How tiny Lesotho turned into Africa’s water tower

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  • @CaspianReport
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      @finnhooper9042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      THIS is what I originally subscribed to Caspian Report for - geopolitical analysis of lesser known issues around the world, NOT repeated coverage of the most trending and hot button topics in the media. It's been sad seeing this channel move away from that as time went on. Hopefully we see more attention given to stuff like this, as opposed to more bandwagon programming. If people need to hear about those popular topics, they can just turn on the news and listen to the mainstream media.

    • @matrixfull
      @matrixfull ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While investments helped Lesotho a bit you have to keep in mind that for South Africa this option was still incredibly cheap and forced. By interfering in inner affairs of Lesotho ..they made bargening position for Lesotho way worse than it should've been. Also just because South Africa needs water that doesn't make their neigbour obligated to give their water to them. There are natural limits to how much population can be sustained at any given place. We should learn to respect those.

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History ปีที่แล้ว +893

    Used to teach someone from Lesotho. The stories he'd tell showed how shockingly low the standard of living was. The LHWP has been such a sad plundering

    • @markmakallister4653
      @markmakallister4653 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lols, I hope you weren't teaching him English. Also, lols, you were shocked by the standard of living in Africa?? This water project is nothing but a good thing for this region. Energy independence for Lesotho as well as water rights payments...a secure water source for South Africa. Plundering? This water project prevents South Africa from annexing Lesotho. "Plundering"...what a revealing comment. I bet you are an environmental zealot...any handprint of man on the land is pollution, or some other cult-like delusion.

    • @lsb42
      @lsb42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Mr Mitchell, Thanks for the Jordies vid

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Lesotho is bad but Eswatini is worse in my opinion. At least in Lesotho they have a constitution that guarantees certain rights, enshrines democracy and heavily limits the authority of the monarchy (relatively speaking). Their literacy is actually surprisingly high at around 75%. Job opportunities simply don't exist there unfortunately. The corruption of the state and its sheer inability to fight poverty can be seen tenfold in Eswatini. Not only is the poverty worse but the people don't really have many rights and "democracy" in Eswatini is a complete sham. The legislature is filled with the King's relatives and acts as his rubber stamp.
      In a country of 1.2 million people there are 12 ambulances. (1 per 100,000). Wealth is concentrated in the hands of around 15000 people, including many South Africans and British who profit heavily from the borderline slave labour conditions for workers in the country. The king takes 8% of annual income for 'official expenses' and the security force get 5% , as do the armed forces.
      As a South African I think it is an absolute disgrace. But I digress.

    • @jonspengler5891
      @jonspengler5891 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is this any different from any of the garbage govts on this continent

    • @ReySchultz121
      @ReySchultz121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrttripz3236 You got a link i can watch?
      I'd actually like to watch someone talk about that for 30 minutes.

  • @caven7056
    @caven7056 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    As a south african I'm very happy to confirm that I couldn't have explained this better. Lesotho and South Africa have a very delicate relationship even going beyond the water projects. You did an amazing job. Congratulations

    • @archipiratta
      @archipiratta ปีที่แล้ว +15

      SA is exploiting that tiny country. 8 dams my guy? 8 dams?! Well dayum!

    • @tebohosefali173
      @tebohosefali173 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lesotho is being exploited by South Africa. And my biggest fear is war between these two nations in the future.

    • @DragonsAndDragons777
      @DragonsAndDragons777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tebohosefali173 Yes true, it would affect many Boere

    • @bafanamahlatse1923
      @bafanamahlatse1923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tebohosefali173you think Lesotho would want war with south Africa.a country that has a population that is 30 times larger

  • @andrewrockwell1282
    @andrewrockwell1282 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    "The people reaping the benefits are not the same as those bearing the costs" is a reoccurring problem around the world.

  • @williammokoena494
    @williammokoena494 ปีที่แล้ว +669

    You absolutely killed it with this one man. Its very rare seeing such high quality content discussing this topic on TH-cam. The geopolitics of South Africa (my home country) and Lesotho (my family ancestral home) are an interesting case study showing the political theatre of Southern Africa.
    Complete fire🔥🔥

    • @dr.floridaman4805
      @dr.floridaman4805 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Elon musk is the greatest African to ever be born.

    • @lookingforsomething
      @lookingforsomething ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@dr.floridaman4805 I'd argue Freddie Mercury, but truth be told the people responsible for single payer access health care (something US is still struggling to achieve despite being the richest country in the world) in Rwanda are way up there.

    • @williammokoena494
      @williammokoena494 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dr.floridaman4805 challenge excepted

    • @realAjWelgemoed
      @realAjWelgemoed ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey I also live in South Africa

    • @lawrencevanafrika9898
      @lawrencevanafrika9898 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, would love to see him to do more in the region.

  • @jms3827
    @jms3827 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Used to live in South Africa. Quite interesting to see how I overlooked the value of Lesotho to South Africa and its geopolitics.

