Magic Player Rates Yu-Gi-Oh! Power Levels!

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  • @CardmarketYGO
    @CardmarketYGO  ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Here's the cards from this day's session of Staple or Stinker! Get Snow before they ban it again for being too good:
    bit.ly/3Uj1ndA

    • @lz9275
      @lz9275 ปีที่แล้ว

      please ban it already, Konami

    • @awesometubing9471
      @awesometubing9471 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Yu-Gi-Oh girl gave away the 2nd card before the MTG could say stinker or staple. Also Magical Mallet is underrated AF I use it in TCG OTS tournament play and it's when I know my cards can't affect my opponents board.
      Very sloppy representation of Yu-Gi-Oh, sorry to sound sexist. But every guy on this channel has done a way better deck.

    • @awesometubing9471
      @awesometubing9471 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lz9275 it's not even that busted. DD crow, called by the Grave ECT. It's okay at 1

    • @awesometubing9471
      @awesometubing9471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also Soul Absorbing Bone tower doesn't even closely do what this "Yu-Gi-Oh player" said it does. It sends the top 2 cards when a zombie monster is special summoned. Not 3 or whatever number she said. Sorry if this was your audition for if she would be good for another video she has failed. Next girl please.

    • @awesometubing9471
      @awesometubing9471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also when is banishing hard to get at? Virtual World does it easily and can do it every turn. Burial from a Different Dimension ect.

  • @monkfishy6348
    @monkfishy6348 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    That Mayakashi was the most evil Staple or Stinker I've ever seen.

    • @vv2955
      @vv2955 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      If Dakki was printed in a good archetype she'd be broken as shit. Not even once per turn.

    • @dracompb966
      @dracompb966 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I'd argue when they put Theseus in, that was more brutal, but Dakki is a close second

    • @timisgrindgames4663
      @timisgrindgames4663 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      It was completly unfair.. The card itself is amazing but the archtype Not. How should a mtg Player know this? 😂

    • @nikolaskohl4269
      @nikolaskohl4269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But I do like the look of, Yes!, she had when her trap pick activated. It's so YGO : )

    • @Master_Xi
      @Master_Xi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracompb966 theseus already shown on previous episode

  • @gunnybears
    @gunnybears ปีที่แล้ว +650

    14:07 Remove from play is actually the same as banish, just a different name from when they reworked card text iirc
    What I find helps when explaining Yugioh cards to MTG players is to use terminology they're familiar with, ex:
    Banish - Exile
    Quick Effect - Instant speed/Flash
    Piercing - Trample
    Might also help to explain some more key gameplay differences, such as Yugioh monsters having haste by default, or how their effects are sorcery speed unless specified to be a quick effect

    • @MrMarnel
      @MrMarnel ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Yeah, also Tribute - Sacrifice and Negate - Counter, even though not quite the same get the point across. I also like to explain summons like land plays. You have one a turn, the normal summon, but card effects can both give you additional (Floow, Explore) or put lands into play without costing it (Special Summons, Rampant Growth).

    • @RMSLtnick
      @RMSLtnick ปีที่แล้ว +14

      well i'd consider banish face down as Remove from play tbh because banishing face up doesnt nececarily strip the card of its effect Or in the case of stuff that RETURNS specific card types from the banish pile (think for example D.D.R) It cannot target Face down banished cards... because for all intents and purposes them being face down makes them "typeless"

    • @heianji42
      @heianji42 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Remove from play is banish when PSCT didnt really exist

    • @caasinotwen231
      @caasinotwen231 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@RMSLtnick just to say that some cards like PSY-Framelord Omega can still get facedown banished cards back, as soon as it didn't specify any card info of the card that it can get back

    • @akellis11
      @akellis11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also snow can be used aggressively during your battle phase to deal additional damage. It is not once per turn or once per chain, you can use it again if your opponent plays something that would remove it from the GY or negate its effects for the rest of the turn. (d.d. Crow, skull meister, called by the grave, cross out designator)

  • @TuffLP
    @TuffLP ปีที่แล้ว +97

    That 7 Dwarfs thing blew my mind.

  • @Ultraempoleon
    @Ultraempoleon ปีที่แล้ว +258

    She actually did well especially considering the ones she got wrong were trick questions

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Mayakashi would require knowing that Mayakashi aren't that good. The rest are pretty much "is this a good effect with a good condition or not?" and just require a bit of inference about the meta. Like, everyone who played Yugioh knew that Snow was absolutely busted on release (disruption, barely a cost, and not OPT) and that Witch's Strike requires your opponent to do something specific (which is always bad). Magical Mallet is building your deck around your deck being bad.

    • @MrZer093
      @MrZer093 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      While you are right about Snow, the player base was absolutely divided about Strike and Mallet upon reveal. Mallet was quickly figured out by most as being bad for the reason you said (namely it’s only good if you have a lot of cards you don’t want to draw and at that point, you should build your deck better) but it took a while for Strike because well, negates were and are still rather common and that is a helluva payoff it has there. But the most potent negates get used on the first turn and this wouldn’t be live at that point and thus that slot is better used for a card that can continue your combos over hoping your opponent wrecks yours

    • @barongeoffrey75
      @barongeoffrey75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kylora2112 I would like a retrain of Magical mallet where cards aren't shuffled but put bottom.

