Sig Tango 6T vs Trijicon VCOG (Battle Of The US Military LPVOs)
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As an optics enthusiast, I found the side-by-side testing and analysis very helpful in understanding the strengths and differences of each LPVO. Both seem like excellent choices for the US military!
Never shot the sig tango 6t. But I absolutely love my trijicon VCOG 1x6 with the trijicon quick release mount.
Technically it’s not a 1x6, it’s a 1-6
@@Sparks00psnyou're right
Same here. Found mine for 1200 and even though all i had was a Zastava M90 you bet i bought that thing and slapped a “brembos on a civic”
Same. I got the VCOG 1-6 and it’s solid built like a tank
Trijicon VCOG for the win.
I have both. VCOG all day everyday. No question
Perhaps you got an eotech vudu 1-8 scope?
@@militaryarchive4840 I have the 1x6 vudu with the SR1 reticle. I’ve throughly enjoyed it and have competed in 6 Run and Gun comps with it. It’s super tough and has not yet failed. Zero leaks after swimming thru 8 foot of water.
@sbenoit22 what do you like better about the VCOG?
@@doktorfaustusglass is a bit cleaner and pics up those hard to see targets in shadows and low light better. The last run and gun comp has black or no paint on steel targets hidden in the brush or trees. Also the 77gr BDC made hits on target faster. I’m finding myself going back to the more simple reticle design than the tree type. For faster acquisition. The tree reticle is hard to beat if your sitting and have time to use the information in the scope. But for comps. I have 3 minutes to complete course
Thank you. For me it's the VCOG all day long.
VCOG all day. When guys ask why I chose the VCOG I just drop it on its head and then chuck it up in the air and run over it with my car and then remount it on my rifle and look at them and say "your turn". The VCOG is a variable ACOG and I love it
I aint running over my VCOG :c
Weight of the VCOG isn't much heavier when you add in the weight of the Sig mount
3.6 ounces heavier
@@RB-qd1zi That seems like a reasonable trade-off when you consider you're getting 33% more magnification and a forged aluminum housing.
vcog is built like a tank hard to beat that
The QOL features with the markings on the Sig need to be adopted by all the manufacturers. That would be amazing!
Vcog all day.💯
I have wanted a VCOG since they hit the market, they unfortunately had some issues early on if I remember right. I would gamble my life on the Trijicon over the Sig any day.
Please make a new intro! 😅
This is the new intro lol
Lots of things they CANT show. Mags. Reloads. Thank youtube or did yall forget *already*
This new intro is one of the most homosexual things I've ever seen
@@bobbyberry5559That changed.... again.
Why you so whiny
1999.00 for my two VCOG’s 1x8 MOA at Europtics, love it, never had an issue, can’t speak personally on the other but do like my Sig red dots. Great in-depth evaluation on both optics, I’d trust both if I had to.
I trust my life with the VCOG 💯 🇺🇸
1x8 vcog for the win
You should do a Marine Corps rifle qualification with each LVPO.
And then an Army qualification.
Lol 🔥
Right now, I am leaning more towards the VCOG but I would love to see more testing and camparisons
VCOG all day long
I think a 4 way vs of those two and the NightForce ATACR and Leupold Mark6/8 would be awesome!!!
I think Clint avoided answering which of the two optics he would personally choose. I'm guessing that's because Clint's choice was not the same as his branch.
I’m waiting till we throw nightforce in the mix then I’ll list them in order…also waiting to see which one breaks first in the continuation of this comparison. 😅
That fin on the magnification dial is a win, for me. I don't like the extra consideration of a long lever when I'm laying down or packing up a rifle.
Yes include the Night Force, and make sure y’all do a box tracking test.
Yes. Please toss in the NF. I want to see more LPVOs in general.
High end PA
Eotech vudu
Kahles
Army awarded contract for the AF. The T6 is for use on M4A1s and the VCOG is for the M27.
Any reticle that tracks specifically MRADs is always universal with any bullet. Heck, even rocks and arrows. Or even nothing. Just using as a range finder or something.
I'd select neither!
I'd go with the Socom's selection in the Nightforce ATACR 1-8x!
I thought SOCOM went with the SFP version of the sig
While I wouldn't disagree with your preference, it's not a clear win across the board for the NF. The VCOG's 1x is noticeably closer to a true 1x, with better FOV and less of the scope body visible. The reticle is much easier to pick up on the VCOG without illumination (with illumination the NF is much brighter, however, but without it is very fine in the middel at 1x, similar to the way he described the Tango 6T). One nice point in favor of the ATACR, however, is that even with a mount it is still lighter than the VCOG 1-8. The VCOG is a bit of a pig, even for a 1-8.
