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  • @Ajoi14
    @Ajoi14 ปีที่แล้ว +710

    Support mains: SUPPORT NOT HEALER!
    Illari mains: SUPPORT NOT DPS!

    • @kendrysevilla3922
      @kendrysevilla3922 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Bro she just came out how can someone already main her . And your comment is cringe

    • @cappycubing8609
      @cappycubing8609 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I personally think it's the opposite I feel like a dps when I play ilari

    • @Dragonite-cr5cl
      @Dragonite-cr5cl ปีที่แล้ว

      I main her @@kendrysevilla3922

    • @virgobro2025
      @virgobro2025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dead game

    • @npierson2011
      @npierson2011 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @kendrysevilla3922 Mains a newly released broken character. As soon as she gets nerfed itll be "Whyd they release such a trash support?" And main Moira again. We've all seen it before. 😆

  • @user-cu2fq1bm8z
    @user-cu2fq1bm8z ปีที่แล้ว +1385

    Illari is just a dps with a deployable lifeweaver.

  • @SamReynols
    @SamReynols ปีที่แล้ว +428

    She's 100% getting nerfed. Her ult charges way too fast for how good it is.

    • @masatotai
      @masatotai ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Her healing pylon is beyond broken. Just place it somewhere and go kill the whole team, yet somehow do over 8k heals

    • @Yourenotspecial
      @Yourenotspecial ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ⁠@@masatotaihow is it broken, it’s like saying place torbs turret or syms turrents and let them pick off one by one..if you’re not destroying it or looking for it to get rid of it that’s your problem..the thing has like 150hp 2 shots and it’s done lol

    • @mrballoonhandz8087
      @mrballoonhandz8087 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@Yourenotspecial because it last forever and can be put behind cover, it’s literally a mercy pocket.

    • @myob94
      @myob94 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@Yourenotspecialbro this is just a brain dead take torb and sym turret have to face the enemy. Illari turret is placed behind cover like bap immo and is a mini lifeweaver ult that lasts forever.

    • @idk-ye7ur
      @idk-ye7ur ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​​@@myob94
      Sym turrets are also behind cover bruh. The enemy has to walk into them while Torb turrets hit from afar and are easier to see.

  • @joolian4763
    @joolian4763 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    This is making me realize how good zen or ana would be with a movement ability

    • @andreysoares6203
      @andreysoares6203 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      They might have to amputate her legs, she's so strong lmao

    • @Waseemmmm
      @Waseemmmm ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Zen already has transcendence for repositioning on good angles

    • @Sempapi
      @Sempapi ปีที่แล้ว +75

      ​@@Waseemmmm yeah of course nobody is going to notice a huge sun going to the enemy back line. The Ult would be used for real reposition if you could kill while using it, so you'll have the posibility to do an agressive push but right now the best you can do is waste it to run or heal the team

    • @qstar1237
      @qstar1237 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@andreysoares6203 the problem with doing that is her heal beam. its got a short range so she needs to be in close but she cant reliably do that without her movement ability. she would either have difficulty getting in close or would get killed often for being too close to the fight without having a method to get out. I agree she's super strong tho. a nerf probably is warranted although I think for now her ult is the biggest issue

    • @slandergames9494
      @slandergames9494 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@Waseemmmmif you're using it solely for that you should probably switch off zen 😂

  • @TalkingMonocle
    @TalkingMonocle ปีที่แล้ว +159

    she's def op, but i like this shift of supports from what felt like healbots to me in ow1 to dps-lite characters who have to rely on good aim to get kills and have defensive cooldowns

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think it's kinda stupid but to each their own

    • @TalkingMonocle
      @TalkingMonocle ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@AB-jt4rs i’ll take stupid over boring any day. being able to make plays and be dangerous is such a vast improvement over just having a point and click adventure with my tank’s butt.

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TalkingMonocle making plays and being dangerous is the job of the tank and dps. Illari is literally just a dps who can heal. That's terrible, and pretty much what I hated about paladins now coming into Overwatch

    • @TalkingMonocle
      @TalkingMonocle ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@AB-jt4rsclaiming dps and tanks are the only ones who should be making plays is actually such a bronze 5 take lol. why not just remove the support role all together at that point and just give every character a soldier 76 heal?

    • @aerostrafe1075
      @aerostrafe1075 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@AB-jt4rs Gotta agree that I find your take hella stupid. You actively just want heal bots and seeing as how you hated paladins because supports can do stuff to you then I assume you got his by a jenos ult once then crybaby raged.
      If it wasn't Jenos then I bet it was Ying that made you rage quit. The one support in the game with a kit leaning fully towards healing yet can sitll do some dps.

  • @Agitabodie
    @Agitabodie ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Can't wait to be forced to play mercy and just pocket Illari.