    • @bhumibolrushing7830
      @bhumibolrushing7830 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't call them trick questions..but she did very well regardless..hopefully we can see these two again doing this

    • @KeshavKrishnan
      @KeshavKrishnan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barongeoffrey75 imagine... Mystical mallet

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Traps and quick play spells are also spell speed 2. Only counter traps cannot be chained to except by other counter traps.

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was about to comment exactly this

    • @fares1752
      @fares1752 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even counter traps can’t respond to counter traps i think

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@fares1752 Yes they can. Reboot hits judgment for example

    • @fares1752
      @fares1752 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GodzillaFreak but can judgement negate a judgement ?

    • @myearphonesaredeadandsoami2529
      @myearphonesaredeadandsoami2529 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@fares1752 Absolutely. Cl1 judgment cl2 reboot cl3 judgment cl4 reboot has been a running joke way back 2018.

  • @Amraphenson
    @Amraphenson ปีที่แล้ว +55

    While a lot of people have already commented on easy 1-to-1 comparisons on magic to ygo (banish is exile, piercing is trample), there's another one I really like: the extra deck is a 15 card commander zone. THAT tends to get across a lot.

  • @MagicianOfFlame
    @MagicianOfFlame ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This was a lot of fun. Great host and participant!
    Altho I would avoid archetype specific cards, cuz that feels like cheating lol.

    • @scarletterose1303
      @scarletterose1303 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah cause Dakki is a core card of a Mayakashi deck that you have to play to get the deck going BUT Mayakashi monsters are very weak and also can't be mixed with other archetypes due to their effects locking you into only Mayakashi monsters.

    • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
      @vaulthunterfromterra4053 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like mixing Mayakashi with Shiranui because there both part of the same canon, and they can actually do some combo stuff with each other too.

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of archetype cards are still staples, such as Snow and Pankratops. And some are technically not but are still tied to archetypes, such as Evenly Matched and Forbidden Droplet.

    • @MagicianOfFlame
      @MagicianOfFlame ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@user-fe8gx3ie5v true about these examples, but cards like Dakki are 100% dependent on their archetype.
      If there were synchros or links that search and/or boss monsters that are Swordsoul level strong, Dakki would be a staple

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicianOfFlame Yes, but as I mentioned, that's not always the case, so calling it cheating is only half-true.

  • @SaraphDarklaw
    @SaraphDarklaw ปีที่แล้ว +273

    This series is always fun. I’m glad it’s continuing.

  • @AnRuixuan
    @AnRuixuan ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Anika had really good intuition, even for the cards she didn't get totally right she still had the right logic, just didn't know how the cards operated in the context of the game as a whole.

    • @4343ize
      @4343ize ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was right, dakki is really good card. Sadly the archetype is mediocre.

  • @RondoceanMan
    @RondoceanMan ปีที่แล้ว +84

    A good comparison for explaining the extra deck to magic players would be to say they’re like a deck of companion creatures. Great video!

    • @SyxxPunk
      @SyxxPunk ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I had an MtG player give me a look and say "Why?" when I explained that the Extra Deck is basically 15 Companions.

    • @petrie911
      @petrie911 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think describing it as a deck of 15 companions would probably scare them away from the game.

    • @MrMeltJr
      @MrMeltJr ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@petrie911 I don't play YGO but it's my understanding that most extra deck stuff is getting special summoned directly to the field, so it's like the original companion rules when they were super broken.

    • @tyvirus1
      @tyvirus1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've always thought of it as a pure wish board... that doesn't take up the sideboard.... ygo is just a bunch of Johnnies being Spikes

  • @dark-kounoupidaki3764
    @dark-kounoupidaki3764 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Had leoni played magic this would be so much better and easier to explain for both of them.
    The ability to translate terms in between card games is crucial for a video like this.
    Quick play => Instant speed
    Negate => counter
    And the contestant would understand everything there is to understand just like they did with tribute => sacrifice.

    • @heianji42
      @heianji42 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just so I can be a bit finicky I think counter = negate activation :D
      But yeah this screams to people who know both well.

    • @dark-kounoupidaki3764
      @dark-kounoupidaki3764 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@heianji42 there are cards that say counter target activated ability and others counter target spell, it's like the differentiation between solemn strike and solemn Judgment. So I'd say negate is counter and that's not up for debate

    • @heianji42
      @heianji42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dark-kounoupidaki3764 Hmm, I guess you're right, it's kinda hard to compare at this level, since ygo summons just happen, no activations, while mtg summons go on stack too.

    • @hannessteffenhagen61
      @hannessteffenhagen61 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dark-kounoupidaki3764 "Negating" and "counter" is a bit difficult in Yu-Gi-Oh because Yu-Gi-Oh distinguishes between negating the _activation_ of a card or effect, negating an effect and negating the effects of a card.

    • @dark-kounoupidaki3764
      @dark-kounoupidaki3764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannessteffenhagen61 there are cards that say counter target activated ability and others counter target spell, it's like the differentiation between solemn strike and solemn Judgment. So I'd say negate is counter and that's not up for debate

  • @mordredgx
    @mordredgx ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Imma be honest the 7 dwarves relation never crossed my mind before

  • @lucadivine3862
    @lucadivine3862 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    This woman's a magic player, you can just tell her "quick effect" means instant speed and "banish" means exile and she'll understand...

    • @laramsturatheramsey6089
      @laramsturatheramsey6089 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      yugioh players teaching magic players about their card game like it's a foreigner being taught English for the first time

    • @cleffadonk
      @cleffadonk ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Maybe the ygo player doesn’t know the magic terminology

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@cleffadonk You'd think they'd have a YGO player that understands the basics of Magic, and vice versa, for these things.