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I'm sure you bearly knew anything about Lesotho other then where it was on a map and it's name. As I sure haven't. All my years living in sa, this is the first thing iv come across anything about then

    • @kabeloreid7586
      @kabeloreid7586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ja...we just take them for granted. Very sad.

    • @bustavonnutz
      @bustavonnutz ปีที่แล้ว +17

      To be fair, if it wasn't for their water they'd be as irrelevant as Eswatini.

    • @spookypants9621
      @spookypants9621 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bustavonnutz bruuuuu😂 that's such a violation

    • @bustavonnutz
      @bustavonnutz ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@spookypants9621 Sorry, I'm just being real fam, in geopolitics being irrelevant is sometimes a good thing 👀

  • @jsteinman
    @jsteinman ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I’m a South African, and worked for one of the companies that did prepatory work for the next main phase, which is about to start. This video is surprisingly well done and accurate. Lesotho is a truly beautiful kingdom. SA’s population would not survive without its water and the scheme is quite controversial because it is widely known to the people of Lesotho (based on my interaction with locals) as to how it was born.

    • @agent9809
      @agent9809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why does not South Africa offer Lesotho and Eswatini to be annexed or just merged into just one country ? They are after all surrounded territorial by South Africa Plus are English speaking neighboring countries/ nations

    • @evertonbouwer4038
      @evertonbouwer4038 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@agent9809 I agree.It would be to everyone's benefit.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@agent9809 both have pretty interesting histories which you should check out. my controversial opinion would be that they are the only 2 kingdoms that survived in what is now south africa - there should've been other independent countries like them as well (the Zulu Kingdom/Tswanaland/a type of unified Xhosa kingdom)

    • @Me63422
      @Me63422 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lm_b5080 That's fair, funnily enough the apartheid government was sort of stating to do that with the homelands. I doubt a unified Zulu Xhosa kingdom would have worked, I know they're the most similar, but I don't really see them playing nicely. Then again South Africa is a much bigger melting pot.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Me63422 its pretty crazy how far-reaching the decisions of leaders can be. The Zulu king/xhosa leaders prob could've negotiated territory sovereignty with the British at some point; and the history of our country would've been something entirely different

  • @kisarunihofmannndosi5327
    @kisarunihofmannndosi5327 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    How refreshing to watch something economically interesting, rather unbiased and well researched from an African country. I'm sure many people learned something new about the world, which they otherwise wouldn't. This is why I'm a long time subscriber!

  • @smandan7825
    @smandan7825 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Those Mountains, Rivers, Plateus, Streams are My Home. Haaeso Lesotho 🇱🇸❤️✊🏿😀

    • @stratofotress7723
      @stratofotress7723 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mxm😑 hake nahana high school haona geography teacher e ile ya itlama ka this history😂

  • @engineeringscience8329
    @engineeringscience8329 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Thank you Caspian for talking about Africa.

  • @mohlomimoleleki9754
    @mohlomimoleleki9754 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is an amazing video. As someone that is from Lesotho and lives here, I can tell you, you absolutely nailed this! Nailed it! I had no idea that the payments are not subject to inflation! This is unbelievable! Construction on the Polihali dam has begun and things are going smoothly. I hope things change so that the basotho people can enjoy the benefits of this water in the long run.

    • @arraiacc
      @arraiacc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maybe try speaking to your local government and educate community members to get involved.

    • @FootprintsOfAfrica910
      @FootprintsOfAfrica910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I highly doubt anything will upon the completion of the Polihali dam. The corruption amongst the government officials is mind-blowing. If left unchecked, the situation might worsen for Basotho, only a select few will benefit. The rest will be forced to make due with scraps.

    • @joelmotsoahaemotsoahae9541
      @joelmotsoahaemotsoahae9541 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is research by Clive Vinti, a PhD candidate in Environmental Law. He investigates how that treaty has enabled South Africa to take over Lesotho's water resources. he describes that treaty as "HYDROCOLONISATION." Now I can understand why? the price of water that we sell to South Africa is below the market value.

    • @pontsocoetzee3690
      @pontsocoetzee3690 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joelmotsoahaemotsoahae9541this political leaders are such cowards and all they care about is enrichment of their own pockets but don't care about us at all..how can they not include inflation in the sale of water or at least include a clause that allows for an amendment should there be a need but it's like their level of thinking is way shocking hence why RSA took advantage of that situation I mean I don't blame them. The only wise leader Lesotho ever had was king Moshoeshoe who truly cared for his people and instead of his own pockets

  • @kabeloignatiusmosala9769
    @kabeloignatiusmosala9769 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Look at that, I'm 1st here. And I am actually in Lesotho right now. 🇱🇸🇱🇸🇱🇸

  • @thari_za
    @thari_za ปีที่แล้ว +282

    CaspianReport's pronunciation of Sotho names and place is not that bad🙌🏾

    • @RowanHumphreys
      @RowanHumphreys ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maseru was wild, but the rest seemed good

    • @undefinedvariable8085
      @undefinedvariable8085 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gow-teng though ...

