Very helpful. Thank you! I'm leaning towards an aluminum model like the Massca. You definitely nudged me further that way. The 720 at my local store didn't seem that sturdy and you confirmed.
You read my mind, I was looking at the new one in the store the other day trying to decide whether I "needed" to upgrade. You helped make my mind up. I did get an Armor Tool clamp for my K4 awhile back and really like it, it's much easier to adjust switching back and forth between board thicknesses. It auto adjusts to the board thickness by itself, check it out sometime, I think I paid like $30.
I have the old K4 and it’s tremendous. Your video proves that I don’t need to move up. I think new users would like the new one fine. Kreg makes great products like the hinge jig and shelf hole jig.
Hello Daniel! Glad I could help! I own the drawer slide jig and drawer hardware jig and a bunch of the clamps. I've been happy with everything I've bought from Kreg. Im sure they are under a lot of pressure to innovate and release new products. Glad I got the K4 when it was out. Thanks for watching!!
Bought that jig to retrofit 60-70 year old kitchen cabinets for modern slides and new boxes. Jig works perfect and was a huge help. If I did that again though Id build the boxes for under drawer slides instead.
Thanks I have K4 and changed the clamp to an armor tool clamp upgrade. It’s a much better clamp than the original. I was wondering if it was worth upgrading to 720 but this review has me rethinking it. Thanks!
I have the K4 and I made a small upgrade to it. I swapped out the work holding clamp for an auto lock clamp and it has been great. No more turning the screw when working with different thickness materials. I got mine from armor tool but I know Rockler sells a similar clamp. I wouldn’t change my K4 for any other pocket hole jig. It’s robust and feels like it will outlast any of the newer versions.
I just bought the k4 secondhand for $20 (along with a $40 dewalt biscuit jointer, a couple bar clamps, and a set of forsner bits), and I already know it'll last me forever. I'm glad I read about the auto adjusting clamp from yours and another comment, I'll definitely be upgrading it to that.
I do have the 720. I would buy it again for what I paid for it. I picked it up at Lowes for 70 bucks. It was clearance.. Seems fine to me. I also put that clamp on you showed first. It worked fine on my bench, it's wood not metal.
This is one of the best comparison videos I have ever seen for any product! I own both of these…. The one thing I always struggle with is why are the holes A, B and C? 😂
Very nice job explaining the differences. Enjoying your videos! I have that older one, no dust port though, that would've been nice. I think I would like using it if I mounted it and added some support boards...just getting setup and more serious about stuff, so that'll be happening soon. Keep up the good work!
I paid $90 for mine. For some reason it was on sale, while others right next to it were regular price. The cashier double checked the price for me and I ran with it. I really do like it.
I know this is two years old but thanks. I have had the k4 so long I almost forgot I had it. I was about to buy tge 720 pro figuring it had to be better. But seems like they just made it look cooler without actually increasing the quality.
You nailed it Kevin! Sometimes it’s cool to find out you already have the best version. Now you can spend the cash where it’ll count. Thanks for watching!
just stumbled on this 720 video…. noticed the red star immediately! … about to dive further into Kreg and a fellow Chicagoan is showing the way! thanks for good video/help…..
@@ProjectsForAllReviews haha! Didn’t expect such prompt response. I’m retired in Texas (from west side) teaching myself to make sawdust one mistake at a time. Kreg (and Rockler) accept “tuition” and guys like you are my cheat sheets! So, thanks, buddy!
I’m coming in a little late here but I wanted to say what a great video you produced. I have a K5 and I love it. Was considering a 520 or a 720 but not anymore.
I watched videos about the 720(nothing good) so i bought the Masca M2 wasn't happy) so I bought the K5 now i'm happy.The M2 and the K4 have the same clamping system but they only have the 2 holes hard to do 1x2, they do have a 3 hole upgrade but all they hole are centered not fixing the 1x2 issue other wise its good, I like the clamping on the K5
WoW that video just saved me $150.00. I have a K3 it was old, so in 08 I got another one. It is strength forward and dependable accurate. Try gluing vine sandpaper to the clamping face works to stop any movement in the drilling phase. Thanks!
