There are no miracles attributed to Aristotle. Mundane things that could easily have happened and that require nothing supernatural. Accepting the resurrection is a matter of faith. This is a miracle. And that is the difference. One could easily happen without miracles, and the other absolutely requires miracles.
The fact that the apostles were willing to die for the gospel is strong evidence, nay proof, that they sincerely believed the gospel they preached. But it isn't necessarily evidence that the resurrection truly happened, only that they sincerely believed it, just like the sincerity of Muslim jihadists doesn't make their message true. However, what IS compelling to me is that the apostles believed it unto death while having every reason possible not to believe it. In no Jewish mind was a crucified messiah a true messiah. That should have proved Jesus wasn't the messiah. It should have been over. They should have faded away from history in embarrassment that they had believed such a thing. But the exact opposite happened. Right after, they boldly declared Jesus raised from the dead. The only viable explanation in my mind is that something happened, to more than one or all of them, that completely convinced them Jesus had been raised. I'm speaking from the point of view of a historian. History, as a discipline, almost by necessity, cannot confirm a miracle. It can only say what most probably happened. And a miracle, almost by definition is the least likely explanation in any given case. But unlikely things do sometimes happen. I believe the closest historical scrutiny can get to the resurrection is to say that something happened that completely and immediately convinced the apostles that Jesus had been raised. From there, it's a matter of the Holy Spirit convincing hearts that that something was indeed that Jesus truly has been raised.
Nope there is no evidence that the gospels died for the Bible or because they were eyewitnesses it’s simply speculation to assume that. All you know is ten people who followed a criminal were executed.
Seems that the most realistic solution is... Someone wrote a story about a wandering philosopher performing great works, and is eventually executed by the state for his views. In the last scene you find the tomb is empty. Then a wandering philosopher is executed for sedition. Then Peter has a grief based vision of a man he though would become the Messiah. Then Saul has a PTSD related event so powerful that he converted to Christianity, changed his name, and dedicated his life to the cause of the people he once persecuted. Within about 30 years, most followers of Christ had heard this story - today we call it the Gospel of Mark, and it is the source document other gospels were crafted from. Peter, Paul, and John met for 15 days, and after their meeting Paul says they have nothing to add. Galatians... Paul plainly ststes that his personal visions were more important to him than the testimonials of people who traveled with Jesus. No resurrection necessary, and everything plays out the same. With only a single person mistakenly claiming to see Jesus - honestly wrong, and committed to what he thought he saw.
Except that there were more followers than Peter. And they all knew for a fact whether Christ was dead or alive. And they were willing to die for it! The Romans and Jews were desperate for a body to present to stop the spread of Christianity, and could have easily presented the body to do so, had Jesus not risen. The disciples, had they taken the dead body, would have known Jesus didn’t rise. So your explanation isn’t possible. Not to mention the Old Testament prophecies which were fulfilled through Christ! Good attempt though, but no. Anyway you look at it, there is a resurrection shaped hole in the facts.
@@lovegod8582 Peter claimed to see Jesus. The number that claim to have seen Him is very small. Perhaps two. Paul says he only saw him in visions. We have no other people saying rhey saw Jesus. That is where the evidence stops. We lose track of the majority of the apostles and never hear about them again. Unless you use something other than the Bible to get information...
@@lovegod8582 As to Jewish prophecies... The people who own, maintain , and explain what we call the Old Testament disagree with you on Jesus fulfilling prophecies. The Jewish people say Jesus did not fulfill any prophecies. And I trust the owners of the text... they are the authority...
@jackjohnson2171 I think it is reasonable to accept two people who claimed to have seen Jesus after his death. Peter (Cephas): Paul states in 1 Corinthians 15:5 that Jesus appeared to Peter. Luke 24:34 also mentions, “The Lord has risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon.” James (Jesus’ brother): Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians 15:7 that Jesus appeared to James. This is the only direct reference to James seeing the resurrected Jesus.
The thing is I don't think they had the chance to live with the question "Do you deny Christ?". I makes way more sense that they got the death sentence for being associated with Jesus and got no chance to deny christ
If Mathews version is historical, the guards at the tomb were the first to see Jesus’s resurrection. And they were willing to sign off for a few pieces of silver. Yet the disciples were willing to die? Something doesn’t add up lol
Actually in Matthew’s gospel, the guards and the women both at the same time saw the stone roll back and saw the angle but didn’t see Jesus just yet. Shortly after the women were the first ones to see Him. The guards never claimed to see Jesus.