    • @snowleopard9907
      @snowleopard9907 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Omg i do same things pisses people off in qp lmao. But like its qp guysssss

    • @Real_Nutella
      @Real_Nutella ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or be forced to play kiriko mercy every single game

    • @Piemasta9000
      @Piemasta9000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have been in multiple quickplay games that was just this

    • @DooDooBandit
      @DooDooBandit ปีที่แล้ว +7

      just go bap and together you can kill everything in sight

    • @slandergames9494
      @slandergames9494 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're gonna get those toxic ashe /cree /widow players playing illari and saying "just pocket me and we win" 😂

  • @the-name-is-max
    @the-name-is-max ปีที่แล้ว +128

    ml7 is the only Overwatch player I watch now. I love how positive, excited and invested he is. So much pessimism, toxicity, cancel culture everywhere else... All I ever did was playing Overwatch and I never stopped enjoying the game. I joined Overwatch during the content drought and I didn't know it was a drought, I loved the game. And all I see now is content release after content release, new free heroes and game modes.
    I love seeing other players who are enjoying the game while they do or leave to enjoy other projects when they burn out with OW.
    If you enjoy OW2 - keep playing. If you don't - leave and explore other amazing projects. If you think there are games that are better, in your opinion, than OW2 - play them, celebrate them! And tell us about them! And we'll join the fun if it's there and see the difference for ourselves!

    • @diegog5057
      @diegog5057 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You are the kind of person this community needs

    • @raffyarceus99
      @raffyarceus99 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True, but is also important to acknowledge the big problems this game has, now is a disappointment for me, and yeah I played this game for 7 years and I just hoped for something different but the corpa is really greedy, let’s hope the game gets better and more fair to the community but unfortunately I can’t enjoy the game that much these days, I will just hop on to check the new stuff

    • @ctrl_walker5105
      @ctrl_walker5105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Community need player like you 🫶🏻🩷

    • @d00mnoodle62
      @d00mnoodle62 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@raffyarceus99skins are optional, who cares how much they cost. Pvp is free

    • @Saxtalk.
      @Saxtalk. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nowadays content creators farm hate engagement and its kinda sad . Let us respect people enjoying their community.

  • @Annin_Mochineko
    @Annin_Mochineko ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I feel like if you can't single-handedly assasinate the whole enemy backline you can't call yourself a support hero nowadays.

    • @ehjhey7
      @ehjhey7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Facts. I swear whenever I'm in aim trainers it's 70% support mains honing their aim lol

    • @revolution_ow379
      @revolution_ow379 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Gotta make sure every support can survive positional mistakes by giving them mobility and or an easy knockback on any engage tank lol

    • @revolution_ow379
      @revolution_ow379 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also if the mobility doesn’t also heal gotta make sure the support has a heal me now button lol

    • @Annin_Mochineko
      @Annin_Mochineko ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@revolution_ow379 It's fine with some escape abilities, but with that many utilities kiriko and illari bring to the team, they shouldn't have that big burst damage.

    • @qstar1237
      @qstar1237 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@revolution_ow379 to be fair they do need it. they are the number 1 target in every fight. if they didn't have those abilities the supports would literally just be playing respawn simulator the whole match.

  • @Jamail44
    @Jamail44 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Her gun will definitely get an alligator skin. If not, they are blind.

  • @patrickcalip948
    @patrickcalip948 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Your editor is a real one for that Spiderman 2 edit. "The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand." Such a clean edit.😄

  • @kdotbby
    @kdotbby ปีที่แล้ว +22

    She is the most fun i've had playing a hero in a very VERY long time.... They were smart for releasing her with this very big season also is a good way to get people who predominately like dps to maybe switch to Illari and become support players which was an aim of theirs for a while. There will always be nerfs but im glad they learnt from not repeating an underwhelming release like Lifeweaver.

    • @rfrakctured
      @rfrakctured ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right. She's a fun hero, but it's the most egregious example of power creep Blizzard has ever done. They keep adding too many things to a single character's kit, it's like emongg's randomizer modes. They gave Illari Sojourn's rail gun, disruptor shot, then combined her slide jump with Lucio's boop. And then she also gets a Sym turret that heals better than Zen's harmony orb- ANNNND on top of that her ultimate gives her Mercy's Valkyrie flight. WTF blizzard? Sure all that stuff is incredibly fun to play with, but what other character on ANY role, even comes CLOSE enough to compare in power??

  • @Shupra94
    @Shupra94 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I would do awful things to gain ML7's aiming ability.

    • @masatotai
      @masatotai ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or you could just play more and train...no awful things needed.

    • @Shupra94
      @Shupra94 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@masatotai With 2 jobs and 2 kids, I play casually when I have some free time. not everybody can play more and train lol. It was a joke friend.

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@masatotaiML7s career is literally overwatch. Few people have the luxury of being able to play THAT much

    • @jesse5253
      @jesse5253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Shupra94 once u actually play her, u might realize how easy it is to hit shots with her, I think the size of her shots actually helps too, and the patience required makes it easier to hit head shots too

    • @masatotai
      @masatotai ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shupra94 Bruh. 2 jobs and a kid + single dad. I get it was a joke, as was mine. I give my kid a dead controller and the poor lad thinks he's playing with me.

