✅ That’s why though I’ll always respect Prince’s amazing musical talent I have little to no respect for him in a personal sense. He treated his acts in the exact way he claimed was immoral and slave-like.
@@jayskywalker5049 Actually in a interview. It was stated that in reality prince was the morris type and morris was the Jerome type when it came to business and females. It was intended for morris, but after they fell out during purple rain. Prince changed it to fit him.
Got to this video late. This is perfection like Prince. Like Steely Dan, it didn't matter how brilliant of a musician you were. There was a sound Prince wanted and he kicked your butt until you got it or you were gone. As for Steely Dan, you played and they said and simple yes or no. This was the world's introduction to Kirsten Scott-Thomas. She is awesome. Great Work! To be continued...
@Tony I thought it was a horrible movie and it was horrible because Prince wanted to do EVERYTHING and control everybody. I am a huge Prince fan, but that was a horrible movie. Spike Lee or someone who could shoot tragic-comedy should have done it with very little input from Prince. I am so glad he followed this with a great film, the concert film for Sign of the Times which was amazing!
I have a hard time thinking Prince who had a Dad who played Jazz did not know other music besides Sly Stone, James Brown, current top 40. I have always taken issue with that because even a regular person like me in 2021 knows of other genres and jazz, blues, gospel, rock, classical so I have always taken issue with that - Prince was a musician so I never buy that. I also don't buy the story of Prince and the engagement- he gave the ring, He placated her I think to make things a little more peaceful for his band and other endeavors. The more I hear these stories - the more I believe that. Thank you for this video. I can't wait for the next one!
It's amazing 2 me reading some of these comments how some fans have a tendency 2 excuse Prince's bad behavior towards people closes 2 him simply because he's a gifted musical genius!🤔🤔😯 Folks, let's be real here, Prince was an asshole at times, u can't get around that fact!
It wuz about da work. He wuz their boss. My boss, iz an azzwhole! Datz whut bossez do! They don't just wanta b ur friend. Ur boss, makez sure, ur doing ur job correctly, safely, & 2 da max capacity. If ur goofin off - UR FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N sum casez, Prince TRIED 2 mix thangz & datz y we r n here complaining. He brought a friend n ( Morris Day ) & dveloped him. Giving him opportunitiez, dat Searz & Rental Car operationz, were not gonna a4d him! He had fine azz chickz around him, dat he liked 2 sleep wit. So dat backfired on him. PIMPIN, AIN'T EASY! Rapperz, done told u dat!!!! Y u surprised?
@@mrquick6775 Prince bein violent. Letz take Mark Brown. He admitz, he wuzn't puttin no e4t n2 his playin, so Prince kicked him wit his lil boot. I assure u, only thang hurt, wuz Markz ego. If he woulda wiped da floor, wit Prince, we'd have never heard of Mark Brown. ( Brown Mark ) Whichever, u prefer. Anybody else? Mayb u disagree......
I didn't know Susanna said Wendy and and Lisa turned him on to Joni Mitchell. That's funny because he talked about her being an influence as far back as the 1999 era. Joni even commented about recognizing him in the crowd (by his eyes) at one of her Minneapolis shows in the 70's. We can never minimize his collaborators nor their contributions but sometimes certain key figures keep their hands in the cookie jar a little too long.
You’re videos are wonderful. Angelic, even. It’s great to know that there are people out there who actually give valid information without sugarcoating. Keep up the great work, mate. Bud. Chump. Lad. Bloke.
Shit is dope! Prince made these guys but was a control freak and he didn’t want these guys branching off. You see Morris struggled without Prince pushing him.
I disagree, he made them. Warner brothers took the times without listening to them under Prince recommendation. He wrote their music. Morris Day can’t sing that well and Prince wrote for Morris tone level, singular. Whatever Morris wrote didn’t hit. And Morris was on coke like Vanity. To be honest I feel music Time was better when Prince sang them. There are always problems when you work with friends as always jealously and higher expectations in $.. If prince use James Brown’s band leadership as an example as you know james brown was brutal. I think they ALL changed. From prince ideas and fame they all gained a name.. He probably felt ganged up on and expected them to be as hard-working as him.. prince made a comment that he knew what his people, friends were saying but he didn’t go back to defend himself. Some people don’t do that leads to more chaos. I don’t think will watch this podcast anymore. It’s the same shit they’ve been talking about in every podcast. That’s how you make your money isn’t it. I’m done
You’re videos are wonderful. Angelic, even. Please continue this series. The editing and scripting is amazingly fantabulous. It’s great to know that there are people out there who actually give valid information without sugarcoating. Keep up the great work, mate. Bud. Chump. Lad. Bloke.
I get so excited from I get a notification there's another chapter uploaded. You do such a good job and it is truly appreciated. There were many sides to Prince it all boils down to which side you were on is how you got treated. Business or Personal never mix the two, a mistake most of them made including him. Thanks again.
I imagine Prince was inspired buy Casablanca more then Citizen Cane for UTCM... but no doubt he loved them both... and many from that era and earlier. UTCM really has that classic feel of the early Noir and comedy films with a touch of 80's. A true masterpiece IMO.. and a film that should have done better at the Box Office. I guess it was another example of how he was ahead of his time.
As in awe of Prince's musical brilliance as I am, BrownMark should have done "THE WALK" all up and down Prince's backside. Once you're a grown ass man, Nobody lays hands on you without consequence- job be damned.
This series is phenomenal. It’s everything I ever wanted. So many questions answered. Whoever you are, I can’t express my admiration enough for your brilliant work.
