John Heisz Thanks John. Glad you find the stuff interesting. I was starting on a woodworking project (yes actual woodworking:):) when this idea came to mind, and you know......once you start thinking about a project like this......The touchscreen was aslo saved from a dumpster at work along with all the other parts. The servo motor is close to 20 years old, and I have had it laying at my place at least 10 yrs since i dragged it home. Love it when old stuff can be reused, especially for homemade tools. thansk for watching and for the kind compliment
Brilliant idea. You make me to make this to my workshop. thanks for sharing. Would it be working with common stepper motor? like larger nema 23? thanks.
All the shop projects you build are ingenious designs, with ridiculously clever functionality... but this one really just blows my mind. man you are one smart & really creative dude! Awesome and amazing!!
Stew Pidass Thanks Stew. i appreciate you taking the time to watch my stuff, and glad you like. Thanks a lot for watching, commenting and for the very generous words. it is much appreciated
You might be right about the overkill for the average shop, but that was awesome. I didn't know about this device. Thank you for sharing your time and skills with us.
It's amazing how much cool stuff there is in the world! Useless in my shop though, I'd just play with it and never cut a thing! "How far can I shoot this can across the shop..."
GREAT JOB & I'm following your CNC build. Many years ago I designed a EXCEL spreadsheet that spit out a full cutlist for a green design I made. It was about 1100 lines but it worked unbelievable. The trouble is I lost it and as you said...can't remember how I ever spent the time doing it.
Wooden Tool Man Thanks Wayne, much appreciated comment, especially coming from you. it has turned out to be a timesaver, but the real profit would be for production work like you do. Thanks for watching and commenting
That is awesome!! So you must be an electrician at your day job. Before this video I figured you were a mechanic but by the look of these salvaged parts, you are in the electrical dept. I definitly want one of these!!
Shop built Thank you. You are correct, I work as an automation engineer in a factory producing wall panels, hence the easy access to discarded automation parts. I say go for the build:)
Tom Bennett Wow, thank you very very much for the generous comment. I am really happy that you enjoy the stuff I put out. Your interest is inspiring to do more projects
Roy.....that is INSANELY cool! Absolutely love the cut list function, would be awesome to have since I design everything in sketchup and make a cut list anyway....no measuring incorrectly, writing wrong number or forgetting the number! Do you foresee a problem with saw dust along the bottom of the track? No joke servo motor under there, what model? Just ordered several Kinetix 5500 drives for work yesterday, should be fun. Thanks for the shoutout, really appreciate it!
***** Thanks Ty, i am really happy with it this far. I tried the cutlist 4.1 plugin to generate the cutlist, and copy paste to notepad. had to do some editing though. Maybe there is another plugin that can make a text document? Are you thinking about the T-track that is recessed into the bench? That is from my old system with the manual scale and stop. It got clogged up constantly. About sawdust clogging up under the "pusher" I think its going to be ok. I raised it 3mm off the bench. it is an 20 year old Sanyo Denki BL030 with pulse/direction control. Single phase input and PI regulator on the pots in front. Easy to set up, and pretty strong. I have 2 similar on the CNC.Not sure of the holding torque on them. those kinetix are Ethernet controlled right? Mine are more like Moses`s Stone tablets compared to those. You are welcome, and thanks for the stuff.
If its worth doing, its worth overdoing :) will you be making an in depth video about the electronics and build? I for one would love that!! Awesome project, looking forward to the next video!!
Marfelt Thank you. Yes why not do something out of the box and with a little extra effort, maybe a little extra cool. thanks for watching and commenting
Hi ! I only saw your video yesterday as I want to do an automatic fence myself too. Great project. Thanks from a french guy. Next project will be inspired from your automated cnc table saw :-)
Brandus Lucian Multumesc pentru vizionarea, partajarea și comentarea. Proiectul a fost realizat în principal pentru a vedea dacă a fost posibil. De asemenea, funcționează foarte bine. S-ar putea face cu stepper și Arduino, dar poate o reducere de viteze sau similare, pentru a reduce pierderea de pași.
There is an option in Mach3 to calibrate your system. Check on which axis you have set your servo driver (X, Y, Z, A etc.). Use the calibration function under motor tuning, measure real distance travelled and correct this distance in the function. Voila, it should be dead on now within 0.05mm or better.
Awesome build, only thing that occurred to me is a back button would be good. So if i make a couple of cuts then want to repeat them with out creating a cut list i an just click back a few times and repeat.
Michael Mueller Thank you Michael. I figured a little with that option, but as the input in the target length window is a direct input DRO it has no memory of the past movement. I am sure smeone has an idea about how to solve it, and I would be happy to incorporate this function into the controls. i just dont have the knowledge to figure it out yet
Thanks. Unfortunately I have not written an article on this build. But it is mainly a custom made screenset made for the mach3 cnc softwrae. Single axis on a cheapo usb mach3 control card off ebay. Linear rail with belt and pulley for mechanical, and servomotor for motion.
