Despite Dave's compositions never making it onto XTC albums, his playing and arranging added so much to XTC's sound. I really felt his absence on Wasp Star, which lacked the musical sophistication and nuance which Dave always brought.
This was the year I spent 2 months wandering footpaths as well as urban areas all around London , Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset. Mummer was one of my most listened to tapes that accompanied my walks, gave me rhythm and focus to continue on over the vistas and deep greens of an English Summer, to someone who'd been waiting over 20 years to get there!
Listening to Andy's comments on the workings of the music industry in the early 80s is fascinating. No one then could have predicted the revolution to come.
This whole programme is essential viewing for anybody going into the music business. The only difference between now and 1984 is that the sharks are digital.
Yep so many well-known members of bands from the 60s, 70s, 80s (the golden age of the music industry) have talked of the same. It was seemingly one of the biggest illusions ever. We all watched as kids thinking bands on telly, on film, on record, on the radio were famous and therefore well off. There must be tbousands of people who remained in debt for years!
Dave is an amazing guitarist and he can compose amazing music! If this short video of one his compositions is any indication, he should collaborate with Andy and/or Colin. What a shame to not utilize his full talents.
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Dave Gregory is definitely still in the biz! Check out what he's doing in the fabulous British band Big Big Train!!! Simply gorgeous stuff!! Best there is right now actually!!! Don't miss!!
This youtube vidéo has a few adds youtube sells. ''This program was made by XTC'' but they earn nothing from the adds. TH-cam takes everything. That's the entité MTV system.
Mummer is a criminally under appreciated album. I love every track. Great Fire and Deliver us from the Elements are two of their best tunes. I don't think it's their best album, but it's very good, and didn't deserve to be ignored like it was at the time. The Big Express is also excellent, but took me longer to get into.
Wouldn't suprise me if Dave wasn't a drinker ? Colin would be interesting, Terry would be great he loves a drink🍻. Depends wot sort of mood Andy is in ?
Good point, but to be fair to Dave his contribution to the music of XTC is immense, as has been attested by both Andy and Colin in the book 'Song Stories'. Excellent documentary btw, thanks for uploading, sunsetz777. And it's always heartening to find that the creators of music you cherish are intelligent and witty in person.
3:46 Three classic musical moments in a row PERFECTLY re-enacted. If I'd been there I'd have run over to the piano and walloped a low octave pair of Ds for that last one. Joyous!
This is great music. I hear human speech out of my left ear only. My audiologist doesn't know this but I can rarely hear some music out of my right ear also. I could hear this music with my right ear also. I am going to pursue this with my ENT. Maybe the nerves in my right ear can be awakened with this music.
That 335 Dave picks up last could be the one he bought cheap because it was battered and beaten. The story is that when he could finally afford it, he got a skilled luthier to repair it. It was only after that had been done that he discovered the guitar used to belong to Eddie Phillips of The Creation, the first person to use a violin bow on an electric guitar, a technique made famous by Jimmy Page. Dave realised he'd just spent a lot of money to _decrease_ the value of a guitar....
Allein der erste Track von Dave….., klasse. Verdammt nochmal…, warum haben es solche Sachen nie auf eine Platte gebracht? Warum zum Teufel machen die drei keine Platten mehr? Wahrscheinlich die größte Tragödie in der Geschichte der Musik. Die drei Jungs müssen garantiert noch Unmengen an Ideen für Songs / Platten in der Schublade liegen haben. Es ist wirklich eine Tragödie………………..
Nope...Ian Gregory (E.I.E.I. Owen). Terry Chambers left in 1983 (first Dukes was 1985) and didn't do anything w/ XTC members since (recorded, anyway...I think I heard he and Dave played a gig or few together w/ Terry's band after).
As far as I know, none of Dave's compositions have made it on to any XTC record, which is a shame. I saw this show when it first aired and thought then that this piece of music sounded so good. I still do.
Could be something he was working on for another artist. He was doing quite a bit of session work at the time, most famously on Peter Gabriel's 3rd album.
