RSD Middlechild - EXTREMELY versatile.
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It’s late in the series, but it would be cool to see the Marin San Quentin compared too!
I was thinking that as well but he's only doing 29 in wheels this season
Love the Quentin but this test is 29er only
I've been saying this on almost every one of these videos
@@64Spokes Dang, I didn’t realize till now that the San quin only came in 27.5. He should do a 27.5 to mullet conversion series in the future with it or just a 27.5 only series
Maybe he could do the el Roy
Loving this series Evan! A few comments
- the horizon balancing gave a really cool POV vibe, but some settings would definitely need some tweaking for video use
- I think it would only be fair for the bikes if you tested the top two at the end of the series back to back
- it would be really cool if you did like a "fork quest" after this series using the winning bike, like keep everything else constant and test all of the forks (rockshox, fox 36, marzocchi z1, cane creek, dvo, etc.) to try and find the best fork. I love the way you test stuff methodically like in the high-low and this series.
Great ideas.
Love that idea of the "fork quest". If you do this Evan, dont forget to throw in sr suntour (one of their high spec forks not the low end trash) & ohlins
Would like to see a Canyon Stoic or Giant Fathom on the new episode of hardtail quest! Sick video, cant wait for the next. Good luck
no, i rather have new bikes that hardtail party nor evans have tried before,
A canyon stoic would be awesome for hardtail quest
Here’s my prediction: the last bike in this season will be an Orange Clockwork. We’ll just have to wait and see 🤷♂️
It would be super cool if he took everything he learned about geo and every review area he did and made his own custom bike with the exact geometry he likes. Idea probably crazy expensive but would be cool
HT Party did that. He made some interesting observations in his reviews on his custom bike. Tying back to Evan’s comment in the video, geometry is voodoo.
He said it was a Chromag in a reply to another video saying it was a British bike but it’s actually British Columbia (Canada). I’m hoping you are right and Evan didn’t make that mistake
Wrong
You should try the Dartmoor Primal, great geo numbers with compliant feel.
R u polish guy?
@@fafinnneven non-polish guys know about dartmoor brand
I have the 2016 Primal 29 and even though it isn't my main bike and I actually don't need it...I still build up a new bike with it!
It would be cool if you made a budget hardtail quest
Dude this series has been so great! Geometry is like some kind of magic isn’t it? What I think would feel weird, actually doesn’t feel weird at all when riding. Anywho… I am so excited for the steel hardtail series coming up 🤠
It’s definitely late in the series but it would be great to see a Norco torrent on this seiries
I love this series! All Hardtail content is booming!
Love hardtails . My Chromag Surface is so versatile... Though if I could go back in time 5 years I'd buy the Rootdown / Primer instead as Im way more into heading down now ... Good reviews , keep up the good work
Would love to see a review on a commencal meta ht, loving this series I don’t want it to end😂
A stock meta ohlins would be nice. Only thing I would be interested in is the full 29 vs mullet since it comes in both depending on size
If you look up his older videos you will see that he has already owned a commencal meta HT and now he has sold the bike, it was too stiff for his ankles
nice ill have a look @@walken199
@@walken199 an older one. Is the newer one better?
@@yamahschector The new Commencal HT has slight improvements but I would still say that the reach is still too short and it is not possible to upsize cause of the seat tube height.
Evan complains about the frame being too stiff, I personally owned a Commencal meta ht 2021 and was not bothered by the frame being too stiff but I know a lot of people do and I don’t think much has changed on that level.
The 2022 Commencal Meta HT runs probably better as a mullet than a full 29” due to the high bottom bracket.
Maybe you are bottoming out the fork more easily on some frames than others is because of stack height? 🤷♂️ maybe you just have a little more weight over the fork with the lower stack height on some of the frames. Just a theory I had, maybe wrong and it may be something else
What about Dartmoor Primal 29'? Please try it)
Great ride just got one
Would love to see the yeti arc on here
I really like that frame, looks like my ns decade dirt jump frame but beefed up ! Plus with that higher bb and adjustable dropouts it's extremely
similar to a dirt jump frame, interesting
Dude the editing is so sick as always great video.