You guys are the best!! Love the channel 🎉
Wonder how much Sig paid to have their guns and optics chosen by the military?
My Vortex strike eagle still works really good 1-8 @ 550 yds. I think better visual than the tango-6.
Plus i can destroy it and get a free replacement.
I love my SCO, and I wouldn't trade it. But you have to know the Mil system and memorize your holds to take advantage of it. If you just want to drop M855 from an M4 on target, the Tango 6 is easier. Of course, you can get the VCOG with a BDC reticle similar to the Tango 6.
Great point on the MIL system. I've been making cards using my Kestrel. Let's face it, the money we've all spent over the years, might as well go all in!
Gotta durability test them, that’s definitely part of the pricing deference!
Results are predictable. As is the difference in weight.
VCOG is made with 7071 with its integrated mount and the Sig is 6061.
Yes do all 3
Please add an eotech vudu 1-8 scope
You're the expert. Do whatever relevant tests you feel would make sense 😉
Sig got tested massive shoulder height drops 4 times no zero change and on concrete with weight of rifle on it.
New drinking game, take a shot every time Clint says “cool” 😆😆
acog vs. these two flimmsy things plz ^^
Yes bring in the a tacker and go at least 500 yards. Put the scopes in front of a really cold ac vent then straight out to our Carolina summer weather. If they can handle that with out fogging. 👍👍
The giggle on "just the tip"...🤣
I am a child. 😂
@@magdump_morgan bro, same. 🤣
Yes, more tests please, Accuracy at distance.
Thank you for another great video. I’d really like to see an accuracy test. That VCOG is the same I’m about to purchase.
For simplistic, all around use…. I still can’t find a better set up than the classic 4x Acog with piggy backed red dot.
Gotta love them still-tipped.
I love contract over runs!!!!
Wouldn't spend 2200 or 3200 for those, thats a wild price
I want a Vcog with Fiber optic and waterproof to 300meters. First focal plane would be good but I would take second focal plane if they had the fiber optic. Also Mil crosshair reticle.
I want you to drop the scopes in the ocean until they leak. LVPO breaks at the rear adjustment. Throw them off a bridge.
I just realized that you guys changed the music in the beginning 😂
Eotech vudu vs Vortex Razor
Great info 💪🏻🙏🏼🇧🇷🇺🇸
Never once in the Marice Corps was I issued an RCO that still had the metal cap cables 😂
Great video, as always! Would love to see them out to 500 or 600 yds. I know, not real world, but today's issues are testing the limits of what we believed to be "real". Again, great video!
If you bring in the atacr you need to include the razor 2e as well
I'd love to see a test out to 600 meters and showing what the target looks like through the optics.
I have a vcog 1-6 and the reticle is way too large. The reticle is like 3-4 moa it seems. Don’t quote me. I like the smaller reticle on the sig. I’m thinking of switching.
Folding throw lever would be good too
These videos are so awesome. Honestly helped me get threw the whole Covid thing. Can’t wait for my turn to finally win a give away. 👍🏻
Integrated killflash is a very strange feature for a combat optic, what if you get mud in there?
It can be removed easily either to clean or get the hell out the way lol
Do a video comparing different lasers. The new EOTech OGL has my interest
add in the eotech vudu
Let’s see these two on 308, 16inch barrel. I wanna see the range short to longer with a 168 grain match round. I think these optics would like the 308. Thanks
Definitely would be interested in seeing them on different platforms and/or calibers. I’m looking at the VCOG to go on my LWRC REPR, 308.
What about Vortex Razor HD?
I’m looking at getting myself a 1-8 VCOG on my Pws compound mk116… so yes, I’d love to see them all battle it out
Also you can generally find vcogs for 1800-1900
Great choice in the PWS MK116, never had a hick up or misfire after 6000+ rounds, by far my favorite AR15, had to have 2. Tried to get the MK218 308, seems PWS isn’t doing any runs now or in the near future.😡 Had to part with 2x the $ and went with a LWRC REPR308, not enough time on it to form a good opinion but you can’t compare the price vs performance of the PWS.
Vortex Razor 1-10...you can have that Sig!!!!
Part 2, part 3, & part 4.
Give us all the details. Super interested in both of these optics.