Mike Kapotsy The drive motor is the essential thing here. It would not make sense to buy this kind of motor and all the acc. In that case it would be better to buy a commecially made system. If you can get your hands on a decent motor and drive, one could also build it with other guide system than a linearrail and carriages. Thanks for the kind comments
OMG! That's Soooo Cooool Sir. I also want to build something like this i have an idea about CNC and using mach3 usb controller but the mach3 screen programing is the hard part, do you have any video on the commands each button uses? or maybe a reference on it? thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for the kind feedback. Unfortunately there are no video about the coding in detail. But the users of the on the machsupport forum are very helpful. I used the free mach screen editor by Klaus. It is easy to use,, Good luck on your project
Tim Holiner Thank you Tim. One would have to be able to provide the builder with readily available parts withing a reasonable cost( which I think might be hard)and since all my parts are salvaged I just built it around what I had. But if anyone want any info, Ill ry to provide it at to the best of my knowledge. thanks for watching and commenting
its awesome i really needed something like that for my table saw.i have built 3 axis cnc machine before but for this one coudnt know what to use as interface.but what i wonder how you set it up when you press start buton it just making one movement and waiting for your next? i mean which oem code is making it work for working step by step.
Awesome awesome awesome. I am kind of new to your site do you have a build video / parts list of this? Also the software program did you design and code it yourself and is it available for sale? ONE HELL OF A JOB!!!
robertp7220 Thanks a lot for the generous words, it is much appreciated. I do not have a build video on this, neither a parts list. I got all parts for free as I saved them from the dump at work. Linear rail and carriages, servo motor and drive, ald laptop, old touch screen monitor, timing belt and pulley. I had to buy the control driver board off ebay at 8-9 usd. the software is mach 3 cnc software from www.machsupport.com. It is fully customizable so i made a new screenset with the functions I wanted and the graphics I made. I used the free demo version for this. It is fully functional, but can run a max of 1000 lines of code at once. but i dont have a cutlist with 1000 different oieces, so no problem. I do own a license for this software for the cnc. its not expensive. 150 usd ithink, bak in the days. now there is a new version called mach 4. have not ried it. the whole thing runs on the printer port. If you want you can have the screenset for free, no problem
Bellevue Woodshop is there anyway u can send me a copy of that screen set u made? I've built my own cnc router and I'm familiar with Mach 3 but never tried much customization other than adding plugins.
Just found your site, a first class one to be sure. I could not find any details about the Mach screen for your excellent chop saw stop in your site. Thanks.
+Glenn Kilgore They are 30mm Bosch Rexroth profiled linear bearing. They are a lot larger than they need to be, but I got them for free as they rebuilt a machine at work, I believe any profiled linear bearing above 20mm could be used. Check out ebay, the have lots of sellers supplying these out of china. I know Hiwin, are known to be good quality. but this kind of setup would work great with cheaper rails also i presume. thanks for watching and commenting Glenn
Would love to attempt my own build. Open to sharing your component list? Or are you trying to keep IP to yourself? Fantastic system. Jealous both of your skills and the access to parts you must have as an automation engineer!
Thanks for the kind feedback. Due to some copyright issues I am unfortunately not able to share any detail. Sorry about that. Yes sometimes there are some goodies to find. Thanks for watching and commenting, and good luck on your build.
absolutly awsome, any tips for the mach 3 screen designer or even a basic copy. i have the controller and stepper. as a project was going to be a cnc machine .. i think this will be a priority project.. so any info to guide me.. what is used as the lead screw ? threaded rod? cheers love your vids
This is a really awesome fence system you built and the mach screen you made looks great. I like that you made all of the parts out of wood but it looks like an aluminum extrusion, like the tiger stop. One question, does the rail in your table interface with the back stop block, or is that an old hold over from a manual fence system you had before? If it doesn't, is there any issue with the cantilever of the black stop block? I realize you did this so you can literally touch the blade with it and give you really small cuts as well, or zero it out. I saw that it deflected linearly from left to right but your feedback corrected its position, and because you're only hitting it in a worse case head on, that the fact that you're holding the stop block more to one side isn't an issue. Thanks again.
+briancnc Thank you very much. The rail/t-slot that is recessed in the table is from the old manual stop, and does not affect the automatic fence in any way.. The moving stop block is running aprox 2 mm above the table, most due to the fact that I did not want it to collect dust in front of it.I had to make it cantilevered to be able to make short cuts as you say. Its also beneficial to have it made from wood as I can kiss the blade with it. The closed loop system keeps the fence in correct position. Thanks for watching and commenting
Hey Great Job with the machine It looks amazing. I would like to know the programming side of this so I can do this for myself. The screen design and the VB script.
+mac patel Thank you very much for the kind comment. The control is based of open source Mach 3 software from artsoft. And I used Mach3 screen designer by Klaus Dietz to create the screen, and codes. It runs on a regular ebay, 5 axis parallel port card
Wow det er jo helt vildt! tror da næsten jeg ved hvad mit næste projekt skal være efter jeg er færdig med at bygge mit nye værksted. Kommer der en "Build video"?
Jakob Nørregaard Tusen takk Jakob. Det er bare å sette igang å samle deler:) Er ikke så mye bygging på denne, men mulig det kommer noe mere detaljer på websiden
Hi, just messaging a few people in the comments that said they might build one of these, have you started yet? Just trying get some info on parts and want to avoid reinventing the wheel.
Mark Hazlewood Thanks Mark. Making build videos normally forces one to make a prototype first, then make the build video. i tend to build stuff on the fly and making build videos are very time consuming, so I choose to do some of both. There might be a follw-up video if there is a demand. Some folks has asked for a more in-depth wiev of the controls and electronics
Another fantastic build - really impressive. Do you think a stepper motor, coupled with a magnetic fence locking mechanism would work? Or would backlash be a problem?
