Great review! I might have missed it because I was jumping around between the tests but what are those 2 green squares on the interface for? Are they purely aesthetic?
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Thank you for voicing the concern about software being run al the time. I have no objection to software stuff in general but it's not something I'd be running 100% of the time. After all, sometimes I want to have a very old and slow lappy (it will die if new software was to be installed there) and I would still love to have this thing to work with it too.
Thanks so much for checking it out Ducky. Yeah for many people they may not care about the software, but if you lose a lot of function with the software closed, that’s a con for me.
Really glad I watched this review as I was about to pull the trigger on this unit, I Went with another unit and am very pleased. So thank you. Will wait till the kinks are out.
At $1,000 all switches, pots, and connectors should be chassis mounted metal-bushing parts. A PCB mounted rotary switch is a recipe for early failure & practically screams ‘cash grab.’ Shame. There’s no excuse at this price.
I didn't expect such a huge diff in the mids between BAE and Heritage but it's there. The Heritage has more upper mid harmonics (that I actually don't like) whereas BAE is more saturated in the low mid, making it sound thicker.
@@hyprz I think BAE is kind of a little different from the vintage Neve stuff. A little more smiley curve or darker if you will. The top end sounds very similar though. I think both Heritage and BAE nail the top end and the bottom end. Heritage gets a little closer to nailing the midrange as well. Well the full fat 8000 series rack unit that I heard anyway. I don't know about the pres in this interface. But you need the EQ really. Without that it's not exactly like a 1073. More like a 1272.
I think the interface is cool. One point that needs to be brought up are the two HUGE transformers (green boxes you see). This isn't emulated pre's or something. It's a legit 1073 style pre with transformers. I'm not sure if there is an input AND output transformer though, although I know their rack units do have input and output transformers. I used the dual pre/eq rack unit for about 3 years from Heritage and I found the sound a little too modern, bright, and clean compared to a Neve or a BAE. If you like the 1073 but want a little less vibe/color and something that is maybe a bit more friendly, the Heritage is great. I don't love mixer software and I really don't like mixer software that always has to be open. Heritage also needs to include ADAT on all of its interfaces for outboard gear, recording more tracks, and mixing purposes.
Why aren't people talking about the new motu 828, with that money one can get that. Interfaces can never outboard gears like compressors and eqs no matter how hard they try, 10 to 20 years time, computer softwares and engineering will force them out of time, while outboard gears like eqs and compressors remain, unless they have a way those mic pres can be bypassed without the use of the Interface. If I have the money, I'll buy outboard gears and go for a good interface just for conversion and not the excellent pres.
@@rodneyplatinummix7798 I love Motu. I use the 16a for running outboard when I mix or multitracking. Great for summing. Heritage should add adat to all their interfaces for 8 more tracks. You can sync with a 8 mic pre rack unit, patch bay, something like a Ferrofish converter. All sorts of options with those 8 tracks.
Great review as always. There is a 2 in 4 out for $650. The pro one. At the end of the day. I would go with an Apollo. The pres are super clean and I could and have gotten the 1073 sound with a plugin
It sounds congested compared to the outboard. Better to buy an interface with a quality line input that bypasses mic pres and get a quality outboard pre. Then you are not stuck with one distinct pre flavour. Thanks for excellent review.
FYI: BAE 1073 DMP is not an accurate representation of a 1073. There is no EQ and only 70 dB of gain, while the original has 80 dB. BAE 1073 DMP is not the real deal!
I'm curious to know if HA addresses the fact that the mixer needs to be open at all times for monitoring. This sort of a deal breaker for me. The unit seems fantastic otherwise. We need more competition in the DSP space so props to HA. Also noted is the higher noise floor in the low end which may be problematic for me. Thank you for the excellent review!
