Wow! 4:1 ratio is crazy. Maybe the color combo she wants is popular or it wasn’t available that’s why it took so long. She should have space out her spending or be a little flexible with her wishlists. In the long run they want you to be their long time customer, not just a K or B and you’ll be gone. My wishlist in order was: b25, k25, Mini K. I got them in reverse order bc they know my first choice was B25. It was a good strategy on their part to keep me going until I get to my first choice. Best of luck ladies, this game is exhausting.
I think Hermes is right now on high cloud, people now are flocking to the store and they want to give them desirable bags easily to hook them into the game. And they want to see how much they can push their customers to make them increase their pre spending so they can generate more profit. It's a company, it's always about making more money.
Sounds like to me that she got two offers with that spend if they allowed her to do a special order even though it hasn’t come in that is still an offer and a very special one so she got two for the pre-spend which isn’t so bad then 🤷♀️in Hermes world anyways
Hi Oxana, happy Saturday!! I have to ask: is this Hermes’ overall policy or is it the direction of the boutique managers? I ask because in Paris there doesn’t seem to be this issue otherwise tourists wouldn’t be able to get quota bags so easily. In addition to that point, I think if we had more than one boutique in Toronto, the Hermes game would change. I think we need a boutique at Yorkdale Mall to change things up a bit. Bloor street has too many customers and not enough inventory and the SAs turn over frequently. If I want something I just go in and get served by whoever is available. I got my B35 in Paris and will get a B30 from there as well. I don’t have time for the games that people are playing. I love Hermes but not enough for that kind of expenditure!
Hi Donna, I am not sure, but I speculate that it’s with approval of the local manager. Local boutique doesn’t get enough inventory and they try to milk out customers as much as possible before they offer any quota bag🫶🏻 P.S. so happy for you that you got your bags from Paris. I got my B25 from Paris as well
💯 agree! I stopped shopping 🛍️ at my local boutique. If my SA doesn’t offer my any quota bags, she can’t have my commissions. Are you in US, Canada or Europe?!🫶🏻🤗
Thanks Oxana. I gave up on my local Toronto boutique. Completely I have purchased 2 bags (Birkin 30 and Picotin 18 gold in gold) thru the Naples Florida boutique and won’t even buy a lipstick at the Toronto store! I met a really great SA in the Naples store and I will be loyal and shop there only going forward. Toronto is the absolute worst service that’s just dripping with sarcasm in their service.
Me too, I stopped shopping 🛍️ at local for more than a year. But this January I purchased a couple of items from Hermès website. I figured if my SA doesn’t want to offer me a quota bag, I don’t offer my communication. I believe it’s a fare game!
Honestly, that kind of spending is ludicrous, especially if it was for the sole purpose to be offered a bag - And with if that time frame, even if it includes gifts for family. Happy for her anyway. I believe she should consider changing SA or store. Also, I do not believe that we are “forced” so to speak to spend the money we choose to spend, and this applies for absolutely everything in life.
Thank you for your feedback. Sometimes it’s hard to change an SA. For example, we have just one boutique in Toronto, so changing SA will be hard and awkward to shop with new SA with presence of old one in the store. Our boutique is small, so it’s almost impossible to miss your SA, unless someone shop when old SA has her days off. But, to me it’s a lot of inconvenience
I heard ppl said they spent 3-4/1 nowadays! I have to spend 2/1 for k25 this time 🫣😬! Before I only stay like 1/5/1 😅 that really crazy and out of control 😢
I guess buying anything helps to get quota bag eventually. Question is how much to spend. Everybody has a different story. This special Lady spent 1:3.8, so I rounded up to 1:4
Hi Oxana, just my speculations. Can’t it be due to low stock and high demand that people are waiting for so long to get their bag? Maybe it has nothing to do with spendings? At least in Europe people get on waiting lists and get their bags after some time without buying much. My S.A. told me that it can take up to 2 years to get a Kelly or Birkin and it depends what color and leather you have “wished”.
Guys, Hermès don't just want the money. They want commited/loyal consummers, long-time consummers that love their brand, not just their bags. So this game is a way to get ride of the people that just want a Birkin and keep their loyal costumers that love the brand as a whole. Plus, if they keep selling their bags to everyone, they will lack in production and the brand will decrease quality, like Chanel.
This is a such a BS. Most of people love things from different brands. Shoes can be from one brand, RTW from another, jewelry, make up, bags etc... from some others.. Don't justify this scumbag tactics from Hermes. Thanks god I find their bags to be ugly and wouldn't wear one even if it was given to me for free.
