I’ve serviced and repaired carp reels for 15+ years. I’ve never taken a match reel apart but if carp reels are anything to go by then there not much difference to the guts of them. Only noticeable difference is that a reel from 10-15yrs ago was built so much better.
I remember going into my local shop and wind testing a few of these top end reels…. Daiwa Tournament, TDR’s and TDM’s. In my opinion I felt the TDR was the best solely on that test and also cosmetically. A little out of my price range so I went for the TDM and it’s just been brilliant. I do think the Ninja’s are very nice for its price range but them top spec reels are different gravy. I have to agree that I’d sooner have a top spec reel than rod as the reel is like the engine of a car.
Same here! Still own a heap of shimano and my own custom rods but daiwa rods with shimano reels for me goes back to the 90s using a stp short stroker and tld
i bought a shimano super Aero GTM 3000 in 1998 as a rod and reel combo still use both to this day and the reel looks brand new and functions as new they made some quality reels in that era shimano
I will still stick with my trusty Mitchell match reel which is now over 50 years old and still going strong. I think some fishing gear is to catch the fisherman and not the fish .
I have the ninja 3012a and 4000c and I absolutely love both of them, Landed a 20lb carp last week with the 3012 reel and ninja waggler rod and they didn't let me down for a second
I have Shimano match reels that are 25 years old, in fact I used one today. Any half decent match reel should give years of service if treated properly. Carp reels are a different matter, as are pike and beach casting reels. Casting out and winding in 4 oz leads or dead baits on big pits puts huge strain on components and gearing.
Could you compare the ninjas to the new daiwa matchman reel at 50 quid and then maybe compare both of them to the shimano sahara fj reels ?? Surely they are the best reels for around 50 quid
I disagree with you regarding how long these reels will last. I fish at least once a week and more often during the summer months. I have a Mitchell Match that is at least 35 years old and still going strong.
Hi guys thanks for doing such an interesting video. Ive got a few cadence rods and reels and about 3 years ago i got a couple of cadence cs10 3000 reels which are around £120 and i do like them but with money being so type ive always liked the look and peoples option's of the ninga reels. So if possible if using an 11ft waggler for general float fishing which size and specific cheaer diawa reel would you recommend. Plus if using a 10ft max feeder rod which reel would you recommend for that? Brilliant video again much appreciated.
The drag is much better on the ninja LT, for an extra couple of quid, that has the quick drag system similar to the more expensive ones, be interesting to compare that
If gearing is the only difference, we're talking 5 times the cost. Go for one at around £100. Plenty of good reels in that range that will last over 5yrs
Its hard to purchase a "bad" reel, especially from an angling shop with pro tests/opinions/advice, id say its materials used. Stainless steel/carbon etc...massively contributing to weight, balance and life span as explained. Great vid, would like to see more vids like this across tackle 👍
I have managed it! I bought a very cheap Coonah reel that is still working well after being mistreated for several years but then bought a couple of slightly more expensive Asian reels ( can't remember the name..sugiyama or something like that and they died after a couple of weeks. Needless to say, I wont be going cheap again!
Tom........Errrr I'd hope a £300 reel {Tournament} lasts more than 5 years lol. I've had a Ninja getting on for 5 years now and I've had no problems other than line getting behind the spool when windy.
I think how you play a fish and the rod is more important than the reel. just taking fishing up again , not been for about 25 years. Had 20lb + carp on cheap Shakespere reels back then no problem. Fishing now is carp mad in general and got far to technical and camo crazy , fish have poor eyesight and don't care what you're using , bait presentation is the important bit. Nice gear is nice to have but not the key to better fishing just a personal choice coupled to your budget.
I use Shimano Aero power for feeder fishing had them over 20 years used a lot in Ireland never let me down,never serviced and still going strong,you may look good on the bank but you’ll not catch any more fish,tackle just catches anglers
Lol, maybe you guys should actually have an understanding of what your talking about before you make claims and statements as fact. It's definitely a bad look. BTW, the only thing magseal does on that reel is protect the clutch and possibly the line roller bearing. No ferrofluid in the gears, why would you add metal dust to gear lube? Please take a look at some part numbers and you'll have a better understanding of the real differences between Daiwa's 100/300/500 dollar models.
