thanks for the link , I watched every bit of it . the Gable lakes are above there and it was an investment of Clark Gable and Shirley Temple during ww2 . Tungsten is a strategic mineral and miners were exempt from the draft.
We made it part way up the Gable Lakes Trail. The snow was deep, if I recall. Here is a link to that video. th-cam.com/video/fIgy0bqNPQg/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching and commenting, Ted!👌😊
We hiked up there a couple of times. It sure is pretty there and one of our favorite places. I'm pretty sure they still have an outfitter down there at the camp.
It is a beautiful area and fun place to hike. We've been meaning to go back as I now know of a way to access the inside of the mine that I didn't know at the time we made this video. The other trail that leaves from the same area is also fun. It's called Gable Lakes. I don't know if you've hiked it or not. We were trying to get to the mine near the lakes last time we were there but got shut down by deep snow. We made a video of that, too. It follows the tram for a while that went all the way up to the Tungstar Mine. The Hanging Valley Mine is up that way but those mines are both accessed from the other direction on the Horton Lakes Trail. That is another beautiful area. Of course we have a Horton Lake video, too. Did you guys make it to Mina? Thanks for the comment!
I recently went on a backpacking trip on the other side of those mountains and got to explore a few cool mines. We camped at Lower Morgan Lake and did a couple day hikes farther up the mountains where we found a really big mine (big enough to drive a truck through) with a bunch of rising and descending tunnels kinda spiraling around a massive chasm. This one was pretty modern and had a lot of artifacts and machinery around, and I believe is connected to the Pine Creek Mine. There was even a break room with soda cans, chicken bones, a first aid kit, and tons of other stuff. We also went into an older mine that was a bit higher up and was filled with some cool ice formations.
That's awesome. It's a beautiful area to hike and camp. I'm guessing you were in a tungsten mine that does connect to Pine Creek. While the big drive-in style mines are not our favorites, they can be fun to see at least once. Thanks for the comment!👍😁
This is a beautiful area to go hiking and we both enjoy it. I'm lucky, like you say, that Julie is up for doing things like hiking and mine exploring. It definitely makes it more fun. Thanks for your support, Ronnie!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring There is a video put out by BCH of a couple who packed the entire PCT prior it being the PCT. About 1959. He shot hours of 8mm up in the Sierra high country before there were a lot of trails.
It is a very beautiful area for sure. I would like to go back to try and find a way in to the mine workings. Exploring the tram ruins was pretty fun. Thanks for watching, Ed!
Hey guys another good one, that resistor bank in there looked serviceable, well maybe, any way, that water pipe coming out of the rock wall, I bet that makes a wonderful ice sculpture every winter.
Hey Mick, this is such a beautiful area to hike in the mine is just a bonus. I know of a way into the ladders that go up into the mine on this one if we ever get back up there. Thanks for watching!
Hi Tony. I heard after we were there of a way into the mine. This was several years ago, and we've never been back to check it out. It is a cool tram setup. Thanks for commenting!👍😎
If there is a mine around the two of you will sniff it out...LOL . Some awesome cliffs up there.. They must have worked those upper workings on ropes of something...WOW.
Julie is a real hunting dog when it comes to mines. Did I just call her a dog...now I'm in trouble, Max. I'm guessing there were ladders there at one time as it is very steep. Thanks for the comment!
We camped in Granite park coming sideways off Italy Pass racing thunder heads after signing the registry. Fun circe dropping past that little perched lake.
I just re-watched this video again. It was hard to hear what the leader of the mule team was saying when you greeted him and asked him what he was doing out there. Do you think they were up there closing up old mines? It looks like those burros were carrying large containers and stuff like that which might’ve had the mine reclamation supplies and equipment inside them (i.e. bags of PUF foam, etc.). I wouldn’t put it past them that that is what they were doing up there. It’s strange that they did not cover up the orange foam with dirt at that one portal you showed. The PUF foam degrades when exposed to sunlight. They normally cover up a foam plug with a lot of dirt because of that reason. I know down here in our local mountains, other explorers found some foamed mine entrances that were left exposed to sunlight. Sometime later, people were able to chip away at the foam and re-open the portal to get access due to the degradation of the foam. Otherwise, that foam remains as hard as concrete when it’s not exposed to sunlight.
These guys were guides out of the Rock Creek pack station that had three people following about a quarter mile behind them on foot. They said they were from the bay area (I don't like that saying) and declined when I asked if they wanted to be in my video. They had been out for a week doing the rich guy backpacking thing(dudes). I forget exactly what the guides said in the video, but,they were friendly when I asked if I could take video of them and they "said sure you can".