Hello, I see that there are four outputs in the specs ( monitor LR, outputs 3 4) but only two trs LR outputs in the back. Where are the outputs 3 and 4, and how does this work? Looking to see if I can connect two pairs of monitors to these
Thanks for your policy of ‘always truth.’ Heritage needs a wakeup call if they think they can bill $1000 for this deeply flawed interface. That wakeup call comes from reviewers like yourself and the feedback from your audience. 👍🏽
@@Fl4ppers I’m just talking about construction quality. When you grab that gain step switch it should be rock solid. All that looseness goes straight to the PCB solder joints. I don’t know how someone charges $1,000 for that.
@@artysanmobile yeah thats not great. IMO go an extra 400 quid and get the Britstrip and use your old interface. It'll sound better and have no DSP issues for the compression/EQ.
Vastly different price points and feature sets, so I don’t think it’s really a fair comparison. Once the bug with Final Cut is resolved, I would pick this over the SSL2 though. I like the preamps with the ability to attenuate with an analog output, DSP availablilty and the dim, mono, mute for the monitors for my use case, so that’s why I’d pick it.
hmm the price tag for a simple 2in 4 out interface is very steep. I am not impressed by the sound, does not sound any better than e.g. my ssl12 and the ssl12 costs considerably less and has 12 ins (4 analog and 8 adat) and 8 outs, why the heck should i spend this much money for this few features... I dont get it
It’s pretty expensive, but I wanted to ensure consistency between the outputs, and that seemed like the best option. It does alter the impedance to 600-ohms, but I figure that’s a trade off that has to be made for the A/B tests.
Honestly for the money it's a big fail. If they really wanted to create a hit interface, they'd make the possibility to run your daw tracks through the preamps for analog mojo. 90 percent of producers would welcome that feature and actually buy the unit for that reason, so that leaves them with singer songwriters with a mic and a guitar. So for a 1000$ dollars I'd get the Neve one where it's actually possible, and it's actually a real Neve! But it's typical when a company think the engineers know what we want instead of researching a bit first.
Don’t understand some people. For just 1.000€ they want (or seem pretending) 2 nice preamps, an audio interface with its ADDA converters, the mojo mix bus… the full barrel, the drunk wife… maybe for Christmas. Sorry guy, but it sounds a little bit “too much” for just 1000€. Get something else… or gain extra money and then finally get this unit, so… get your verdict. Just watching the compare you can hear very well the difference between the warm pre and the one of this unit, for example.. so…. Really?? Don’t know the Heritage Audio company products, but they seems to be really nice in terms of quality and appreciated by the “90% of producers”, so why to judge a new product (that you did not even tried) a “big fail” just by the price? And again, I find so disrespectful saying “you don’t ask us the features we really want in an interface”.
@@heritage_audioyou guys need to lower your prices . That’s the problem. I would love to grab the i73 pro one . Just for a diff sound than my apogee . I would switch back n fourth depending on wich sound I want . And apogee symphony or a 1073 sound . At those prices it’s hard for me to consider pulling the trigger when you can get way better AD/DA in something else . And your puttin your price point at just cuz it says it has 1073 mic pre in an audio interface. Smh . Price point says high end . Review says mid . You know how many people would want this Audio interface cuz it has a 1073 pre and a digital mixer with plug in’s ? Your pro edge should be 800$ . Your pro 2 should be 600$ and your pro one should be 400$ . I guarantee ! you will make 75% increase in sales and compete with UA Apollo and Apogee symphony Desktop . We all want an audio interface with a neve 1073 style preamp. People would buy this just to have as a 2nd interface . But your prices ! Your price point ! We all would pass on this to get a UA Apollo or Symphony Desktop. And even people would pass on this for an Antelope audio interface . And there the worst customer service company in the Audio world lol . But it’s Affordable! Make it make sense Heritage Audio !!! We all want an audio interface with neve 1073 pres and DSP and plug in’s . I hope these pres can be bypassed to use a diff mic pre outboard . If I can go back n fourth with built in 1073 pre and then on certain songs use diff Analog mic pre amp mannnn smh make it happen @Heritage_audio we all love this design . I want a 1073 pre . And now it’s on an Audio interface with dsp and plug in’s !!! Make it Affordable please ! 🙏 thank you
Yes, actually I hate software plugins even if they don't run all the time. It is just a form of DRM and in 20 years will this company even exist? Who knows. Everything analog is much better result for less time wasted anyhow, though more expensive.