I bought the k4 a couple weeks ago for $90 before tax and today I just bought the 720 pro for $110 after taxes on Amazon, I'll be returning the k4 tomorrow.
That thing around 7:40 is supposed to be a work piece support and stop. Never used it, always put some scrap wood under the long end. Thanks for the review, agree not worth it, having the scale for the bit depth stop on the back, or the bottom depending on the orientation you choose, would be useless if you did screw it down to the bench.
Just got the K4 on Craigslist, brand new $90 with the clamp. I have been using the K5, and it is more..."user friendly" than the K4, but the teeth started wearing out. The K4 seems more robust.
Something that is curios to me is the absence of the K5 Pocket Hole Jig. I bought the K5 and believe it is better than the K4 and has a lot of the benefits of the 720 Pro.
Hello James! You don’t have to be curious! The K4 is mine and I borrowed a friends just purchased 720 Pro. If I’d known someone with the K5 it def would have been in the vid. Truth is this is still a small channel with fairly limited resources and I have to weight every buying decision. If this vid had done amazing I would have followed up with a K4 vs K5 comparison. I’m sure we’ll get to the K5 eventually. Thanks for the comment!!
I would get caught up in the new tool hype all the time. I’m trying to stick to logic these days. “Does my old tool do the job?” Yes. “Is my old tool broken?” No. Then i don’t need it
The dust collection alone on the new 720 makes the upgrade worth it. I own both, the 720 drills much cleaner, bit drives down without chip interference - faster and auto adjust clamping for different thickness material is effortless - only needs very light pressure to tight clamp. I am thoroughly impressed with the 720 pro.
Hello Kerry! I did not use the dust ports on either unit and I’ve never used it on my K4. I cannot confirm or dispute what your saying and that’s a fail on my part. You make a solid point as I would never hook a vacuum to this for my personal work and it could be causing less performance. I’ll be more thorough going forward. Thank you for the comment!
Lol Kregs iterations of their pocket hole jig is like Oreo coming out with new flavors. Like what more could you possibly do? The model that you and I both have is probably the pinnacle. Anything beyond that and it’s just over engineered.
I agree but I haven’t seen the K5 in person. I’ll get around to that one eventually. Either way some day my kids going to inherit that still perfectly working K4 I’m sure. Thanks for watching!
Hello Boyce! 🤣 In defense of the new one it does work perfect. I just really worry about it years down the road. That old K4 will be working long after I’m gone I promise you. Would probably survive if I threw it out a second story window too! Thanks for the comment!!
Thank you very much for sharing your expertise. I very much appreciate your taking the time to compare the Kreg options.
Glad the video helped Steve! Thanks for watching!
Very helpful. Thank you! I'm leaning towards an aluminum model like the Massca. You definitely nudged me further that way. The 720 at my local store didn't seem that sturdy and you confirmed.
Before I saw your face, at the end, I thought this was a video made by Ray Romano!😂❤️
You read my mind, I was looking at the new one in the store the other day trying to decide whether I "needed" to upgrade. You helped make my mind up. I did get an Armor Tool clamp for my K4 awhile back and really like it, it's much easier to adjust switching back and forth between board thicknesses. It auto adjusts to the board thickness by itself, check it out sometime, I think I paid like $30.
Glad I helped! I wasn’t aware anyone made a clamp up grade for the K4! Looks good I’ll have to pick one up. Thanks for the tip!
I have the old K4 and it’s tremendous. Your video proves that I don’t need to move up. I think new users would like the new one fine. Kreg makes great products like the hinge jig and shelf hole jig.
Hello Daniel! Glad I could help! I own the drawer slide jig and drawer hardware jig and a bunch of the clamps. I've been happy with everything I've bought from Kreg. Im sure they are under a lot of pressure to innovate and release new products. Glad I got the K4 when it was out. Thanks for watching!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews , I’m going to have to get that drawer slide jig!