I personaly think in the next three bikes will be Whyte which is a British bike brand.
You should blur your kids faces on TH-cam and social media it’s sad but people will do disgusting things with their pictures and AI😢
Canyon stoic? 🤔 this series is really cool. Been following the entire thing and i love it. Can't wait to see what other series your mind can imagine
How is tubing shape even a thing in your reviews? You gave the RM a shit tubing score but then good looks review.
Red and blue idk about that
Realy cool vídeo, and
you need to tru the Specialized Rockhopper .
Highly requested Canfield? Looks like a fun frame though.
I meant to say highly rated 😂 I feel like the Canfield will be the lowest viewed video out of the series
2:32-2:35 So RM sent Keith’s Banshee Paradox V.3 frame to RSD…
Haha just a picture of tubing, the only one I could find quickly
Just get a Canfield Nimble9 and forget about the rest. 🤙🏻
I really want to see him try the Kona Honzo ESD. I think that’s what it’s called. I just think it looks awesome
Season two is going to be steel frames
@@EvansMTBSagacan’t wait!
I'm also waiting for that so bad
Mountaincycle rumble best hardtail ever
last bike will mayb be a cotic?
Sick video as always
I've been strongly considering this bike lately. Probably will be clicking that order button soon. Seems like such a good bike frame and loadout too.
I came across a company the other day with kind of a similar bike. Wyatt Bicycles, the vista frame specifically. They say its an aggressive trail bike but it doesn't feel out of place jumping. Obviously too late for this season but may be something that peaks your interest. Made in usa too.
Yeah I saw one of those on Pinkbike and considered it, but was worried it was more of a fat bike frame
Love my Vista. Great choice. @wyatbikes
@@glenhuizenga6251 Awesome to hear. They are on my list of bikes I want to give a try. Plus their prices on complete bikes really arent bad considering they are a tiny company and usa made. Alot of the usa bike companies unfortunately are out of my budget.
I'm betting that the last bike in the series is a Cotic Bfe max
That’s interesting that the Middlechild rated so highly as a 29er. Although it can handle different wheel sizes…Alex from RSD would definitely say it’s more intended to be a 27.5 wheel bike. Side note the steel version would solve some of the compliance issues and look better in my opinion.
True that this frame was designed around 27.5” wheels, not 29ers. Maybe the sliding dropouts help in keeping it fun and versatile with various wheel sizes in spite of the higher BB. So many variables but it works!
Regarding the steel version, I’ve read several comments from various sources that the steel version is not as compliant as people think it would be - actually, it’s almost as stiff as the aluminum frame. Now, if the Ti version could enter the search, it would win hands down in the compliance department while keeping everything else the same. But alas, this HT Quest series only involves aluminum frames.
you should for sure try a dartmoor primal frame. I have one still in the go to bikes and its the best hardtail i have ever had!
Marin el rey would be one of the most extreme hardtails you'll ever test. At least do that
Ooh Stanton, Bird or Orange coming up?
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Hey Evan,
I would like to purchase a Middlechild. Unfortunately all that Alex has left is larges. I am 5’10. What size are you running and how tall are you? Do you think I’ll need to throw on a short stem?
Was already looking at an RSD and here you go scoring it higher than the Nukeproof which was the other bike in the quest. If I do get the RSD I'll go with the cromo one for a steel is real feel. Loving the series.
I saw a video review of the steel RSD by Hardtail Party and it wasn't smoother than the aluminum version. I'm also a steel frame fan and used to have two steel hardtails. My previous one was a Chromag Wideangle and I replaced it with a Nukeproof Scout 275. Scout was a bit harsher, but I can also run plus tires on it to make it smoother than the Chromag. Then again, Chromags aren't known to be plush for steel. If I were to do it all over again, I'd get a Stanton frame.