Prince one of the greats, just would’ve been cool if he would’ve been a better team player. Alexander O’Neal, the time, Sheila e, cherrelle, Janet, sos band, the revolution, Jimmy jam, terry Lewis, etc. A pop, rock n roll, r and b 80s bomb squad.
My fave Prince movie too (Well, Sign O the Times is my very fave but that's more of a concert movie). I feel like the Prince in Purple Rain is his "Stage Image" but the Prince in UtCM is more like the REAL Prince. Plus, I just think it's a fun movie. I love the whole style of it.
Warner Bros should release Under The Cherry Moon in FULL COLOR. Show it in theaters or even through Amazon Prime first. Then a few months later release it on DVD in color also. This woukd be a good marketing scheme. It would be amazing! L8TR 👊!
LIKE JAMES BROWN BEFORE HIM,PRINCE KNEW EVERY NOTE THAT NEEDED TO BE PLAYED AND IF YOU DIDN'T,THERE WAS HELL TO PAY.AND IN JAMES BOWN'S CASE,THERE WAS MORE THAN HELL TO PAY,SINCE HE WOULD DOCK MONEY FROM YOUR PAY IF YOU MESSED UP OR PLAYED A BAD NOTE IN HIS BAND.BY THE WAY,JAMES BROWN IS THE GREATEST OF THE GREAT.SOME OF YOU WILL CERTAINLY DISAGREE,BUT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER HIM IN HIS ERA AND PRINCE IN HIS ERA AND MICHAEL JACKSON IN HIS ERA AND RICK JAMES IN HIS ERA AND SLY STONE IN HIS ERA.JAMES IS BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM.AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE,COOL,BUT THEY ALL TOOK SOMETHING FROM JAMES BROWN IN THEIR MUSICAL CAREERS.
Our Legend Never Dies 2 bcme whom he was ..he tested the Boundaries many times over Tested us his Supporters n true loves He will never stop playing He will 4eva n always keep dancing his sexiness within our hearts Every day there's a Live Concert within our Hearts UNIVERZAL 💞💜💞 Purple Family
@Tony I like Claire Fischer’s orchestration and Eric Leeds horn arrangements. I think the collaborative efforts brought out the best in Prince. I’m aware that he thought that he didn’t have enough material for Parade. Considering that Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball were written the same year, he did have enough material. Just not in time for the movie deadline. Around the World in a Day is ok, but most of it sounds like Purple Rain B-sides. Parade is fresh and original. At least to my ears.
Just now seeing this and I gotta say @Sinnik22 you outdid yourself here! Bravo! Just like Charles Mingus, Steve Jobs, Miles Davis, James Brown, Picasso and many brilliant, genius level creators, Prince could be a cold blooded MF. I think the “nice” Prince resurfaced in the late 1990s and seemed to flourish in the 2000s when he started to control his music. It’s all so why he seemed to be mending so many fences when he knew his time was coming. Thanks for the insight and the corroboration via audio quotes. Just a thought……..You know……….if he had really married Susannah imagine how much would have changed? A legit family might have saved his life.
I disagree, I think even tho he wasn’t perfect , only God is perfect. There’s always two sides to every story , he’s not alive to tell his, & I’m sure Prince at times had to what he had to do
All in all, regardless of the drama, that generation was better than anything that followed. Music sucks nowadays. The biggest recording budget in the world now could not produce anything that can touch what Prince and the family did in the 80s...
_Prince had many faces but he was the true owner of that one crown._ _The industry turned his perfection into ruin, forgetting the hard work of MOTOWN._
@@Sinnik22 I know he did songs from 'Color of Success.'. I just can't recall. At the beginning fanfare...he came down a (lighted?) staircase, from a backlit cityscape, up high like the background on Sign0'the Times!! He worked it the WHOLE concert.
I felt like you might need to hear this, this is pure gold my friend there are a lot of people curious about prince your research is pivotal for us curious minds about this mysterious icon named prince keep going I just subscribed and plan to tell more people about this series your doing an excellent job.
I love Under the Cherry Moon! The movie and my fave song is I Wonder U from the amazing soundtrack! I will always adore Prince forever!! 💜💜💜❤️❤️❤️ Another amazing episode!! 💜❤️🌹🌹
@@Sinnik22 Every episode I watch is just amazing!! Always lifts my spirits and takes my mind off my pain from a health condition. I’m grateful for your amazing work!! Purple Family! 🙏💜💜💜💕💕
I've met some of the people in this documentary. They were all beautiful people. These stories and photos bring back so many great memories of my personal life during the 1980s. PRINCE, Morris Day, Sheila E, Eric Leeds, BROWNMARK, Wendy and Lisa, St.Paul, and everyone else involved in this musical period of Prince's career, were ALL brilliant and talented! I truly believe that there will be a day when most people in the musical world will come to this realization!
UTCM is one of my favorite movies and as time goes on I think it will be appreciated . I always felt it was in the shadow of what preceded it- Purple Rain. *sigh* more Susannah. Prince really had sides to him. It always fascinated me how he kept his women kept. I am sure Jill has stories to tell. Prince was human- a genius amongst us. Prince had a lot on his shoulders. Prince had sides and I think Jill summed it up best, he had a professional relationship and personal ones. Prince did what he had to do to be able to do what he had to do. I get it. Jill also said he had white people for aesthetics. I enjoyed Jerome, liked that Jerome said they needed a director who could "get" their comedy. Jerome makes it seem as if being in France was fun with Prince. It was interesting some said he was mean at that time. Anybody know why? Hmmm . . . . he made sure Susannah was not the lead of UTCM, and gave her a ring to squash the hard feelings😂 Gotta love it , left her home while he enjoyed Paris with Jerome. No words. Thanks for the vid. Prince was special. He was a genius. He was still human. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Maybe he was starting to move past his rock persona into the experimental R&B thing. Rap music was taking over the world at this time and new jack was on the come up. Hard to say what Prince was thinking from moment to moment.