    • @mystrenula3911
      @mystrenula3911 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kylora2112 it not being vice versa is the point of the videos though

    • @quantumlolliepop5472
      @quantumlolliepop5472 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@mystrenula3911 I'd imagine they mean that the "expert" of the cards being looked at should understand the basics of the other game.
      This type of video would have the Yugioh player who understands Magic.
      When it's a Yugioh player guessing Magic cards, they bring in the mtg player who understands Yugioh.

  • @WingedEspeon
    @WingedEspeon ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The key with witches strike is yu-gi-oh has 2 kinds of negates: negate the activation and negate the effect. Witches strike only works when the activation is negated.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's a trap (slow) that requires a specific action from your opponent (bad). It's a 4th turn card for a 2 turn game.

  • @benito1620
    @benito1620 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Witch's strike is the same spell speed as fairytail snows quick effect.
    Removed from play is the same as (face-up) banishing.

    • @wioshirakiin
      @wioshirakiin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By Snow being faster, she probably meant that Snow doesn't have to be set for a turn before being able to use her effect... but yeah, they're both spell speed 2.

    • @J.Crime123
      @J.Crime123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mk30b25 Stardust Dragon has also a trigger to be fullfilled to be able to use his quick effect. So saying one is faster because it has the term "quick" doesnt make sense.

    • @mk30b25
      @mk30b25 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@J.Crime123 more so that cards that has a trigger are slower while being in the same spell speed tier.

  • @sallas09
    @sallas09 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    To add another point about why Fairy Tail Snow is so good that wasn't really elaborated on: On top of the facts you already mentioned, where it can be used as many times per turn as you are able, at quick effect speed, and in response to effects that would disrupt it, it's flip-face-down effect is also incredibly potent for disrupting plays. It probably goes without saying but it's important to remember: its flip-face-down effect also triggers when it's summoned by its own summoning condition, not just from a Normal Summon or from another card's effect. Say your opponent activates Emergency Teleport with hopes of summoning a monster from the deck, you chain Snow's GY effect to summon it and then after that chain resolves, a new chain starts and Snow's field effect triggers, flipping their summoned monster face-down, so now it can't be used for any more combos or plays that need it to be face-up. This includes almost all Extra Deck summoning, and any effect that requires a face-up monster with specific stats. Snow is incredibly powerful in a deck that loves loading up the GY, like Tearlament.

    • @HeraldOfOpera
      @HeraldOfOpera ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heck, flipping something facedown in MtG would be pretty nasty as it is, and Yugioh only really makes it easier to flip it back face-up.

    • @darkira2129
      @darkira2129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      iirc you still can fusion summon with flipped-down monster.

    • @HeraldOfOpera
      @HeraldOfOpera ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darkira2129 Yep, but all other Extra Deck plays require them to be face-up (except the Ghostrick Link, because Ghostricks are silly).

    • @jis11
      @jis11 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot this: You can trigger the effect of topologic bomber dragon 4-5 times in 1 turn

    • @ZorrilloAlx
      @ZorrilloAlx ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, snow is amazing to dodge anything that targets, like called by, and imperm, it's also great to finish a chain, since you can use the cards you already activated to prevent targeting negation, and I've used her against evenly matched to banish cards face up instead of face down.

  • @DaemonRayge
    @DaemonRayge ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I honestly am getting addicted to these types of series. Always a blast to watch.

  • @The_Nowhere_Man
    @The_Nowhere_Man ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I like this series but Leoni seems to have a few misconceptions of her own about how things work. For instance, Fairy-Tail Snow and Witch's Strike have the same Spell-Speed. The difference is a trap usually must be set before being activated, and cannot usually be activated the same turn it was set. Similarly, Banishing and Removed from Play are the same thing.
    This is a really interesting series but it does sort of misrepresent the current game somewhat, especially if YGO player is wrong about things like this!

    • @mistriousfrog
      @mistriousfrog ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah, the explanation for several of these cards was pretty bad. Take benten, I wouldnt in any way describe it as as staple. it is good in exactly 1 deck that hasn't been meta relevent for several years. Daki meets the same criteria except that its home deck wasn't ever meta relevant. Witch's strike is bad for several reasons, none of which are the ones that she gave. Snow was actually a decent explanation, the non once per turn, useable during your opponents turn for disruption, or your own to put bodies on the board is what makes it kind of busted.

    • @rescuerex7031
      @rescuerex7031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mistriousfrog I mean it was the best deck because of Benten once Benten got limited it stopped being the best deck

    • @0scarWalsh
      @0scarWalsh ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mistriousfrog "1 deck that hasn't been meta relevant in years"
      Drytron was definitely topping last year (and probably has pre-PotE tops from early this year), not sure if you know what you're talking about.

    • @scoutbane1651
      @scoutbane1651 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mistriousfrog Drytron was tier 1 for like half of 2021 wtf are you talking about "several years"

    • @Momosexual
      @Momosexual ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think when explaining how Traps in Yu-Gi-Oh work, they should just say "It needs to be set on the field first but will have summoning sickness basically, but will be an instant speed after the turn passes."