Ant Mallett Thank you very much. Now that sounds interesting. A magnetic lock would be cool to see. Are you familiar with such part. any links. It would be cool to see. I think if you get a stepper at a decent size no problem, ecspecially if you lock the fence you dont need a monster as you take the force on the locking fence, i like the idea. i see no problem with backlash on steppers as long as you dont loose steps, they are just as accurate as servos.
Bellevue Woodshop I was thinking that you could inlay a mild steel strip between the T-Track and the ruler, and attach a magnetic base (the lever operated type) to the fence. And then toggle the lever with a small RC servo. The only problem is added friction, which could be alleviated by running the mag lock on bearings. One possible problem is that if the magnet is too far above the steel strip, it might slam down and move the fence slightly. So perhaps a better idea is to use the servo to lower an electromagnet, and then energise said electromagnet to lock the fence.
Hi, this look amazing - great job! Please could you let me know what functions you used on the Klaus Dietz screen designer to set the actual length and the target length? Thanks!
Thank you Ben. Actual length is code is the actual axis DRO, in my cas X DRO, the target length is a user defined OEM code that gets picked up when the basic script is executed on the start button. If you have any problems getting this to work, you should visit the mach3 forum and ask somebody if they could help you with the script. They are very helpful over there
Hello, I am building a saw stop also. Would you part with a copy of your mach screen set. I would gladly pay for it and it would sure help on the learning curve. Great project, keep up the good work!
Thanks. Good luck on your build. Unfortunately I am not able to share the screenset due to some copyright issues. If you contact me through my website, I might have somebody that might help you with your screenset
What size servo motor are you using for the positioner? Also, what is the total length of travel that it is capable of? Lastly, is there anything different you would do or adding any other capabilities now that you have had quite some time to use it? Thanks again and as always...One Hell of a job!
Hi. I am not sure of the torque on this motor. Its a salvaged one so I am not sure of the specs. I built mine as long as my miter bench would allow, aprox 2000mm. If I was to change anything It would be to make acalibration bitton on the screen. I remove my saw sometimes for to bring to other jobs outside the house,and then It would be great to easily calibrate it. An adjustable reference switch or do it on the screen. Otherwise it has worked flawlessly. Thanks for the kind feedback and for commenting
Awesome system...Just curious, assume it's a digital servo and drive since Mach 3 is only step and direction... so are you running it straight from parallel port or through another control brain?Would you have been comfortable using stepper motors instead if you didn't have the parts already?Also, see you're using linear guides, a large, thick one which is very expensive... seems way overkill, what would you recommend to do the linear motion without being linear guides and blocks?Thanks
Thanks Claudio.Its an AC servo, and the controller is run either by step/direction from a cheap cnc controller board. This is run from a parallel port controlled by mach 3. The linear rail was salvaged from an old machine. Stepper can be used, but since it is not a closed loop system (unless you use an encoder for feedback) it can lose steps. However. If you get a powerful motor it is absolutely possible. A well built carriage built with bearings on tubular steel maybe?
Awesome job! I have been wanting to do this for awhile just want to make mine portable. Have you thought about running a gear reduction? It would slow down the positioned but give better holding torque and higher resolution.
Joshua Russell If you check out sawgear from tigerstop you can see their portable version. They are pricey though. I think a 10´ rail is about 3.5K. I run a 4:1 gear reduction on my cnc with the same servo. on my gantry, plus a 7:1 belt/pulley reduction to increase the torque and accuracy, but this doesnt have to stand up to the forces like on the heavy gantry. Thanks for watching and commenting Joshua
You are certainly correct on the price. Downloaded the patent for the SawGear and cant justify they cost. My thought is to run mine off a Arduino its just been a learning curve but I can always fall back to Mach3. Thanks again for the video
Nice design. I like the simple interface too. I have two questions: did you make the interface and what size timing belt is that? I have considered making a similar setup for a table saw, just not sure if I will ever follow through with it. Thanks for sharing.
rhfabrication Thank you Sir. I made the interface based on the Mach 3 software from www.machsupport.com. It is open source and there are screendesigners to make one able to modify or make new screens. but I built this from scratch and I put ALOT of hours into it and to tweak it. The timing belt is AT-5 I believe, zero backlash belt, but not completely sure as I saved it from the trash at work along with the pulleys. It would be just as useful on a tablesaw as on the chop saw. i saay go for it:)
Thanks José. Unfortunately this is a one of a kind, built for my own private use only, But there are commercially units available, but they are pretty expensive
I used a USB controller from Probotix, but they don't carry that any more. I'm looking at Smoothstepper USB (I'm going to try running this from a windows tablet) and Mach3 for this next build. What are you using?
+Ray Jorgensen Nice. I am using an old laptop with parallel port, running win xp, and a touch screen. The screen is custom made, and I spent a HUGE amount of time creating it. But it was kinda educational also. Problem is, I have not used the screen designer since i made this, and has swapped the memory capacity in my brain for something else. In other words....I forgot it:)
Thanks, glad you liked it. Yes I use Machscreen editor, and just made another custom screen for my new automated table saw: th-cam.com/video/Yft8yBKOPAE/w-d-xo.html
@@bellevuesnekkeri ya, I found some on Amazon but I don’t know much about belt strength or how to figure out which one to buy. I think I’m going to go with a 20mm wide steel reinforced belt and hope it works. I wish learning this stuff was easier.