@@leokuo7127 Stanton's look nice, but the versatility of the RSD and having it built in my home town makes it a bit more accessible. I also like the provincial emblem on the back of the seat tube. My Optic has the maple leaf there. And I'm more patriotic than I thought LOL
I think this bike would really shine in skate park taking big hits with a raked out 160 mm fork with 38 stanchions like an old rockshox totem (40 mm) or a zeb
I would love to see you add the Santa Cruz Chameleon to the list!
Will Charles come back? :(
Great video as always! Have you considered checking out the Santa Cruz Chameleon or the Salsa Timberjack? Two of my favorite hardtails!
You didn't watch the video, did you
I did miss that part on the first viewing lol@@80nodrog
Try the whyte 429 hard tail
Love the series so far, you should try the Dartmoor Hornet Pro, it's an agressive frame with 420mm chainstays, i think you'll love it.
It looks like an interesting frame, the only downside is it seems a tad heavy but still would make an interesting review.
I think the hornet pro is a 27.5 only and Evan is only reviewing 29" wheels.
Either way it would be about time that someone makes a good review with these damn Dartmoor hornet's caus for some reason no one is doing it
I hope you try Asian brands.
I'm curious how they hold up to bigger brands😂😂
Please do a Marin el Roy. It’s a unique frame and very well built. I would love if you gave it a shot
Plain round tubing, ugly looking gussets, straight 44mm head tube (for the price tapered head tube should be there) overweight frame,and the price!!!?
I would never buy that frame...😌
Try the NS Eccentric
Lol! The best hard tail and sexiest hard tail in the world now is the new pinarello dogma XC! Made in Italy 😊. I have a Santa Cruz and now after 8+ years of waiting next year will bring the new pinarello 🎉 yey!
Dude I am loving the mid school BMX you are putting in the videos! Those ProConcept BMX's where amazing bikes!
I definitely wanted a Pro Concepts, Staats, or Redman but my parents wouldn't buy it for me haha. I'd love to build one of those up now
Cannondale Habit HT
I know this might be a little late, but you should have at least a look at the Nicolai Argon GAM. It’s a small manufacturer from Germany ;)
pls do a norco fluid ht or a norco storm 1 pls i watch every one of your vidoes
The horizon lock is a pile of steaming turd. That camera was impressing me until I saw that. Way too much cropping.
Yeah it wasn't great, but I don't like that setting for GoPro either. Rocksteady, the Middle stability, is the best
Dont be shy give the Canyon stoic a try
Comunidad de Evans , ayuda , en mi área comenzó a hacer demasiado calor con humedad 80-90% , una botella de agua no es suficiente , y mi bicicleta solo tiene capacidad para uno ; quiero comprar una Osprey Siskin 8 o 12? Cuál recomiendan ? En rango de precio maximo $70 USD
To bad you couldn't get a hold of an Orbea laufey. There is like 1 video rewiev online. Most bikes have more rewievs then 1
The 'best hardtail in the world' wont be made of aluminium alloy. Will it be carbon, steel or titanium is open to debate but any is better than al!oy
the rear slides more to the front for the 27,5 wheels. this bike looks sick!
Maybe all the way slammed with 26 🤤
for me, with my bmx background, looks like the perfect fit. almost like a DJ or a hybrid like my MOB 26"er@@EvansMTBSaga
This series is all most done, but do not have one bike please try out the Marin bobcat 4. Can you do bike giveaway.
Aluminum RSD's always looked goofy to me. Their chromoly frames look so much more proportional.
Cool vid man! You could auction all your frames off like Paul Aston, if you couldn't return them :)
hey evan why dont you try nsbikes eccentric its a 140mm 29er frame and its dirt cheap rn (Frame)
I feel like all these slack bikes are just big bmx bikes. And how does that computer not fall off the bars
Good series, have you managed to get your hands on the cracy geo "On one hello dave" from Planet X uk?