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Almost all of the sources he listed were talking about the persecution of later Christians. This is totally irrelevant, of course, because none of these people could actually attest to the truth of Christianity because they never saw the Risen Jesus. Moreover, willingly suffering for something you believe just means you're sincere in your belief. It doesn't follow that the beliefs are true however.
Yes. It wasn’t “belief”. They were told to deny Christ had risen. They witnessed his resurrection. So they knew it to be true, and were willing to die.
@@simpleplan8914 No one witnessed the resurrection itself, certainly not persecuted Christians decades later. Being willing to die is just evidence that you sincerely believe something. It is not evidence the belief is true.
@@resurrectionnerd but those who personally witnessed the resurrected Christ were willing to die. And they were so convincing that those they influenced decades later were even still willing to die. There was nothing to gain but persecution and torture for proclaiming their faith in Jesus. And yet the persevered.
@@simpleplan8914 Again, even if I grant what you're saying, it doesn't show the belief was true. Moreover, the only account in the New Testament detailing the death of an apostle is James the Son of Zebedee in Acts but it does not say *why* he was killed. That's why most of the persecution and stories about Christians being killed are from _later_ sources detailing how _later_ Christians were persecuted, not the original eyewitnesses.
@@resurrectionnerd Josephus records that James, brother of Jesus was martyred. And there’s the whole, they never produced a body problem. All it would take for them to stop believing in the resurrection was to produce the still super dead body.
Meh Protties... As long as they accept the main doctrines and search for the truth I can swallow it somehow. At Catholic Productions made a wide explanation of who could the "brothers" of Jesus really be.
Protestants believe in resurrection because of the Catholic Church's deposit of faith and the historical writings of the early collected books of the Bible and Early Church Fathers. So I wouldn't even rely on any self proclaimed pastor just because he came to Christ. Saint Paul's story wouldn't be true either if the early Catholics did not have direct lineage to confirm what Paul testified and proclaimed. Get it?
@@juanventer5145 I doubt completely you ever read them and completely read them. Liars only reply with feeling and not intellectually such as your vibe
Protestants believe in the historical resurrection of Christ yes….if you want to be historical it would be the Orthodox Church not the catholic and nobody was calling themselves catholic in the 1st century buddy hate to burst your bubble
You do not have eye witness proof. As I tell my own people in my vids we have not one single signature of someone who witnessed a resurrection or one of Yeshua's miracles. What you have is at best, a written accord, parts of it 30 years after the fact. That alone screams urban legend. And even with that you don't have confirmed authorship. We don't know who wrote the gospels. Period. This idea of witness confirmation as evidence is a major fallacy of all apologists that would be rejected anywhere except with other apologists. All of Strobel's interviewees, who are mostly fundamentalist do the same. The use bad speculation, based on their bias to confirm a worldview that is not provable at all. Cheers, DCF
Whoa, whoa, whoa! James, the half brother of Jesus? That would mean that either Joseph had other children, or Mary did, and we know that is not true. Both were perpetual virgins. Please explain.
My dad was pronoumced dead at the scene of an accident. At the hospitol around 3am a nurse was wheeling him to the morgue down in the basement. She was all alone. My dad sat straight up like a vampire😂 That nurse is probably still taking meds for it. I believe human beings can be pronounced dead but later come to.
Before talking tof eye witness of jesus resurrection. tell us who is or who are the eye witnesses of his crucifixion... In fact, by dint of lying we end up believing our lies....
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Denying Christ's crucifixion is like denying existence of Aristotle. Denying his resurrection is a matter of Faith.
There are no miracles attributed to Aristotle. Mundane things that could easily have happened and that require nothing supernatural.
Accepting the resurrection is a matter of faith. This is a miracle.
And that is the difference. One could easily happen without miracles, and the other absolutely requires miracles.
even the crucifixion is not all 100% everything with christianity is a matter of faith.
@@dannyyo7948 but is the resurrection true?
@@tornay131 think about the concept first. There should be no resurrection if there was a sacrifice. Otherwise is an oxymoron
@@dannyyo7948 or someone changing the definition of what a sacrifice actually is.
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The fact that the apostles were willing to die for the gospel is strong evidence, nay proof, that they sincerely believed the gospel they preached. But it isn't necessarily evidence that the resurrection truly happened, only that they sincerely believed it, just like the sincerity of Muslim jihadists doesn't make their message true. However, what IS compelling to me is that the apostles believed it unto death while having every reason possible not to believe it. In no Jewish mind was a crucified messiah a true messiah. That should have proved Jesus wasn't the messiah. It should have been over. They should have faded away from history in embarrassment that they had believed such a thing. But the exact opposite happened. Right after, they boldly declared Jesus raised from the dead. The only viable explanation in my mind is that something happened, to more than one or all of them, that completely convinced them Jesus had been raised. I'm speaking from the point of view of a historian. History, as a discipline, almost by necessity, cannot confirm a miracle. It can only say what most probably happened. And a miracle, almost by definition is the least likely explanation in any given case. But unlikely things do sometimes happen. I believe the closest historical scrutiny can get to the resurrection is to say that something happened that completely and immediately convinced the apostles that Jesus had been raised. From there, it's a matter of the Holy Spirit convincing hearts that that something was indeed that Jesus truly has been raised.