@@bellevuesnekkeri thanks. Thinking about making a fence for my dewalt stand. Have some drill motors lying around and a few encoders, thought I might make a servo out of it. Is that mach 3 you are using?
I would love to try and make one. Are you able to publish any plans for this? Or would there be a copy-writ violation? Loved the video, keep up the good work. 😺👏
+Harry Wright I say go for it Harry. I am not going to make plans for this one. Beacause it is made solely from old salvaged parts. Most of these, are not available anymore, and spending time searching for parst to make complete plans, just takes to much time. The amount of people wanting to take on a project like these are not to large either
+Mahmoud Shehata Hi. Unfortunately I do not have any details on the size of the motors, and the torque they provide. They are salvaged from an old production machine. The motor i mounted to the shaft with a flex coupling. and the plywood motormount can be seen at 8:00
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SO cool! Roy, you never cease to amaze me :)
All that and a touch screen too!
John Heisz Thanks John. Glad you find the stuff interesting. I was starting on a woodworking project (yes actual woodworking:):) when this idea came to mind, and you know......once you start thinking about a project like this......The touchscreen was aslo saved from a dumpster at work along with all the other parts. The servo motor is close to 20 years old, and I have had it laying at my place at least 10 yrs since i dragged it home. Love it when old stuff can be reused, especially for homemade tools. thansk for watching and for the kind compliment
Bellevue Woodshop
Brilliant idea. You make me to make this to my workshop. thanks for sharing. Would it be working with common stepper motor? like larger nema 23? thanks.
All the shop projects you build are ingenious designs, with ridiculously clever functionality... but this one really just blows my mind. man you are one smart & really creative dude! Awesome and amazing!!
Stew Pidass Thanks Stew. i appreciate you taking the time to watch my stuff, and glad you like. Thanks a lot for watching, commenting and for the very generous words. it is much appreciated
You might be right about the overkill for the average shop, but that was awesome. I didn't know about this device. Thank you for sharing your time and skills with us.
Jared English Thanks Jared, glad you liked it and thanks for watching and commenting. you can chesk out the origianl one. google sawgear or tigerstop
That is super awesome! Something I need to make for my shop.
Jer's Woodshop Thank you. I say go for it:)
It's amazing how much cool stuff there is in the world! Useless in my shop though, I'd just play with it and never cut a thing! "How far can I shoot this can across the shop..."
Mario Cappellano He he, incoming......chisel!!!!
WOW!! Mathias was saying how smart he was fixing a axe handle...you are really smart!!!
Bid Budy Thanks, both interesting and maybe overengineered projects, but fun all in all. And Matthias Wandel is one switched on dude
It even sounds like it's roaring when it moves!
***** It actually does.....never thought of that. coolfactor:)
This is one of the coolest things I've seen in the world of TH-cam woodworking!
+Paul J Kimberlee Thank you very much for the generous comment Paul. It is much appreciated. thanks for watching and commenting
GREAT JOB & I'm following your CNC build. Many years ago I designed a EXCEL spreadsheet that spit out a full cutlist for a green design I made. It was about 1100 lines but it worked unbelievable. The trouble is I lost it and as you said...can't remember how I ever spent the time doing it.
Thanks Bruce
That is insane cool! I'd love to have one of these for my cabinet shop. For door manufacturing it would be sweet.
Wooden Tool Man Thanks Wayne, much appreciated comment, especially coming from you. it has turned out to be a timesaver, but the real profit would be for production work like you do. Thanks for watching and commenting
That is awesome!! So you must be an electrician at your day job. Before this video I figured you were a mechanic but by the look of these salvaged parts, you are in the electrical dept. I definitly want one of these!!
Shop built Thank you. You are correct, I work as an automation engineer in a factory producing wall panels, hence the easy access to discarded automation parts. I say go for the build:)
Now that's nice. Tommy Silva uses one like it on TOH. on PBS.Thanks for the video.
Backyard Woodworking Thanks for watching. I`ll call Silva and dare him to a cutting race:)
I've got one built with lead screw but at 8' supports to keep the screw from whipping was a challenge!!!!!! I like your design and the speed!!!
+Ray Jorgensen I checked it out on your channel. Looks very good. what do you use to control it?
got to say that you are a modern day genius. i look forward to your videos with relish and to see how amazed i will be at your next bit of wizardry.
Tom Bennett Wow, thank you very very much for the generous comment. I am really happy that you enjoy the stuff I put out. Your interest is inspiring to do more projects
Well sir you have inspired myself. Would love to see your spin on a wood lathe if you ever tackle it
Tom Bennett I am not much of a turner. Although I am fiddeling with the idea of a cnc lathe build.. have the parts laying around, but not the time
i wait with baited breath for the finished article. thanks
So cool! definitely got some bragging rights now. I would definitely like to add that on to my miter station.
+Bradley Johnson Thank you for the kind feedback Bradley. It works great
Maybe overkill for most home workshops, but also so very cool! I would save tons of time with some projects if I had this. Great build!
Fredrik J Thanks Fredrik, I like coolfactor, and it eliminates measuring and marking errors.
Love the project.
Wow , I made one of these without the digital input ( just a forward & back switch with digital read out )
This is so good
hurtinbombs Sweet, that pretty much do the same thing. Do you have any images of it? it would be interesting to see.
Roy.....that is INSANELY cool! Absolutely love the cut list function, would be awesome to have since I design everything in sketchup and make a cut list anyway....no measuring incorrectly, writing wrong number or forgetting the number! Do you foresee a problem with saw dust along the bottom of the track? No joke servo motor under there, what model? Just ordered several Kinetix 5500 drives for work yesterday, should be fun.
