one correction. In orcarina of time. Ganon and link are equal in power at the end of the game. This is why the timeline branches off creating two from that point. (well three but only two matter for this conversation) 1 where link wins and 2 when link loses and the world is then flooded. The ganondorf in wind waker is the exact same one from Ocarina of time. The triforce of power making him live hundreds of years.
also the only thing ganon wanted in wind waker was for the land of hyrule to return. That was his goal for the flood to end and the great desert (his home) to return wind waker ganon is honestly the cloest thing to a good guy you will get out of the character.
Ok first of all, Ganon is the evil within Ganondorf, Ganondorf always looks human, Ganon always looks like a beast
7:36 ... Excuse me why are the Four Swords games there? XD
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Oot gannondorf should be in a tier of his own since he canonically killed link as one of the options in the timeline