  • @daviddiaz8339
    @daviddiaz8339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:22 I lost it here lmao

    • @TheOnlyWally
      @TheOnlyWally ปีที่แล้ว

      FR I spat out my drink lmao

  • @AlexFrank02
    @AlexFrank02 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    People are being wayyy too extreme about nerf ideas she could use a few small nerfs but every ability she has is easily counterable and her dmg isn’t even that much look at zen, bap, Kiriko, shit even Moira in a more closed in space. It’s okay for a support to have dps potential look at LW he’s a healbot and that’s why not many people like him what do you expect blizzard to do keep making healbots that people don’t enjoy? She is powerful sure but I’ve never been that frustrated going against her and trust me the same can’t be said about Kiriko for me lol I like Kiriko but her abilities are much harder to counter and she has even more dps y’all gotta calm down

  • @radchapolinxd8746
    @radchapolinxd8746 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Illari is the first support witch's ults is only ment to kill

    • @Solar5187
      @Solar5187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bap ult?

    • @radchapolinxd8746
      @radchapolinxd8746 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Solar5187 bap ult also double his healing,Illari's ult just kill

    • @KiwamiJoryu
      @KiwamiJoryu ปีที่แล้ว

      Which's*
      Meant*

  • @ImpurityxYT
    @ImpurityxYT ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Bet they're gonna nerf her to the ground in the middle of the season or next season lol but i love her lol

    • @konsolcugenc4303
      @konsolcugenc4303 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      They gotta shift her power.Decrease her damage and lower her healing beam but give it more healing capacity etc.

    • @WooYewMing
      @WooYewMing ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@konsolcugenc4303i think a realistic one is that theyre gonna reduce the projectile size bc people are hitting a lot of headshots with her

    • @aToastedPickle
      @aToastedPickle ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly a small dps and a hps nerf to turret and she would be pretty balanced I feel

    • @LeCatization
      @LeCatization ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I'm ready to eat my words if the meta develops around Illari, but honestly, I don't think she's OP enough to deserve a nerf.
      At most they're going to nerf her ult cost. But in competitive, people are going to get better at blocking/ avoiding the ult.

    • @Ogwiseman_
      @Ogwiseman_ ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@LeCatization right. The same way rammatras ULT ran through the game initially. People will get better at playing around it. This community just wants to complain. Be thankful such an exciting character is coming into the game. Let support have a win for a change, lol

  • @leafwind22
    @leafwind22 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a support main I love when supports have great dps potential. I feel like that’s why lifeweaver is still struggling

    • @chadbear8759
      @chadbear8759 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your a damage main that likes to play support because it heals. Fixed that for you

    • @leafwind22
      @leafwind22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chadbear8759 interesting I’ll keep that in mind

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Support is OP because a lot of them are just DPS with better abilities.

    • @munchlax6577
      @munchlax6577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lifeweaver’s damage is fine, it just looks bad compared to Mrs two-shot illari

    • @user-xe8em4ux1p
      @user-xe8em4ux1p ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@munchlax6577 how is it fine when his damage is the lowest among all supports except mercy, whose secondary fire is dmg boost, and she CAN do more damage than him if she decides to use her pistol more--plus the time to change from volley to blossom is incredibly slow. I think the rest of the kit's fine, they just gotta rework his weapon, it's so bad to the point that you basically can't win ANY 1v1s

  • @akaikeshi1906
    @akaikeshi1906 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I genuinely want someone to explain to me why Illari is amazing but so many other supports were hated on release.
    Brig was hated for dealing big damage, although she has high risk as she had to be on your face to kill you, and she didnt have good enough heals to sustain her and disengage. She was nerfed until she was barely playable.
    Moira was hated too for her big damage, just as brigite, and had her fade and self heals. Also giga nerfed.
    Mercy, not on release, but throughout the last years, has been hated for her mobility (which is dependent on her teammates) and the damage the dps she boosts does, while having no way to defend herself, having to be near the dps and, most recently, way less mobility.
    Illari has big damage from a safe distance, mobility to disengage and pretty much passive heals, she just has to place a turret and it heals while she is on and about doing her thing. Her ult is also a dps ult.
    Illari can 1v1 any dps and survive just by spawning her turret if she doesn't 2 click you in the first 3 seconds. For real, ive seen her survive 3v1 and being able to live with more than half her life, taking down at least one dps.
    Please, explain to me why she's ok, but the other supports arent.
    I am a support main and she is amazong to climb and get kills, but i also recognize its hypocritical of me to praise her, knowing what a contradiction she is to the support role.
    Maybe people are just taking advantage of the fact that shes an easy support for the majority of the player base, who are dps, but that doesnt make her "balanced" or a good "support".
    Can i get some opinions?