  • @rontanamo_bae
    @rontanamo_bae ปีที่แล้ว +20

    its interesting to see a magic player applying their knowledge of mtg to yu gi oh. it makes for fun discussions about how different the mechanics in each game are. Great video

  • @freedomrichter
    @freedomrichter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "oh my gosh that is so cute" is what we all think when we first see Snow. Then we play against it

  • @CaptainMarvel4Ever
    @CaptainMarvel4Ever ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Her appreciating the card artwork was soooooooo wholesome.

  • @giannispapakrivopoulos5455
    @giannispapakrivopoulos5455 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cards like Benten and dakki are archetype cards (it resulted in every ritual deck nowadays having synergy with benten) so they aren't really the best to use for these types of quizzes.
    Btw I think magic has a card that is like snow but banishes 3 from the grave only and it is awful.

    • @CardmarketYGO
      @CardmarketYGO  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Snow would be so busted if it only banished 3 cards.
      - Adam

    • @yogi_gs
      @yogi_gs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CardmarketYGO Snow banish 3 only ?
      It will become
      "Unlimited summon works"

    • @giannispapakrivopoulos5455
      @giannispapakrivopoulos5455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's not give Konami ideas guys

    • @MrMarnel
      @MrMarnel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you thinking of Escape cards? Ox of Agonas is pretty close to Snow's banish cost and has been decent in the past, but those are probably affected more by mana cost than the exile cost.

  • @yoshimitsu5537
    @yoshimitsu5537 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the Staple or Stinker series (and it's Magic equivalent). They are what got me to subscribe to Cardmarket.
    That last suggestion sounds really fun too (learn each other's different games and play a Yu-Gi-Oh match then an MTG match).

  • @MrMarnel
    @MrMarnel ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Witch's Strike always gets everyone the first time. It can take lots of text or multiple minutes to explain exactly why the card isn't great, but I think the easiest way is to imagine the scenario in which the card is useful (you have it set on the field since at least the previous turn, you attempt to do something and your opponent negates it) which is already not the simplest thing in the world and then add a bunch of stipulations like the fact that it has to negate an activation, many commonly played cards don't turn it on, some decks hardly ever care about it etc. It also could be said that it'd be an entirely different story if the card was Quick-play and not a Trap.
    Spell speeds in Yugioh are kinda like the old Interrupt rules in Magic, although it's unlikely lots of people played with those, and the game didn't use the "Stack" for resolving multiple spells and abilities back then but a batch system. It's best not getting into that for hose videos probably, but analogies do exist.

    • @florinalinmarginean1135
      @florinalinmarginean1135 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, the card only cares about negation, even effect negations like Ash Blossom will do. It's just slow and some decks won't even attempt to negate anything you do, but try to grind you out or lock you out with floodgates

    • @MrMarnel
      @MrMarnel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@florinalinmarginean1135 Witch's Strike specifically cares for an effect's activation being negated and Ash doesn't do that. Note how the wording differs between cards like Ash and Baronne.

    • @mistriousfrog
      @mistriousfrog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@florinalinmarginean1135 Witch's strike only gets turned on by activation negations, which is rarer than effect negation. This makes it doubly bad because the main source of activation negation are the solemn trap line, which are a series of counter traps, so witch's strike actually is not allowed to activate in response to them.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy explanation its only live turn 3/4 and yugioh is a game mostly played on turn 1 and 2.
      Witchs strike is also not a counter trap so it gets negated by monster effects and can't respond to counter traps.

    • @MrMarnel
      @MrMarnel ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mistriousfrog That's not a problem of the card actually. Witch's Strike is never activated in response to anything, it starts a new chain after the chain in which your activation or summon was negated finishes resolving. It'd be strictly better if it was a counter trap because then it couldn't be negated by monster quick effects, cause those are spell speed 2, but it wouldn't change how it currently plays at all. It can be used after Solemns just fine.

  • @saramuoz
    @saramuoz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great series! However, I'd try to avoid cards that require knowledge of the larger meta or cardpool like Dakki. Since she read the power of the effect correctly but had no way of knowing there was no support for the archtype, it felt a little unfair.

  • @tk-zay5073
    @tk-zay5073 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Great card choices. Witch’s Strike is the ultimate bait

    • @dante3406
      @dante3406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've played a lot of YGO (albeit not in the last few years though) and when they read it, I thought, "wait, I haven't heard of this but it seems kinda insane?"

    • @wakapout630
      @wakapout630 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dante3406 Yes when it resolves the card is really really insane, it's kind of bad because it's pretty hard to resolve.

    • @Vargalf
      @Vargalf ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RSFArocks You can use it after a solemn strike/judgment, In fact that is some of the only cards that actually do trigger it, it just activates in a new chain instead of being in response.

    • @bambangw7134
      @bambangw7134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RSFArocks That would be beyond broken as only other counter trap can now negate Witch's Strike. No baronne, no borelload, whatever.

    • @HeraldOfOpera
      @HeraldOfOpera ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bambangw7134 It's still a trap.

  • @renatayuuki5705
    @renatayuuki5705 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She's too cute trying to guess the Yugioh cards and it was funny her calling the levels dragon balls

  • @bl00by_
    @bl00by_ ปีที่แล้ว +34

    3:55 Should we tell her that Benten is semi-limited?
    Edit: 12:50 Should we also tell her that Traps are also Spell Speed 2?
    Edit 2: 14:08 Should we also also tell her that a card being banished and a card being "removed from play" is the same thing?

    • @benito1620
      @benito1620 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Should we tell her removed from play is the same as banished (face-up).