Bought that jig to retrofit 60-70 year old kitchen cabinets for modern slides and new boxes. Jig works perfect and was a huge help. If I did that again though Id build the boxes for under drawer slides instead.
This is the video I needed! Thanks. I don't Own one yet. Going to order the K4. Have some selves I want to build. Thanks again.
Thanks I have K4 and changed the clamp to an armor tool clamp upgrade. It’s a much better clamp than the original. I was wondering if it was worth upgrading to 720 but this review has me rethinking it. Thanks!
I have the K4 and I made a small upgrade to it. I swapped out the work holding clamp for an auto lock clamp and it has been great. No more turning the screw when working with different thickness materials. I got mine from armor tool but I know Rockler sells a similar clamp. I wouldn’t change my K4 for any other pocket hole jig. It’s robust and feels like it will outlast any of the newer versions.
I just bought the k4 secondhand for $20 (along with a $40 dewalt biscuit jointer, a couple bar clamps, and a set of forsner bits), and I already know it'll last me forever. I'm glad I read about the auto adjusting clamp from yours and another comment, I'll definitely be upgrading it to that.
I do have the 720. I would buy it again for what I paid for it. I picked it up at Lowes for 70 bucks. It was clearance.. Seems fine to me. I also put that clamp on you showed first. It worked fine on my bench, it's wood not metal.
This is one of the best comparison videos I have ever seen for any product! I own both of these…. The one thing I always struggle with is why are the holes A, B and C? 😂
Glad you like the vid! Thanks for watching!
Another solid video. Really enjoying your reviews.
I appreciate the comment David! Thank you!!
Very nice job explaining the differences. Enjoying your videos! I have that older one, no dust port though, that would've been nice. I think I would like using it if I mounted it and added some support boards...just getting setup and more serious about stuff, so that'll be happening soon. Keep up the good work!
That old jig is one of the more fun to use tools I own! Love simple tools. Thank you for the support!!
I paid $90 for mine. For some reason it was on sale, while others right next to it were regular price. The cashier double checked the price for me and I ran with it. I really do like it.
Great review! I have the old version and was tempted to buy the new version BUT the older one works just fine. 🤷🏽♂️ been using it for years now.
I know this is two years old but thanks. I have had the k4 so long I almost forgot I had it. I was about to buy tge 720 pro figuring it had to be better. But seems like they just made it look cooler without actually increasing the quality.
You nailed it Kevin! Sometimes it’s cool to find out you already have the best version. Now you can spend the cash where it’ll count. Thanks for watching!
just stumbled on this 720 video…. noticed the red star immediately! … about to dive further into Kreg and a fellow Chicagoan is showing the way! thanks for good video/help…..
Glad the video helped Neighbor! Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews haha! Didn’t expect such prompt response. I’m retired in Texas (from west side) teaching myself to make sawdust one mistake at a time. Kreg (and Rockler) accept “tuition” and guys like you are my cheat sheets! So, thanks, buddy!
I’m coming in a little late here but I wanted to say what a great video you produced. I have a K5 and I love it. Was considering a 520 or a 720 but not anymore.
Glad the vid helped! Thanks for watching!
I watched videos about the 720(nothing good) so i bought the Masca M2 wasn't happy) so I bought the K5 now i'm happy.The M2 and the K4 have the same clamping system but they only have the 2 holes hard to do 1x2, they do have a 3 hole upgrade but all they hole are centered not fixing the 1x2 issue other wise its good, I like the clamping on the K5
Thanks for watching!
I would like to see the whole left by using any pocket hole jig. (Trying to repair the arm of a wooden porch rocking chair..)
Brother sometime older is better, if it wasn't broken, why fix it.?, thanks for showing us. I'm sticking with my old one. Works just find. Be safe.👍
Well said. Thanks for watching!!
My dear sir I also think you did a really good job! Kreg has to offer some kind of refit that 720 is floppy. Enjoyed your video!
Thanks for watching Leroy!