It was My second time buying a scarf, I got offered a birkin 35 in etoupe color by my SA, and that was just in February. But since I didn’t like the color I said no to it. So I’m just waiting for a quota bag, a couple months later I got an offer for a della bag. So I guess it truly depends on your local boutique and SA on my end 🫶🏻
Some people are normalizing this H 'Journey', even calling it slow luxury and is 'better' than other lux house that do a lot of collection. Talking about distorted reasoning. If you wanna do the game you're already a sucker to whatever rules they wanna put in their game.
No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. It is your choice as an adult. The whole they want long term customer thing is non sense money is money they simply like having the power to have people beg for a bag.
This pre-spending is ridiculous!!! She'd rather went to a reputable re-seller and buy the exact bag with right specs. I guess its a list from Asia where the 'rules' are crazy!!! I've been shopping there since 2015 and still haven't been offered my Quota bag and thinking of quitting and saving my money to shop in EU cause I won't beg for a bag ......
I recently purchased my Constance 1-24 in Mauve Sylvestre with rose gold hardware through resellers. I got it in brand new condition full set and I paid $5,000 premium (Can). It’s about $3,500 US. No games and I got exactly what I want. 🫶🏻 But, she might want to have boutique experience
@@OxanaLV I know, I love your bag 🥰 An indeed in the end if you spend that amount of money it's all about the lux exp which is also lacking nowadays......Have a great week ahead Oxana 💕
That is so sad that Hermes’s shadow market strategy is trapped people spending more and more to get a quota bag. I think it is really not worth for us to do it. If money is not issues then it is different story. Right now pre loved market price of quota bags are dropping a lot due to recession. Maybe it is time to go to preloved market to get them? Hermes SA is getting greedy, because a lot of people like to feed them I guess 😂 Great topic💕
Thank you 🙏 Irene. Hermès is out of control. I recently purchased Constance 1-24 in brand new condition on resellers market and paid about $5,000 above retail price. No game played and I choose colour and leather that I wanted.🫶🏻
@@OxanaLV : yea, I saw your Constance bag, it is very pretty. You might need to spend over 10k pre spending in retail in order you to get it but could not guarantee the color. What a crazy thing now for hermes 😅
Hello, I am not sure who is Haya, but I am glad that she has such a loyal followers. If you listen at the begging of the video I explained how this idea started. 🫶🏻
I choose not to play but have purchased things I want in store. I’ve had an absolutely lovely experiences. The staff was awesome. I’ve had repairs done on vintage bags and the work was superb. Bag looked like it was made yesterday and not in 1960. The craftsmanship and wear on all of their bags is amazing . I just don’t feel that people need to boost their bottom line by purchasing things that they don’t want for 1 item. It’s like bait and switch. It feels so sketchy and not appropriate. Plus I’m at an age where if I want something I just get it by any means necessary. Games are for kids and I’m not a kid.
It's very refreshing to see some youtuber actually talk about the "Hermes game" and their required pre spending.
Thank you 🙏 Sandra 🤗
Wow! 4:1 ratio is crazy. Maybe the color combo she wants is popular or it wasn’t available that’s why it took so long. She should have space out her spending or be a little flexible with her wishlists. In the long run they want you to be their long time customer, not just a K or B and you’ll be gone. My wishlist in order was: b25, k25, Mini K. I got them in reverse order bc they know my first choice was B25. It was a good strategy on their part to keep me going until I get to my first choice. Best of luck ladies, this game is exhausting.
Thank you 😊 so much for sharing and your feedback. I truly appreciate it 🫶🏻
I think Hermes is right now on high cloud, people now are flocking to the store and they want to give them desirable bags easily to hook them into the game. And they want to see how much they can push their customers to make them increase their pre spending so they can generate more profit. It's a company, it's always about making more money.
Thank you for your feedback Sandra. Yes, rich 🤑 will get richer 🤑
Sounds like to me that she got two offers with that spend if they allowed her to do a special order even though it hasn’t come in that is still an offer and a very special one so she got two for the pre-spend which isn’t so bad then 🤷♀️in Hermes world anyways
Yes, that’s right. SO is not a guarantee though. I remember it used to be 1:1 ratio, but time is changed so did the Hermès game 🫶🏻
@@OxanaLV yes it’s changing with a lot more demand I’m sure. It depends on so many things I think. Hard to know 🤷♀️
That should have been 4 offers minimum or 2/3 exotics! Ill keep what I have and wait until the bubble is over ! LOL
Yes, you’re right. It used to be 1:1 ratio, but nowadays ratio is out of control. 🥹
Oxana, thank you very much for sharing. I totally agree with you regarding Hermes game, good to know someone shares your point of view.