    • @Nicxem
      @Nicxem ปีที่แล้ว

      I was very confused

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@benito1620 2 Idiots had the same thought I guess lol

    • @bubbasgotback431
      @bubbasgotback431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh I’m not sure. Maybe we shouldn’t tell them those things.

    • @loki.winter
      @loki.winter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Benten is limited in Master Duel so she's not wrong. She has stated before that she doesn't play TCG a lot but plays a lot of Master Duel.

  • @TheWinterPhoenix
    @TheWinterPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Quick effect is faster than this trap card" that is incorrect. Spell speed wise they are the same the trap card is just more situational and has an activation requirement. Another small nitpick is she said banish and remove from play are different in yugioh which is also not correct. Every old card that says "remove from play" means banish.
    As a general rule here is the spell speed list:
    Spell speed 1: Normal spells, field spells, continuous spells, and monster effects.
    Spell speed 2: Trap and trap effects (normal and continuous), quick play spells, and quick effect monster effects.
    Spell Speed 3: Counter traps.

    • @CaamSerenity
      @CaamSerenity ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think she might have meant "removed face down", which is the same zone as "normal" banished but there are only really few ways you can interact with face-down banished cards. Nonetheless, you are correct in pointing out that difference

    • @tyllisvfx
      @tyllisvfx ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she meant banish face down rather than remove from play

  • @Cloud_J_Roffle
    @Cloud_J_Roffle ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Isn't a Staple a card that you can play in every deck ? Benten is neither a staple or a stinker tho 🤔
    But really nice video, this concept is dope!!

    • @anond2015
      @anond2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a uniquely Yu-Gi-Oh thing. Since there are no mana colors, all the best spells go into most decks.
      In that case, no monsters could ever be staples. In most games, the term just means a good card that sees a lot of play.

  • @69Bloodstreaks
    @69Bloodstreaks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For future videos if a Magic player asks what a quick effect is, say its just like an instant spell in Magic, they work the same way you just do them at any time as long as you meet the requirements

  • @abcrx32j
    @abcrx32j ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:00 I think at that point Anika doesn't realize how broken that effect would be in Yugioh

    • @sicarius4749
      @sicarius4749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would be? She's describing Card Destruction.

  • @sjaakbakker9944
    @sjaakbakker9944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Exodia decks: magical mallet is great. Wittch’s strike would be way better if it wasn’t so slow. Also not mentioned how changing a monster face down can interrupt your opponent’s effects.

  • @isoultanic6200
    @isoultanic6200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So only a few things ppl probably pointed out, Banish is remove from play it was changed to banish as a key word in the game to shorten text. Also Trap cards and quick effects are spell speed 2 so they can be activated in a chain. Otherwise great video. Also witch's strike is only when a cards activation is negated not when a effect is negated

    • @JDC2890
      @JDC2890 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most trap cards are spell speed 2. Counter-trap cards are spell speed 3, and the only category of card in that speed.

  • @c42viper31
    @c42viper31 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it be would be really fun to show them something like cannon soldier or something that is good because it's either a soft once per turn or just not a once per turn

  • @papsi89
    @papsi89 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a good series, and I do like seeing how different players view different cards from a game they're not familiar with. One bit critique is the same as many pointed out: if the host had knowledge of how both games work, it would make it much better I think. It would allow the host to explain how a card words a lot more clearly than if they didn't. An example, would be when she just stated how tribute is equivalent to sacrifice, however, when it came to banishing, it felt like even she didn't entirely know what it meant. I say this as Removed From Play, and Banish, are the same thing, there is not a banish zone, or a removed from play zone, and if she just said that banish is equivalent to exile, it would have been a lot clearer. Another example is when she was trying to explain what a Quick Effect is, she could have just stated that a quick effect is the equivalent of an instant/Flash/Activated Ability, and as such, usable anytime you would have priority. Aside from that, I think it was a good episode.

  • @rolebo1
    @rolebo1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Quick effect monster or spell effects are spell speed 2, normal trap cards are also spell speed 2, so Witch's Strike could activate and chain to a quick effect monster effect if its conditions were met.

    • @firstnamenulllastnamenull1174
      @firstnamenulllastnamenull1174 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm pretty sure you can't chain witch's strike in particular, because it's condition is met *after* the activation of another card is negated. So it usually starts a new chain before resolving

    • @rolebo1
      @rolebo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firstnamenulllastnamenull1174Yes you would be correct

  • @zanpakutoman4225
    @zanpakutoman4225 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Haven't watch the full video,. But, based on how much she seems to know about the card game and that the first card is a ritual monster whose only used as a combo piece this is gonna be a tough set of cards to guess.
    EDIT: Okay she did pretty well, but some of those cards were really tough guesses.

  • @willsoe
    @willsoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like with Witch's Strike, an absolutely huge thing that was overlooked was how it says "negates the activation" rather than "negates the effect". If it was negate the effect it would arguably be a lot stronger as many many more staples (ash) negate effects rather than activations. Also, the spell speed really isn't a problem like others in the comment are saying. If someone uses a Solemn judgment as a counter trap (spell speed 3), witches strike simply starts a new chain as CL1.

  • @VanessaVersus
    @VanessaVersus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Today I learned snow makes you banish seven because of the seven dwarves

  • @__N8
    @__N8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was today I learned that the reason Snow banishes seven for cost is because it's one card for each dwarf.

  • @FenixPlateado
    @FenixPlateado ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I actually never realized that fairy tail snow banished 7 because of the 7 dwarves.