@@Sinnik22 I told Princez Friend, dat I wished Prince wuz mo nterested n pushing his Rock & Roll &/or New Wave side, rather than 2 git n2 da Rap arena. I think da SO CALLED white criticz were rite on 2 countz: #1. Prince started rejecting electronicz, n favor of great musicianz & real nstrumentz. Only problem? Sounded like a Hyatt Regency/Ramada Inn lounge. #2. Prince wuz da trendsetter n da 70z & 80z. He wuz a BIG part of da Minneapolis sound & many actz, like Da DeBargez, Ready 4 da World, etc., followed his lead. During da 90z, n2 da early 2000z, it seemed Prince wuz playin Ketchup, wit Rapperz SMH Keeping da electronicz & making da NPG a neo-Gothic/Hard Rock/Electronic project, woulda kept Prince, way mo nteresting, 4 my taste.
@@Sinnik22 did susannah give the ring back in 86'? I thought that was the ring in the bigging of the film sign O' the times, but cat said the ring in the film was fake.
Hmm....as far as İ know Prince was into Joni from an early age..years before he met Lisa...Joni Mitchell has said she remembers seeing him from a young age in the audience..''that big doe eyed kıd up the front''...;o)
First and foremost, your videos are on point! seriously! Now let me say this... and forgive me if I offend.. but Prince was an ass... I can understand to a point that he had a LOT of things going on with the movie, the Family and the upcoming tour BUT still no one deserves to get their ass handed to them like he was doing. Little do you know that the seeds for the breakup of the Revolution was 4thcoming. You could see it in the air. Then the way he attempted to stall Morris career was beyond petty... And the situation with the group the Family was awful like the Time 2.0 all over again. How do you expect someone who is in a group that you created and had one show ( mind you) to cool their heels while you're off to make a movie... like you, they had to make money too! I don't blame St. Paul! As for Wendy's sister, he used that marriage as a ploy to keep her in check and close to him! And the way he had treated her about her role in the movie was f----ked up! The same thing with JJ. He kept stringing her along with premise of her album that she was around like she did! The only way to go is down! I'm looking to next video!
Well he did say to Tavis Smiley in an interview he could have a mean streak. Of course I think he was talking about in his younger years. The question is, why did most come running back whenever he called?
@@Sinnik22 There was his magnetism, the strong emotional bond that they had formed with him, and the hope that he had changed. I think it was Jimmy that said that Prince could have had everybody under that Paisley Park umbrella. They were all growing and developing under his teaching. Paisley Park could have been the Motown of Minneapolis. When Wendy and Lisa had grown up into composers, which is ultimately what Wendy and Lisa became; composing musical scores/soundtracks for television shows (and even won at least one Emmy) Prince could have become their producer and given them a record deal. Instead, he squashed them and became their armchair producer, criticizing their work because it wasn't how he would have done it. He would grow people for his purposes and get rid of them when they developed a backbone, realizing their talent and worth. Morris, Jimmy, Terry, Lisa, Wendy, Jerome, Dez, Andre, Brownmark, St. Paul, Jill Jones, Susan Rogers, Patty McCreary . . . . . Prince was not into validating people for their talent and hard work. Right here in this episode, Susan Rogers said, "He cared more about the work we were doing than the people as individuals.' This really smacks of the attitude of a slaveholder, doesn't it?? Somehow to him, it seemed that validating others took away from who he was and what he did. How twisted and irrational is that?? How Ironic!!!
@@Sinnik22 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is probably a lot of stories concering Prince and his women that we have to hear or may never come to the surface. It wouldn't surprise me.
Excuse me but Prince WAS LISTENING to Joni Mitchell waaay before Lisa and Joni Mitchell verified Prince was in her audience as a young teenager and one of the front rows in one of her concerts. That is a total LIE that Lisa opened him up to Joni. A total lie. Susannah.
This is interesting in that Wendy says Lisa introduced him to Joni Mitchell, but Joni says she remembers getting fan mail from Prince and seeing him at her concert when he was very young with an Afro. So 🤷 who is telling the truth and what to believe. Morris mentions in his memoir that Prince loved Joni but He wasn’t into her music much, so I am leaning Into the belief that Prince always liked Joni even as a teenager.
That intro I swear…….prince and Kanye make music from the mind and body and that’s where the confidence is and they are not bragging…….I’m kinda the same way……ALL WAYS LOVE URSELF FIRST Then you can S.H.A.R.E……..
So freaking what Bunch of crap. Prince was well schooled in jazz and other due to his dad Come on because the real fans are listening for real It just pisses me off when I hear this shit 👊🏾❤️👊🏾
That's why I take some of the comments from former bandmates with a grain of salt. Mostly everyone is trying hard to act like he would not have achieve his Icon status had it not been for them. Prince's legacy was already preordained. When Susan Rogers said his train was moving fast and he didn't have time for you to catch up, I can certainly see that. People had no choice but to get out of the way.
Thank you family It’s time to say it loud No more will I go along 2get alone When ever we as black peeps have our geniuses others that don’t look like us Well some jump on with this shit Bottom line is Stop pushing up to you ale all credit Hands down 👊🏾❤️👊🏾 Oh an miss Shelia E We watching you girl!!!!!!! Ps go check out Micheal deans podcast Featuring former member cat She spits truth about miss E
I@arielbanks5557 I agree with that because even though Under the Cherry Moon wasn't as great as Purple Rain it was a movie with a plot unlike Graffiti Bridge which was more like a stage play.