Pretty nice hike! That was neat seeing the burro trains coming down the mountain. Exactly how they did it in the olden days! The autumn colors here and there were also nice to see. That ugly, rust-colored foam on the mine portal looked terrible! Such a shame they are allowed to deface the natural landscape like that. Nice shots of that tram! I thought it was interesting how the upper part of that tram was inside that tunnel. Sounded like there was running or falling water in there. I just saw where you showed where the water was coming in.
It was a fun hike. I had no idea there was ever a tram here. Three trams from different canyons all end in a relatively close proximity at the bottom of the mountains. This one from the Brownstone, one from the Tungstar Mine and one from the Pine Creek Mine. The tram from the Tungstar is long with a lot of elevation change. The foam is very ugly, as you mentioned. The pack string was fun to see and a little bonus in my opinion. They had been out for seven days supporting three campers/hikers who had started at South Lake. I'm not sure if the exact route they took or the mileage they covered. The fall colors were at, or just past, the peak bright yellow the aspens turn. Thanks for watching and commenting, Frank.
Great video! I was out there backpacking with my son this fall, and noticed the shafts high up on the wall. Wish I knew how much was up there or we would have made a detour.
There is a lot of stuff left up there at the top of the tram terminal. It's pretty sketchy with huge rock slabs that have sloughed off from above. Once inside where the equipment is it is solid. It's a bit tough to hike there from the main trail, as well. I want to go back to check out the actual mine workings but haven't had the chance yet. Thanks for watching!
At 10 minutes in, that vertical unit on the left is the motor speed and direction control. To the right are resistor banks to reduce the voltage to the motor for different slower speeds. More or less are switched in for different operating speeds. If a DC (direct current) motor, there will be a bank of rectifiers too for converting AC (Alternating Current) to DC. The Alternating Current was likely supplied through power lines on poles to the mine, and long ago removed.
The men that worked those mines were a different sort of man... Not like a lot of the young men today. Imagine the hard work, cold/heat they experienced working there, and getting that equipment up that mountain. Then drilling/slamming hammers into that solid rock for hours and hours on end. It's incredible to say the least.
I think the same thing just about every time we are around an old mining operation. These were some tough men doing dangerous work in remote locations. Just building a road or trail and getting the equipment there must have been daunting. Then comes the actual work...incredible. Thanks for the comment!
Great video! The underground tram station is one of the most impressive things I've ever seen a mine. The condition of the entrance looks significantly worse then it did about 6-7 years ago. Apparently, the road up to this mine was only built to remove equipment. The tram buckets and the bull wheel were somehow brought up on mules!
I was impressed as well. I had no idea there was ever a tram here. The room cut into solid rock is a real fortress and will be there for a long time. There was another tram that ran up to the Tung Star mine starting very near the trail head where we started this hike. We followed the Tung Star tram route last year as far as we could. The towers are still there and the lower base, or terminal, is at the Laws Railroad Museum. I have videos of both the route and base on my channel. Thanks for the comment!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring The Tungstar and Hanging Valley mines are must sees. Equipment is scattered everywhere. I'd like to revisit those mines someday, but I'll probably have to wait until next year. Hiking along the tramway sounds really neat. I'll have to check out those videos. The background to my channel is of the Hanging Valley Mine, but that was long before I had any interest in filming.
@@forgottenmininghistory I haven't been to either mine high up on Mount Tom. I'm guessing you came from the Horton side. I'd like to make the hike up there aometime. We didn't get too far up the tram route. Take the Gable Lakes trail. After the route crosses the creek it goes through some very steep terrain. I don't know how they ever built it. A friend in Bishop says his father found the Tungstar Mine location.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Yep, I went up the Horton Lakes side. It must have been a huge and expensive feat to build that tramway. What amazes me the most is that it's still intact, despite all of the snow the area gets. I bet your friends father had some great stories to tell about the mine.
When one looks up at a mine portal straight up a solid rock wall -- how did they're get that equipment up there? And.... how did you two get up there??
There was access from lower down by the tram bottom. I'm not sure why there was a portal up on that wall. Maybe for ventilation or possibly an ore chute that is now gone. Thanks for commenting, Joe!👍👌
We hiked up there on a trail which was probably a road at one time, Jack. Where we show the guys on horses was the main road(now a foot path) and when we cut off of that we followed an old washed out mining road. It is amazing how the miners got all that heavy machinery up the mountain. I'm sure mules hauled a lot of it. Thanks for the comment!