  • @jamesaditya5254
    @jamesaditya5254 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More Staple or Stinker, more Cardmarket personnel!!!

  • @kats7930
    @kats7930 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You both were so charming. I am watching this as a Magic player, and it's so neat to learn what is powerful or not in YuGiOh. Also those cards were A-Dor-able!!! Wow! The closest thing we have to that in magic are "Secret Lair Drops".

  • @Kirbita22
    @Kirbita22 ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE do another episode with this guest thats JUST cards with very cute artwork the world needs it

  • @underblader9675
    @underblader9675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Yu-Gi-Oh goes full on weeb sometimes" Dragonmaids couldn't agree more 😂

  • @akashiya221
    @akashiya221 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dakki should've counted as a staple since there was no context to how good the archetype was, given that in her archetype she is incredible.

    • @byssted
      @byssted ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention that the most powerful Mayakashi card isn’t out yet… Sure, Ishizu Tear will prob still be T1 after Mavens, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mayakashi Trap sees some play in Eldlich builds as a solid rogue pick.

    • @Drakshl
      @Drakshl ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose it's like, would benten be a stinker just BC drytron was bad

    • @TagRoss
      @TagRoss ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with Dakki is that despite how powerful she is she can only be played in mayakashi decks. In-archetype she's absolutely busted, outside her specific archetype she's a level 2 tuner.

    • @mistriousfrog
      @mistriousfrog ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Drakshl honestly, Benten is kind of a bad card for a challenge like this. It is a card which is generically bad, not in any way a staple, but very good in one specific archetype that hasnt had meta relevance for a few years now.

    • @dante3406
      @dante3406 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good in one archetype is not a staple, it's a good card. Staple means it can be widely used. "Dark Magical Circle" is a staple for Dark Magician, but would be very strange to see in any other deck. Anika picked up on that with Benten, saying that being as it targets "Light fairies", it has use in multiple situations. Most archetype specific cards are not staples, barring things like Red eyes fusion and cards of that nature.

  • @aiRCoft
    @aiRCoft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Remove(d) from play" is the same thing as "Banish(ed)".

  • @Gmastersix
    @Gmastersix ปีที่แล้ว

    This is hilarious, I will from now on call Magical Mallet “Moullet de Magical” 😂

  • @r4nd0mguy99
    @r4nd0mguy99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dakki and Benten were definitely unfair.
    Dakki is a staple in Mayakashi because the deck is focused around summoning her over and over to summon synchro monsters with a higher level (from 3 at the lowest up to 11).
    Benten is restricted by being a ritual monster, a summoning mechanic that used to be very flawed.
    Both cards are good in their respective decks. The main difference is that Benten can be used by other ritual-decks and light & fairy just happens to have the most support. Dakki can only be used for its intended purpose unless you tribute it to special summon Nine-tailed Fox or do whatever.
    Anyway…Magical Mallet is only useful for getting your Garnets (cards that are mostly or even only useful when they stay in the deck until you draw the coresponding card) back into the deck.

  • @lucasferrini7063
    @lucasferrini7063 ปีที่แล้ว

    About Fairy Tail - Snow, another major thing is the fact that you can't use face down cards to summon monsters from the extra deck (synchro, xyz, link). So that effect can be used to stop the summon of a key combo piece or boss monster

  • @dagonhydra
    @dagonhydra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always enjoy watching people be introduced to a new card game! It can be pretty hard for full Yu-gi-oh, but the new speed duels box might be a good place to start.

  • @RolandTitan
    @RolandTitan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a couple of ruling explanation mistakes!
    bout to um actually us both into the shadow realm cause im a nerd.
    1) quick effects are spell speed 2. the same speed as normal traps and quick-play spell cards.
    2) remove from play is the old wording of banish, but they are in fact the same thing.

  • @L4ftyOne
    @L4ftyOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the yugioh rating- series!
    Yall got a doozy with this series, believe me
    Always hyped when I get the notification
    greetings from germany

  • @SakuraAvalon
    @SakuraAvalon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Benten is a funny card. Before Drytron came out, the card saw little to no play and sat at 3 its entire life.

  • @Joe.Elston-Gardner
    @Joe.Elston-Gardner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dakki was unfair she didn't know mayakashis sucked, the card in a vacuum sounds really good.

  • @miniiguy2480
    @miniiguy2480 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    witch's strike is an absolute staple which i use in all of my trap decks, and i have resolved the card multiple times resulting in me winning

  • @GyroCannon
    @GyroCannon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I, as a novice of both games, am really loving this series :D

  • @InstantHeart
    @InstantHeart ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should have explained snow as a mini delve and explain how putting stuff face down is powerful because it prevents so many summoning mechanics from the extra deck from even happening

    • @CardmarketYGO
      @CardmarketYGO  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All of them actually! Except fusion because well, Konami says so.
      -Adam

    • @tobiash4802
      @tobiash4802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CardmarketYGO So not all of them

  • @Furiora
    @Furiora ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first time I've heard the level stars called "dragon balls" and now i can't unsee it XD

  • @BassForever
    @BassForever ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see "two ygo players coach 2 magic players to play ygo" and "two magic players coach 2 ygo players to play magic".