    • @kelvinbrown8136
      @kelvinbrown8136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just came here for this comment!

    • @thari_za
      @thari_za ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair Gauteng is Tswana not Sotho😂

    • @nellym46664
      @nellym46664 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thari_za Honestly, the only difference between Sotho and Tswana is the 'g' & 'h' sounds. e.g. Khosi-Kgosi or Katleho-Katlego. Any Sotho could easily hold a conversation with a Tswana.

  • @everythingandmo377
    @everythingandmo377 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for making this video. My parents are from Lesotho & my most of my family is still there. It breaks my heart to see what has been done to such a great nation.

  • @randomperson6988
    @randomperson6988 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Lesser known topics like these are great. Probably some of my favorite videos

  • @ntateMarete
    @ntateMarete ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One very significant mineral deposit that you did not mention, is DIAMONDS.

  • @ThabeloChrisMakhele
    @ThabeloChrisMakhele ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I am a Mosotho, ask me something and I will answer. This was well researched but more needs to be done!

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi, so nice to meet you. Do u think it would help to guive mountanous land (with the info and financing tech to farm and graize on it) would help?

    • @rizkifauzi7048
      @rizkifauzi7048 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Has Lesotho ever considering to join South Africa?

    • @TheSwedishHistorian
      @TheSwedishHistorian ปีที่แล้ว +7

      how do you see South Africa?

    • @kyakrogejaanke4965
      @kyakrogejaanke4965 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How's the living standard there?

    • @ntateMarete
      @ntateMarete ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rizkifauzi7048 Not since the 1800s. Actually let me correct that, NO! Not since the 1800s and definetly not now!

  • @scudza2000
    @scudza2000 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As a South African, I had no idea about any of this. Thanks for the great video!

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. Like when do qe speak about Lesotho

    • @biggeststeppa1
      @biggeststeppa1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's propaganda, don't fall for it. Big Water is funding this whole thing

  • @aqeelwilliams9798
    @aqeelwilliams9798 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So glad you covered these countries down on the southern tip of Africa! Never really knew this about Lesotho and SA, even as a native South African. Really love your work - always interesting, detailed and unbiased in analysis. 👌🏼

  • @kylejones893
    @kylejones893 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “In the damn basket” lol

  • @2bunphettered788
    @2bunphettered788 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lesotho must be a tough bunch to be able to exist as a landlock sovereign kingdom for so long. 💪

    • @trofiusnafuka6787
      @trofiusnafuka6787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah African countries hardly have megalomaniac conquerors

  • @tommymclaughlin-artist
    @tommymclaughlin-artist ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This one was fascinating. I'm embarrassed to say that I only ever knew about Lesotho from the Risk board. Would love more videos on this topic in the future.

  • @germasehloho9610
    @germasehloho9610 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    He missed the maluti trout fish farms that now exist as a result of these dams. The type of trout that has a very high demand over the world. In SA you will primarily find it from Woolworths. He also missed the role these dams play tourism wise. We just need proper leadership to fully harness the potential all these projects have. Hopefully at the end of the Polihali dam construction we will not need to buy any electricity from eskom. But again, too much corruption in these streets.

    • @richardtbohnen5070
      @richardtbohnen5070 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Interesting! I think the tourism one is more a liability, not just because of how much it swings and is therefore unreliable as a source of income, but also because (like in Portugal) property values skyrocket as hotels get built and even worse real-estate speculation takes place, so the local people can't live where the jobs are. On top of that the country gets transformed into a glorified hotel+themepark where the actual citizens become servants in their own country to the rich tourists.

    • @Nikolizky
      @Nikolizky ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardtbohnen5070 Nailed it

    • @lululets6338
      @lululets6338 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardtbohnen5070 💯 Sad sad reality!

  • @grahamdampier
    @grahamdampier ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am South African, and learnt a lot from this video. Our media is silent about this issue. In fact, the LHWP is widely construed as a virtuous and mutually beneficial economic endeavor. The toll of climate change has already hit the entire region very hard. Cape Town approach day zero, when all its water sources were meant to run dry. It narrowly avoided it. In a province just South West of Lesotho, there has been a drought for close to a decade now and dams have run dry. These are just two examples, which lead me to think that the country will become ever more reliant on Lesotho for water.

    • @tomdemay6147
      @tomdemay6147 ปีที่แล้ว

      climate change is a hoax though

    • @lululets6338
      @lululets6338 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Until Lesotho runs dry too…

  • @toyotagaz
    @toyotagaz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello from South Africa

  • @sooknandannishan
    @sooknandannishan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s always been an open secret that Lesotho is our water source! Especially for the basin and Northern regions of SA.
    Absolutely love the videos you make!

  • @vuhgie
    @vuhgie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m from Lesotho 🇱🇸 and this is incredible. Spot on

    • @vuhgie
      @vuhgie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whtfl imo. I think this would be a great opportunity not just for Basotho In Lesotho but for Lesotho and South Africa. There are great opportunities in both countries but I’d say being SA’s 10 province bears more opportunities.