If you need SUPER clean preamps (eg recording classical music) then the RME is great for that. It can also be configured to work standalone iirc, with an external drive (like a posh Zoom H6). The RME has much lower latency and support for older computers too. The mixer fx are sh*t though.
@@SteveRobz1 yeah the rme would work for that. Just need to make sure you have a good mic that records all those articulations in the voice (sony c range is good for that)
Why aren't people talking about the new motu 828, with that money one can get that. Interfaces can never be outboard gears like compressors and eqs no matter how hard they try, 10 to 20 years time, computer softwares and engineering will force them out of time, while outboard gears like eqs and compressors remain, unless they have a way those mic pres can be bypassed without the use of the Interface. If I have the money, I'll buy outboard gears and go for a good interface just for conversion and not the excellent pres.
I have no idea why other people don’t cover it. For me, I simply don’t have space for more rack stuff so I don’t keep up with it and a cursory glance at it,that device doesn’t really fit my needs. I would prefer to have a minimum of 4 mic preamps on a rack interface because I will many times have 3-4 mics connected and I want the same pre. For those who run primarily outboard gear, the fact it has so many line inputs would be very helpful though.
Headphone control my ass. There's absolutely no knobs to control the headphone jack. The damn thing nearly blew my ears out. How do you have an audio interface with gain knobs to control the microphone but no knobs to control the headphone jacks independently. Cash grab indeed.
Great review! I might have missed it because I was jumping around between the tests but what are those 2 green squares on the interface for? Are they purely aesthetic?
Thank you Daniel.
@@danielbleumink ohh sweet. Maybe also helps cool them down keeping them exposed...
Long time no see my man!! I've always found this channel helpful man you gave me power to start my own studio back in my 9th grade, now im 4th college IT study.
Feels so good to see you after all these years happy and healthier!! ( Where's your belly bro I'm like hahahaha ) man thank you so much for everything
Your dear friend and subscriber,
- Deler
Thank you for voicing the concern about software being run al the time. I have no objection to software stuff in general but it's not something I'd be running 100% of the time. After all, sometimes I want to have a very old and slow lappy (it will die if new software was to be installed there) and I would still love to have this thing to work with it too.
Thanks so much for checking it out Ducky. Yeah for many people they may not care about the software, but if you lose a lot of function with the software closed, that’s a con for me.
Really glad I watched this review as I was about to pull the trigger on this unit, I Went with another unit and am very pleased. So thank you. Will wait till the kinks are out.
At $1,000 all switches, pots, and connectors should be chassis mounted metal-bushing parts. A PCB mounted rotary switch is a recipe for early failure & practically screams ‘cash grab.’ Shame. There’s no excuse at this price.
Facts
I didn't expect such a huge diff in the mids between BAE and Heritage but it's there. The Heritage has more upper mid harmonics (that I actually don't like) whereas BAE is more saturated in the low mid, making it sound thicker.
Yeah I agree The Heritage sounds wimpy compared to the BAE. Your comment made me no longer want the Heritage for postcast like stuff.
@@hyprz I think BAE is kind of a little different from the vintage Neve stuff. A little more smiley curve or darker if you will. The top end sounds very similar though. I think both Heritage and BAE nail the top end and the bottom end. Heritage gets a little closer to nailing the midrange as well. Well the full fat 8000 series rack unit that I heard anyway. I don't know about the pres in this interface. But you need the EQ really. Without that it's not exactly like a 1073. More like a 1272.
Huge diff over the warm, kind of crazy how close to the BAE.