  • @emilypearl3510
    @emilypearl3510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cards with strong effects that miss timing like the yang zing or better yet the Gustos. It's such a cheap shot but would be fun to see someone learn what missing timing is

  • @KayossSZ
    @KayossSZ ปีที่แล้ว

    After seeing that Team APS video with the Professor rating Magic cards, this kind of video has become my new obsession.
    Just something really cool about seeing YGO and Magic players interact. xD

  • @littledyu-gi-oh3580
    @littledyu-gi-oh3580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Benten is actually semi limited and everyone expects her to go to unlimited next list

  • @RedesignatedClockwork
    @RedesignatedClockwork ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these kinds of videos and it seemed like a really fun time for both of you! I'd love to see more of this. :D

  • @KingRui_yo
    @KingRui_yo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see you guys introduce a new player to yugioh in a duel!!

  • @bryceduyvewaardt8136
    @bryceduyvewaardt8136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great to see another episode in this series and these two were great with the explanation of both why they think a card is good and why the other was right/wrong. Keep the episodes coming!

  • @santiariza15
    @santiariza15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Benten is not a staple! Its the same argument she used for magical mallot where it only works on certain hyper specific decks. Thats Benten!

    • @darkira2129
      @darkira2129 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mallet is really bad, you can't even win using it in exodia deck, since you draw 1 less card. Well if like they playing with either staple or stinker, it's not staple, but really good with good archtype. Dakki also good but no good archtype can abuse her.

  • @ghetoknight7801
    @ghetoknight7801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cyber angel would be a complete stinker if it didn't synergize well with a select few op decks

  • @zengamer321
    @zengamer321 ปีที่แล้ว

    this series is awesome. i only discovered this channel and the mtg one cuz of these videos.
    blue-eyes chaos max dragon - it's an hexproof indestructible version of an iconic card.
    barrier statue of the stormwinds - floodgate card.
    dimension shifter - tearlaments must die.
    poison draw frog - tricky because of timing.
    underworld goddess of the closed world - crazy boss monster. also i dont think a link monster has been shown yet?

  • @KiraZero17
    @KiraZero17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id love to see more of this, also id love an episode with some cards of the digimon card game

  • @VB2P360
    @VB2P360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More of this and also showing a new player how to play!

  • @Deception975
    @Deception975 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've played both for many years. Pretty much since the start of Magic. I mostly like playing control. Mainly for alternate win states. For me, that always seems to be more easily done with Yu-Gi-Oh. I wanted to bring this up because of the discussion of banishment in the video. While there are cards that let you banish stuff in Magic. There are very few, I can only think of maybe 2 off the top of my head that allow you to bring stuff back. And if I remember correctly, it's specific things. But in YGO, you can build a turn 1 infinite combo deck around banishment. I just really enjoy that, lol.
    I've also built a deck in magic that is turn 1 with no lands. As in no land cards at all. I built it to be a counter to Flash Hulk. I was actually surprised with how smoothly it ran. I just really like building decks, and seeing combos pop off.

  • @peterfehrmann9029
    @peterfehrmann9029 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait, correct me if im wrong, but: witchs strike does have the same spell speed as quick effects. There are 3 spell speeds: spell speed 1 can only be at the start of a chain, pot of greed or breaker, the magical warrior are examples. Spell speed 2 are cards that you can use in any part of a chain, they can react to something or you can use them in your opponents turn (there are exeptions). Traps cards always have spell speed 2 or higher (there are probably exeptions, but i dont remember one) but monsters, continous spells and quick spell can also have spell speed 2. Examples are twin twisters, Borrelload Savage Dragons negation effect and, you guessed it: witchs strike and fairy tail snow. Spell speed 3 are counter traps. They always react to something and u cannot activate other cards in response to them, exept for counter traps.
    On another note: there is no such thing as a difference in "removed from play" and "banished". In the earlier days, the card text said "removed from play", because they were thought of as they were never coming back. As they printed more cards that refered to those cards while they were already removed from play and card texts kept getting longer, they called it "banished".
    Btw I love the format, pls keep it going gals n guys :)

    • @themasterblaze7563
      @themasterblaze7563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Traps indeed are inherently Spell Speed 2 and must be set for a singular turn before being able to be activated.

    • @mistriousfrog
      @mistriousfrog ปีที่แล้ว

      Spell speed is already an informal, player made term, but there is also a spell speed 4 for cards which cannot be responded to at all such as the borrelload monsters.

    • @themasterblaze7563
      @themasterblaze7563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mistriousfrog Spell Speed is a real term and is used in the rule books produced by konami. "Spell Speed 4" specifically is the player made term.

    • @peterfehrmann9029
      @peterfehrmann9029 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its kinda wrong though, since you cant chain something like super poly to a counter trap

    • @themasterblaze7563
      @themasterblaze7563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterfehrmann9029 Spell Speed 4 is just term that refers to cards that cannot be responded to like Super Poly. It more describes what the player can do as opposed to how it actually functions.

  • @Klycix
    @Klycix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    witch's strike is the nuts vs spright when they still had toad. you would have to play something like draco or geist or something. like erupt or protocol boom and u flip this. it plays around elf if u do this all during standby so toad doesnt die twice to add twice.

  • @lifequality
    @lifequality ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You clearly see that Annika isn’t a yugioh player.

    I mean she read all the text on the cards.

  • @Moshinoki
    @Moshinoki ปีที่แล้ว

    We really should get people who play both games to do the explaining... So much time explaining concepts that exist in both games

  • @thesvengallideck
    @thesvengallideck หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy the staple or stinker series from both sides. I am a magic player with no YGO knowledge but I subscribe to the YGO cardnarket just for this.