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vuhgie OK. One day it will happen. But only if both countries agree to it.

  • @lehlohonolonkalai8410
    @lehlohonolonkalai8410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The people reaping the benefits are not the same as those bearing the costs" - This made me emotional. Some people who were relocated from their homes to make way for the dams now live in abject poverty and cannot even afford basics such as a loaf of bread, clean water, school fees etc.

  • @callanadamwilliams8200
    @callanadamwilliams8200 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Functionally Lesotho is already economically and socially a part of South Africa. The majority of its population lives and works in South Africa as migrant labourers. Economically its almost totally dependent on South Africa via the Southern African Customs Union for its imports and exports(the older customs union in the world by the way).

    • @mantuli_ka1
      @mantuli_ka1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't be so sure about "majority"

  • @kmeiring51
    @kmeiring51 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Thanks for the content. Please consider doing an insert regarding the BRICS nations. In keeping with the theme of what is happening in Ukraine, it would be worthwhile illuminating the relationship between South Africa and Russia. Topics surrounding food security and oil exports would be of special interest.

    • @jasonfabo7126
      @jasonfabo7126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bump

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Up

    • @manofculture4249
      @manofculture4249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is new proposal in BRICS about expanding the association by admitting new members. CR might make video on that.

    • @aniket1816
      @aniket1816 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bump

    • @PlSkins
      @PlSkins ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes super interesting.

  • @amcmillion3
    @amcmillion3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As usual, an absolutely incredible video. One of the absolute best channels for geopolitics.

  • @SeriousTopics
    @SeriousTopics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lesotho has abundant water resources that exceed requirements for possible future irrigation projects and development. The total water consumption in Lesotho is about 2m³/s, while the total availability is about 150m³/s. - these are really great potentials...

  • @rs211a
    @rs211a ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautifully covered as always 👌

  • @zenge.simakoloyi546
    @zenge.simakoloyi546 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm doing a group project in my masters on small states ability to leverage their assets to gain autonomy. The use of fresh water in this case a perfect example of how we should begin to start studying small state agency. Great video!

  • @samdegoeij6576
    @samdegoeij6576 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I also bet the lesser Drakensbergen highlands in Swaziland will phase the same type of problems. I've had the pleasure of visiting all 3 countries and have seen how terrible the locals are doing and how kind and hospitable they are. This is terrible reforestation and rewilding is needed to keep the highlands of Drakensbergen wet and temperate and the lower areas livable.

  • @tebogomvelase3449
    @tebogomvelase3449 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve been waiting for a video involving South Africa wow thank you 🇿🇦

    • @kamvazenani4153
      @kamvazenani4153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too bra. I thought he would tackle the political landscape and the influence we on Southern Africa but this is also good content I'm very happy

  • @oceejekwam6829
    @oceejekwam6829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for turning your attention to Lesotho.
    I didn't realise South Africa had such a spread of industrial sectors. Kudos to 🇿🇦🇱🇸

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      africa's most industrialized economy

  • @Shadowgunner785
    @Shadowgunner785 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how you did a video on Southern Africa. Specifically with Lesotho and South Africa. You should do a video in the recent South Africa Water Crisis if you have a chance and how it could be an example of future drought in other more developed countries.

  • @Tsuchimursu
    @Tsuchimursu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was a fascinating topic. thank you.

  • @kiambotebbonikay
    @kiambotebbonikay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to see my 2nd home South Africa get some highlights

  • @nyantakyibannor9328
    @nyantakyibannor9328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant delivery as always, Shirvan!!!

  • @megandeziz
    @megandeziz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Have been watching your work since the beginning, this is one of your best videos to date. Keep up the good work. Thanks

  • @abuhammad
    @abuhammad ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After finishing the video, I totally agree with the introduction statement: it's better to test the depth of the water with one foot instead of two.

  • @garybrown4385
    @garybrown4385 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work from this page.

  • @sbusovelebayi6092
    @sbusovelebayi6092 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! Your videos are always so well-researched and this one was no different. African geopolitics are interesting; and it makes me happy to see videos about Africa on quality platforms like the CaspianReport. Although I am quite new to TH-cam, I hope that one day my own channel will reach your level and quality of video-making.
    Keep up the good work! Love from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @KhaalixD
    @KhaalixD ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Awsome video! Not often you hear something about problems like this, very interesting!

  • @Matt_from_Florida
    @Matt_from_Florida ปีที่แล้ว +30

    In the late 1980's I bought a pair of swim-trunks that said, _"Made in The Mountain Kingdom of Lesotho."_ First time I'd ever heard of it!

    • @TheJayjayforce
      @TheJayjayforce ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lesotho was a major gainer from America's African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA) becoming a major textile exporter. Unfortunately that sector was decimated in 2008 due to low demand and with higher competition since its never really recovered.

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love these videos on parts of the world that are usually overlooked, excellent as always!