Thanks for the shoutout, really appreciate it!
***** Thanks Ty, i am really happy with it this far. I tried the cutlist 4.1 plugin to generate the cutlist, and copy paste to notepad. had to do some editing though. Maybe there is another plugin that can make a text document?
Are you thinking about the T-track that is recessed into the bench? That is from my old system with the manual scale and stop. It got clogged up constantly. About sawdust clogging up under the "pusher" I think its going to be ok. I raised it 3mm off the bench. it is an 20 year old Sanyo Denki BL030 with pulse/direction control. Single phase input and PI regulator on the pots in front. Easy to set up, and pretty strong. I have 2 similar on the CNC.Not sure of the holding torque on them. those kinetix are Ethernet controlled right? Mine are more like Moses`s Stone tablets compared to those.
You are welcome, and thanks for the stuff.
***** Infusion:)
It's annoying how smart he is to be able to build these systems. SMH.
Great job!
Glad you like it....or do you :):) Thanks👍
If its worth doing, its worth overdoing :) will you be making an in depth video about the electronics and build? I for one would love that!! Awesome project, looking forward to the next video!!
Marfelt Thank you. Yes why not do something out of the box and with a little extra effort, maybe a little extra cool. thanks for watching and commenting
Wow , you got so much cool stuff in your shop . I can't keep up with the vids . But this one is so cool . Thanks for sharing Jasper .
Jasper Ijpelaar Thanks alot Jasper, glad you find it interesting. keep watching, and I will keep posting
Hi ! I only saw your video yesterday as I want to do an automatic fence myself too. Great project. Thanks from a french guy. Next project will be inspired from your automated cnc table saw :-)
Thanks for watching and commenting SIr. Glad you found it inspirational, and all the best on your future build😀😀👍
NICE! Engineering meets Woodworking 🥳
Thanks Kristian, glad you liked it
I like your Houston, Texas shirt. Thanks for your videos.
This setup is quite brilliant!
Thanks Jacob
hot darn, this is what i call overkill. Nicely done, though, as always !
keep on trucking !
Celmar Thanks, A little extra sometimes give some extra reward. Glad you liked it. Truck on
I've been thinking about building one of these, can you show a video of how you built it and the programming of it?
I am thoroughly impressed!
Stoffer Thanks, glad you liked it
Brandus Lucian Multumesc pentru vizionarea, partajarea și comentarea. Proiectul a fost realizat în principal pentru a vedea dacă a fost posibil. De asemenea, funcționează foarte bine. S-ar putea face cu stepper și Arduino, dar poate o reducere de viteze sau similare, pentru a reduce pierderea de pași.
wow, really cool ... especially in repetitive cuts.
R Tavares Thanks, yes it helps on those nasty measuring errors
There is an option in Mach3 to calibrate your system. Check on which axis you have set your servo driver (X, Y, Z, A etc.). Use the calibration function under motor tuning, measure real distance travelled and correct this distance in the function. Voila, it should be dead on now within 0.05mm or better.
Wow, this is stinking sweet! So cool.
Incredible job! You amaze us every time!
phooesnax Thank you for the kind words. It is much appreciated
I would love a copy of the screen set, I would like to make a similar fence for the router table and the customer fearure would work well
Awesome build, only thing that occurred to me is a back button would be good. So if i make a couple of cuts then want to repeat them with out creating a cut list i an just click back a few times and repeat.
Michael Mueller Thank you Michael. I figured a little with that option, but as the input in the target length window is a direct input DRO it has no memory of the past movement. I am sure smeone has an idea about how to solve it, and I would be happy to incorporate this function into the controls. i just dont have the knowledge to figure it out yet
Thank you for showing this. Would you mind sharing the Mach 3 screenset?
Hi. thank you for watching. Due to some copyright issues I am not able to share it unfortunately. Sorry about that
Nothing less than awesome!
Ostap1974 Thank you very much for the kind comment
Wonderful invention
Ali Radhwan Thank you very much
You're welcome any time
Great work, Roy! Thank You. Any possibility about getting more info on this? I'd like to build one
Thanks. Unfortunately I have not written an article on this build. But it is mainly a custom made screenset made for the mach3 cnc softwrae. Single axis on a cheapo usb mach3 control card off ebay. Linear rail with belt and pulley for mechanical, and servomotor for motion.
Love it! Not sure I could build it but seems pretty cool!
Mike Kapotsy The drive motor is the essential thing here. It would not make sense to buy this kind of motor and all the acc. In that case it would be better to buy a commecially made system.
If you can get your hands on a decent motor and drive, one could also build it with other guide system than a linearrail and carriages. Thanks for the kind comments
OMG! That's Soooo Cooool Sir. I also want to build something like this i have an idea about CNC and using mach3 usb controller but the mach3 screen programing is the hard part, do you have any video on the commands each button uses? or maybe a reference on it? thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for the kind feedback. Unfortunately there are no video about the coding in detail. But the users of the on the machsupport forum are very helpful. I used the free mach screen editor by Klaus. It is easy to use,, Good luck on your project
@@bellevuesnekkeri Thank you Sir, I'll Do a bit more research . hehe thanks again.
Can we download your screen set somewhere?
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing!
Evangelos Himonides Thank you very much
Amazing! You should make plans available. I would definitely pay for them!