Thanks for sharing!!🫶🏻
Hi Oxana, happy Saturday!! I have to ask: is this Hermes’ overall policy or is it the direction of the boutique managers? I ask because in Paris there doesn’t seem to be this issue otherwise tourists wouldn’t be able to get quota bags so easily. In addition to that point, I think if we had more than one boutique in Toronto, the Hermes game would change. I think we need a boutique at Yorkdale Mall to change things up a bit. Bloor street has too many customers and not enough inventory and the SAs turn over frequently. If I want something I just go in and get served by whoever is available. I got my B35 in Paris and will get a B30 from there as well. I don’t have time for the games that people are playing. I love Hermes but not enough for that kind of expenditure!
Hi Donna,
I am not sure, but I speculate that it’s with approval of the local manager. Local boutique doesn’t get enough inventory and they try to milk out customers as much as possible before they offer any quota bag🫶🏻
P.S. so happy for you that you got your bags from Paris. I got my B25 from Paris as well
I totally agree with you, Oxana. I spent 2:1 already and no offers. So, I gave up and I stopped shopping many months ago. Just tired of it honestly.
💯 agree! I stopped shopping 🛍️ at my local boutique. If my SA doesn’t offer my any quota bags, she can’t have my commissions. Are you in US, Canada or Europe?!🫶🏻🤗
I’m in the US. NY area.
Thanks Oxana. I gave up on my local Toronto boutique. Completely
I have purchased 2 bags (Birkin 30 and Picotin 18 gold in gold) thru the Naples Florida boutique and won’t even buy a lipstick at the
Toronto store! I met a really great SA in the Naples store and I will be loyal and shop there only going forward. Toronto is the absolute worst service that’s just dripping with sarcasm in their service.
Maybe we have the same SA LOL. I’m from Naples 👋🏻
Hey Vanessa. I’m living half the year in Naples and half in Toronto
Thanks for reaching out!
Me too, I stopped shopping 🛍️ at local for more than a year. But this January I purchased a couple of items from Hermès website. I figured if my SA doesn’t want to offer me a quota bag, I don’t offer my communication. I believe it’s a fare game!
Hi there! Thanks for making the video. Is it possible to share at least what country this bait list is from?
I can’t release this info, as per request. But I can tell that’s on North American continent
Honestly, that kind of spending is ludicrous, especially if it was for the sole purpose to be offered a bag - And with if that time frame, even if it includes gifts for family. Happy for her anyway. I believe she should consider changing SA or store. Also, I do not believe that we are “forced” so to speak to spend the money we choose to spend, and this applies for absolutely everything in life.
Thank you for your feedback. Sometimes it’s hard to change an SA. For example, we have just one boutique in Toronto, so changing SA will be hard and awkward to shop with new SA with presence of old one in the store. Our boutique is small, so it’s almost impossible to miss your SA, unless someone shop when old SA has her days off. But, to me it’s a lot of inconvenience
Thank you so much . I am on the wishlist for a Birkin 30 now I.Dont know how long it will take before i get it .🙏🙏
I wish you luck 🤞🏻. Hopefully you will get your perfect quota bag offer very soon 🫶🏻
I heard ppl said they spent 3-4/1 nowadays! I have to spend 2/1 for k25 this time 🫣😬! Before I only stay like 1/5/1 😅 that really crazy and out of control 😢
Can I ask how I can approach my SA about being put on a wishlist? Thank you.
I love luxury handbags and own many; however, I refuse to play the “Journey” game with Hermes.
I can totally understand your reasoning. Myself is extremely disappointed with Hermès lately 🥹
I didn’t understand the ratio when you say one to one or 4 to one can you please explain ? Also does buying shoes helps in purchasing your dream bag ?
I guess buying anything helps to get quota bag eventually. Question is how much to spend. Everybody has a different story. This special Lady spent 1:3.8, so I rounded up to 1:4
@@OxanaLV I bought 6 pairs of shoes and a scarf and waiting for lindy bag
@@daniaalbassam561 good luck. Hopefully you will get your dream bag soon 🤞🏻
Thank you so much Oxana❤
Thank you 🙏 Maria 🫶🏻
Hi Oxana, just my speculations. Can’t it be due to low stock and high demand that people are waiting for so long to get their bag? Maybe it has nothing to do with spendings? At least in Europe people get on waiting lists and get their bags after some time without buying much. My S.A. told me that it can take up to 2 years to get a Kelly or Birkin and it depends what color and leather you have “wished”.
Yes, it’s tough at Hermès nowadays. I am so glad I started my H journey years ago 🫶🏻
Guys, Hermès don't just want the money. They want commited/loyal consummers, long-time consummers that love their brand, not just their bags.