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 ปีที่แล้ว

      i reckon if you live in these parts they really aren't overlooked - all depends on the media you consume & how your google algorithm looks to feed you

  • @kamvazenani4153
    @kamvazenani4153 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks bro for this video. I've been waiting for a video involving SA for a long time. I've subscribed to your channel years ago. Thank you for the in depth analysis. I live the Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan area and we receive most of our water from the orange River which has its origins in Lesotho

  • @hugo_kruger
    @hugo_kruger ปีที่แล้ว +16

    South Africa uses a policy similar to nuclear deterrence for Lesotho (the military tactic of Andre Bauffre). Basically the electricity is downstream in SA.
    If they turn of the taps, we turn of their electricity.
    In 1998 when there was a military coup that wanted to take control of the water, Nelson Mandela sent in the army and "convinced" them to change their policy.

    • @historynerd72
      @historynerd72 ปีที่แล้ว

      No stop lying Mandela sent the troops coz there was a Coup as u said and the other SADC leaders convinced him to intervene

    • @charlesscott4722
      @charlesscott4722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a SADC mission, not Nelson Mandela's decision alone. Botswana also sent its military

    • @hugo_kruger
      @hugo_kruger ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlesscott4722 Mandela approved it. In fact he was in Mozambique at the time and our acting president was Buthelezi.

    • @charlesscott4722
      @charlesscott4722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@hugo_kruger Mandela was in USA, not Mozambique. My point is that it was a SADC operation, he didn't decide alone

    • @hugo_kruger
      @hugo_kruger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesscott4722 no president decides alone, but he was consulted and gave his approval. South Africa mostly dictates the SADC interventions with Botswana sometimes playing a leading role. Getting regional approval was a more sensible approach.
      You are correct about the USA, for some reason I had Mozambique in my head, but I do remember him being out of the country.

  • @jps0117
    @jps0117 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @6:55 the dam basket LOL

  • @dariogomes3598
    @dariogomes3598 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks you for the knowledge.

  • @rojasantiago89
    @rojasantiago89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work, thank you!

  • @draphotube4315
    @draphotube4315 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I really love this video. You should do more videos on these type of subjects. The most interesting to me is how nations have these relations with each other based on geographic differences.

  • @sethdominickortiz
    @sethdominickortiz ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you so much man
    Been with you for 5 yrs maybe more I can’t remember
    Always always great content that aims to be non bias and I appreciate your work just as much as the day I found your channel
    Bless you on your side of the planet

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always.

  • @joaomaxado65
    @joaomaxado65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good report.
    Congratulations.

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn
    @ArawnOfAnnwn ปีที่แล้ว +41

    THIS is what I originally subscribed to Caspian Report for - geopolitical analysis of lesser known issues around the world, NOT repeated (and somewhat repetitive) coverage of the most trending and hot button topics in the media. It's been sad seeing this channel move away from that as time went on. Hopefully we see more attention given to stuff like this, as opposed to more bandwagon programming. If people need to hear about those popular topics, they can just turn on the news and get an earful (and then some) from the mainstream media.

    • @vickomen3697
      @vickomen3697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too.

    • @williamthebonquerer9181
      @williamthebonquerer9181 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @M3X tbf Ukraine is extremely important. It affects the whole world and is the most deadly conflict going on right now in terms of deaths a day.

    • @manofculture4249
      @manofculture4249 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @M3X IPEF is not video worthy tbh.

    • @williamthebonquerer9181
      @williamthebonquerer9181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @M3X dude the Ukraine war is the most important geopolitically incident since the fall of the USSR and it's an unfolding event with lots of fake news going on. I do like it when he does videos on other topics ofc I would normally prefer that but you have to be a contrarian to not think the Ukraine war warrants multiple videos.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamthebonquerer9181 lol not really, the war in the Congo was worse, but the country is African and a basket case.

  • @sanelemngadi9324
    @sanelemngadi9324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for an episode focusing on southern africa

  • @Bling_The_Visual_Creator
    @Bling_The_Visual_Creator ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful animation... Thank you for covering project 👌🏾

  • @noyearzero
    @noyearzero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolute amazing video, with a few small weird things but nothing that detracts from the information. Love this. thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! love from South Africa

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always wondered why Lesotho existed as an independent country

    • @tshepo4612
      @tshepo4612 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they managed to defeat the boers

    • @bafanamahlatse1923
      @bafanamahlatse1923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tshepo4612they were a British protectorate.thats why they survived as a country

  • @hitenshah821
    @hitenshah821 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    At the summit of one mountain, is the foot of other.
    I swear Shirvan has got some of the best quotes in all his videos.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it’s just sophistry that is required to grow more popular as it appeals to people who don’t ask about it, which is most people

    • @elephantman2112
      @elephantman2112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@looinrims Who hurt you?

  • @meme98766gg
    @meme98766gg ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always

  • @klauskotze4508
    @klauskotze4508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent and informative video! I gain so much from this channel. As a South African, I can say that you really did a great job! Also agree with other comments: please do a video on BRICS and where it is going

  • @nostramashego4226
    @nostramashego4226 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great report CaspianReport, I think it's important to note that the water would still end up in SA, just not on the side we need it, hence we've re-directed it, but since Lesotho is completely surrounded by SA, all its rivers eventually flow into SA.