Honest review as usual :) Great demonstration.
was watching/playing your demos of this last night
I think the interface is cool. One point that needs to be brought up are the two HUGE transformers (green boxes you see). This isn't emulated pre's or something. It's a legit 1073 style pre with transformers. I'm not sure if there is an input AND output transformer though, although I know their rack units do have input and output transformers.
I used the dual pre/eq rack unit for about 3 years from Heritage and I found the sound a little too modern, bright, and clean compared to a Neve or a BAE. If you like the 1073 but want a little less vibe/color and something that is maybe a bit more friendly, the Heritage is great.
I don't love mixer software and I really don't like mixer software that always has to be open.
Heritage also needs to include ADAT on all of its interfaces for outboard gear, recording more tracks, and mixing purposes.
Why aren't people talking about the new motu 828, with that money one can get that. Interfaces can never outboard gears like compressors and eqs no matter how hard they try, 10 to 20 years time, computer softwares and engineering will force them out of time, while outboard gears like eqs and compressors remain, unless they have a way those mic pres can be bypassed without the use of the Interface. If I have the money, I'll buy outboard gears and go for a good interface just for conversion and not the excellent pres.
@@rodneyplatinummix7798 I love Motu. I use the 16a for running outboard when I mix or multitracking. Great for summing. Heritage should add adat to all their interfaces for 8 more tracks. You can sync with a 8 mic pre rack unit, patch bay, something like a Ferrofish converter. All sorts of options with those 8 tracks.
Great review as always. There is a 2 in 4 out for $650. The pro one. At the end of the day. I would go with an Apollo. The pres are super clean and I could and have gotten the 1073 sound with a plugin
If this had a pair of effects sends/returns post preamp, it would be a no brainer!
great review man thank you!
Thanks for this, how did the AD/DA sound to your ears? Specifically while mixing... Thank you!
I would to see you do a video on the warm audio 73 also curious to see you review the wa8000
Thanks for the review. Thanks for the music!
You’re welcome. Thank you very much for checking out the video and the music.
It sounds congested compared to the outboard. Better to buy an interface with a quality line input that bypasses mic pres and get a quality outboard pre. Then you are not stuck with one distinct pre flavour. Thanks for excellent review.
Currently waiting for Bandrew to review the sE Electronics T1/T2
Yes, great mics. The T1 is good for drums and percussion so hope he breaks out a tambourine or something 😅
WA73: "is there a Doctor in the house?"...Bad Case Of Loving You (Doctor Doctor)...hello Mr. Palmer...
Can you please review Roland Bridge Cast? 👀
Have you checked out the Neve88m yet? trying to decide between these two to record rap vocals with my TF51
go with neve 88m outclass
The riff was so good tho
FYI: BAE 1073 DMP is not an accurate representation of a 1073.
There is no EQ and only 70 dB of gain, while the original has 80 dB.
BAE 1073 DMP is not the real deal!
Suggestions for good quality lcd xlr mic that sounds good for bass vocals?
I'm curious to know if HA addresses the fact that the mixer needs to be open at all times for monitoring. This sort of a deal breaker for me. The unit seems fantastic otherwise. We need more competition in the DSP space so props to HA. Also noted is the higher noise floor in the low end which may be problematic for me. Thank you for the excellent review!
Working on that!
@@heritage_audio Great to hear thank you for getting back to me on that!
I've got a possibly extremely silly question... but what are those two big blue square.... things at the top of the input channels?!?
Unless I’m mistaken those are the transformers.
Hello, I see that there are four outputs in the specs ( monitor LR, outputs 3 4) but only two trs LR outputs in the back. Where are the outputs 3 and 4, and how does this work? Looking to see if I can connect two pairs of monitors to these
L/R headphone output. Edit: FYI the i73 Pro Edge has second set of 1/4 outputs, but the edge 2 does not.
low key hilarious😂... good review
Danke!
Thank you so much Rainer! The support truly means the world to me and helps in continuing to produce these videos.
What are the green squares above each channel?