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Nope there is no evidence that the gospels died for the Bible or because they were eyewitnesses it’s simply speculation to assume that. All you know is ten people who followed a criminal were executed.
That's not evidence.
@@tornay131then what’s your take? Why would the apostles be so willing to go to the grave saying that Jesus was resurrected
@@parkernelson3775 I guess I'm wondering why evidence matters to people who use faith and belief in the supernatural to find truth.
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Seems that the most realistic solution is...
Someone wrote a story about a wandering philosopher performing great works, and is eventually executed by the state for his views. In the last scene you find the tomb is empty.
Then a wandering philosopher is executed for sedition.
Then Peter has a grief based vision of a man he though would become the Messiah.
Then Saul has a PTSD related event so powerful that he converted to Christianity, changed his name, and dedicated his life to the cause of the people he once persecuted.
Within about 30 years, most followers of Christ had heard this story - today we call it the Gospel of Mark, and it is the source document other gospels were crafted from.
Peter, Paul, and John met for 15 days, and after their meeting Paul says they have nothing to add. Galatians...
Paul plainly ststes that his personal visions were more important to him than the testimonials of people who traveled with Jesus.
No resurrection necessary, and everything plays out the same.
With only a single person mistakenly claiming to see Jesus - honestly wrong, and committed to what he thought he saw.
Except that there were more followers than Peter. And they all knew for a fact whether Christ was dead or alive. And they were willing to die for it!
The Romans and Jews were desperate for a body to present to stop the spread of Christianity, and could have easily presented the body to do so, had Jesus not risen. The disciples, had they taken the dead body, would have known Jesus didn’t rise.
So your explanation isn’t possible.
Not to mention the Old Testament prophecies which were fulfilled through Christ!
Good attempt though, but no.
Anyway you look at it, there is a resurrection shaped hole in the facts.
@@lovegod8582
Peter claimed to see Jesus.
The number that claim to have seen Him is very small. Perhaps two.
Paul says he only saw him in visions.
We have no other people saying rhey saw Jesus.
That is where the evidence stops. We lose track of the majority of the apostles and never hear about them again.
Unless you use something other than the Bible to get information...
@@lovegod8582
As to Jewish prophecies...
The people who own, maintain , and explain what we call the Old Testament disagree with you on Jesus fulfilling prophecies.
The Jewish people say Jesus did not fulfill any prophecies.
And I trust the owners of the text... they are the authority...
@@JohnBoen Where does Peter claim to have seen Jesus risen?
@jackjohnson2171
I think it is reasonable to accept two people who claimed to have seen Jesus after his death.
Peter (Cephas): Paul states in 1 Corinthians 15:5 that Jesus appeared to Peter. Luke 24:34 also mentions, “The Lord has risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon.”
James (Jesus’ brother): Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians 15:7 that Jesus appeared to James. This is the only direct reference to James seeing the resurrected Jesus.
The thing is I don't think they had the chance to live with the question "Do you deny Christ?". I makes way more sense that they got the death sentence for being associated with Jesus and got no chance to deny christ
If Mathews version is historical, the guards at the tomb were the first to see Jesus’s resurrection. And they were willing to sign off for a few pieces of silver. Yet the disciples were willing to die? Something doesn’t add up lol
Actually in Matthew’s gospel, the guards and the women both at the same time saw the stone roll back and saw the angle but didn’t see Jesus just yet. Shortly after the women were the first ones to see Him. The guards never claimed to see Jesus.
His analogy is exactly the same as god threatening you with hell if you don’t worship him. Nice
Sin shackles us(because we mostly enjoy it or we can't get away from it) and, God frees us away from it. Are you free from sin?
@@soraplayyt4131 Yes, I am free from sin. Sin is a transgression against divine law, but as there is no divine there cannot be sin
Worshipping God means worshipping the very standard of goodness itself, which is God.
@@Nameless-pt6oj how do you know that? The god of the bible is evil
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Jesus, the other day, in a tortilla, appeared to me. Others said it was Willie Nelson. Am I now an eye-witness?