Tim Holiner Thank you Tim. One would have to be able to provide the builder with readily available parts withing a reasonable cost( which I think might be hard)and since all my parts are salvaged I just built it around what I had. But if anyone want any info, Ill ry to provide it at to the best of my knowledge. thanks for watching and commenting
just so awesome!!!! Thanks for your share!!!
Thank you for watching Sir
its awesome i really needed something like that for my table saw.i have built 3 axis cnc machine before but for this one coudnt know what to use as interface.but what i wonder how you set it up when you press start buton it just making one movement and waiting for your next? i mean which oem code is making it work for working step by step.
Awesome awesome awesome. I am kind of new to your site do you have a build video / parts list of this? Also the software program did you design and code it yourself and is it available for sale?
ONE HELL OF A JOB!!!
robertp7220 Thanks a lot for the generous words, it is much appreciated. I do not have a build video on this, neither a parts list. I got all parts for free as I saved them from the dump at work. Linear rail and carriages, servo motor and drive, ald laptop, old touch screen monitor, timing belt and pulley. I had to buy the control driver board off ebay at 8-9 usd. the software is mach 3 cnc software from www.machsupport.com. It is fully customizable so i made a new screenset with the functions I wanted and the graphics I made. I used the free demo version for this. It is fully functional, but can run a max of 1000 lines of code at once. but i dont have a cutlist with 1000 different oieces, so no problem. I do own a license for this software for the cnc. its not expensive. 150 usd ithink, bak in the days. now there is a new version called mach 4. have not ried it. the whole thing runs on the printer port.
If you want you can have the screenset for free, no problem
Bellevue Woodshop is there anyway u can send me a copy of that screen set u made? I've built my own cnc router and I'm familiar with Mach 3 but never tried much customization other than adding plugins.
Super Cool... Love the setup...
Thanks Randy, it has served me well
How did you do this? It's insane!! Did u make the program yourself??
sooo cool!!!!
Thanks Paul, glad you liked it👍😄
Bellevue Woodshop problem is... now I want one!!!!!
Just found your site, a first class one to be sure. I could not find any details about the Mach screen for your excellent chop saw stop in your site.
Thanks.
Thank you very much
GET OUT! Dude that's Epic!
hassleoffa Thanks, glad you liked it
Great video, lovely work, neat device.
Clever stuff...
Thanks, it works great, and is probably one of the most use contraptions in my shop
haha. fancy! this would make me want to do cuts just to do cuts:) it would make one heck of a aligned firewood stack for winter tho;) nice build.
woodbeach Best looking and most accurate firewood stack in town:)
Could you share more detail on the linear bearing you used
Great build
+Glenn Kilgore They are 30mm Bosch Rexroth profiled linear bearing. They are a lot larger than they need to be, but I got them for free as they rebuilt a machine at work, I believe any profiled linear bearing above 20mm could be used. Check out ebay, the have lots of sellers supplying these out of china. I know Hiwin, are known to be good quality. but this kind of setup would work great with cheaper rails also i presume. thanks for watching and commenting Glenn
Wow, this is great!! I always enjoy your videos. Thanks!
Robert Mazzitelli Thanks alot Robert
This is awesome. Great job!
Thank you Mark, It works great
Can i buy a copy of the screen set
Loved it! It's awesome!
João Pedro Cabral Thank you Sir
Very very Cool!!!
Diego Valdevino Thank you Diego
muy bueno. eso adelanta mucho trabajo.
Fran Qs Muchas gracias. gracias por compartir el video
Would love to attempt my own build. Open to sharing your component list? Or are you trying to keep IP to yourself? Fantastic system. Jealous both of your skills and the access to parts you must have as an automation engineer!
Thanks for the kind feedback. Due to some copyright issues I am unfortunately not able to share any detail. Sorry about that. Yes sometimes there are some goodies to find. Thanks for watching and commenting, and good luck on your build.
This is freaking awesome!!!
G.Work.Specials Thanks, glad you liked it, and thanks for watching
absolutly awsome, any tips for the mach 3 screen designer or even a basic copy. i have the controller and stepper. as a project was going to be a cnc machine .. i think this will be a priority project.. so any info to guide me.. what is used as the lead screw ? threaded rod?
cheers love your vids
DANG!! THAT is cool!
ladedk Thanks, glad you liked it, and thankss for watching
My Gooood you are so good!!!
Rubén Bressán Thanks a lot for the generous words Rubèn, it is much appreciated. Glad you liked it
You don´t have a woodshop, you have a LAB!!
This is a really awesome fence system you built and the mach screen you made looks great. I like that you made all of the parts out of wood but it looks like an aluminum extrusion, like the tiger stop. One question, does the rail in your table interface with the back stop block, or is that an old hold over from a manual fence system you had before? If it doesn't, is there any issue with the cantilever of the black stop block? I realize you did this so you can literally touch the blade with it and give you really small cuts as well, or zero it out. I saw that it deflected linearly from left to right but your feedback corrected its position, and because you're only hitting it in a worse case head on, that the fact that you're holding the stop block more to one side isn't an issue. Thanks again.
+briancnc Thank you very much. The rail/t-slot that is recessed in the table is from the old manual stop, and does not affect the automatic fence in any way.. The moving stop block is running aprox 2 mm above the table, most due to the fact that I did not want it to collect dust in front of it.I had to make it cantilevered to be able to make short cuts as you say. Its also beneficial to have it made from wood as I can kiss the blade with it. The closed loop system keeps the fence in correct position. Thanks for watching and commenting
amazing can you share mach screen on this proyect?