Nice walk, thanks I needed that. And the colors of the trees, fall colors are so cool. I see you ran into some Democrats on the trail, seem to be everywhere these days. I have a friend who owns the Pomona Food Locker, one of the last neighborhood butcher shops still around. But he has rails like those in the mine, they start from the outside for delivery sides of beef or what ever. Pomona Food Locker 240 Oak Ave. tell them Ren sent you, hmm better not, I still owe on my bill. B^)
This is a beautiful area and the old tram area is fun to poke around in. It took me a second to remember who or what we saw on the trail. I hope you get squared away with the butcher shop. Thanks, Ren!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Well like I said it was a great walk and with the yellow leaves in the background, yeah that was a Kodak moment. I payed my bill with a little art work, with all the art gallery's closed here in Pomona and our art walks are real slow walks these days. So please support your local artiest.And you two have a great turkey, my dog and I will leave the light on.
Wow!!! I was goin to ask if yall got into the mine or not. I bet there is some really good stuff in it. Too bad the good ole BLM and NF destroy history but say they're tryin to preserve history. Tram did look to be somewhat of some newer equipment, and the camp stove. Very remote and steep location but thats always where the good gold is at! Yall be safe out there
Too bad it's sealed up, I would like to see the workings. It does seem like a lot of times the mineral veins are in hard to reach places. We will try and stay safe. Thanks for watching, Lee!
thanks for the link , I watched every bit of it . the Gable lakes are above there and it was an investment of Clark Gable and Shirley Temple during ww2 . Tungsten is a strategic mineral and miners were exempt from the draft.
We made it part way up the Gable Lakes Trail. The snow was deep, if I recall. Here is a link to that video.
th-cam.com/video/fIgy0bqNPQg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and commenting, Ted!👌😊
We hiked up there a couple of times. It sure is pretty there and one of our favorite places. I'm pretty sure they still have an outfitter down there at the camp.
It is a beautiful area and fun place to hike. We've been meaning to go back as I now know of a way to access the inside of the mine that I didn't know at the time we made this video. The other trail that leaves from the same area is also fun. It's called Gable Lakes. I don't know if you've hiked it or not. We were trying to get to the mine near the lakes last time we were there but got shut down by deep snow. We made a video of that, too. It follows the tram for a while that went all the way up to the Tungstar Mine. The Hanging Valley Mine is up that way but those mines are both accessed from the other direction on the Horton Lakes Trail. That is another beautiful area. Of course we have a Horton Lake video, too.
Did you guys make it to Mina? Thanks for the comment!
I recently went on a backpacking trip on the other side of those mountains and got to explore a few cool mines. We camped at Lower Morgan Lake and did a couple day hikes farther up the mountains where we found a really big mine (big enough to drive a truck through) with a bunch of rising and descending tunnels kinda spiraling around a massive chasm. This one was pretty modern and had a lot of artifacts and machinery around, and I believe is connected to the Pine Creek Mine. There was even a break room with soda cans, chicken bones, a first aid kit, and tons of other stuff. We also went into an older mine that was a bit higher up and was filled with some cool ice formations.
That's awesome. It's a beautiful area to hike and camp. I'm guessing you were in a tungsten mine that does connect to Pine Creek. While the big drive-in style mines are not our favorites, they can be fun to see at least once. Thanks for the comment!👍😁
Nice that your wife has as much interest in your hobby to go with you so she can enjoy the beautiful sites you go exploring
This is a beautiful area to go hiking and we both enjoy it. I'm lucky, like you say, that Julie is up for doing things like hiking and mine exploring. It definitely makes it more fun. Thanks for your support, Ronnie!
Wow, very cool. First time I ever saw a tram terminal inside of a mountain.
Hi Ron. Same for me. That room is carved right out of the mountain. Thanks for the comment!😁
That is a beautiful hiking place to go as well to go camping and peaceful and quiet
Yes, it is a very beautiful place. Thanks for the comment, Michael.
Wow...that tram room, nice find!
Thank you, David. It was fun poking around that tram room. Lots of cool stuff there.
Nice looking small pack strings. Beautiful place.
I liked seeing the pack strings, too. There were three people walking about a quarter mile behind the the strings. Thanks for the comment, Olive
@@TomandJulieMineExploring There is a video put out by BCH of a couple who packed the entire PCT prior it being the PCT. About 1959. He shot hours of 8mm up in the Sierra high country before there were a lot of trails.
That was fun. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
Neat old place to visit, really cool! Thanks for taking us along!
Thanks for coming along, Ben. Hope all is well in Mn.
Thanks for sharing.. You guys have some interesting places to explore.. Hope your evening is going well.. Full View Like 23
Thanks for taking us along on your adventure. Beautiful fall colors and bonus waterfalls .
It is a beautiful time of year here when the fall colors are out. Thanks for watching and commenting, Johnny!