Sad part is that even if you decide to splurge on Daiwa reels you can never get the best in all aspects in one reel. The Tournament are heavy like a pig, the N'ZON PLUS LT have a crappy internal design and lack the grease from the factory, the DAIWA N ZON LT looks and feels like knockoff of a Chinese knockoff and the Ninja is just a reel for the folks that want a product with the label Daiwa imprinted on it. On top of that all my Daiwa reels and everyone else's I know that uses one have the "Daiwa whine" fresh out of the box.
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I’ve serviced and repaired carp reels for 15+ years. I’ve never taken a match reel apart but if carp reels are anything to go by then there not much difference to the guts of them. Only noticeable difference is that a reel from 10-15yrs ago was built so much better.
I have had my mitchell match reels for over 40 years and still perform like the did when I first bought them.
i used a lot of TDR reels in carp bashing puddles not one has lasted that long , I'm now using the £50 quid Nija and it's holding up well
I remember going into my local shop and wind testing a few of these top end reels…. Daiwa Tournament, TDR’s and TDM’s. In my opinion I felt the TDR was the best solely on that test and also cosmetically. A little out of my price range so I went for the TDM and it’s just been brilliant. I do think the Ninja’s are very nice for its price range but them top spec reels are different gravy. I have to agree that I’d sooner have a top spec reel than rod as the reel is like the engine of a car.
The Tackle Tarts will always go for the more expensive pieces of gear regardless.
You can still be a tackle tart and buy a smart 60 quid reel.
For me personally. Diawa for rods and poles and Shimano for reels. That combo has never let me down.
Same here! Still own a heap of shimano and my own custom rods but daiwa rods with shimano reels for me goes back to the 90s using a stp short stroker and tld
I would have said the same until I tried a ninja. Amazingly smooth for the money, amazing line lay. I was a shimano man until that point
I would tend to agree but then TDR are so good
Daiwa and Shimano reels are basically the same thing in terms of quality, the only difference is the feeling when using them.
Got three shimano gtb's over 15 years old still work the same as they did day one.
i bought a shimano super Aero GTM 3000 in 1998 as a rod and reel combo still use both to this day and the reel looks brand new and functions as new they made some quality reels in that era shimano
Shimano was tops back in the day areo match 3 gtm
I will still stick with my trusty Mitchell match reel which is now over 50 years old and still going strong. I think some fishing gear is to catch the fisherman and not the fish .
Tell me that after using a vanford on a zodias
@@needmoreboost6369 or a stella on an adrena ;)
I have the ninja 3012a and 4000c and I absolutely love both of them,
Landed a 20lb carp last week with the 3012 reel and ninja waggler rod and they didn't let me down for a second
Great kit.
I have Shimano match reels that are 25 years old, in fact I used one today. Any half decent match reel should give years of service if treated properly. Carp reels are a different matter, as are pike and beach casting reels. Casting out and winding in 4 oz leads or dead baits on big pits puts huge strain on components and gearing.
I had daiwa rod and reels. Feeder rods need guides change (they scruff line quick). The cheaper feeder reel are best buy on the market today.
Could you compare the ninjas to the new daiwa matchman reel at 50 quid and then maybe compare both of them to the shimano sahara fj reels ?? Surely they are the best reels for around 50 quid
Leave it with us.
Excellent video well described full of information to help us make an informed decision
I have a diawa Ninja LT for the last 3 years brilliant reels and ive just bought another one, even though the first one is still going strong
I disagree with you regarding how long these reels will last. I fish at least once a week and more often during the summer months. I have a Mitchell Match that is at least 35 years old and still going strong.
Fishing tackle was built better back then. Its designed to break these days.
