Please stop doing cycling lactate testing wrong

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  • @shanew634
    @shanew634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice set of data and explanations Dan. Good luck moving forward with your Ironman Wales training.

  • @CoachPursuit
    @CoachPursuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed this one Dan, love the data. Wouldn't mind getting data like this for myself!

  • @jamesfarndon9682
    @jamesfarndon9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved that great video. Pretty please can you do a review video for the aeroad vs the ultimate please. I think you have both. I’m torn between what one to get when the comeback into stock

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks James! Funny you should say that, I have debated that for a while. Think I’ll do them separate though. I have an Endurace but they’re very similar to the ultimate really

    • @jamesfarndon9682
      @jamesfarndon9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TriathlonDan that would be amazing!

  • @adamshaw4652
    @adamshaw4652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top work mate, very interesting

  • @neiltimms9380
    @neiltimms9380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Dan - love all that data!

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Neil, it just all needs to go UP now 😬👍

  • @michaelgraycycling
    @michaelgraycycling 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoyed this. Getting a coach myself which will include lactate testing

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice one! The most important thing is just to ride your bike LOTS 😬💪

  • @andrewhorsfall-turner5484
    @andrewhorsfall-turner5484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What about LT3 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @tomoosterdijk
      @tomoosterdijk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LT3 all day all night

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LT3 isn’t ready for me

  • @ian7180
    @ian7180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Dan. I’m just looking at the courses at Loughborough. Which one was this that you did as they do a few. Was it Two Physiology Bike or Triathlon or the Cycling Physiology one (the cheaper one). [Edit] And now I’ve seen there’s one for fuel utilisation - confused. Cheers.

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :), I did the cycling physiology and body composition but I haven’t put a video up about that yet

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks :), I did the cycling physiology and body composition but I haven’t put a video up about that yet

    • @ian7180
      @ian7180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TriathlonDan thanks Dan. See you at Wales. Well I say that, you’ll probably have finished by the time I climb off my bike. 😂

  • @Krilin84
    @Krilin84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    intersting stuff, thanks for sharing!

  • @larrsoptmen3409
    @larrsoptmen3409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lt2 at 144 HR. When I got a test done my LT2 was 178 HR is lower or higher better? I’m also curious about blood lactate. Your test show 305 watts at 2.10 mM/L. When I was doing research between 1.7 and 1.9 mM/L is considered zone 2 blood lactate range. So In theory you should be able to hold between 280 and 295 watts which is above your LT1. Right?

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HR level doesn't really matter if it's higher or lower, it's all relative to your own zones. I'm really finding the level I can hold vs other people varies wildly, even people with similar LT1 / 2, I do tend to ride 70.3 triathlon bike splits circa 285w and run well off it so it just re-assures me that's well below LT2, when I'm fit anyway!

  • @ashturner4391
    @ashturner4391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff!

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still don’t understand it 😆

  • @ih8signingup2
    @ih8signingup2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video.

  • @alexpurcell238
    @alexpurcell238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been doing it all wrong! LT3 all the way ! #triathlonmockery 😝😝 great vid Dan keep it up 👍👍

  • @stephenbetley9596
    @stephenbetley9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What we're talking about when discussing this is mitochondrial efficiency. The wording that still tends to be used gives the wrong impression of switching between fuel sources, when in reality you have to think of the mitochondria (in skeletal muscles in particular) as being an always on engine and the glycolytic flux as being a turbo which ramps up as the engine is maxed out. What I rarely see mentioned - and is in effect the difference between elite and non-elite athletes - is lactate utilisation, intramuscular shuttling, and mitochondrial lactate utilisation via mct1 transport. This is what keeps blood lactate levels low at higher O2 utilisation in highly trained athletes, the ability of slow twitch muscles to utilise lactate produced by fast twitch muscles without it entering the blood stream. It's trainable within a range of inherited limitations, particularly with Z1/Z2 training. This has been studied more in pro cyclists - Inogo Millan with Pogacar & UAE. It's why pro-cycing training is inheriently dull, and by extension IM training and why many train at too high an intensity. You should be - for the base and build phases - be training predominantly at upper Z1/low-mid Z2. It goes against the HIIT and sweet-spot methodologies which are really quick fixies to get a VO2max boost which then quicky plateaus. I mentioned Millan - this is a useful watch: th-cam.com/video/-6PDBVRkCKc/w-d-xo.html. My background is metabolic biochemistry.

    • @stephenbetley9596
      @stephenbetley9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listening to their recommendations I don't particularly agree. What's needed for a hilly course is the ability to recover between harder intervals, and for this what is needed is a highly efficient engine with the ability to re-utilise intramuscular lactate - and by inference reduce fatigue caused by H+ production. My take, anyway. I'll tell you if it worked when I've done IM UK in July. :)

  • @ckuka
    @ckuka 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the very informative video.
    I think, you’re mixing things a little bit up. Your VO2max is in Competition Club level, while your MAP is in Elite Level.
    Your power zones are actually defined by this test. Until you don’t test, you had to create power zones by arbitrary tests like 20min*0.95 etc. Now, as you’ve three well measured thresholds, you’re able to determine the real power zones. LT1 defines the border between Zone 2 and 3, LT2+-~5% defined your Zone 4. Your MAP is the top end of zone 5. Your FTP should roughly equal your LT2.
    Please correct me if I’m completely wrong.
    Great video anyway!

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Chrisophe, appreciate that 👍👍

  • @samthornborrow8737
    @samthornborrow8737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LT3 EVERY DAMN DAY - WOOF WOOF!

  • @zikaperic2133
    @zikaperic2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry but all the detail testing and I haven't said what is your FTP?

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oops! I think it was 350

  • @ultragobi
    @ultragobi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to do some easy by the numbers , do some hard by the numbers :-)

  • @3WalkingPoles
    @3WalkingPoles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not that geeky to be interested in this (serious) stuff but if you do chicken's LT test I'll be first to watch. 🐔And that's constructive comment. 😂

  • @trisi1048
    @trisi1048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A massive willy wave 🤣, us viewers don't want that image in our heads! 😆. I think you should get a stud in your left ear now.

    • @TriathlonDan
      @TriathlonDan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think it’s big enough to wave 😂