Transformers.
Thanks for your policy of ‘always truth.’ Heritage needs a wakeup call if they think they can bill $1000 for this deeply flawed interface. That wakeup call comes from reviewers like yourself and the feedback from your audience. 👍🏽
Their standalone pres are better than this tbh. They might fix the software though so lets see.
@@Fl4ppers I’m just talking about construction quality. When you grab that gain step switch it should be rock solid. All that looseness goes straight to the PCB solder joints. I don’t know how someone charges $1,000 for that.
@@artysanmobile yeah thats not great. IMO go an extra 400 quid and get the Britstrip and use your old interface. It'll sound better and have no DSP issues for the compression/EQ.
@@Fl4ppers Thanks for the tip. I’m all set in that regard but I like to call manufacturers out for bad design. It really does help.
if you wish to buy a buggy dsp interface i believe that antelope offers are just unbeatable.
Just buy RME interfaces and outboard preamps and rest easy.
Is it better than Apollo for rap
@@SteveRobz1 Better is subjective. I’d say its drivers, stability, latency and routing flexibility are in favor of RME.
Hmmmmm... There is a 60 hz bump in all the tests...
Wow nice !! This our Ssl2??
Vastly different price points and feature sets, so I don’t think it’s really a fair comparison. Once the bug with Final Cut is resolved, I would pick this over the SSL2 though. I like the preamps with the ability to attenuate with an analog output, DSP availablilty and the dim, mono, mute for the monitors for my use case, so that’s why I’d pick it.
@@Podcastageyes you right!This is a great video ✌🏼 very professional be cool
hmm the price tag for a simple 2in 4 out interface is very steep. I am not impressed by the sound, does not sound any better than e.g. my ssl12 and the ssl12 costs considerably less and has 12 ins (4 analog and 8 adat) and 8 outs, why the heck should i spend this much money for this few features... I dont get it
What mic splitter are you using? Radial?
WAIT! You got hair..?!
Yup. Radial. Me? Hair? That’s a malicious lie.
@@Podcastage trying to get the Radial over here in the UK but seems sold out everywhere. Not many alternatives in the same price bracket.
It’s pretty expensive, but I wanted to ensure consistency between the outputs, and that seemed like the best option. It does alter the impedance to 600-ohms, but I figure that’s a trade off that has to be made for the A/B tests.
stand in box, smart move...
no ADAT???? why????
They have ADAT on the 73 pro edge, but not pro 2.
Why not in 4K anymore🥲
Export error. Should have been 4k.
@@Podcastage 🥹🥹alright. Love your content anyway
👍🏽
Honestly for the money it's a big fail. If they really wanted to create a hit interface, they'd make the possibility to run your daw tracks through the preamps for analog mojo. 90 percent of producers would welcome that feature and actually buy the unit for that reason, so that leaves them with singer songwriters with a mic and a guitar. So for a 1000$ dollars I'd get the Neve one where it's actually possible, and it's actually a real Neve! But it's typical when a company think the engineers know what we want instead of researching a bit first.
Don’t understand some people. For just 1.000€ they want (or seem pretending) 2 nice preamps, an audio interface with its ADDA converters, the mojo mix bus… the full barrel, the drunk wife… maybe for Christmas.
Sorry guy, but it sounds a little bit “too much” for just 1000€. Get something else… or gain extra money and then finally get this unit, so… get your verdict. Just watching the compare you can hear very well the difference between the warm pre and the one of this unit, for example.. so…. Really??
Don’t know the Heritage Audio company products, but they seems to be really nice in terms of quality and appreciated by the “90% of producers”, so why to judge a new product (that you did not even tried) a “big fail” just by the price? And again, I find so disrespectful saying “you don’t ask us the features we really want in an interface”.
‘..stand in box.’ Chicken..
Accurate.
Because you couldn't throw the box it's a no from me 😆
Yeah, with that price range no adat outs. Dual headphones and dials that r wobbly. I'll pass
You should check on the i73 PRO EDGE with ADAT in/out and dual hp and monitor outs.