Thank you for taking us along on this beautiful hike and exploring the mine. Its so interesting to see what was done so many years ago
Ed
It is a very beautiful area for sure. I would like to go back to try and find a way in to the mine workings. Exploring the tram ruins was pretty fun. Thanks for watching, Ed!
Hey guys another good one, that resistor bank in there looked serviceable, well maybe, any way, that water pipe coming out of the rock wall, I bet that makes a wonderful ice sculpture every winter.
Hey Mick, this is such a beautiful area to hike in the mine is just a bonus. I know of a way into the ladders that go up into the mine on this one if we ever get back up there. Thanks for watching!
Hi Tom and Julie . That was an amazing setup that you both found its a pity that you couldn't get into the mine itself .
Hi Tony. I heard after we were there of a way into the mine. This was several years ago, and we've never been back to check it out. It is a cool tram setup. Thanks for commenting!👍😎
I love this video it's so cool
Thanks, Steven! Glad that you enjoyed it.
If there is a mine around the two of you will sniff it out...LOL . Some awesome cliffs up there.. They must have worked those upper workings on ropes of something...WOW.
Julie is a real hunting dog when it comes to mines. Did I just call her a dog...now I'm in trouble, Max. I'm guessing there were ladders there at one time as it is very steep. Thanks for the comment!
Yep you are in trouble now.. A mine hunter yes, a dog no! The places they have mines is just amazing. That hike was quite majestic.
We camped in Granite park coming sideways off Italy Pass racing thunder heads after signing the registry. Fun circe dropping past that little perched lake.
@@ResortDog That sounds like a fun trip. It's a beautiful area.
I just re-watched this video again. It was hard to hear what the leader of the mule team was saying when you greeted him and asked him what he was doing out there. Do you think they were up there closing up old mines? It looks like those burros were carrying large containers and stuff like that which might’ve had the mine reclamation supplies and equipment inside them (i.e. bags of PUF foam, etc.). I wouldn’t put it past them that that is what they were doing up there. It’s strange that they did not cover up the orange foam with dirt at that one portal you showed. The PUF foam degrades when exposed to sunlight. They normally cover up a foam plug with a lot of dirt because of that reason. I know down here in our local mountains, other explorers found some foamed mine entrances that were left exposed to sunlight. Sometime later, people were able to chip away at the foam and re-open the portal to get access due to the degradation of the foam. Otherwise, that foam remains as hard as concrete when it’s not exposed to sunlight.
These guys were guides out of the Rock Creek pack station that had three people following about a quarter mile behind them on foot. They said they were from the bay area (I don't like that saying) and declined when I asked if they wanted to be in my video. They had been out for a week doing the rich guy backpacking thing(dudes). I forget exactly what the guides said in the video, but,they were friendly when I asked if I could take video of them and they "said sure you can".
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Oh, OK.
Pretty nice hike! That was neat seeing the burro trains coming down the mountain. Exactly how they did it in the olden days! The autumn colors here and there were also nice to see. That ugly, rust-colored foam on the mine portal looked terrible! Such a shame they are allowed to deface the natural landscape like that. Nice shots of that tram! I thought it was interesting how the upper part of that tram was inside that tunnel. Sounded like there was running or falling water in there. I just saw where you showed where the water was coming in.
It was a fun hike. I had no idea there was ever a tram here. Three trams from different canyons all end in a relatively close proximity at the bottom of the mountains. This one from the Brownstone, one from the Tungstar Mine and one from the Pine Creek Mine. The tram from the Tungstar is long with a lot of elevation change. The foam is very ugly, as you mentioned. The pack string was fun to see and a little bonus in my opinion. They had been out for seven days supporting three campers/hikers who had started at South Lake. I'm not sure if the exact route they took or the mileage they covered. The fall colors were at, or just past, the peak bright yellow the aspens turn. Thanks for watching and commenting, Frank.
That's a pretty cool place
It is, Snooch. I was surprised to see it. Thanks for watching!
Great video! I was out there backpacking with my son this fall, and noticed the shafts high up on the wall. Wish I knew how much was up there or we would have made a detour.
There is a lot of stuff left up there at the top of the tram terminal. It's pretty sketchy with huge rock slabs that have sloughed off from above. Once inside where the equipment is it is solid. It's a bit tough to hike there from the main trail, as well. I want to go back to check out the actual mine workings but haven't had the chance yet. Thanks for watching!
At 10 minutes in, that vertical unit on the left is the motor speed and direction control. To the right are resistor banks to reduce the voltage to the motor for different slower speeds. More or less are switched in for different operating speeds. If a DC (direct current) motor, there will be a bank of rectifiers too for converting AC (Alternating Current) to DC. The Alternating Current was likely supplied through power lines on poles to the mine, and long ago removed.