See he ask u to marry him cause he didn't want u n the movie, he's prince he knew u would say yes, did he marry u, no, I'm a big fan of prince but he always seem controlling and manipulative but as a fan he was the man as a person,????????
Ok I like prince music 🎶 too but now he's gone and all theses people worked for him now they r talking ,to me prince was no better then the bosses in the music industry ok u the boss pay the people !! Thsts what's it all about they got talented 👏 pay them he own the time but was holding them back , not right but when the big bosses held him back what he do ?? He wanted to fight !!
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I don't know who you are, but your work is absolutely great. You videos answer questions I always had about the Purple Mafia. Great work.
Yeah it's done well
This is just fascinating
Amazing, interesting history!! Prince 4eva!! 💜💜💜
Alottttttt of work and editing!!!!!! We salute you for this continued Masterpiece!!!!!!!! Thank you for keeping Prince Rogers Nelson alive!!!!!!!
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The irony of the guy who was fighting for the rights of artists taking away all the rights from and controlling all the artists he had around him.
@Tony jam and lewis did
@Tony oh right i forgot that prince invented music. it's a wonder any of them can figure out how to brush their teeth without him.
He knew his vision that is why he is Prince
Prince was very controlling
✅ That’s why though I’ll always respect Prince’s amazing musical talent I have little to no respect for him in a personal sense. He treated his acts in the exact way he claimed was immoral and slave-like.
Cherry Moon was a good movie. It was ridiculed because people wanted Purple Rain 2 and it threw them for a loop
True.
I LOVE IT ONE OF MY FAVS...but for some odd reason i cant help but think that role probably was for Morris
@@jayskywalker5049 Actually in a interview. It was stated that in reality prince was the morris type and morris was the Jerome type when it came to business and females. It was intended for morris, but after they fell out during purple rain. Prince changed it to fit him.
I agree. People wanted him to give them that same high they felt in purple rain.
@@PREEM513 he delivered. It was a classy oldschool b/w flick that had it. But they wanted p/r 2.
The quality of these videos is INSAANE!!! WOW!!!
i see you lolz!
Got to this video late. This is perfection like Prince. Like Steely Dan, it didn't matter how brilliant of a musician you were. There was a sound Prince wanted and he kicked your butt until you got it or you were gone. As for Steely Dan, you played and they said and simple yes or no. This was the world's introduction to Kirsten Scott-Thomas. She is awesome. Great Work! To be continued...
Funny you mentioned Steely Dan, on other pair of complicated human beings who happen to be amongst my favorite musicians!
@Tony I thought it was a horrible movie and it was horrible because Prince wanted to do EVERYTHING and control everybody. I am a huge Prince fan, but that was a horrible movie. Spike Lee or someone who could shoot tragic-comedy should have done it with very little input from Prince. I am so glad he followed this with a great film, the concert film for Sign of the Times which was amazing!
I have a hard time thinking Prince who had a Dad who played Jazz did not know other music besides Sly Stone, James Brown, current top 40. I have always taken issue with that because even a regular person like me in 2021 knows of other genres and jazz, blues, gospel, rock, classical so I have always taken issue with that - Prince was a musician so I never buy that. I also don't buy the story of Prince and the engagement- he gave the ring, He placated her I think to make things a little more peaceful for his band and other endeavors. The more I hear these stories - the more I believe that. Thank you for this video. I can't wait for the next one!
Always Vashtix. Pleasure w the Prince
Not to mention he grew up in Minneapolis. Not a heavily dense Urban area. He knew non black music.
This is amazing!!! The people who knew him in their own voices. I love how the editing gets right to the point !!! BRAVO.(The title is interesting )
It's amazing 2 me reading some of these comments how some fans have a tendency 2 excuse Prince's bad behavior towards people closes 2 him simply because he's a gifted musical genius!🤔🤔😯 Folks, let's be real here, Prince was an asshole at times, u can't get around that fact!
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It wuz about da work.
He wuz their boss.
My boss, iz an azzwhole!
Datz whut bossez do!
They don't just wanta b ur friend.
Ur boss, makez sure, ur doing ur job correctly, safely, & 2 da max capacity.
If ur goofin off - UR FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N sum casez, Prince TRIED 2 mix thangz & datz y we r n here complaining. He brought a friend n ( Morris Day ) & dveloped him. Giving him opportunitiez, dat Searz & Rental Car operationz, were not gonna a4d him!
He had fine azz chickz around him, dat he liked 2 sleep wit. So dat backfired on him. PIMPIN, AIN'T EASY! Rapperz, done told u dat!!!! Y u surprised?
@@Einnor084 Nah, he was laying hands on people and being violent tword them..
@@mrquick6775
Prince bein violent.
Letz take Mark Brown.
He admitz, he wuzn't puttin no e4t n2 his playin, so Prince kicked him wit his lil boot.
I assure u, only thang hurt, wuz Markz ego.
If he woulda wiped da floor, wit Prince, we'd have never heard of Mark Brown. ( Brown Mark ) Whichever, u prefer.
Anybody else? Mayb u disagree......
I didn't know Susanna said Wendy and and Lisa turned him on to Joni Mitchell. That's funny because he talked about her being an influence as far back as the 1999 era. Joni even commented about recognizing him in the crowd (by his eyes) at one of her Minneapolis shows in the 70's. We can never minimize his collaborators nor their contributions but sometimes certain key figures keep their hands in the cookie jar a little too long.