    • @aprilblues3202
      @aprilblues3202 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brig was hated because of the cc. Having a mini tank stun and combo you every 10 seconds was aggravating.
      Moira hard locked onto targets with a fade and orb making killing a squishy ridiculously easy and quick. Their skill floor was on the ground.
      Kiriko and Illari doing so much is accepted with the fact that their skill floor is a little higher with some semblance of aiming and intention. Though her ult is utter bs.
      I don’t know how to feel about Mercy’s nerf. It took good skill to do her tech in ow1, but with the rework in ow2 to make super jumps and slingshots accessible to everyone I do think the nerf was fair. However, if mobility was the concern then Lucio should have also suffered a minor nerf.

    • @akaikeshi1906
      @akaikeshi1906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @aprilblues3202 I know Brig's combo was hell, but they kept on nerfing her after they took it away.
      While kiriko and illari rely more on mechanical skill, brig and moira require you to have better game sense as they have to take risks to get their kills. Brig's shield is like a sheet of paper
      What you're saying is that the community is willing to accept it more when it comes to mechanical skill than game sense?

    • @dequasont1063
      @dequasont1063 ปีที่แล้ว

      She isn’t that OP, simple as that. No where near launch brig by the way. Lifeweaver’s launch was super underwhelming as he was terrible, but illari is fun and very strong. She will also get nerfs that she needs

    • @aprilblues3202
      @aprilblues3202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akaikeshi1906 absolutely. Brig and moira are low risk high reward. Game sense is secondary to the majority of players despite its importance. More difficult mechanics makes it feel more earned when they get a kill, rather than just holding down primary fire in the general direction. nerfs don’t really matter since I was talking about the response to new heroes pre-nerf. Illari is good, but she isn’t mindlessly strong.

  • @officialhawke
    @officialhawke ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i really hope they don't nerf her into the ground. people are hating too much imo. if she were a dps people would be so excited about her, but god forbid a support have any meaningful impact on the game

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Support is literally the most powerful role. Kiri, Ana and Bap were insanely strong with nuts carry potential. Now Illari is out and she's OP as well. Anyone who thinks support is weak is either a delusional support main or stupid.

    • @Samuraith2077
      @Samuraith2077 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@big_smokes_house6085 I notice you comment on people who suggest that supports have a meaningful spot in the dps limelight saying their all broken over and over. Especially when it's only a select few that are strong. Should really check your information.

    • @little_error295
      @little_error295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Samuraith2077select few bap, kiriko, Illari, ana, zen that’s literally more than half the support class already

    • @wait2098
      @wait2098 ปีที่แล้ว

      if sigma was in the support role you'd have a problem too! thats how absurd illari DPS is! you have to respect her more than a cassidy because she two shots and has way more sustain and a better movement ability and a way way better offensive ult...wait this is a support?

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samuraith2077 The entire support roster is extremely strong except LW.
      Kiriko, Ana, Baptiste, Zen, Illari, Moira are all 1v1 monsters or characters who put out ridiculous damage.
      There's nothing incorrect about saying that support is overtuned as a role.

  • @indigo3747
    @indigo3747 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:00 feels like it's right out of a gameplay trailer.

  • @matrix5396
    @matrix5396 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She applies so much pressure , along with crazy healing . Every game its an ez 8-10k without trying (aware its not an insane amount) . But the 2 tap is such a threat . Curious to see what they will do with her in the future

    • @aryansoja3
      @aryansoja3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually think she is pretty balanced. At this point in time players simply don’t know how to play against her, similar to Ramattra’s release. Her healing turret do have a lot hps and so does her beam, but the beam has limited range and the heal turret can be easily destroyed. So if she does get nerfed it will be a minuscule one. Headshot damage needs to go down to 90 though.

    • @matrix5396
      @matrix5396 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SamAce1054 agreed 👍 the 2 taps is my only issue with her .

    • @coal159
      @coal159 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aryansoja3 Whats even the point of it then, She needs to hit a full charge head and a 70% charged head to even kill and most people will get out of her sightline before that.

    • @Dark_Shadow_Support
      @Dark_Shadow_Support ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aryansoja3nooooo a headshot supposed to feel like a headshot that’s max damage lol just as any hero does massive damage to the head Ana, widow, McCree, Ashe, zen, just to name a few and Kiriko which does her most massive damage at head point

    • @adriangonzalez2945
      @adriangonzalez2945 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@aryansoja3the only thing that actually could need a nerf its her ult, a bigger ult cost would be better, due to how hard can change the direction of a battle, almost like the sombra ult

  • @user-br3cn1fy1y
    @user-br3cn1fy1y ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a sombra main seeing these plays that can be easily cancelled makes me happy

  • @karmichel
    @karmichel ปีที่แล้ว +18

    She is fun to use, but really difficult... You have to have a good aim to do something, her rate of fire is slow, her ult can be countered and her healing pilon, which is her primary source of heal is easily destroyed, you have to be extra aware of the map...

    • @Midasty
      @Midasty ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Considering all that, she's not OP

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@MidastyShe's very OP. Her ult is too strong for how fast it charges and her turret is way overtuned. Add on top of that a good movement ability and an extremely good weapon, she's bery broken.