Pls do canyon stoic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try the Chromag Rootddown next!
SANTA CRUZ CHAMELEON. It’s more expensive but you get what you pay for
I’m from the uk and here the Vitus sentier is a really popular bike it would be really cool to see you review it
Thanks 🙏 really appreciate it . I will say if u add. Giant fathom that will be great too
Does the EC44 not add 13mm to the stack
I don't know if that's factored in, pardon my ignorance on that!
chromoly is the way go. Aluminum is okay t0 though. Titanium is dentist money
The engraved chain stats are sick
All we want in life it's versatility. Maximize joy, minimize costs.
This bike is designed for 27.5 plus wheel set . So bb feel more natural
I own a RSD RS-291.... The gnarly big bro of the Middlechild..... RSD is hands down one if the brst bike companies going....
Very heavy frame, check a Lynskey Live wire Ti frame.
You must be turning into a master mechanic with all these swapping out parts to frames. quite the workout too it looks like.
Haha it feels like it. I can swap a frame in about 15 minutes now
@@EvansMTBSaga I recently did a lower fork service and took me like 3 hours lol, first time and took breaks though.
Canfield nimble 9 it on my radar even though I already have 2 hardtails
_Time for some chunk runs_ ha ha ha ha my inner 8 year old had a good laugh at that 😂
the steel middle child looks way cleaner but atlas
Very serious question- the geometry of this bike is IDENTICAL to the banshee paradox- why did they score so differently?
They aren't identical. STA - 74 RSD, 76.3 Banshee. RSD longer reach, way lower stack, higher BB, slacker head tube.
NS bike Eccentric would be nice to see its 29 and its a cheap frame
Is the British brand airdrop
small british brand, really hoping it's from someone like starling
Try Dartmoor hornet Pro
Try the Fuse, one of the best I think
I am an hour from there factory. Can't wait to see there 160 front and 145 rear full squish
Me on my Rockrider st530 hardtail 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
imma go ahead and guess the next bike being British is the orange p7
Could you list the weight of every bike in the description?
I’m really curious to see your review on the Yelli Screamy, I’m considering getting this frame, I personally owned the Canyon Stoic and the RSD middle child, I can say that they are both great bikes, but I really love the Canyon Stoic at the moment.
So I’m guessing that you are going to review the On One Hello Dave, am I wrong? If it is that it definitely will be different than the other bikes.
I am biased since I have this bike, but some of the criticisms he had are solved by running it with 27.5s, which is the intended build version. I have 2.8 plus tubeless which can take really low pressures. It eats up chunk and smooths out trails. Also, I found having the sliding dropouts changes the feel of the bike immensely. I didn’t think it would. When I had the rear wheels all the way forward, it didn’t feel quite right. It felt unstable for me when going down technical trails. Moving them to the middle made the bike handle so much better. But that may change for others. So those sliding dropouts add a HUGE value to the bike due to changing ride feel on what a person prefers.
see Polish frames Dartmoor hornet & Ns Bike Eccentric 😉
Love to see the tests!
Also if you want something nice and slack with unique features around 130-140mil travel that sticks to the ground like glue and just hunts corners: Stif "Squatch". Lowest BB I've ever ridden on a 29er and it's amazingly fun. Also looks rad cause steel.
maaaaannnnnnn i've been hoping for the yelli screamy, hell yes
Dec 2022, after waiting months for the RSD MC Al to be restocked, found the Marino Cabala, similar geo and made from Reynolds 520, half the price of the steel MC. Was able to add a few custom touches including sliding dropouts and custom color for no additional fees. Hand made in Peru, worth checking out
Ooh, a British brand... Pipedream, Cotic, bird 🤔
Unless they start smoothing out the welds, it's not a bike I would give a 4.9 on build quality. Just look at how nicely stacked and consistent the weld beads look on the Rocky Mountain on the head tube vs this bike. Hopefully, it makes up for that in how it rides.