Like Prince's dad never happened
Dude...Whomever you are...you have know idea how entertaining this has been through this covic shit...thank you thank you THANK YOU
You’re videos are wonderful. Angelic, even. It’s great to know that there are people out there who actually give valid information without sugarcoating. Keep up the great work, mate. Bud. Chump. Lad. Bloke.
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I LOVE THIS SHIT
Shit is dope! Prince made these guys but was a control freak and he didn’t want these guys branching off. You see Morris struggled without Prince pushing him.
Can’t help but think Prince had something to do w the struggles.
I disagree, he made them. Warner brothers took the times without listening to them under Prince recommendation. He wrote their music. Morris Day can’t sing that well and Prince wrote for Morris tone level, singular. Whatever Morris wrote didn’t hit. And Morris was on coke like Vanity. To be honest I feel music Time was better when Prince sang them. There are always problems when you work with friends as always jealously and higher expectations in $.. If prince use James Brown’s band leadership as an example as you know james brown was brutal. I think they ALL changed. From prince ideas and fame they all gained a name.. He probably felt ganged up on and expected them to be as hard-working as him.. prince made a comment that he knew what his people, friends were saying but he didn’t go back to defend himself. Some people don’t do that leads to more chaos. I don’t think will watch this podcast anymore. It’s the same shit they’ve been talking about in every podcast. That’s how you make your money isn’t it. I’m done
You’re videos are wonderful. Angelic, even. Please continue this series. The editing and scripting is amazingly fantabulous. It’s great to know that there are people out there who actually give valid information without sugarcoating. Keep up the great work, mate. Bud. Chump. Lad. Bloke.
i wonder who YOU ARE ya lil scamp! lolz
I get so excited from I get a notification there's another chapter uploaded. You do such a good job and it is truly appreciated. There were many sides to Prince it all boils down to which side you were on is how you got treated. Business or Personal never mix the two, a mistake most of them made including him. Thanks again.
Completely humbled. Tell a friend 🤓
Much respect for your work. Can't wait for your next installment of the series.
Thank you. That’s really kind and it means everything. Enjoy the Prince.
I imagine Prince was inspired buy Casablanca more then Citizen Cane for UTCM... but no doubt he loved them both... and many from that era and earlier.
UTCM really has that classic feel of the early Noir and comedy films with a touch of 80's. A true masterpiece IMO.. and a film that should have done better at the Box Office. I guess it was another example of how he was ahead of his time.
This is just pure awesomeness! Thank you once again for putting this together! i'm watching this on my birthday and man is it a great day now!
Happy
lATE birthday!
Great stuff as always, thank you for making these.
Happy to. Share!☺️
Brilliant. These are so well done.
Really glad you're enjoying the Prince doc series.
As in awe of Prince's musical brilliance as I am, BrownMark should have done "THE WALK" all up and down Prince's backside.
Once you're a grown ass man, Nobody lays hands on you without consequence- job be damned.
Agreed
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DAWG PERIOD
True point.
This series is phenomenal. It’s everything I ever wanted. So many questions answered. Whoever you are, I can’t express my admiration enough for your brilliant work.
Huge compliment, thanks so much ☺️
I am so hyped for the next one! Keep up the good work👍🏿
It's coming...thanks WKK
Been waiting for the next episode!! Excellent as always!! Thanks so much!
Glad you're liking SM!
Queen Sha- hang tight Queen
MINNEAPOLIS!!!!!! I SMELL THE DEDICATION IN PUTTING THIS VIDEO TOGETHER. APPRECIATE THE TIME. WORD TO MORRIS DAY.
You smell what we coookin 😂😉
You are amazing! Thank you for this!
Parade is my favorite prince album. And under the cherry is not a bad movie. Just bad ending.
Agree, I don't think the movie was bad at all
Its a good enough album but hej, Prince, Dirty mind, contreversy, 1999, Purple rain....
Parade is my favorite album also. A really fantastic collection of songs.
And bad acting prince was a bad actor tbh
@@jimbombadill well I didn’t say I didn’t like the others but parade is my favorite and just works for my taste. To each they own.
Prince one of the greats, just would’ve been cool if he would’ve been a better team player. Alexander O’Neal, the time, Sheila e, cherrelle, Janet, sos band, the revolution, Jimmy jam, terry Lewis, etc. A pop, rock n roll, r and b 80s bomb squad.
You are really putting in some fantastic work, thank you 🙏🏽
I appreciate that greatly
Under The Cherry Moon Is My Favorite Movie.
People are doing a rethink on this film. Lots of folks agree w you
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My fave Prince movie too (Well, Sign O the Times is my very fave but that's more of a concert movie). I feel like the Prince in Purple Rain is his "Stage Image" but the Prince in UtCM is more like the REAL Prince. Plus, I just think it's a fun movie. I love the whole style of it.
CLASSIC
Mine 2 💜💜💜💜💜
Warner Bros should release Under The Cherry Moon in FULL COLOR. Show it in theaters or even through Amazon Prime first. Then a few months later release it on DVD in color also. This woukd be a good marketing scheme. It would be amazing! L8TR 👊!
PReach!
Yes, indeed!!🙌💥💯
@@SpookyElectric319"He dead". Release in full color for our viewing pleasure. So the world can see this great movie in its colorful beauty.
Your work is a class act . Thank you so much for this !