    • @brucefly7347
      @brucefly7347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh she’s literally a dps with healing abilities, not bad mobility, and useful ult. Just tell me which characte’s ult can’t be countered? And saying you need good aim to use her is hilarious since most of the dps require good aiming skills.

    • @karmichel
      @karmichel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brucefly7347 you can't shoot quickly with her, by the time you hit one, the enemy can damage you more, her play style is similar to Kiriko, but her rate of fire is slower then her, if you press her she cant do much, DVa can kill her easy, for example

    • @jesse5253
      @jesse5253 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it's super easy to aim with her 💀 if u don't think so it's safe to say your aim is just dooky

  • @denny8422
    @denny8422 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think a lot of the hype around Illari being insane isn't just that she's genuinely insane but bc of the whiplash from LW's release. She's so cool though fr

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She is arguably the best support in the game, she's ridiculously strong.

    • @docsupreme7177
      @docsupreme7177 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@big_smokes_house6085nah i think ana and kiri are easily still the best

    • @SantiagoPerez-yv9wu
      @SantiagoPerez-yv9wu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its a hitscan kiriko that can suzu 24/7 and leave a lifeweaver pocket behind cover, tf are you talking about?

    • @coal159
      @coal159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SantiagoPerez-yv9wu Where did the Suzu come from.

    • @SantiagoPerez-yv9wu
      @SantiagoPerez-yv9wu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coal159 hear healing is basically a second long transendence, aka suzu.

  • @glencocohh
    @glencocohh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Spiderman 2 reference took me out 😂 keep up the great content dude :)

  • @Crunchynoodly
    @Crunchynoodly ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i am so much more hyped to see this character be played than the last support they dropped

  • @benbrewer6000
    @benbrewer6000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I honestly feel like she works AMAZINGLY well with zarya tbh, she’s kinda like her but a GOOD GRAV SURGE WITH AN ILLARI ULT IS INSTA DEATH

    • @xylerpunk7481
      @xylerpunk7481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Until Kiriko comes along with her broken ass suzu lol

    • @benbrewer6000
      @benbrewer6000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xylerpunk7481 we don’t talk about kiriko in these scenarios lol, I’m a kiriko main and I know full well how awful her suzu can ruin things 💀

  • @liloessa537
    @liloessa537 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Illari is a support lifeweaver is a healer

    • @madtonesbr
      @madtonesbr ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup lol the most viable way to play him is to healbot. Maybe fire your thorns 1-2 times in a round for 134 damage total. I can't believe people enjoy playing like that

    • @ToolboxMotley
      @ToolboxMotley ปีที่แล้ว

      Lifeweaver is a mistake*

  • @m1bl4n
    @m1bl4n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:23 this caught me off guard lol

  • @Soft_Ghost
    @Soft_Ghost ปีที่แล้ว +58

    More support characters should be like this. Of course you can heal and enable your team, but you should have the ability to carry when your team can not.

    • @chadbear8759
      @chadbear8759 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Then stop calling it support, that’s now a carry kid.

    • @timkuhn5770
      @timkuhn5770 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      make them almost as strong as dps in 1v1 sure buddy

    • @proplugwalker
      @proplugwalker ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This is the exact mentality that is killing the game

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More support characters should be completely broken and carry the entire game on their back? We already have Ana, Kiri and Illari, no thanks. Support is already beyond broken no need to make it stronger.

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@timkuhn5770Half of them are already stronger than DPS in 1v1s. Support is OP as hell.

  • @BigPro1123
    @BigPro1123 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Best character in the whole game

  • @JhonnyStone100
    @JhonnyStone100 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Illari’s death voice lines 😫

  • @PeyjTurner
    @PeyjTurner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:37 : "How in god's name are we against ml7?"

  • @chawza8402
    @chawza8402 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    imagine having her and moira in the same team. I immediately switch to Hog lmao

    • @hamadsalem1881
      @hamadsalem1881 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same its happened to me yesterday lol

    • @ListenToYourHearto
      @ListenToYourHearto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Today I met Moira and Illari. Try to kill me (mercy), I'm tired of healing and running

    • @xylerpunk7481
      @xylerpunk7481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny how the two supports with the best healing in the game are so dps focused xD

  • @VividLus
    @VividLus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blizzard dev: let's make Lifeweaver so that he can't do shit and have basically no heal and damage, just a pretty boy who just heal and get to high ground
    also Blizzard dev: let's introduce Illari who has dash, portable heal turret, can fly and bomb the whole enemies
    I used to wish LW has a rework where he has a flower that can shoot heal like how Ilary turret work, guess it is not possible anymore XD

  • @Oddjawsh
    @Oddjawsh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “A Charlie 9er” had me dead lmaooo

  • @wisepi8806
    @wisepi8806 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To anyone saying Illati ult is not a support ult, well your team dosen't need healing if the enemy team is dead.

