Do you mean Saint??? He literally spoke over Beluga the entire time. He didn't want to hear any of his points. He acted like a little kid. He wouldn't look at chapters that Beluga referred to but the second someone in the chat refers to something that backs up a weak claim of his, he's all about pulling up the manga chapters. Lmao Please. even Saint knows he didn't win this. He was in his feelings the entire time.
@@Someonedoesntwantmeinhiscommenhow about you say all that to his face and we'll see if saint was in his "emotional zone" all the time with no logical arguments. You really think he would want to hear points that he has already heard and argued against, with emotions in front of logic (not just from Beluga btw)? Next you're gonna tell me the cliche that he didn't understand the story at all, and that he was talking nonsense for over 2,5 years Honestly, you people probably run out of counter arguments, so you resorted to saying saintitchief is emotional about it as a useless, failed attempt to discredit him
@@Philthornto his face? You mean like in a debate. Actually, maybe in the future if he is less of an ass. But if this is his behavior what's the point? I've watched this man pick up crucial plot details from videos he tried to debunk. So I truly _don't_ think he initially understood a lot of nuances in the series. Neither did I, so I'd never use that phrase. It's not exactly a "simple" story. On the contrary, what I hear from him now are various phrasings of "if this is what Isayama was going for, he didn't write it well". "This is probably what Isayama intended but he dropped the ball" "Yea, this is probably what he meant but dogshit". I think he understands it well enough. He just can't accept it, to the point he'll argue the most asinine points just to stand against it. Well, apparently he thought Mikasa took a nap under the tree and skipped across the ocean so maybe he's still missing some things. It doesn't matter what he wants to hear. You let the other person get their points out fully before you attack. What do you mean, points he'd already heard? We heard all of Saint's questions mulitiple times He wouldn't accept the answers or wouldn't even give him the respect to fully explain his reasoning. This went on for the entire debate. He interrupted nearly every single time and when a point was finally expressed, he makes it seem like Beluga had been repeating the same thing ad nauseum. When he couldn't get Beluga to concede, he gave himself a win. His conclusion to the Mikasa point: she regressed as a character, dogshit writing. Completely disregarded Beluga. Armin's supposed hypocrisy: "Armin's a hypocrite. The end" Completely disregarded Beluga again. "hehe whatever bro I'm pretty sure the chat will agree with me."
@@Philthorn idk who "you people is" But I _don't_ think Saint is usually super irrationally emotional in debates. I think he's irrational but not overly emotional. Not the case here. He was acting like a kid
@@Someonedoesntwantmeinhiscommenthink whatever you want about saint, but he wasn't ignoring Beluga's points, and even if he did, I already explained why, plus, Beluga got exposed for trying to dox people PERIOD
Beluga "Mikasa is a great character" Spends the whole debate arguing Mikasa's whole existence is dependent on Eren and even in his death she only lives for his memory. Saint "Mikasa is a terrible character" Spends the whole debate arguing Mikasa is more complex than that at least pre retcon. ???????
@@onlyfiles_ There's one thing having a different opinion, but you have to back that opinion with decent facts/explanations. Beluga either agreed with Saint and they moved on or most of the time he didn't prove his points and made little to no sense. People saying he "destroyed" Saint are delusional.
If there is build up without pay off, that's when it's not good. Building up the idea of a power going to the next born eldian if it's not inherited by showing historia's baby being born the moment zeke dies.
This is bad. Saints arguments are so vapid, they're easily argued against. So he screams, denounces, attacks, loses his shit, dropkicks the goal post off the damn field, etc. And Beluga is struggling to articulate his points, while being steamrolled by stupidity. This "Saint Saint listen to me" bs is pointless. He won't. He can't. He doesn't want to. He's a brick wall, so start knocking it down lmao I don't fucking get it. Match his energy yall damn. Mikasa only sat under that tree for 3 years, Armin is a hypocritice as casualties from a direct attack on millitary assets is the exact same as purposely wiping out all existence from the planet. Enemies are mixed in so its the same. This is dumb. He has terrible points and an echo chamber of like-minded individuals who have a lot more in common with Mikasa than they'd probably want to admit. Standing by this dude on some of these points is insane....