LIKE JAMES BROWN BEFORE HIM,PRINCE KNEW EVERY NOTE THAT NEEDED TO BE PLAYED AND IF YOU DIDN'T,THERE WAS HELL TO PAY.AND IN JAMES BOWN'S CASE,THERE WAS MORE THAN HELL TO PAY,SINCE HE WOULD DOCK MONEY FROM YOUR PAY IF YOU MESSED UP OR PLAYED A BAD NOTE IN HIS BAND.BY THE WAY,JAMES BROWN IS THE GREATEST OF THE GREAT.SOME OF YOU WILL CERTAINLY DISAGREE,BUT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER HIM IN HIS ERA AND PRINCE IN HIS ERA AND MICHAEL JACKSON IN HIS ERA AND RICK JAMES IN HIS ERA AND SLY STONE IN HIS ERA.JAMES IS BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM.AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE,COOL,BUT THEY ALL TOOK SOMETHING FROM JAMES BROWN IN THEIR MUSICAL CAREERS.
Our Legend
Never Dies
2 bcme whom he was ..he tested the Boundaries many times over
Tested us his Supporters n true loves
He will never stop playing
He will 4eva n always keep dancing his sexiness within our hearts
Every day there's a Live Concert within our Hearts
UNIVERZAL 💞💜💞
Purple Family
The big question: Did he fly that big ass Lm-1 with him over to France??🤣
@CJ Jr. Its huge. The back end of that machine is long . It will look smaller next to an OB synth but its big, especially to lag around.
Parade, (and all the associated recordings that were later released), is a masterpiece, IMO.
@Tony I like Claire Fischer’s orchestration and Eric Leeds horn arrangements. I think the collaborative efforts brought out the best in Prince. I’m aware that he thought that he didn’t have enough material for Parade. Considering that Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball were written the same year, he did have enough material. Just not in time for the movie deadline. Around the World in a Day is ok, but most of it sounds like Purple Rain B-sides. Parade is fresh and original. At least to my ears.
Thanks for the new episodes. 😊
Pleasure. Prince still has so much more in his crazy & brilliant career
Just now seeing this and I gotta say @Sinnik22 you outdid yourself here! Bravo! Just like Charles Mingus, Steve Jobs, Miles Davis, James Brown, Picasso and many brilliant, genius level creators, Prince could be a cold blooded MF. I think the “nice” Prince resurfaced in the late 1990s and seemed to flourish in the 2000s when he started to control his music. It’s all so why he seemed to be mending so many fences when he knew his time was coming. Thanks for the insight and the corroboration via audio quotes. Just a thought……..You know……….if he had really married Susannah imagine how much would have changed? A legit family might have saved his life.
I love Prince, he was talented, sexy and enigmatic. He was also a controlling, abusive narcissist who took advantage of his position and fame.
I disagree, I think even tho he wasn’t perfect , only God is perfect. There’s always two sides to every story , he’s not alive to tell his, & I’m sure Prince at times had to what he had to do
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SMH @ da ladiez.
I'm quite sho, workin 4 them, would b a breeze.
CAN WE SAY, BALLZZZzzzzzzzzzzz N chainZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?
@@saiyanleague653So, you're justifying his abuse?
All in all, regardless of the drama, that generation was better than anything that followed. Music sucks nowadays. The biggest recording budget in the world now could not produce anything that can touch what Prince and the family did in the 80s...
Love this, thank you.
_Prince had many faces but he was the true owner of that one crown._
_The industry turned his perfection into ruin, forgetting the hard work of MOTOWN._
Wisdom!
I SAW MORRIS DAY & HIS FIRST SOLO TOUR IN 1985. IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS I EVER SAW IN MY '80s DAYS...
Did he do “the Time” songs?
@@Sinnik22 I know he did songs from 'Color of Success.'. I just can't recall. At the beginning fanfare...he came down a (lighted?) staircase, from a backlit cityscape, up high like the background on Sign0'the Times!! He worked it the WHOLE concert.
Came back around and cracked me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Prince was a trip. definitely a lot to deal with
This itself was like a movie..I needed popcorn. And to turnoff the lights. Wow.🍿🍿🍿
Prince was a perfectionist
He's is a great musician and could play all.those instruments is great indeed I really he's great preson. Sadly missing him
Cavallo, Ruffalo, and Farnoli know that they were some SHADY characters, it's no wonder Prince fired them....
There’s something problematic about certain interference that they ran.
They also managed Maurice White & EW&F during the 70s, they were a well oiled machine, good or bad.
I felt like you might need to hear this, this is pure gold my friend there are a lot of people curious about prince your research is pivotal for us curious minds about this mysterious icon named prince keep going I just subscribed and plan to tell more people about this series your doing an excellent job.
I love Under the Cherry Moon! The movie and my fave song is I Wonder U from the amazing soundtrack! I will always adore Prince forever!! 💜💜💜❤️❤️❤️
Another amazing episode!! 💜❤️🌹🌹
Ahhhhh, you’re catching up on old eps!
@@Sinnik22 Every episode I watch is just amazing!! Always lifts my spirits and takes my mind off my pain from a health condition. I’m grateful for your amazing work!! Purple Family! 🙏💜💜💜💕💕
This is Incredibly made ...thanks
I've noticed around about 1985-86 Prince music started changing he was changing too especially articulate/artistic
He got more experimental
@@christianrose5116 Around the World in a Day is a thorough masterpiece. Start to finish.
@@danavixen6274 one of my favorite prince albums
I would have been the last person he ever put his hands on!
You've done it again Sinnik22.... Lawd
💜💜💜☂️☂️☂️☂️💜💜☂️☂️I am Hooked on these..thank you
@00:58 “Eric brought a lot to the band, with his horny (what’whats?) ?”
Lol
I've met some of the people in this documentary. They were all beautiful people.
These stories and photos bring back so many great memories of my personal life during the 1980s.