  • @ksilebo
    @ksilebo ปีที่แล้ว

    14:36 thats what lifeweaver does. Sit and watch until defeat

  • @BadMythical
    @BadMythical ปีที่แล้ว

    hanzo at 2:42 is like : hey how u doing there

  • @xeltarasrage2367
    @xeltarasrage2367 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:30 mins in the video ML7 first time used the healbeam XD nice support ^^

  • @nasserabdulla6609
    @nasserabdulla6609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    her healing pylon should heal half what it does now because its unfair to be able to just forget about healing your team and go dps mode till it breaks

  • @vedhil
    @vedhil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she’s def overtuned for high level play. but as a support player i will take overtuned over underwhelming a la lifeweaver’s launch.
    she’s absolutely built as though she’d be vulnerable to dive, but her turret’s pulse rate negates any engage on her when it’s active. wonder what the team will decide to adjust in the next patch to balance it out.

  • @platina1502
    @platina1502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She really isnt that strong her raw heals and dps potential is neat but she has no other value no buffing no nerfing no zoning nothing thats not really opressive

  • @Tiger_OW
    @Tiger_OW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎵 Music at beginning is:
    Tokyo Machine - AUTOMATIC (feat. DYSON)

  • @ryan_raus
    @ryan_raus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She’s gonna pair with Bap. DPS machine

  • @patrikbelanyi2263
    @patrikbelanyi2263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well she is probably the best support as many of you mentioned.
    On the other hand minuses are:
    you can heal only on close range , if they destroy that dron it is much more harder.
    Heal recharges in few Sec and while healing u still need to track body.
    Ult is not so OP bc u still need to have good aim to kill someone. You can counter her with so many legends.
    HEr long range weapon: Kill someone with 2-3 shots
    Well balanced character and the best part is that you really need to have skill and brain.
    My first 10games nobody shooted her pylon even u can destroy it in 2-3shots :D

  • @inflame1306
    @inflame1306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk if i want a good dps support i will pick bap honesty...
    Just bc the way he applies pressure. Instead of going for picks (and if you don’t make it you just waste your time and don’t heal your team). When with bap you will eventually land your shots but also heal with ez

  • @Waffl3B1T
    @Waffl3B1T ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a Saturday, I woke up, made breakfast, and now to enjoy mL7 with a cup of coffee. Which will not be spit out.
    Who am I kidding there’ll be some funny moment and I’ll have to clean my walls again lol
    Edit: coffee on wall when you jumped into the dragons and all I could think is Hanzo April fools day line “nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom”

  • @LeSpank1012
    @LeSpank1012 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:43, "how in gids name are we against ml7"

  • @edwardrolle7723
    @edwardrolle7723 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She does more damage than zen with easier to hit shots? Huh

    • @xeltarasrage2367
      @xeltarasrage2367 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah but zen has a much higher attackspeed

    • @foojub6907
      @foojub6907 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xeltarasrage2367he also has zero fucking mobility, a debatably worse ult, and way less healing… so uh

    • @Ogwiseman_
      @Ogwiseman_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@foojub6907 his ult is not worse it's just a defensive ult. Something that can protect you from the most powerful moves in the game is a great ultimate. They just had to nerf discord because of how much zen was wrecking and providing great utility to his team lol. You don't need heals when the team is dead 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @shockd1220
      @shockd1220 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nobody plays zen for his dmg they play him for discord. thats like saying mercy rez is the reason people play mercy, no, its dmg boost.

    • @foojub6907
      @foojub6907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ogwiseman_ no

  • @Euming1992
    @Euming1992 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    she's soooooooooooo much fun to play! best support release

  • @ngs2683
    @ngs2683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine using her ult, marking a group of people then your Junkrat throws a mine at them.

  • @Cameron-ki1qx
    @Cameron-ki1qx ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really hope Illari continues the trend of Blizzard shifting Supports to heroes that can hold their own against the rest of the roster. She has a strong primary fire and ult but the rest of her kit is still very much Support. Being a sitting duck against enemy Tracers shouldn't be the default just for the sake of it.

    • @Samuraith2077
      @Samuraith2077 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. It's tiresome when your playing support and when your teammates make careless decisions or don't teamfire and so on and your stranded and alone, and can't retreat or have a chance to take maybe one player down if your lucky. I agree making supports have more than one use is a good thing going forward. I like the concept of characters being versatile to a extent on their abilities.

  • @ramidp
    @ramidp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The healing turret is going to be nerfed for sure .. As long as you position that turret correctly is like you can focus on dpsing .. Guess dmg is going down as well ..