Thanks for your input and the information, Charley. That all sounds inborder.
The men that worked those mines were a different sort of man... Not like a lot of the young men today. Imagine the hard work, cold/heat they experienced working there, and getting that equipment up that mountain. Then drilling/slamming hammers into that solid rock for hours and hours on end. It's incredible to say the least.
I think the same thing just about every time we are around an old mining operation. These were some tough men doing dangerous work in remote locations. Just building a road or trail and getting the equipment there must have been daunting. Then comes the actual work...incredible. Thanks for the comment!
Great video! The underground tram station is one of the most impressive things I've ever seen a mine. The condition of the entrance looks significantly worse then it did about 6-7 years ago. Apparently, the road up to this mine was only built to remove equipment. The tram buckets and the bull wheel were somehow brought up on mules!
I was impressed as well. I had no idea there was ever a tram here. The room cut into solid rock is a real fortress and will be there for a long time. There was another tram that ran up to the Tung Star mine starting very near the trail head where we started this hike. We followed the Tung Star tram route last year as far as we could. The towers are still there and the lower base, or terminal, is at the Laws Railroad Museum. I have videos of both the route and base on my channel. Thanks for the comment!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring The Tungstar and Hanging Valley mines are must sees. Equipment is scattered everywhere. I'd like to revisit those mines someday, but I'll probably have to wait until next year. Hiking along the tramway sounds really neat. I'll have to check out those videos. The background to my channel is of the Hanging Valley Mine, but that was long before I had any interest in filming.
@@forgottenmininghistory I haven't been to either mine high up on Mount Tom. I'm guessing you came from the Horton side. I'd like to make the hike up there aometime. We didn't get too far up the tram route. Take the Gable Lakes trail. After the route crosses the creek it goes through some very steep terrain. I don't know how they ever built it. A friend in Bishop says his father found the Tungstar Mine location.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Yep, I went up the Horton Lakes side. It must have been a huge and expensive feat to build that tramway. What amazes me the most is that it's still intact, despite all of the snow the area gets. I bet your friends father had some great stories to tell about the mine.
When one looks up at a mine portal straight up a solid rock wall -- how did they're get that equipment up there? And.... how did you two get up there??
There was access from lower down by the tram bottom. I'm not sure why there was a portal up on that wall. Maybe for ventilation or possibly an ore chute that is now gone. Thanks for commenting, Joe!👍👌
how did you and those miners get up there?you did not show a path and you did not fly,i was wondering
how they got all that stuff up there.
We hiked up there on a trail which was probably a road at one time, Jack. Where we show the guys on horses was the main road(now a foot path) and when we cut off of that we followed an old washed out mining road. It is amazing how the miners got all that heavy machinery up the mountain. I'm sure mules hauled a lot of it. Thanks for the comment!
Nice walk, thanks I needed that. And the colors of the trees, fall colors are so cool. I see you ran into some Democrats on the trail, seem to be everywhere these days. I have a friend who owns the Pomona Food Locker, one of the last neighborhood butcher shops still around. But he has rails like those in the mine, they start from the outside for delivery sides of beef or what ever. Pomona Food Locker 240 Oak Ave. tell them Ren sent you, hmm better not, I still owe on my bill. B^)
This is a beautiful area and the old tram area is fun to poke around in. It took me a second to remember who or what we saw on the trail. I hope you get squared away with the butcher shop. Thanks, Ren!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Well like I said it was a great walk and with the yellow leaves in the background, yeah that was a Kodak moment. I payed my bill with a little art work, with all the art gallery's closed here in Pomona and our art walks are real slow walks these days. So please support your local artiest.And you two have a great turkey, my dog and I will leave the light on.
@@RENunez-sd6ov Right on, Ren. Same to you and your dog.
@@RENunez-sd6ovDemocrats are easy to spot in the wild. They're the ones picking up trash and doing trail maintenance. Enjoy!
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I love it i miss it butt idaho mantna mines all overcm
Hi Charles. Thanks for watching!👍👍
Wow!!! I was goin to ask if yall got into the mine or not. I bet there is some really good stuff in it. Too bad the good ole BLM and NF destroy history but say they're tryin to preserve history. Tram did look to be somewhat of some newer equipment, and the camp stove. Very remote and steep location but thats always where the good gold is at! Yall be safe out there
Too bad it's sealed up, I would like to see the workings. It does seem like a lot of times the mineral veins are in hard to reach places. We will try and stay safe. Thanks for watching, Lee!