So this game is a way to get ride of the people that just want a Birkin and keep their loyal costumers that love the brand as a whole.
Plus, if they keep selling their bags to everyone, they will lack in production and the brand will decrease quality, like Chanel.
Thank you 🙏 for sharing and your feedback. I truly appreciate it 🫶🏻
This is a such a BS. Most of people love things from different brands. Shoes can be from one brand, RTW from another, jewelry, make up, bags etc... from some others.. Don't justify this scumbag tactics from Hermes. Thanks god I find their bags to be ugly and wouldn't wear one even if it was given to me for free.
This is insane for a Kelly 25. How’s the preforming ratio for a Birkin 30 Togo in a neutral color?
It’s really hard to get any quota offer nowadays. Even non-quota is hard to get 🤯
My question is… was she offered other quotas and declined them? Depending on wishlist item in may take over a year.
Yes, that’s possible 🫶🏻
It was My second time buying a scarf, I got offered a birkin 35 in etoupe color by my SA, and that was just in February. But since I didn’t like the color I said no to it. So I’m just waiting for a quota bag, a couple months later I got an offer for a della bag. So I guess it truly depends on your local boutique and SA on my end 🫶🏻
Yes, totally agree. It’s all up to SA. I am happy for you. It looks like your SA is very descent person 🫶🏻
Some people are normalizing this H 'Journey', even calling it slow luxury and is 'better' than other lux house that do a lot of collection. Talking about distorted reasoning. If you wanna do the game you're already a sucker to whatever rules they wanna put in their game.
Thank you 🙏 for your feedback. I truly appreciate it 🤗🫶🏻
Inthe Amsterdam Boutique
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No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. It is your choice as an adult. The whole they want long term customer thing is non sense money is money they simply like
having the power to have people beg for a bag.
Yes, you’re right. Totally our choice 🫶🏻
No one can be forced ..you are choosing to play the game and no point in complaining about it.
Thank you 🙏 for your feedback. I really appreciate it 🫶🏻
This pre-spending is ridiculous!!! She'd rather went to a reputable re-seller and buy the exact bag with right specs. I guess its a list from Asia where the 'rules' are crazy!!! I've been shopping there since 2015 and still haven't been offered my Quota bag and thinking of quitting and saving my money to shop in EU cause I won't beg for a bag ......
I recently purchased my Constance 1-24 in Mauve Sylvestre with rose gold hardware through resellers. I got it in brand new condition full set and I paid $5,000 premium (Can). It’s about $3,500 US. No games and I got exactly what I want. 🫶🏻 But, she might want to have boutique experience
@@OxanaLV I know, I love your bag 🥰
An indeed in the end if you spend that amount of money it's all about the lux exp which is also lacking nowadays......Have a great week ahead Oxana 💕
Thank you 🫶🏻🤗
That is so sad that Hermes’s shadow market strategy is trapped people spending more and more to get a quota bag. I think it is really not worth for us to do it. If money is not issues then it is different story. Right now pre loved market price of quota bags are dropping a lot due to recession. Maybe it is time to go to preloved market to get them? Hermes SA is getting greedy, because a lot of people like to feed them I guess 😂 Great topic💕
Thank you 🙏 Irene. Hermès is out of control. I recently purchased Constance 1-24 in brand new condition on resellers market and paid about $5,000 above retail price. No game played and I choose colour and leather that I wanted.🫶🏻
P.S. it’s $5,000 Can; about $,3500 US only
@@OxanaLV : yea, I saw your Constance bag, it is very pretty. You might need to spend over 10k pre spending in retail in order you to get it but could not guarantee the color. What a crazy thing now for hermes 😅
Seems like you’ve taken Haya Glamazon’s idea. Not cool
Or at the very least you should give her credit
Hello,
I am not sure who is Haya, but I am glad that she has such a loyal followers. If you listen at the begging of the video I explained how this idea started. 🫶🏻
I wondered if the video was inspired by the birkin bait series too, I hadn't seen anyone but Haya Glamazon do something like this before.
@@chiara.ffederico I'm so glad someone else caught that
No one can be forced ..you are choosing to play the game and no point in complaining about it.
I choose not to play but have purchased things I want in store. I’ve had an absolutely lovely experiences. The staff was awesome. I’ve had repairs done on vintage bags and the work was superb. Bag looked like it was made yesterday and not in 1960. The craftsmanship and wear on all of their bags is amazing . I just don’t feel that people need to boost their bottom line by purchasing things that they don’t want for 1 item. It’s like bait and switch. It feels so sketchy and not appropriate. Plus I’m at an age where if I want something I just get it by any means necessary. Games are for kids and I’m not a kid.
OKAY!