I'll check into it. I do like what y'all have done. However , I'm leaning towards the presonus quantum hd 2 or the hd8
@@heritage_audioyou guys need to lower your prices . That’s the problem. I would love to grab the i73 pro one . Just for a diff sound than my apogee . I would switch back n fourth depending on wich sound I want . And apogee symphony or a 1073 sound . At those prices it’s hard for me to consider pulling the trigger when you can get way better AD/DA in something else . And your puttin your price point at just cuz it says it has 1073 mic pre in an audio interface. Smh . Price point says high end . Review says mid . You know how many people would want this Audio interface cuz it has a 1073 pre and a digital mixer with plug in’s ? Your pro edge should be 800$ . Your pro 2 should be 600$ and your pro one should be 400$ . I guarantee ! you will make 75% increase in sales and compete with UA Apollo and Apogee symphony Desktop . We all want an audio interface with a neve 1073 style preamp. People would buy this just to have as a 2nd interface . But your prices ! Your price point ! We all would pass on this to get a UA Apollo or Symphony Desktop. And even people would pass on this for an Antelope audio interface . And there the worst customer service company in the Audio world lol . But it’s Affordable! Make it make sense Heritage Audio !!! We all want an audio interface with neve 1073 pres and DSP and plug in’s . I hope these pres can be bypassed to use a diff mic pre outboard . If I can go back n fourth with built in 1073 pre and then on certain songs use diff Analog mic pre amp mannnn smh make it happen @Heritage_audio we all love this design . I want a 1073 pre . And now it’s on an Audio interface with dsp and plug in’s !!! Make it Affordable please ! 🙏 thank you
Santana
Yes, actually I hate software plugins even if they don't run all the time. It is just a form of DRM and in 20 years will this company even exist? Who knows. Everything analog is much better result for less time wasted anyhow, though more expensive.
And rme ucx2?
If you need SUPER clean preamps (eg recording classical music) then the RME is great for that. It can also be configured to work standalone iirc, with an external drive (like a posh Zoom H6). The RME has much lower latency and support for older computers too. The mixer fx are sh*t though.
@@SteveRobz1 yeah the rme would work for that. Just need to make sure you have a good mic that records all those articulations in the voice (sony c range is good for that)
@@SteveRobz1 perrrfect 👍
Fact checking at it's finest
Why aren't people talking about the new motu 828, with that money one can get that. Interfaces can never be outboard gears like compressors and eqs no matter how hard they try, 10 to 20 years time, computer softwares and engineering will force them out of time, while outboard gears like eqs and compressors remain, unless they have a way those mic pres can be bypassed without the use of the Interface. If I have the money, I'll buy outboard gears and go for a good interface just for conversion and not the excellent pres.
I have no idea why other people don’t cover it. For me, I simply don’t have space for more rack stuff so I don’t keep up with it and a cursory glance at it,that device doesn’t really fit my needs. I would prefer to have a minimum of 4 mic preamps on a rack interface because I will many times have 3-4 mics connected and I want the same pre. For those who run primarily outboard gear, the fact it has so many line inputs would be very helpful though.
the hum around 60hz is insane yor heritage is probably fault , the bae 1073 is awesome the 18i20 is a completly bullshit
It's $1,000 and still made in China right next to the $20 copycat clone Chinese model with a different name. 😂.
Apollo Twin X is better.
hahaha, the warm audio device. This company is a joke.
The wa87 R2 is really the best product they have . The wa67 too . The rest of there gear is expensive trash 🚮
This this is built like $200 interface lol
Like a $299 interface lol the price tag is diabolical lol 😂
Headphone control my ass. There's absolutely no knobs to control the headphone jack. The damn thing nearly blew my ears out. How do you have an audio interface with gain knobs to control the microphone but no knobs to control the headphone jacks independently. Cash grab indeed.