1,000 yard range with at least ten different distance targets with rapid switching between them. Really test out how much you need to adjust magnification and how well it adjusts!
And compare the VCOG 8X against the Eotech HHS V5
Add the NF and Razor
Nothing about what battery and how long it will last
For one, the Marines would just break the Sig Tango. I run a ACOG TA110 and have some runtime on the Sig Tango. I would love to handle the VCOG and wouldn't mind a LPVO on a .308 rifle. I just don't see the point in placing a LPVO on a 5.56 rifle. I personally wouldn't shoot anything past 300 yards with a 5.56 and a 3.5 or 4 power optic is fine for those ranges.
I’ve always looked at it like I can actually get some eyes on something at range even if I’m not shooting at it. Positive target identification is also a plus.
“ok, cool”
What happened to the Army's Vortex 'Smart Scope'--the NGSW-FC with a bunch of electronic features? Is it for the M7 only?
@@dickizzinya9085 Thanks.
SIG, every time - unless I can have a Nightforce ATACR 1 - 8 x 24.
Maybe send them to Tiborasaurus Rex for winter testing if the tests go that long. He’s in North Dakota I think…?
I have the 1-6x v-cog and it just sits in my safe. It’s just tooooo heavy. Kinda impulse bought it cuz it was cool and I had the money at the time.
I’ll take it off of ya 😂
What 1-6 are you comparing the VCOG to for weight? It is extremely light when you factor in the integral mount: ~23 oz. total (equivalent weight of optic alone would be about 17oz).
In the dessert with dust and or swamp conditions
"The reticle is retina burn out bright"
Now that a damn lie.
Sig is actually only 3.6 ounces lighter. They didn't include the weight with the mount.
Former army infantryman here, and I gotta say the marines picked the better optic IMHO. I was a scout and the VCOG is more of a shooters optic. You can keep the SFP nonsense. I like the VCOG has both MRAD and MOA options. It would be nice to see a christmas tree reticle option at some point.
Durability/simplicity vs >weight/frills?
I'd probably take durability... because stuff gets knocked around, and K.I.S.S. 🤷🏻♂️
That titanium mount is badass though.
Final test after everything else, will they stop a 7.62x39.
Where can you find the anti reflection device for the sig tango 6t?
Mine is both of them.
VCOG all day! ❤
The steel tip is all that counts. 😇
The atacr is on another level compared to those
So you have an ATACR and at least one of the others? How have you used it and what would you say puts it "on another level" relative to the other(s)?
@@doktorfaustus it’s 8x, it has a 34 mm tube, it has more precise dialing, and it has a better reticle.
the marine lpvo manuel is written in crayola so that they would read it😅
I really wanna see the durability tests on all 3
You mentioned early on in the video that the VCOG can be used with multiple calibers. I want to be able to switch back and forth from my AR 10 and AR 15. Can we get a video on this?
It's a simple concept: the reticle the USMC chose for the SCO is graduated in mils. You do your own computation for your bullet BC, velocity, etc, and hold the appropriate subtension for the range you're shooting at. This requires a much higher degree of training on the part of the shooter than a BDC, but is flexible across different weapon platforms or even a different load fired from the same rifle.
@@doktorfaustus Great reply. Thank you for taking the time to help me out.
Would like to see a 300 or possibly 400 yd shoot off using the variable power settings.
Honestly, 300-400 yds is not much of a challenge for either of these optics. You'll need to take it out to 600 yds or so to realistically evaluate how easily a trained shooter can get hits with the 6x and its BDC vs the 8x with the mil reticle. 5.56 shoots so flat that for a 300 yd shot the BDC does not come into play.
What about FFP vs SFP.
Turret covers on vgoc rattle.. should be rubber coated? Enemy hear you adjusting?
What bolt action is that I'm the top right? Looks good
I'll stick to swampfox arrowhead😊
The VCOG is roughly 6 ounces heavier at moat with mounta (10 ounces if you dont include the lightweight mount that comes with the sig) the VCOG is also a 34mm main tube vs a 30mm main tube on the sig which allowa more light. Get a lightwwight mount for the VCOG and you can shave an ounce or two but the point of the vcog is durability which usually adds weight.
I own the older Tango 6 with the milrad reticle, whats the difference between the normal Tango 6 and the 6T? Other than reticle options and external color.
Trijicon 101%!
Vortex Razor 1-6
So you're saying it won't go OceanGate on you.
How are those rifles standing up 😂