  • @sirbear4962
    @sirbear4962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hear me out, make her ult target allies, and when an enemy blows it up it heals them… should adjust this damage we’re seeing quite a bit

  • @NestPavel
    @NestPavel ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mr. Streamer for all the videos and streams. I played OW1 just a little and started playing much more with realease of OW2. I genuinely enjoy the game and I'm glad there is a content creator who enjoys it too and stays positive. Of course OW2 is not a perfect game and I understand that Blizz made some unpopular and rather greedy decisions about the game. But the pure amount of hate and toxicity surrounding the game is something, I still can't wrap my head around. So wish you all the best.
    P.S. tried to play Illari - can't hit anyone with primary omegalul

  • @chambino1240
    @chambino1240 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    illari is genuinely the most fun i’ve had in ow in awhile

  • @Tichondrius-
    @Tichondrius- ปีที่แล้ว

    She is too opressive.
    Her Primary Fire hitbox is the same as Sojourn's Railgun at 100% charge. Basically walking perma mini Soj's ult without piercing. Falloff starts at 30 meters, up to 50, dealing 75-22.5 dmg, x1.5 crit multiplier. With that huge of a hitbox it's an easy two-tap kills with most of the roster.
    Pylon heals 50 hp/s, 40 hp every 0.8 sec, it has 150 (75+75) hp and is permanent. It's 3 Ana's darts, 4 Zen's orbs, 3 Cass'es shots. You got my point, you can't really kill her in a duel if you can't one-shot.
    Mobility skill that also works as disengager.
    Alternative fire is 120 hp/s heal, can heal up to 360 hp in 3 seconds. Recharge is also 3 seconds if not fully depleted. With a pylon it's 170 hp/s.
    Quite cheap ultimate that grants fly, fires barrier piercing Rasen Shuriken that deals 50 dmg in a huge 7m radius, applying slow for 40% for around 6 seconds, and if you take 90 dmg you explode in AoE for 120 dmg. Thank God it can be cleansed, reflected or eaten by matrix and so alike.
    Personally, I wouldn't be so mad about her if not for a Primary Fire hitbox. I would rather nerf it or take away headshots completaly. It's just too easy to kill with her, while also being hard to kill, you can clearly see this in the video. Maybe some ultimate tweaks, idk. For now she is too powerful.

  • @localmilfchaser6938
    @localmilfchaser6938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait for her nerf 🙃

  • @kingblackthorn4195
    @kingblackthorn4195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really only think her ult is a problem. It charges too fast. Everything else feels passable or fine.

  • @anettelma123
    @anettelma123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    devs were afraid to buff Lifeweaver too much lest they make him too strong, then they gave us Illari... that's ridiculous

  • @Hatem_all
    @Hatem_all ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how in OW2 supps are simply dps with self sustain and actual dps forced to play hypermobile chars to get some health pack when your healer too busy to heal you cos doing dmg. And also they have sustain in addition as passive. First, we have Kiri with everything: both type of mobility, insane dmg, good heal, immortality, cleance and pretty skinny model and now we get THIS. So what the point to try play dps and depend on your healers, when you can go play support and be actually better in dps and depend on yourself only.
    After they make OW2 game become unfun and they keep moving in the wrong direction.

  • @Pmass89
    @Pmass89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro is killing me by throwing the "G" in there😂😑

  • @miasbookblog96
    @miasbookblog96 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been immensely enjoying playing her, she slowly becoming my main. I am currently collecting those overwatch points from the bp to get her Daybreak skin because I absolutely love it

  • @hirotrum6810
    @hirotrum6810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    from the minds that brought you moira comes.... moira that can *miss*

  • @madsondurton8754
    @madsondurton8754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unleashing the power of the sun! or plant a tree.

  • @lightdemon2169
    @lightdemon2169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they really took a DPS character, have her a healing pod then slapped a Support sticker on her.

  • @Zinic_
    @Zinic_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The devs have specifically said that they would release her OP because the lifeweaver was underwhelming. This is actually a problem when Illari is behind a paywall.

  • @turbofox4177
    @turbofox4177 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its good the supports are getting some more active heroes you can actually fight with, only healing people gets boring so this character is cool but deffo needs some tweaks.

  • @sylvereleipertz955
    @sylvereleipertz955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OWL can't stop now. I want to see this support in competitive

  • @gravellergear4703
    @gravellergear4703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She's way too OP man. They do this everytime though, make the new hero OP, get everyone to buy her. Then nerf her to the ends of time.

  • @BendMax
    @BendMax ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She does feel a bit op while playing as her and against her. But nevertheless, Blizzard did a really good job, this hero is so much fun to play and she brings ungodly amounts of burst healing as her gimmick. And she can take care of pharahmercy if she needs to. Her kit is loaded

  • @jinxxybg2578
    @jinxxybg2578 ปีที่แล้ว

    When they nerf her, they're definitely going for that pylon. It heals too fast. They'll probably hit it's fire rate or range or make it so that when you dies it gets destroyed because if y'all didn't know, if your pylon is in a good spot and you die it will still stay up and heal your team.

  • @Uniacoty
    @Uniacoty ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She really is fun to play. She will definitely become one of my mains when she is released for comp

  • @adrieljimenez4119
    @adrieljimenez4119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did she just say indeed hiroshima while she throwing her ult 1:42 -1:45

  • @ryantalbot1465
    @ryantalbot1465 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they want to balance her make her shot do 70 DMG and still keep the headshot DMG the same. Nerf the pylon to output the healing every 1sec this would be a minor nerf but wouldn't completely ruin the pylon. Lastly nerf the ult a little by either lowering the DMG from the initial aoe explosion or the detonation afterwards. Either way it's a well put together character just needs a bit of balancing.