  • @hhydar883
    @hhydar883 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm glad this issue is covered. Would love to see a detailed well researched video on water issues between Pakistan and India.

  • @Pine_of_England
    @Pine_of_England ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love to see Southern African content

  • @hasanchoudhury5401
    @hasanchoudhury5401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info and discussions. Thanks.

  • @malcolm_in_the_middle
    @malcolm_in_the_middle ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Your pronunciation is impressive. One thing: Gauteng is pronounced more like Hrauteng. 'G's are funny in Afrikaans.

    • @dr.floridaman4805
      @dr.floridaman4805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rape, murder, theft and that is just the politicians of SA
      The people that live there are all animals that deserve cages.

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeee also limpopo is popo when the Americans say 'here comes the popo' (police) 🤣 and then one or two other small errors

    • @weirdlanguageguy
      @weirdlanguageguy ปีที่แล้ว

      Dutch and afrikaans have great g's, dont they? The only language with funnier g's is the variety of Galician (spoken in the part of Spain directly north of Portugal) that pronounces them like Arabic emphatic/pharyngeal h's

    • @TumiMokotong
      @TumiMokotong ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol! No ways! Almost everything not in English was mispronounced.

    • @shisuiuchiha480
      @shisuiuchiha480 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gauteng is not Afrikaans. It’s The indigenous Sesotho language. It simply means “place of gold”

  • @qwertykeyswasd4032
    @qwertykeyswasd4032 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a South African, I'm kinda sad that Lesotho has to give South Africa water, even if there isn't enough for it's own people

    • @sigerian1085
      @sigerian1085 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like they have plenty of water bro..

    • @sizla8837
      @sizla8837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not done for free

    • @haha__hihi
      @haha__hihi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think we can all agree that as long as the people on both sides benefit from the dams, they are a good thing...
      it's all about proper calibration...from the information in the video I'd say that the prices should take the inflation into account which they currently don't, this could be renegotiated, so in the end, some political compromise which is feasible. One more thing is better organization of the projects and redistribution of the profit and the fair competition for construction companies to join on the project if they match for the requirements. This is a lot harder and I can't think of way to implement it.
      But when thinking about this in the context of climate change and long-term durability....I have a feeling more dams don't look like a good idea, but without proper analysis, who can say

    • @germasehloho9610
      @germasehloho9610 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have a dam (Metolong Dam) that caters for the locals.

    • @marigoldbeam5475
      @marigoldbeam5475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have empathy and integrity, that's why. Rare characteristics in our days. So many people will rationalise 'anything' so long as it suits their purposes.

  • @dkelban
    @dkelban ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really excellent analysis

  • @nelsonkisakye6894
    @nelsonkisakye6894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wooow thx shivon well researched

  • @umbertomclovin
    @umbertomclovin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this channel!!!

  • @felixdelabarara494
    @felixdelabarara494 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The water analogies are strong with this one.

  • @ArunGoyal2007
    @ArunGoyal2007 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive, well drafted and educative. Tks

  • @DaFooling
    @DaFooling ปีที่แล้ว +2

    South African here, one of the huge issues is the government of South Africa does not collect payment for services from low income areas. They are not selling a lot of the water they buy.

  • @Hans-qi3wq
    @Hans-qi3wq ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Look at that! I've travelled through that country extensively, and have seen the system being built over the years, from nothing to running over.
    And yes, South Africa is going backwards.

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts but it's a slow fall. What is sad is that there's nothing to replace the ANC worth voting for.

    • @PluvioZA
      @PluvioZA ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The people of South Africa are trying so hard to keep the country on track, but the ANC led government and its rampant corruption are absolutely tearing everything apart.

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PluvioZA we had infrastructure. We had possibilities of expansion. On the dams and power. We had trains that where actually a viable and safe option. We had stocks of oil saved up, we had a strong currency( not necessarily good for a export nation like sa)
      But now escom can barely Power us, having water shortages every 5 years lol what trains.
      The only thing we got that is good is roads.

    • @PluvioZA
      @PluvioZA ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@allliquid6320 All very true, even then... our roads are only good in certain provinces, and between certain areas.

    • @allliquid6320
      @allliquid6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PluvioZA oh true. I forgor. As I don't travel enough in sa.

  • @theknifedude1881
    @theknifedude1881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t know if The World Court works in civil cases (or works @ all) but with enough PR/visibility, Lesotho might be able to force a semi-reasonable re-write of the contract.
    Whatever happens it sounds ripe for corruption unless any and all negotiations are kept in the open.

  • @flingflang69
    @flingflang69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Pretoria and had no idea about this. Terrifying.