Thanks. Unfortunately I am not able to share due to a copyright issue. Sorry about that
Hey Great Job with the machine It looks amazing. I would like to know the programming side of this so I can do this for myself. The screen design and the VB script.
+mac patel Thank you very much for the kind comment. The control is based of open source Mach 3 software from artsoft. And I used Mach3 screen designer by Klaus Dietz to create the screen, and codes. It runs on a regular ebay, 5 axis parallel port card
Very nice work you have done there! could you send me the screen set for Mach3? thanks
awesome.
Hi, great work, can you please tell me what OEM button used for target length to enter the value with out G0 ? thanks
Thanks. I used a user defined DRO, and the move button executes the move script
@@bellevuesnekkeri thanks for your time
amazing build! what about automated fence for the table saw?
+gil klar Thank you. Yup it would work great there also, and I still have 1 servo left.....hmmmm
Wow det er jo helt vildt! tror da næsten jeg ved hvad mit næste projekt skal være efter jeg er færdig med at bygge mit nye værksted. Kommer der en "Build video"?
Jakob Nørregaard Tusen takk Jakob. Det er bare å sette igang å samle deler:) Er ikke så mye bygging på denne, men mulig det kommer noe mere detaljer på websiden
***** Takk takk
Ser jeg from til! Og jep der er dansk, har det på samme måde, norsk er nemmere at læse end at forstå hehe.
Really cool. I am going to look at building one for my shop. Would you share your screen for Mach3?
Hi, just messaging a few people in the comments that said they might build one of these, have you started yet? Just trying get some info on parts and want to avoid reinventing the wheel.
Interesting project with great results. A better video would be to show HOW you built it.
Mark Hazlewood Thanks Mark. Making build videos normally forces one to make a prototype first, then make the build video. i tend to build stuff on the fly and making build videos are very time consuming, so I choose to do some of both. There might be a follw-up video if there is a demand. Some folks has asked for a more in-depth wiev of the controls and electronics
o,O now that is too cool!
Dan Robidoux Thanks Dan
very good ..do you have a all diy plans..Thank you..
jhon gris Thank you. Sorry no available plans for this project. Thanks for watching
Another fantastic build - really impressive. Do you think a stepper motor, coupled with a magnetic fence locking mechanism would work? Or would backlash be a problem?
Ant Mallett Thank you very much. Now that sounds interesting. A magnetic lock would be cool to see. Are you familiar with such part. any links. It would be cool to see. I think if you get a stepper at a decent size no problem, ecspecially if you lock the fence you dont need a monster as you take the force on the locking fence, i like the idea. i see no problem with backlash on steppers as long as you dont loose steps, they are just as accurate as servos.
Bellevue Woodshop I was thinking that you could inlay a mild steel strip between the T-Track and the ruler, and attach a magnetic base (the lever operated type) to the fence. And then toggle the lever with a small RC servo. The only problem is added friction, which could be alleviated by running the mag lock on bearings. One possible problem is that if the magnet is too far above the steel strip, it might slam down and move the fence slightly. So perhaps a better idea is to use the servo to lower an electromagnet, and then energise said electromagnet to lock the fence.
Hi, this look amazing - great job! Please could you let me know what functions you used on the Klaus Dietz screen designer to set the actual length and the target length? Thanks!
Thank you Ben. Actual length is code is the actual axis DRO, in my cas X DRO, the target length is a user defined OEM code that gets picked up when the basic script is executed on the start button. If you have any problems getting this to work, you should visit the mach3 forum and ask somebody if they could help you with the script. They are very helpful over there
Hello, I am building a saw stop also. Would you part with a copy of your mach screen set. I would gladly pay for it and it would sure help on the learning curve. Great project, keep up the good work!
Thanks. Good luck on your build. Unfortunately I am not able to share the screenset due to some copyright issues. If you contact me through my website, I might have somebody that might help you with your screenset
Kult, som du sa litt overdesigna til hjemmebruk. men såg ut som eit kjekt prosjekt og jobbe fram.
ToRe Takk, ja artig prosjekt.
What size servo motor are you using for the positioner? Also, what is the total length of travel that it is capable of? Lastly, is there anything different you would do or adding any other capabilities now that you have had quite some time to use it? Thanks again and as always...One Hell of a job!
Hi. I am not sure of the torque on this motor. Its a salvaged one so I am not sure of the specs. I built mine as long as my miter bench would allow, aprox 2000mm. If I was to change anything It would be to make acalibration bitton on the screen. I remove my saw sometimes for to bring to other jobs outside the house,and then It would be great to easily calibrate it. An adjustable reference switch or do it on the screen. Otherwise it has worked flawlessly. Thanks for the kind feedback and for commenting
Jøss. Noe slikt har jeg aldri sett før. Stilig!
***** Takk, overdesignet...kanskje, men det finnes jo komersielle versjoner, så noe nytte må det jo ha:) og ikke minst morro.
At det er morro er jo grunn nok i massevis! :) Og når du først har den på plass så er det jo praktisk også.