  • @Im_Pok
    @Im_Pok ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. ML7's Editior Can I ask how you create a animated Olaf icon when someone donate or gifted a sub that appear on screen? What program or application did you use. Thank you

  • @blee1997
    @blee1997 ปีที่แล้ว

    my first two potgs with illari is in the 2 new flashpoint maps LMFAO

  • @enterthekyuubi
    @enterthekyuubi ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just glad we have another support that can handle annoying Pharmercy duos.

  • @armoredsquirrel946
    @armoredsquirrel946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so, the new heroe thats attached to a premium currency battlepass is top tier? who would know that?! in call of the watch 2, uh :O

  • @k0naz
    @k0naz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel as though they need to fix how dark your screen gets whenever ur sunstruck 💀

    • @mL7support
      @mL7support  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the effect seems a bit much I agree, maybe if they tone it down just a bit it will look and feel better

  • @sarko5989
    @sarko5989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Illari: dps while your pylon does your job for you

  • @freya3789
    @freya3789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Her bullets have a hitscan functionality with a projectile sized bullet. It'd be like making Hanzo or Mei a hitscan, or making Widow's bullets fatter than the continent of Africa. She needs to be nerfed, yesterday.

  • @stchnard
    @stchnard ปีที่แล้ว

    5:22 wait, this does damage too? Omg, the "shupport not healer" have changed to "dps not support"

  • @ujimass1799
    @ujimass1799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad times for support mains.. i feel upset that first we got a useless heal bot and now we have a hitscan dps with healing abilities

    • @Alienist391
      @Alienist391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is she bad ?

    • @ujimass1799
      @ujimass1799 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alienist391 she's not, she plays like a dps and doesn't have the feel of a support

    • @Runib
      @Runib ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ujimass1799she have support ability and carry potential plus cc with the ult (slow) like she is a support not a heal bot like weaver

  • @ashes133
    @ashes133 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It was nice of them to make a DPS character that can heal the team too.

  • @Hencid
    @Hencid ปีที่แล้ว

    illiari is the future of support in overwatch, this isn't a moba, is a shooter and everyone should be contributing to the dmg, a dps shouldn't win easy against a support it should always be up to skill.
    any support from now on should be either be dps oriented like illari, zen or very defensive like like bap or brig.
    i hear many dps players cry baby about a support finally having a potg worthy ultimate, when they are used to get potg with junkrat and repear with literally no skill needed, is time for supports to have fun aswell so the queue time will be balanced and everyone will be able to play what they truly want to play.
    dps role doesn't mean they are th eonly ones doing dmg it means that they are focused on that while support and tank have other responsabilities too, i do stop for secondary fire on my illari when needed quite often but in the neutral game you can be sure i am popping heads
    imo they should rework all support to become more similar to illiari.

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm theorizing...what if you place her healing pylon super late? Thoughts on this? (I feel like it gets destroyed quickly and easily)

  • @snowleopard9907
    @snowleopard9907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly though for bronze support players she going deffinality help people out that are hard stuck with that ultimate that can actually be used offensively

  • @abeyaeger9159
    @abeyaeger9159 ปีที่แล้ว

    valorant Raze voiceline when Illari hits Ultimate xD "here comes the party"

  • @sebastianrojo8952
    @sebastianrojo8952 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive ben playing her, had a couple matches of flashpoint where I was the only support, not only did I kept everyone alive and well, I also had more heals than the 3 OTHER supports combined, and get this, I wasnt healing, i was mostly all from the turret, I also had the second most elims, 2 short from the tank, and prety good damage, almost as dps, I was super aggressive, only healing if they crossed infron of me basically, but moving your turret from place to place to keep up with the fight, and for enemies no to target it easily was so impactful, felt almost like sombra, getting more value of moving the trret/trans around in the batle that somewhere far and safe, and if someone is to low, just beam and the are not anymore. pretty fun hero if you can land shots, I do need practice with her ult tho.

  • @KimJade430
    @KimJade430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Illari is basically the girl version of Baptise but a little bit better.
    I love how OW2 released a defensive healer (Lifeweaver) then released a offensive healer (Illari). I like the balance both LW & Illari brings into the meta.

  • @hko2518
    @hko2518 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wanted to see Illari on ranked maps. Ty ML!!!

  • @bgw32
    @bgw32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that left click is going to get nerfed

  • @rj-nq4rp
    @rj-nq4rp ปีที่แล้ว

    2:45 i swear i heard a raze ult right after illari ult im so confused

  • @luckyplayer5525
    @luckyplayer5525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Already got ace with her on the flashpoint map)

  • @rorrim3147
    @rorrim3147 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s a fun character but I can’t aim 😅

  • @DAHxOMY
    @DAHxOMY ปีที่แล้ว +8

    She’s going to be nerfed so much cause she’s so powerful

  • @scortch7690
    @scortch7690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theres no room for counter play with this character 🫤

  • @arthurbarboza6258
    @arthurbarboza6258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another support for the dps mains