Hi guys thanks for doing such an interesting video. Ive got a few cadence rods and reels and about 3 years ago i got a couple of cadence cs10 3000 reels which are around £120 and i do like them but with money being so type ive always liked the look and peoples option's of the ninga reels. So if possible if using an 11ft waggler for general float fishing which size and specific cheaer diawa reel would you recommend. Plus if using a 10ft max feeder rod which reel would you recommend for that? Brilliant video again much appreciated.
Alan looked pissed off then lol😅
The drag is much better on the ninja LT, for an extra couple of quid, that has the quick drag system similar to the more expensive ones, be interesting to compare that
i BOUGHT 3 REELS STANDARD COURSE FISHING REELS ON A WHIM AT WESTON GAME FAIR PRE COVID FOR £3.50 EACH. BEST REELS I HAVE EVER BOUGHT
If gearing is the only difference, we're talking 5 times the cost. Go for one at around £100. Plenty of good reels in that range that will last over 5yrs
i just use castizms for all my feeder work, best reel ive ever used
Saw John Alderton still using a Mitchell Match not long ago
A real classic.
@geoffreystockton7639 I never knew the bloke from "please sir" went fishing 😆
Its hard to purchase a "bad" reel, especially from an angling shop with pro tests/opinions/advice, id say its materials used. Stainless steel/carbon etc...massively contributing to weight, balance and life span as explained. Great vid, would like to see more vids like this across tackle 👍
I have managed it! I bought a very cheap Coonah reel that is still working well after being mistreated for several years but then bought a couple of slightly more expensive Asian reels ( can't remember the name..sugiyama or something like that and they died after a couple of weeks. Needless to say, I wont be going cheap again!
£60 daiwa reel should last 10 years or more easily
Alan was furious when Mick jumped in lol
Reported
lmfao you tell him Alan
Tom........Errrr I'd hope a £300 reel {Tournament} lasts more than 5 years lol. I've had a Ninja getting on for 5 years now and I've had no problems other than line getting behind the spool when windy.
It all depends how many times a week you use it. :-)
For me Free Spirit rods and Shimano reels
Free spirit have awful after-sales in my experience
I have shimano reels that are 10 years old, serviced every couple of years, got rid of my Ninja.
Talking about drags and comparing them. Most UK match anglers backwind 😂
I think how you play a fish and the rod is more important than the reel. just taking fishing up again , not been for about 25 years. Had 20lb + carp on cheap Shakespere reels back then no problem. Fishing now is carp mad in general and got far to technical and camo crazy , fish have poor eyesight and don't care what you're using , bait presentation is the important bit. Nice gear is nice to have but not the key to better fishing just a personal choice coupled to your budget.
I use Shimano Aero power for feeder fishing had them over 20 years used a lot in Ireland never let me down,never serviced and still going strong,you may look good on the bank but you’ll not catch any more fish,tackle just catches anglers
Ss for £300 reel should last a lifetime
Daiwa are to expensive now shimano reels for me
Lol, maybe you guys should actually have an understanding of what your talking about before you make claims and statements as fact. It's definitely a bad look. BTW, the only thing magseal does on that reel is protect the clutch and possibly the line roller bearing. No ferrofluid in the gears, why would you add metal dust to gear lube? Please take a look at some part numbers and you'll have a better understanding of the real differences between Daiwa's 100/300/500 dollar models.
Spro red arc
Plastic line clips are rubbish. All should be metal across the Daiwa range.
Sad part is that even if you decide to splurge on Daiwa reels you can never get the best in all aspects in one reel. The Tournament are heavy like a pig, the N'ZON PLUS LT have a crappy internal design and lack the grease from the factory, the DAIWA N ZON LT looks and feels like knockoff of a Chinese knockoff and the Ninja is just a reel for the folks that want a product with the label Daiwa imprinted on it. On top of that all my Daiwa reels and everyone else's I know that uses one have the "Daiwa whine" fresh out of the box.
Wow weeee mate what a big shop you have got where are you
Dont buy a Ninja they are crap
You need a child safety gate up there keep noisy neighbours out of film 📽️ studio
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Don't bother I bought stellas etc in the past, just a gimmick.
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