Interesting. Dave is the obsessive musician yet cannot write a song. Andy and Colin have outside interests and are sublime songwriters. A lesson there, I think!
All they say about music business is still true. On TH-cam I got six or seven adds to watch during this short vidéo. Does the band earn anything with them? NO. TH-cam takes everything. Though, XTC made the program I am watching. For a clip on MTV, it was the same trap, plus, the band must pay a fortune to the Major Cie for the clip, even if thé band doesn't like it. Zappa talked a lot about the MTV system, and why he was against it. Dany Elfman said Oingo Boingo had a 150.000$ debt for a clip they were ashamed of. Etc It is a "pay to play" system.
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Andy, Colin, Dave - what a great set of guys.
Despite Dave's compositions never making it onto XTC albums, his playing and arranging added so much to XTC's sound. I really felt his absence on Wasp Star, which lacked the musical sophistication and nuance which Dave always brought.
Very interesting commune. Thanks.
👍 Nuance is the word describing Dave’s work best!
I believe Dave did the string arrangement for 1000 umbrellas. Pure genius 👍
This was the year I spent 2 months wandering footpaths as well as urban areas all around London , Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset. Mummer was one of my most listened to tapes that accompanied my walks, gave me rhythm and focus to continue on over the vistas and deep greens of an English Summer, to someone who'd been waiting over 20 years to get there!
Wish these 3 still played together with Terry on drums. No other band sounds like XTC.
Listening to Andy's comments on the workings of the music industry in the early 80s is fascinating. No one then could have predicted the revolution to come.
+George Blair XTC had a pretty bad record deal according to what I read; they never saw any money from all the live concerts they did.
Virgin at the same time brought XTC to the mass market while also strangling their future output.
This whole programme is essential viewing for anybody going into the music business. The only difference between now and 1984 is that the sharks are digital.
Yep so many well-known members of bands from the 60s, 70s, 80s (the golden age of the music industry) have talked of the same. It was seemingly one of the biggest illusions ever. We all watched as kids thinking bands on telly, on film, on record, on the radio were famous and therefore well off. There must be tbousands of people who remained in debt for years!
Dave is an amazing guitarist and he can compose amazing music! If this short video of one his compositions is any indication, he should collaborate with Andy and/or Colin. What a shame to not utilize his full talents.
Dave Gregory is definitely still in the biz! Check out what he's doing in the fabulous British band Big Big Train!!! Simply gorgeous stuff!! Best there is right now actually!!! Don't miss!!
It kills me to hear these guys talking about the music industry because they are so right!
This youtube vidéo has a few adds youtube sells. ''This program was made by XTC'' but they earn nothing from the adds. TH-cam takes everything. That's the entité MTV system.
I love watching all these videos of XTC! Great@
Beating Of Hearts, total composition. Mummer was their best album, up until this point.
I'm a big Express kinda guy myself
Mummer is a criminally under appreciated album. I love every track. Great Fire and Deliver us from the Elements are two of their best tunes. I don't think it's their best album, but it's very good, and didn't deserve to be ignored like it was at the time. The Big Express is also excellent, but took me longer to get into.
I couldn’t really get into Mummer but Love on a farmboys wages is a beautiful song
@@madophelia4322 it's a grower. Give it time
Nah English Settelment, was there best album up to that point .
And is still the best they did today, along with SkyLarking !
Dave is the XTC member I’d most like to have a pint and chat with. His guitar geek vids are awesome. A musician’s musician.
Wouldn't suprise me if Dave wasn't a drinker ? Colin would be interesting,
Terry would be great he loves a drink🍻. Depends wot sort of mood Andy is in ?
Good point, but to be fair to Dave his contribution to the music of XTC is immense, as has been attested by both Andy and Colin in the book 'Song Stories'.
Excellent documentary btw, thanks for uploading, sunsetz777. And it's always heartening to find that the creators of music you cherish are intelligent and witty in person.
the 'funk pop a roll' video looks like a pain in the butt for a 1983 producer to make- great song!!!!