  • @mr.neworld2031
    @mr.neworld2031 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos have an awesome quality

  • @patrickcloutier6801
    @patrickcloutier6801 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This presentation was very illuminating. I knew that within South Africa there were several 'independent' "Bantu" states, but with what little I knew I assumed that SA did not want governance of them, because they were worthless economically, or else thought they were created as 'Potemkin villages' for world opinion. But to think that this tiny kingdom is the aquifer for so much of the region, and to think of how catastrophic relations with SA have been for Lesotho, it boggles the mind. It seems that few in Lesotho have benefited from modernization, with the exception of the well-connected.

    • @cxzact9204
      @cxzact9204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remittances from SA account for about a quarter of Lesotho's GDP. The two countries are heavily economically integrated.

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cxzact9204 Ouch. That's bad.

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude, Moshoeshoe I looks like a complete badass!

    • @TheJayjayforce
      @TheJayjayforce ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He WAS a complete badass. He pretty much created the whole Basotho nation through diplomacy and warfare. He played an integral role in his people surviving the Zulu caused Difaqane (crushing, scattering) also known as the Mefecana or Time of Troubles which uprooted many African tribes and led to untold deaths. Its why the Basotho retreated to the Mountain Fortress that acted as their safe refuge throughout their entire history.

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheJayjayforce That's amazing. Know any other resources on his life or is that just stuff you osmosed over time? I love learning about important African figures because western education does such a massive disservice to the entire continent, Africa seems to only exist as a victim in our education system which, while obviously true, ignores all the great works of African groups and ignores their agency.

    • @TheJayjayforce
      @TheJayjayforce ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tinil0 Unfortunately not. I'm sure there is stuff out there, but what I know of him I've mostly picked up from different places over time.
      In South Africa and the world more generally he (and a lot of other stuff in Southern Africa) tends to get overlooked in favour of Shaka Zulu. Which to be fair, he was a major figure oft compared to people like Alexandra the Great. Also because he fought the British and Boers alone and rejected Europeans (Moshoeshoe I allied with Europeans to fight other Europeans) and the Zulus are the largest and most influential tribe in SA today. This also tends to result in Shaka being "sanitized" a bit somewhat. Talking more about things like his military achievements and cultural legacy and not about things like him ordering the death of pregnant women and their husbands after his mothers death. He is also said to have ordered over 7000 to be executed for not being sufficiently grief stricken and for the mothers of calf's to be killed so that they too would know his pain.
      Shaka is a bit of a controversial figure in SA with some (mostly Zulus) near worshiping him and others (mostly non-Zulus) pointing out his faults.
      I know for Shaka there was a very influential dramatic series made about him in the 1980s and that a new movie about him is being made. I hope Moshoeshoe I also gets that at some point. Though that would naturally have to paint Shaka as more of an antagonist character given his role as an aggressive military conqueror.
      Another interesting group that's often overlooked in SA is the Griqua. Mixed descendants of native KhoiKhoi and Dutch colonists. They had a more European culture and sometimes got guns and money gifted to them from their fathers. They also left the Cape like the Boers and set up their own short-lived independent frontier states. They didn't last long, but many places still bare their name to this day.

    • @bluddxi
      @bluddxi ปีที่แล้ว

      He was

  • @crystallineentity
    @crystallineentity ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man, very educational and useful

  • @pierrekilgoretrout3143
    @pierrekilgoretrout3143 ปีที่แล้ว

    extraordinary landscapes

  • @rushmore100
    @rushmore100 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice video. Lesotho is a vasal state of South Africa. Nothing more, nothing less. Like you said, all it has is water to bargain with. We can romanticise the struggles as much as possible it doesn't change the fact that the country is geopolitical insignificant and heavily reliant on South Africa for everything from fuel to cheese.

    • @kamvazenani4153
      @kamvazenani4153 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is the sad reality and it's not only Lesotho, the whole of Southern Africa depends on SA. That is why we must make sure that SA never fails.

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kamvazenani4153 A load we must carry for everyone.

    • @victorymokoena112
      @victorymokoena112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kamvazenani4153 No it's not sad South Africa just needs to mature and understand we need to treat our neighbours as citizens as they fall under our orbit .

  • @nicholaskruger4134
    @nicholaskruger4134 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It is good to see content covering issues and situations in Southern Africa as a South African myself. Thank you Shirvan. South Africa has a lot of potential to be a major global player and a leading nation on the continent.

    • @davesprivatelounge
      @davesprivatelounge ปีที่แล้ว

      BRICS will hopefully change the world for the better

    • @RK-cj4oc
      @RK-cj4oc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davesprivatelounge We all know Brics wont.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A bad deal for 1 side is a bad deal for both. Creating a problem to have a solution is a very bad deal.

    • @ibibo3146
      @ibibo3146 ปีที่แล้ว

      South Africa has poor leadership skills. She will never lead anyone.

    • @davesprivatelounge
      @davesprivatelounge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RK-cj4oc Why not?

  • @kludgedude
    @kludgedude ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, informative

  • @sammybananny
    @sammybananny ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing research. Amazing story telling. Amazing visuals. Just amazing.