The more I hear apologists defend resurrection “evidence” the more convinced they have no compelling evidence
Almost all of the sources he listed were talking about the persecution of later Christians. This is totally irrelevant, of course, because none of these people could actually attest to the truth of Christianity because they never saw the Risen Jesus. Moreover, willingly suffering for something you believe just means you're sincere in your belief. It doesn't follow that the beliefs are true however.
Yes. It wasn’t “belief”. They were told to deny Christ had risen. They witnessed his resurrection. So they knew it to be true, and were willing to die.
@@simpleplan8914 No one witnessed the resurrection itself, certainly not persecuted Christians decades later. Being willing to die is just evidence that you sincerely believe something. It is not evidence the belief is true.
@@resurrectionnerd but those who personally witnessed the resurrected Christ were willing to die. And they were so convincing that those they influenced decades later were even still willing to die.
There was nothing to gain but persecution and torture for proclaiming their faith in Jesus. And yet the persevered.
@@simpleplan8914 Again, even if I grant what you're saying, it doesn't show the belief was true. Moreover, the only account in the New Testament detailing the death of an apostle is James the Son of Zebedee in Acts but it does not say *why* he was killed. That's why most of the persecution and stories about Christians being killed are from _later_ sources detailing how _later_ Christians were persecuted, not the original eyewitnesses.
@@resurrectionnerd Josephus records that James, brother of Jesus was martyred. And there’s the whole, they never produced a body problem. All it would take for them to stop believing in the resurrection was to produce the still super dead body.
I believe that the Resurrection did happen.
Jesus' half brother? Did I hear it right? How come?
Meh Protties...
As long as they accept the main doctrines and search for the truth I can swallow it somehow.
At Catholic Productions made a wide explanation of who could the "brothers" of Jesus really be.
Like, 30 seconds in and Mike already said something that is not at all evidently true. How can anyone believe this?
Protestants believe in resurrection because of the Catholic Church's deposit of faith and the historical writings of the early collected books of the Bible and Early Church Fathers. So I wouldn't even rely on any self proclaimed pastor just because he came to Christ. Saint Paul's story wouldn't be true either if the early Catholics did not have direct lineage to confirm what Paul testified and proclaimed. Get it?
Protestantism is a heresy created in the 16th century. Our Church existed since 33AD. ✝️
@@juanventer5145 I doubt completely you ever read them and completely read them. Liars only reply with feeling and not intellectually such as your vibe
Protestants believe in the historical resurrection of Christ yes….if you want to be historical it would be the Orthodox Church not the catholic and nobody was calling themselves catholic in the 1st century buddy hate to burst your bubble
You do not have eye witness proof. As I tell my own people in my vids we have not one single signature of someone who witnessed a resurrection or one of Yeshua's miracles. What you have is at best, a written accord, parts of it 30 years after the fact. That alone screams urban legend. And even with that you don't have confirmed authorship. We don't know who wrote the gospels. Period. This idea of witness confirmation as evidence is a major fallacy of all apologists that would be rejected anywhere except with other apologists. All of Strobel's interviewees, who are mostly fundamentalist do the same. The use bad speculation, based on their bias to confirm a worldview that is not provable at all. Cheers, DCF
who are these two guys? one calls himself a doctor? this does not convince me of any creditable eye witness to the resurrection . I am disappointed .
Whoa, whoa, whoa! James, the half brother of Jesus? That would mean that either Joseph had other children, or Mary did, and we know that is not true. Both were perpetual virgins. Please explain.
The Bible never mentioned that Joseph nor Mary were perpetual virgins.
My dad was pronoumced dead at the scene of an accident. At the hospitol around 3am a nurse was wheeling him to the morgue down in the basement. She was all alone. My dad sat straight up like a vampire😂 That nurse is probably still taking meds for it. I believe human beings can be pronounced dead but later come to.
This is an awful comparison
Christ was dead for 3 days. He was surely dead, but He surely rose!
Before talking tof eye witness of jesus resurrection. tell us who is or who are the eye witnesses of his crucifixion...
In fact, by dint of lying we end up believing our lies....
Where's the proof, still waiting for your proof & was not a half brother, do you do research????
This is Laughable
TH-cam Christian Prince God knows how to show his power thru the people who don’t believe in him….
Non contemporary sources stop it
Jesus was a Pagan Creation
Kindly U own this channel so PLS stop Spreading lies About Islam
In quran Allah Clearly says who ever kills one innocent (not Muslim, Christian, Jew but )person ,he killed the whole mankind!
So If U lied U have to atleast pay consequences punishment in the day of judgement for lying Infront of 8 thousand or more people
There's no evidence that peter or paul even are real
Its time u study about judas and false messiah
None eyewitness only fairytales what they are talking