  • @trost7860
    @trost7860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put in small world for the next I’d love to see someone read it for the first time and have their brain fry on camera lol

  • @randomperson5579
    @randomperson5579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Witch's strike would be absolutely broken if it weren't for it being a trap card, having to set it for a turn before activating it, is the difference between it being too good and not good. if it was a quick play spell card or a hand trap (like ash blossom) it'd be played in every competitive deck, negates are fairly common in competitive level yugioh. you'd be pulling off witch's strike at least once a match (best of 3 duels) on average.

  • @daezondario
    @daezondario ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tbf to her, dakki is definitely a staple in the mayakashi deck itself but just not generically a staple.

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think it would help a lot if someone where there to explain the yugioh effects in a mtgfied way that would save a lot of explanation. tribute is sacrifice, specialen might as well be cast without paying the mana cost, negating equals countering, quick effect is the synonym for flash and banish and exile are identical.

  • @blobisbored
    @blobisbored ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series makes me happy

  • @hanakoisbestgirl4752
    @hanakoisbestgirl4752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pole position, grass looks greener, chicken game, 5 headed link dragon, Ultimate Offering

  • @drewmatos2305
    @drewmatos2305 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like this series. I like watching other people giving their opinions on cards, even with a limited amount of knowledge on the game itself.
    Some cards I wanna suggest for the next video are:
    Forbidden Droplet
    Dimension Shifter (or any hand trap that hasn't been done)
    Crossout Designator
    Called by the Grave
    Triple Tactics Talents
    Waking the Dragons
    Summoning Curse
    Artifact Scythe
    Mirror Force
    Ancient Fairy Dragon

  • @konyoutube9
    @konyoutube9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yessss please get some duels in here! It would be cool to see a Magic player learning all the different mechanics too (Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, Pendulum & Link!)

  • @harryc657
    @harryc657 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:47
    Magic player: ohmygod, she's so cute! 😍
    Yugioh players: *PTSD screaming*

  • @gazblackheart4596
    @gazblackheart4596 ปีที่แล้ว

    Her reactions to the cards are so cute, she makes me smile

  • @Lol-zw8ks
    @Lol-zw8ks ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see the magic players try Yu-Gi-Oh

  • @bossypunch6577
    @bossypunch6577 ปีที่แล้ว

    im pretty sure that in yugioh "removed from play" and "banished" are the same thing. it was just called "removed from play" early on and later changed because we started to be able to access them

  • @RKM_DarKo
    @RKM_DarKo ปีที่แล้ว

    Her calling the level stars dragon balls is my new favorite thing

  • @01jascha
    @01jascha ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Great to see card market doing vids like this. Think there was a missed opportunity though. Anyone not playing Yugioh watching this would never come into contact with some of these cards at all as they are completely irrelevant to modern Yugioh or are multiple formats old.
    Might have been more inspired if they used cards that are newer or more common to see and would probably be cool to see this vid. Decide to buy some ygo boosters and then pull one of the cards spoken about.
    Otherwise loved it

  • @botindeldiablo
    @botindeldiablo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel offended they throw some shade to my beloved Dakki (still I wish she worked for at least ALL Zombies).
    t. Mayakashi Bone tower enjoyer

  • @MrMeltJr
    @MrMeltJr ปีที่แล้ว

    Magic player here, my attempt to play along (I played YGO in the first few years after it came out int he US):
    Benten - I thought it would be a stinker since I remember rituals being hard to use, 1800 ATK is too low to really take advantage of the battle effect, and I underestimated how easy it is to get it out and then trigger the search effect.
    Mallet - I was correct in that it's bad because it's -1 card advantage, I know that's more important in YGO than in magic (although this would also be bad in magic, since we have plenty of ways to get positive card advantage).
    Mayakashi - I was wrong, I figured it'd be good since it's a free monster and the restriction seemed like non-issue but I guess if all the Mayakashi monsters are bad then that's a problem lol.
    Witch's Strike - I was wrong, I thought negating was really common and this would be really good. I remember all my friends flipping out when Magic Jammer, 7 Tools, etc. came out. I guess negation isn't as much of a thing now?
    Snow - I correctly guessed it's good since it can repeatedly shutdown an attacker, but I didn't realize how good banishing is. The magic equivalent (exile) has very little interaction, it's all GY shenanigans for us. Exile is used as a way to prevent further interaction.

  • @joshprice4855
    @joshprice4855 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who plays magic but has an observational relationship with yugioh the first question a Magic player should ask when evaluating a card that so much has the passing trace of an archetype is "Is the archetype good?" Followed by "does this cross into another achetype?"

  • @PhoenixHavok
    @PhoenixHavok ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol hell yeah you two should do both magic and yugioh duels

  • @ZorrilloAlx
    @ZorrilloAlx ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy guts it took a magic player to teach me about one of my favoutire cards, snow banishes 7 because of the dwarves what a crazy world we live in.

  • @nicolasrodriguezbadala1024
    @nicolasrodriguezbadala1024 ปีที่แล้ว

    To make it simple for a magic player to understand, banish is basically the same as exile and quick effect would be the Yu-Gi-Oh equivalent of instant or flash speed

  • @MagicianOfFlame
    @MagicianOfFlame ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see you play Yu-Gi-Oh together, thats gonna be a lot of fun.
    I hope you go for easy decks in modern format tho. Old school is basically a different game at this moment, so new players won't experience the real game.