WoW that video just saved me $150.00. I have a K3 it was old, so in 08 I got another one. It is strength forward and dependable accurate. Try gluing vine sandpaper to the clamping face works to stop any movement in the drilling phase. Thanks!
I bought the k4 a couple weeks ago for $90 before tax and today I just bought the 720 pro for $110 after taxes on Amazon, I'll be returning the k4 tomorrow.
That thing around 7:40 is supposed to be a work piece support and stop. Never used it, always put some scrap wood under the long end.
Thanks for the review, agree not worth it, having the scale for the bit depth stop on the back, or the bottom depending on the orientation you choose, would be useless if you did screw it down to the bench.
I've been wondering what the other model offers. I'll stick with my trusty K4.
Can you use any clamp for the k4? Or does it have to be from kreg
Just got the K4 on Craigslist, brand new $90 with the clamp. I have been using the K5, and it is more..."user friendly" than the K4, but the teeth started wearing out. The K4 seems more robust.
My K4 is still going strong! Kreg would have to come out with something pretty amazing to get me to upgrade. Thanks for watching!
Should I upgrade to the Forman vs the old model you reviewed here?
I think I'd rather have the new one that has the handle in back. Looks like a more portable unit. Thanks for the info
Thanks for watching!
Something that is curios to me is the absence of the K5 Pocket Hole Jig. I bought the K5 and believe it is better than the K4 and has a lot of the benefits of the 720 Pro.
Hello James! You don’t have to be curious! The K4 is mine and I borrowed a friends just purchased 720 Pro. If I’d known someone with the K5 it def would have been in the vid. Truth is this is still a small channel with fairly limited resources and I have to weight every buying decision. If this vid had done amazing I would have followed up with a K4 vs K5 comparison. I’m sure we’ll get to the K5 eventually. Thanks for the comment!!
I’m buying a K4 on Amazon. Home Depot no longer sells the K4.
I would get caught up in the new tool hype all the time. I’m trying to stick to logic these days. “Does my old tool do the job?” Yes. “Is my old tool broken?” No.
Then i don’t need it
Thank you.
I'm not complaining i got the 720 pro for $35
If your board is 5/8 can i use
The dust collection alone on the new 720 makes the upgrade worth it. I own both, the 720 drills much cleaner, bit drives down without chip interference - faster and auto adjust clamping for different thickness material is effortless - only needs very light pressure to tight clamp. I am thoroughly impressed with the 720 pro.
Hello Kerry! I did not use the dust ports on either unit and I’ve never used it on my K4. I cannot confirm or dispute what your saying and that’s a fail on my part. You make a solid point as I would never hook a vacuum to this for my personal work and it could be causing less performance. I’ll be more thorough going forward. Thank you for the comment!
Lol Kregs iterations of their pocket hole jig is like Oreo coming out with new flavors. Like what more could you possibly do? The model that you and I both have is probably the pinnacle. Anything beyond that and it’s just over engineered.
I agree but I haven’t seen the K5 in person. I’ll get around to that one eventually. Either way some day my kids going to inherit that still perfectly working K4 I’m sure. Thanks for watching!
Your right...simple is better
Yep! They nailed the K4 model making it tough to follow. Thanks again for watching Michael!!
Dust collection is worth ever penny extra
What a plastic heap of ship! I got cross just looking at the new one? Landfill junk should be banned.
Hello Boyce! 🤣 In defense of the new one it does work perfect. I just really worry about it years down the road. That old K4 will be working long after I’m gone I promise you. Would probably survive if I threw it out a second story window too! Thanks for the comment!!
720 vs foreman
Over priced plastic
Nope. The new one is junk
It’s design definitely doesn’t look like it’ll last a lifetime. Unlike the old simple version. Time will tell. Thanks for watching!
The pro looks like a bad quality chinese toy 😅
Pretty sure that old models going to last me the rest of my life Sergio. That’s fine by me..
@@ProjectsForAllReviewsi think you have good reviews, what's your name? Or nick-name?
Names Mike
@@ProjectsForAllReviews ook Mike 👍