  • @bustavonnutz
    @bustavonnutz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If Lesotho demanded that unskilled laborers for the dams had to solely be drawn from the local population then many of the economic woes would've been soothed, but for some reason this didn't happen. Such a simple decision would see many citizens of Lesotho uplifted economically; however, most of the labor seems to be outsources to SA migrant workers which just seems foolish to me. Hard to feel sorry for them when the way forward is so clear.

    • @trillionbones89
      @trillionbones89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does not sound like they were listened to.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude how can they do that when there is no infrastructure and no incentive to invest in the country.
      Even you guys just view as an ant.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And your explanation just wouldn’t work or make Lesotho a rich country.

  • @danieldpa8484
    @danieldpa8484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This material is of good quality, few journalists can do it this way.

  • @lightgiver428
    @lightgiver428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm South African, and I have never heard of this before...

  • @mochimochi3373
    @mochimochi3373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yaas to the new intro 🙌 keep up the good work 👏

  • @avantelvsitania3359
    @avantelvsitania3359 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As always, a great video about an almost unknown topic among the rivalries of superpowers. I would also point that the graphics of the rivers and reservoirs was a bit confusing. I believe better could have been done.
    About the project there is also another big problem for Lesotho: soil erosion. With climate change and the overgrazing of the few pastures left the soil is heavily eroding. This means enormous quantities of sediments are running through the valleys and filling the reservoirs. If the reservoirs end up with more sediments than water itself, than this supposedly win-win project is condemned to failure, bringing benefits but lots of damage.
    The future seems uncertain for Lesotho, but this strategic nation can have a key role in the future. South Africa seems increasingly unstable. If we see in the next decades ethnic separatism, especially among the lowland Basotho, the Kingdom of the Sky could expand it’s borders, free itself from a semi-protectorate status and gain a new influence in the region. However History plays, lets hope Peace prevails and the people remain unharmed.

    • @masingitachauke6678
      @masingitachauke6678 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peace will prevail

    • @thenomad47
      @thenomad47 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with that is that there is no real interest in Breaking up SA among Racial lines, nor is there any real or feasible way to do that. What most maps don't show, is although certain ethnicities are the "majority" in certain provinces, that "majority" is only at around 40-60% at best, with the other 40-60% being made up by a mixture of all the other ethnicities, There are no true "ethnic lines of divide" in SA, as every ethnicity moved around and intermingled so much post-Apartheid, that a separation along ethnic lines literally isn't possible or feasible. And on top of that, Lesotho has a reasonably strong movement in it to make it SA's 10th province. As things currently stand, there's a better chance of SA just having a rough decade while the ANC goes completely out of power, and then admitting both eSwatini and Lesotho as 10 and 11th provinces, than there is for SA to break up along ethnic lines

  • @theintrovertadventurer9640
    @theintrovertadventurer9640 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It certainly sounds like Lesotho is utterly screwed!

  • @mikebolton3503
    @mikebolton3503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice piece on SA and Lesotho . Cheers

  • @cipriannastase8886
    @cipriannastase8886 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the ending quotes of each video. Nice job and keep doing this educational videos 💪😎

  • @gregwochlik9233
    @gregwochlik9233 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I lived in South Africa for 30 years (1990 to 2020). I drank Lesotho's water. This project was a life saver; we all remember low levels of the Vaal Dam.
    Few annoying things: Lesotho's water does not reach Cape Town: you frequently show images of Cape Town.
    Spelling mistake at 9:59 of Gautang --> Gauteng.
    Timestamp 10:06. According to my knowledge, Limpopo doesn't use Lesotho's water. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the Lesotho's water only reaches the Vaal Dam.
    Mistake at 9:28 the road scene. It is mirrored. South Africa and Lesotho drive on the LEFT. Also, that road is probably from South Africa Timestamp 15:03 That is Sani Pass with 100% certanty. I drove up and it personally twice. This section is absolutely stunning, but is not in Lesotho. It lies between the two border checkpoints.

  • @Wehdeo
    @Wehdeo ปีที่แล้ว +17

    4:33 Correct me if I’m wrong but based on the clothes, the person in this stock video might be Maasai and not Basotho. Two pretty different cultures from different parts of Africa. Yes there’s probably not a lot of available stock footage but still…

    • @CodeSwag
      @CodeSwag ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There's a huge derth of Africa themed stock footage. Probably none of that video was from Lesotho so you can't really blame him.

    • @kelvinbrown8136
      @kelvinbrown8136 ปีที่แล้ว

      He looks like the basotho I have seen while hiking in the drakensburg (in towns and urban areas they dont dress like that much), they wear blankets like that when herding in the mountains. If you want to nitpick there is a lot of footage of capetown which does not benefit from the Lesotho highland water project, but I am not here to look at stock footage its the content of message thats very relevent and well researched.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CodeSwag Black Panther has a whole tribe of guys who look like Sotho's, should've copy and pasted from there

  • @mthunzimapatwana
    @mthunzimapatwana ปีที่แล้ว

    As a long-time standing subscriber of the Caspian report, I can pretty much say that this was covered well.