PRINCE, Morris Day, Sheila E, Eric Leeds, BROWNMARK, Wendy and Lisa, St.Paul, and everyone else involved in this musical period of Prince's career, were ALL brilliant and talented!
I truly believe that there will be a day when most people in the musical world will come to this realization!
UTCM is one of my favorite movies and as time goes on I think it will be appreciated . I always felt it was in the shadow of what preceded it- Purple Rain. *sigh* more Susannah. Prince really had sides to him. It always fascinated me how he kept his women kept. I am sure Jill has stories to tell. Prince was human- a genius amongst us. Prince had a lot on his shoulders. Prince had sides and I think Jill summed it up best, he had a professional relationship and personal ones. Prince did what he had to do to be able to do what he had to do. I get it. Jill also said he had white people for aesthetics. I enjoyed Jerome, liked that Jerome said they needed a director who could "get" their comedy. Jerome makes it seem as if being in France was fun with Prince. It was interesting some said he was mean at that time. Anybody know why? Hmmm . . . . he made sure Susannah was not the lead of UTCM, and gave her a ring to squash the hard feelings😂 Gotta love it , left her home while he enjoyed Paris with Jerome. No words. Thanks for the vid. Prince was special. He was a genius. He was still human. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Maybe he was starting to move past his rock persona into the experimental R&B thing. Rap music was taking over the world at this time and new jack was on the come up. Hard to say what Prince was thinking from moment to moment.
@@Sinnik22
I told Princez Friend, dat I wished Prince wuz mo nterested n pushing his Rock & Roll &/or New Wave side, rather than 2 git n2 da Rap arena. I think da SO CALLED white criticz were rite on 2 countz:
#1. Prince started rejecting electronicz, n favor of great musicianz & real nstrumentz. Only problem? Sounded like a Hyatt Regency/Ramada Inn lounge.
#2. Prince wuz da trendsetter n da 70z & 80z. He wuz a BIG part of da Minneapolis sound & many actz, like Da DeBargez, Ready 4 da World, etc., followed his lead. During da 90z, n2 da early 2000z, it seemed Prince wuz playin Ketchup, wit Rapperz
SMH
Keeping da electronicz & making da NPG a neo-Gothic/Hard Rock/Electronic project, woulda kept Prince, way mo nteresting, 4 my taste.
"I wanna do my own thing...now that you made me a star"
What did it ever come to for any of them?
Relative obscurity
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(UTCM was shot in the French Riviera bro, not Paris)
Ahhh I see what you mean now
@@Sinnik22 He did own a house in Paris 😎, on Avenue Foch . 😉 All with the 💜🙏
C'est vrai 😉💜🤘🏿
I'll tell u this right now : I don't give a fkk how much I like Prince...if he kicked me....he would have a WHUPPT ASS...real talk.
He's definitely NOT gonna grabbing my ear and cursing in it without me elbowing his jaw!!
he was a pain in the ass but he made them all stars being a perfectionist and a wonder...its very hard
That ring though!
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@@Sinnik22 did susannah give the ring back in 86'? I thought that was the ring in the bigging of the film sign O' the times, but cat said the ring in the film was fake.
@@saa9099 She says she no longer has it. she either gave it back or he asked for it.
Hmm....as far as İ know Prince was into Joni from an early age..years before he met Lisa...Joni Mitchell has said she remembers seeing him from a young age in the audience..''that big doe eyed kıd up the front''...;o)
First and foremost, your videos are on point! seriously!
Now let me say this... and forgive me if I offend.. but Prince was an ass... I can understand to a point that he had a LOT of things going on with the movie, the Family and the upcoming tour BUT still no one deserves to get their ass handed to them like he was doing. Little do you know that the seeds for the breakup of the Revolution was 4thcoming. You could see it in the air. Then the way he attempted to stall Morris career was beyond petty... And the situation with the group the Family was awful like the Time 2.0 all over again. How do you expect someone who is in a group that you created and had one show ( mind you) to cool their heels while you're off to make a movie... like you, they had to make money too! I don't blame St. Paul! As for Wendy's sister, he used that marriage as a ploy to keep her in check and close to him! And the way he had treated her about her role in the movie was f----ked up! The same thing with JJ. He kept stringing her along with premise of her album that she was around like she did! The only way to go is down! I'm looking to next video!
Piling on the pressure!!! I LOVE IT! I hope to rise to your challenge bruh!!!!☝️🤨
@@Sinnik22 Man, you never disappoint ! That's why I comment like I do! Sorry about the essay! But this one was GOOD!
Well he did say to Tavis Smiley in an interview he could have a mean streak. Of course I think he was talking about in his younger years. The question is, why did most come running back whenever he called?
@@chica4530 talent and $ and opportunity that wasn't elsewhere for a lot of them
@@Sinnik22 There was his magnetism, the strong emotional bond that they had formed with him, and the hope that he had changed.
I think it was Jimmy that said that Prince could have had everybody under that Paisley Park umbrella. They were all growing and developing under his teaching. Paisley Park could have been the Motown of Minneapolis.
When Wendy and Lisa had grown up into composers, which is ultimately what Wendy and Lisa became; composing musical scores/soundtracks for television shows (and even won at least one Emmy) Prince could have become their producer and given them a record deal. Instead, he squashed them and became their armchair producer, criticizing their work because it wasn't how he would have done it.
He would grow people for his purposes and get rid of them when they developed a backbone, realizing their talent and worth. Morris, Jimmy, Terry, Lisa, Wendy, Jerome, Dez, Andre, Brownmark, St. Paul, Jill Jones, Susan Rogers, Patty McCreary . . . . . Prince was not into validating people for their talent and hard work. Right here in this episode, Susan Rogers said, "He cared more about the work we were doing than the people as individuals.' This really smacks of the attitude of a slaveholder, doesn't it?? Somehow to him, it seemed that validating others took away from who he was and what he did. How twisted and irrational is that?? How Ironic!!!