Awesome system...Just curious, assume it's a digital servo and drive since Mach 3 is only step and direction... so are you running it straight from parallel port or through another control brain?Would you have been comfortable using stepper motors instead if you didn't have the parts already?Also, see you're using linear guides, a large, thick one which is very expensive... seems way overkill, what would you recommend to do the linear motion without being linear guides and blocks?Thanks
Thanks Claudio.Its an AC servo, and the controller is run either by step/direction from a cheap cnc controller board. This is run from a parallel port controlled by mach 3. The linear rail was salvaged from an old machine. Stepper can be used, but since it is not a closed loop system (unless you use an encoder for feedback) it can lose steps. However. If you get a powerful motor it is absolutely possible. A well built carriage built with bearings on tubular steel maybe?
Det er noget af det sejeste jeg har set meget længe :) This is one of the coolest things i have seen in a long time :D
Michael Pedersen Tusen takk, fedt at du likte det Thanks, glad you liked it, and thanks for watching Michael
Awesome job! I have been wanting to do this for awhile just want to make mine portable. Have you thought about running a gear reduction? It would slow down the positioned but give better holding torque and higher resolution.
Joshua Russell If you check out sawgear from tigerstop you can see their portable version. They are pricey though. I think a 10´ rail is about 3.5K. I run a 4:1 gear reduction on my cnc with the same servo. on my gantry, plus a 7:1 belt/pulley reduction to increase the torque and accuracy, but this doesnt have to stand up to the forces like on the heavy gantry. Thanks for watching and commenting Joshua
You are certainly correct on the price. Downloaded the patent for the SawGear and cant justify they cost. My thought is to run mine off a Arduino its just been a learning curve but I can always fall back to Mach3. Thanks again for the video
+Joshua Russell did you ever get to your sawgear Arduino make? I'm wanting to do the same thing
Hi Roy
Where did you get all material I need to make one like that
Hi Jerry. I have salvaged them during many years at my dayjob, when we dismantle😄👍 old woodworking machines
Nice design. I like the simple interface too. I have two questions: did you make the interface and what size timing belt is that? I have considered making a similar setup for a table saw, just not sure if I will ever follow through with it.
Thanks for sharing.
rhfabrication Thank you Sir. I made the interface based on the Mach 3 software from www.machsupport.com. It is open source and there are screendesigners to make one able to modify or make new screens. but I built this from scratch and I put ALOT of hours into it and to tweak it. The timing belt is AT-5 I believe, zero backlash belt, but not completely sure as I saved it from the trash at work along with the pulleys. It would be just as useful on a tablesaw as on the chop saw. i saay go for it:)
I love the system you build and I need a similar solution. Do you sell those systems?
Thanks José. Unfortunately this is a one of a kind, built for my own private use only, But there are commercially units available, but they are pretty expensive
Hi do you sell the modified software of Mach3 ? looks amazing
I used a USB controller from Probotix, but they don't carry that any more. I'm looking at Smoothstepper USB (I'm going to try running this from a windows tablet) and Mach3 for this next build. What are you using?
+Ray Jorgensen Nice. I am using an old laptop with parallel port, running win xp, and a touch screen. The screen is custom made, and I spent a HUGE amount of time creating it. But it was kinda educational also. Problem is, I have not used the screen designer since i made this, and has swapped the memory capacity in my brain for something else. In other words....I forgot it:)
Nice job as usual! Fun to watch. Do you use "Machscreen" to customize the interface?
Thanks, glad you liked it. Yes I use Machscreen editor, and just made another custom screen for my new automated table saw: th-cam.com/video/Yft8yBKOPAE/w-d-xo.html
Where would I get the belt and gears? I think I have the stepper and power supply I’m buying. I don’t know enough about belts yet.
I do not know where you live, but if you cannot get it locally I would try someplace online like ebay or aliexpress
@@bellevuesnekkeri ya, I found some on Amazon but I don’t know much about belt strength or how to figure out which one to buy. I think I’m going to go with a 20mm wide steel reinforced belt and hope it works. I wish learning this stuff was easier.
did you use an encoder for the positioning or is it based on steps alone?
Well must be encoder based since bumping the fence has little effect on position?
You are correct, it is a closed loop servo
@@bellevuesnekkeri thanks. Thinking about making a fence for my dewalt stand. Have some drill motors lying around and a few encoders, thought I might make a servo out of it. Is that mach 3 you are using?
Sounds fun. Yes Mach 3 shell, custom made screenset
@@bellevuesnekkeri thanks. I'll let you know how it goes
I would love to try and make one. Are you able to publish any plans for this? Or would there be a copy-writ violation?
Loved the video, keep up the good work.
😺👏
+Harry Wright I say go for it Harry. I am not going to make plans for this one. Beacause it is made solely from old salvaged parts. Most of these, are not available anymore, and spending time searching for parst to make complete plans, just takes to much time. The amount of people wanting to take on a project like these are not to large either
Awesome! Does it do standard (inches)? Would love to have my class make this for the wood shop!
ktshoema1 Thank you. it can be set up to do both imperial and metric
that is great. four sail?
Thank you Matt. This is one of a kind, so I think I will keep it:)
Very cool..
Can you buy servo and controller kits etc?
Thanks, I used salvaged parts.
do you have more details about how you mount the servo and how big is it and all?
+Mahmoud Shehata Hi. Unfortunately I do not have any details on the size of the motors, and the torque they provide. They are salvaged from an old production machine. The motor i mounted to the shaft with a flex coupling. and the plywood motormount can be seen at 8:00
+Bellevue Woodshop Looks a lot like the carriage on my 3D printer, but the scale is just way bigger.
Very interesting. Thanks