3:46 Three classic musical moments in a row PERFECTLY re-enacted. If I'd been there I'd have run over to the piano and walloped a low octave pair of Ds for that last one. Joyous!
Dave never seems to get enough credit. Not sure why that is.
The more I learn about the band the more that Dave becomes my favorite member.
Everyone remembers Stanley Kubrick but no one knows Geoffrey Unsworth.
Super humble. A quaint English gentleman.
This is great music. I hear human speech out of my left ear only. My audiologist doesn't know this but I can rarely hear some music out of my right ear also. I could hear this music with my right ear also. I am going to pursue this with my ENT. Maybe the nerves in my right ear can be awakened with this music.
Push pull tactics are driving ALL OF US loco!!
a lovely selection of guitars; a nice investment if he still owns them
That 335 Dave picks up last could be the one he bought cheap because it was battered and beaten. The story is that when he could finally afford it, he got a skilled luthier to repair it. It was only after that had been done that he discovered the guitar used to belong to Eddie Phillips of The Creation, the first person to use a violin bow on an electric guitar, a technique made famous by Jimmy Page. Dave realised he'd just spent a lot of money to _decrease_ the value of a guitar....
Gutted for Dave in showing off all his guitar collection and not being able to flex them live at all in XTC.
The comments about the biz are just breathtaking
"This one goes to pi".
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Allein der erste Track von Dave….., klasse. Verdammt nochmal…, warum haben es solche Sachen nie auf eine Platte gebracht? Warum zum Teufel machen die drei keine Platten mehr? Wahrscheinlich die größte Tragödie in der Geschichte der Musik. Die drei Jungs müssen garantiert noch Unmengen an Ideen für Songs / Platten in der Schublade liegen haben. Es ist wirklich eine Tragödie………………..
For Nigelxman, I think that's Dave's brother Ian who played drums in The Dukes of Stratosphear.
Thank you for that mate. :-)
Huh... I thought that was Terry Chambers.
Nope...Ian Gregory (E.I.E.I. Owen). Terry Chambers left in 1983 (first Dukes was 1985) and didn't do anything w/ XTC members since (recorded, anyway...I think I heard he and Dave played a gig or few together w/ Terry's band after).
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Brilliant tune.
Have you ever heard a video in which Dave spoke loudly? I haven't. I don't know why he doesn't/hasn't.
Louder than bombers in flight!
11:48 Best ever VIDEO made by XTC.
Did any of what Dave is playing at the beginning bit ever make it on to any XTC album?
As far as I know, none of Dave's compositions have made it on to any XTC record, which is a shame. I saw this show when it first aired and thought then that this piece of music sounded so good. I still do.
Could be something he was working on for another artist. He was doing quite a bit of session work at the time, most famously on Peter Gabriel's 3rd album.
Look at the contract. Take it home. Have a good read.
Waiting for the amps to turn to 11.
Interesting. Dave is the obsessive musician yet cannot write a song. Andy and Colin have outside interests and are sublime songwriters. A lesson there, I think!
Might have more to do with egos. Prince was an obsessive musician too.
Anyone know what the piece is he's composing here?
Who's the guy to the right of Andy with the darting eyes and trying really hard to look angry and brooding?
Might be Dave Mattacks, who became their drummer after Terry Chambers left.
@@chuckabbate5924 Pete Phipps played drums on Mummer and The Big Express right after Terry quit. Dave Mattacks played much later on Nonsuch.
All they say about music business is still true. On TH-cam I got six or seven adds to watch during this short vidéo. Does the band earn anything with them? NO. TH-cam takes everything. Though, XTC made the program I am watching.
For a clip on MTV, it was the same trap, plus, the band must pay a fortune to the Major Cie for the clip, even if thé band doesn't like it.
Zappa talked a lot about the MTV system, and why he was against it. Dany Elfman said Oingo Boingo had a 150.000$ debt for a clip they were ashamed of. Etc
It is a "pay to play" system.
They only want bread but they're force-fed cake.
15,580 views.
Once again I have been convinced that music was indeed better back when ugly people where still allowed to make it.
This chick thinks Andy is adorable.
Illnes
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