The MOJO interview 👌🏾❤👌🏾
This movie was good but i still love purple rain. As far as his attitude. My ex was a Gemini and they do like control. I still love me some prince.💜
Gotta still love Prince. He was 25-26 doing the most
He's the Greatest
Seems like Jill and Susannah had some tension.
Y’think 😂😂😂
@@Sinnik22 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is probably a lot of stories concering Prince and his women that we have to hear or may never come to the surface. It wouldn't surprise me.
@@Sinnik22 I always thought Jill was a better fit for him. Do you know why he got engaged to Susannah instead?
@@Chasedwalkif im not mistaken Jill Jones wasn't feeling "she always in my head"
Prince absolutely amazing artist and Musician but he was a pain also I love him for his Musicianship played everything the guy was COOL period
Well done!
if a girl was on top of you... you would be under the "cherry moon "
Wow so the Wendy and Lisa song about was actually true indeed
Excuse me but Prince WAS LISTENING to Joni Mitchell waaay before Lisa and Joni Mitchell verified Prince was in her audience as a young teenager and one of the front rows in one of her concerts. That is a total LIE that Lisa opened him up to Joni. A total lie. Susannah.
Prince is awesome
Why does he sound drunk or high?? 🤔
Prince don't need the band., he is the
Band!!(bigg_facts!!!)☺☺☺😊😊😊😀😀😀😍😍😍😳😳😳😝😝😝😝😜😄😄😙🐍🐍🐱🐱👀💦👄✌✌
1 man.
Prince was hurt the starr company was gone
This is interesting in that Wendy says Lisa introduced him to Joni Mitchell, but Joni says she remembers getting fan mail from Prince and seeing him at her concert when he was very young with an Afro. So 🤷 who is telling the truth and what to believe. Morris mentions in his memoir that Prince loved Joni but
He wasn’t into her music much, so I am leaning Into the belief that Prince always liked Joni even as a teenager.
Safe bet.
Just release the detroit birthday movie already ...damn
What is that!?!?
@@tomfilus6030 The concert that was pro-shot in 1986. They clipped anotherloverholenyohead from it (yellow suit).
I have it ...had it many years im from DETROIT it was shoot at cobo downtown..mine has another lover on it
The more I hear stories about what or how Prince was, I love him more...im the same damn way
WHERE IS THAT FOOTAGE AT 2:39 MINUTES FROM!!!??
I swear, I wanna see that too!! 😂
When he fire andre cymone he just got meaner
I thought Prince wrote a letter to Joni Mitchell when he was a kid. How did Lisa introduce him to Mitchell's music?
That intro I swear…….prince and Kanye make music from the mind and body and that’s where the confidence is and they are not bragging…….I’m kinda the same way……ALL WAYS LOVE URSELF FIRST
Then you can S.H.A.R.E……..
Really liked this movie just as much if not more than Purple Rain definitely better than GB which sucked 😝 lol
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Interesting
So freaking what
Bunch of crap. Prince was well schooled in jazz and other due to his dad
Come on because the real fans are listening for real
It just pisses me off when I hear this shit
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That's why I take some of the comments from former bandmates with a grain of salt. Mostly everyone is trying hard to act like he would not have achieve his Icon status had it not been for them. Prince's legacy was already preordained. When Susan Rogers said his train was moving fast and he didn't have time for you to catch up, I can certainly see that. People had no choice but to get out of the way.
Thank you family
It’s time to say it loud
No more will I go along 2get alone
When ever we as black peeps have our geniuses others that don’t look like us
Well some jump on with this shit
Bottom line is
Stop pushing up to you ale all credit
Hands down 👊🏾❤️👊🏾
Oh an miss Shelia E
We watching you girl!!!!!!!
Ps go check out Micheal deans podcast
Featuring former member cat
She spits truth about miss E
If you have a Million dollar Music Studio why don't you create songs and music that
Is different from what people are making in 2021?.
Recka stow
If you wanna buy a sam cook album where do you go...?
WREKA STOW
I saw Under The Cherry 💣 and it wasn't as good as Purple 🌧️ was and his third movie Graffiti Bridge was more like a play than a movie.
Graffiti Bridge was hor ri ble !! Under The 🍒 🌙 was at least okay 👍🏾
I@arielbanks5557 I agree with that because even though Under the Cherry Moon wasn't as great as Purple Rain it was a movie with a plot unlike Graffiti Bridge which was more like a stage play.
...shame on 'Princess'...I knew there was another reason why I prefer Michael Jackson over princess...
Lol
See he ask u to marry him cause he didn't want u n the movie, he's prince he knew u would say yes, did he marry u, no, I'm a big fan of prince but he always seem controlling and manipulative but as a fan he was the man as a person,????????
tooooo many effects . but otherwise great
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Susanah and Wendy and Lisa are so narcissistic
Ok I like prince music 🎶 too but now he's gone and all theses people worked for him now they r talking ,to me prince was no better then the bosses in the music industry ok u the boss pay the people !! Thsts what's it all about they got talented 👏 pay them he own the time but was holding them back , not right but when the big bosses held him back what he do ?? He wanted to fight !!
@CJ Jr. he would sue everyone 🤣 he didn't want his bizz in the streets that's how he was
Sinnik is truly a Master of Information. Awesome video my Friend. Peace ♡
I’m stealing that fam!!!!