In the first place, mikasa just dont want eren to become a murderer thats why she stopped him. It aint about compassion imo. She just wants to preserve her own image of eren
Saint killed this debate, even if he did get a bit flustered at times that’s understandable considering the insane weaseling going on from the pro ending guy 😂. Someone does need to tell saint to not have that super loud donation music play over the discussion tho. That was super annoying and a bit disrespectful to the guy
All Beluga had to say about the Mikasa thing is that she was more depressed because SHE was the one that killed him, whereas in Trost, he just died on his own
The bird is actually symbolism. I think its supposed to represent freedom? Its shittily implemented symbolism, for too many reasons to get into. It's really corny. It is actually like when they saw Sashas ghost, but Isayama wasnt trying to say ghosts are real in attack on titan. That was corny as hell too though. Much better example of the ghost symbollism happened earlier with Hange, where at least he waited until she died so theres a clear level of abstraction to start with the visual symbolissm ,
@@Ecodude-cw7kgI mean, I've been but a bystander all this time, so I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Maybe I'll stick around aot for some time still, maybe until aotnr finally gets animated next fall, and if anything happens in the future, I'll come back. Tbh, only God truly knows the answer to that question
@@thatoneguy871 I mean, why outright hate a guy for his opinions lol He was the less disrespectful one in this debate, even if you disagree with his points.
Delusion on Titan
"I am the delusional titan."
Attack on Delusion
"I was morbing Armin!"
Beluga's stubbornness is so impulsively annoying
Do you mean Saint??? He literally spoke over Beluga the entire time. He didn't want to hear any of his points. He acted like a little kid. He wouldn't look at chapters that Beluga referred to but the second someone in the chat refers to something that backs up a weak claim of his, he's all about pulling up the manga chapters. Lmao Please. even Saint knows he didn't win this. He was in his feelings the entire time.
@@Someonedoesntwantmeinhiscommenhow about you say all that to his face and we'll see if saint was in his "emotional zone" all the time with no logical arguments. You really think he would want to hear points that he has already heard and argued against, with emotions in front of logic (not just from Beluga btw)? Next you're gonna tell me the cliche that he didn't understand the story at all, and that he was talking nonsense for over 2,5 years
Honestly, you people probably run out of counter arguments, so you resorted to saying saintitchief is emotional about it as a useless, failed attempt to discredit him
@@Philthornto his face? You mean like in a debate. Actually, maybe in the future if he is less of an ass. But if this is his behavior what's the point?
I've watched this man pick up crucial plot details from videos he tried to debunk. So I truly _don't_ think he initially understood a lot of nuances in the series. Neither did I, so I'd never use that phrase. It's not exactly a "simple" story. On the contrary, what I hear from him now are various phrasings of "if this is what Isayama was going for, he didn't write it well". "This is probably what Isayama intended but he dropped the ball" "Yea, this is probably what he meant but dogshit". I think he understands it well enough. He just can't accept it, to the point he'll argue the most asinine points just to stand against it.
Well, apparently he thought Mikasa took a nap under the tree and skipped across the ocean so maybe he's still missing some things.
It doesn't matter what he wants to hear. You let the other person get their points out fully before you attack. What do you mean, points he'd already heard? We heard all of Saint's questions mulitiple times He wouldn't accept the answers or wouldn't even give him the respect to fully explain his reasoning. This went on for the entire debate. He interrupted nearly every single time and when a point was finally expressed, he makes it seem like Beluga had been repeating the same thing ad nauseum. When he couldn't get Beluga to concede, he gave himself a win. His conclusion to the Mikasa point: she regressed as a character, dogshit writing. Completely disregarded Beluga. Armin's supposed hypocrisy: "Armin's a hypocrite. The end" Completely disregarded Beluga again. "hehe whatever bro I'm pretty sure the chat will agree with me."
@@Philthorn idk who "you people is" But I _don't_ think Saint is usually super irrationally emotional in debates. I think he's irrational but not overly emotional. Not the case here. He was acting like a kid
@@Someonedoesntwantmeinhiscommenthink whatever you want about saint, but he wasn't ignoring Beluga's points, and even if he did, I already explained why, plus, Beluga got exposed for trying to dox people PERIOD
At this rate, Saint is gonna be an AOE bro from all the donation bribes 😂😂😂😂😂
Beluga "Mikasa is a great character"
Spends the whole debate arguing Mikasa's whole existence is dependent on Eren and even in his death she only lives for his memory.
Saint "Mikasa is a terrible character"
Spends the whole debate arguing Mikasa is more complex than that at least pre retcon.
???????
Yeah she was dependent on Eren more a majority of the story but the story didn’t end in trost.
she was good pre timeskip.
hes saying shes a terrible character BECAUSE she has regressed so much. Beluga is the one not making sense
@@pyrite2060 oh I am aware. Saint won the debate, it's not even close. I'm just pointing out the irony.
@@saintitchiefMore like Season 1 only😅
The live chat was a pure L. How do people actually agree with Beluga?
God forbid somebody has a different opinion than you
@@onlyfiles_ There's one thing having a different opinion, but you have to back that opinion with decent facts/explanations. Beluga either agreed with Saint and they moved on or most of the time he didn't prove his points and made little to no sense. People saying he "destroyed" Saint are delusional.
@@jimmyinfamous9664 they are trolling
Do you know what sarcasm is?
@@nekobitan8313 Yeah my bad, some of them were serious though.
If there is build up without pay off, that's when it's not good.
Building up the idea of a power going to the next born eldian if it's not inherited by showing historia's baby being born the moment zeke dies.
Beluga embarrassed himself again
This is bad. Saints arguments are so vapid, they're easily argued against. So he screams, denounces, attacks, loses his shit, dropkicks the goal post off the damn field, etc. And Beluga is struggling to articulate his points, while being steamrolled by stupidity. This "Saint Saint listen to me" bs is pointless. He won't. He can't. He doesn't want to. He's a brick wall, so start knocking it down lmao I don't fucking get it. Match his energy yall damn.
Mikasa only sat under that tree for 3 years, Armin is a hypocritice as casualties from a direct attack on millitary assets is the exact same as purposely wiping out all existence from the planet. Enemies are mixed in so its the same. This is dumb. He has terrible points and an echo chamber of like-minded individuals who have a lot more in common with Mikasa than they'd probably want to admit. Standing by this dude on some of these points is insane....
He embarrassed himself everytime tbh
Mental Gymnastics. ED's can't defend the ending. Peak comedy.
I was playing this as I was falling asleep but woke the fuck up when beluga says he KISSES HIS DAD ON THE LIPS
Damn, i never get tired of Saint explaining the obvious to Ending defenders.
In the first place, mikasa just dont want eren to become a murderer thats why she stopped him. It aint about compassion imo. She just wants to preserve her own image of eren
Saint killed this debate, even if he did get a bit flustered at times that’s understandable considering the insane weaseling going on from the pro ending guy 😂. Someone does need to tell saint to not have that super loud donation music play over the discussion tho. That was super annoying and a bit disrespectful to the guy
Beluga clearly won this debate. And AOE is 100% confirmed
Alright, enough with the trolling
29:15 "Tsk. w-well good for u." 💀
27:48 1000 dono
All Beluga had to say about the Mikasa thing is that she was more depressed because SHE was the one that killed him, whereas in Trost, he just died on his own
After further watching, Beluga definitely lost that argument because saying Mikasa's reason for living was SOLELY to remember Eren is insane
that still wouldn’t work, cause she doesn’t feel bad that she killed him, she feels bad that he’s dead.
1k donation was pretty sick
27:46 AYO WTF?!?
If he doesn't charge that back then that is actually amazing
The bird is actually symbolism. I think its supposed to represent freedom? Its shittily implemented symbolism, for too many reasons to get into. It's really corny. It is actually like when they saw Sashas ghost, but Isayama wasnt trying to say ghosts are real in attack on titan. That was corny as hell too though. Much better example of the ghost symbollism happened earlier with Hange, where at least he waited until she died so theres a clear level of abstraction to start with the visual symbolissm ,
please do another one again soon lol
What is gonna change honestly, here 3rd time isn't and won't be the charm
@@Philthorn Phil, I have a question after Saint uploads his final reaction and review of the AOT finale what are you gonna do?
@@Ecodude-cw7kgI mean, I've been but a bystander all this time, so I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Maybe I'll stick around aot for some time still, maybe until aotnr finally gets animated next fall, and if anything happens in the future, I'll come back. Tbh, only God truly knows the answer to that question
@@Philthorn ok cool
why would Eren kill innocent people if he didnt need to? That is never something he would do if it wasn't necessary smh the cope was real🤣🤣🤣
did he chargeback???
no
@@saintitchiefuse that money to buy a ps5 and play Spider-Man 2
Spiderman sucks. Buy Devil May Cry 5 special edition.
@@Yusei5ds0707 fuck no
@saintitchief yeah, didn't he fuck you even worse than that? A simple charge back would have been preferable fr
Yo jonassanoj1604 where you at? You were talkin big in the chat 1:41:53
Beluga cooked Saint per usual. mid debate
If he's cooking anything I hope nobody's eating it, for their sake.
Ok, this is definitely trolling
@@goldenmairon2371My dude Beluga is cooking chicken that's raw in the middle 😂
@@Philthorn I ain't even have to watch this shit lol I just know Saint was coping the entire time. common Beluga W
@@big_sketgamingthis is definitely beluga alt account 😂
W
Hello Saint, how are you?
God I hate beluga so much
Damn bruh
Because he's smarter than Saint and can actually handle a debate like an adult?
@@Someonedoesntwantmeinhiscommen damn again bruh
@@thatoneguy871 I mean, why outright hate a guy for his opinions lol He was the less disrespectful one in this debate, even if you disagree with his points.
Armin only helped Eren in liberio because they couldn´t risk loseing the founder do Marley
exactly?
You better use that 2k to buy a ps5 and play Spider-Man 2
Spider woke 2
@@omensoffate wtf is woke about it 😂 nigga just because a black character is in it doesn’t make it woke lil bro
2:09:16 💋💀
Yo when you comin back to BDO lmao