I’d say he was just cautious as an unfamiliar event had happened, but considering he’s a sovreign who brute force defeated the narwhal with elemental energy instead of using abyssal power…thats kinda like beating a boss with 95% dmg reduction to hydro and he did it lmao.
personally... we have never seen Arleccino as a harbinger. we have only seen her as father. we have yet to see her when she is in front of her enemies.... as far as we know. she was careful with neuvillette. she may not know who neuvillette was but i think she already had an idea that he was someone she could not defeat or the fatui can ever defeat. hence she was very very careful with how she acted in fontaine. she may be insane when outside of fontaine though and that is what the harbingers know
@@YukiZero which is exciting. I personally think is already seeing her power = harbinger, but she most definitely has room to show more. However, this is the same for any harbinger besides Dottore.
If i remember right in version 4.0 they added new dialogue from momoyo after the completion of the secret fortune slip quest about how the poisioning plot in inazuma was a plot between the teacher and the previous knave.
Speaking on Arlecchino being present in Snezhnaya, I feel like it’s a given that all the Harbingers that are currently aligned with the Fatui are going to make an appearance in Snezhnaya, as important main characters of that arc. Personally, I’m hoping the Snezhnaya arc focuses on the ones we’re less acquainted with though, as they definitely should be fleshed out as characters. For example, Columbina, who is also fairly hyped up and mystified by the in game dialogue of the playable harbingers, with the confirmed Third ranking Harbinger being a mysterious dangerous person that not even the battle crazy murder hobo Childe would want to fight. Ooh, and Sandrone. I assumed we’d see more of her in Fontaine, due to the massive ass robot that she has, but nah, nothing, except maybe an off hand line somewhere in the story(or a side quest, not entirely sure) about how Sandrone doesn’t wanna be enemies with the Traveler. Who knows, maybe, but unlikely because of Capitano, one of the aforementioned mysterious harbingers will make an appearance in Natlan.
@@ItsJustT personally, I think Pantalone is gonna only appear in Snezhnaya. Why? Cuz as Arlecchino mentioned in the winter night’s lazzo, the heartless dignitaries find excuses to stay in the homeland, referring to Pulcinella and Pantalone as the dignitaries, and Snezhnaya as the homeland.
@@AnArtistInAVoid yessir I agree, so I hope Pantalone has content there. If they'll put arlecchinos good stuff in her optional quest, could be the same for them. Pantalone definitely looks playable
@@ItsJustT I assume all the harbingers will end up playable(aside from Signora, rip). Yes, even the made to be hated Dottore, if for no other speculative reason than just that the Harbingers can have voice lines about the other Harbingers.
As a player who loves Klee... it's mostly because she was my first five star. Admitedly if I did not have her I probably would not care, but as someone who mained Klee for 3 years (i now play kokomi more often for co-op domains but I still use Klee in abyss when it favors her) she has a special place in my heart
I agree with a majority of your points. I think Arle's SQ was one of the better ones (though admitedly the bar isn't that high). I do enjoy how Arle chose to end the battle and let the Traveler go after she showed the true extent of her power. I think it's easy for players to forget that for most of the story, the Traveler has been assisted by other characters and most major battles are won with help. With Arlecchino? The Traveler clearly stood no chance, especially with the characters who were helping him. I can only hope they continue this trend for the other higher ranked Harbingers. I do have one big gripe with Arle's SQ, though. I do think the animated short, while a great idea, should've been included in the game as a cutscene. Not every Genshin player pays attention to social media, let alone Genshin's YouTuve account. And in my opinion, they shouldn't have to. Nowadays, a lot of media required you to seek out supplementary material to get the full story. And Genshin's been guilty of this for a long time (eg. Diluc and Collei's backstories). It can be debated, but I don't think it's a good thing. A lot of the weight of Arle's story comes from the animated short and knowing what she had to witness and had to sacrifice. Instead, in the game they chose to retell her backstory using still images and a lot of exposition. And that takes away a lot of the impact.
I'd argue none of the out-of-game content are necessary to follow the story. Not only that, most of the information in them have been introduced in the game one way or another. We will eventually meet all Harbingers, so the Winter Night Lazzo isn't necessary. Arlecchino told us everything we need to know about her past, so her short is unnecessary. Collei's backstory is pretty much entirely irrelevant to the game's story, as none of the events from there were important to understand anything in the game (expect how Collei and Amber met, but that's not the important as well in the overall narrative), and her condition was explained in-game. So on and so on. I'd only say the experience from playing the game alone and playing while also watching outside content are different. Not necessarily better or worse, but different. For example, someone who didn't what Arlecchino's short would be more involved in the mystery of who the pink-haired child is. Us, who already watched the short beforehand, knew exactly who she was from the get-go. I, at least, guessed what was going on in the quest rather early due to that, "ruining" the final reveal. Of course, to compensate, it felt good in a different way, as all puzzle pieces started fitting together, as a larger world started feeling more whole. Not once Genshin's story RELIED on us knowing something from outside content. Like, for example, it would be if we suddenly started talking to Wriothesley as if we already met him, and used hints the game never presented us to investigate a mystery, only to find out the Traveler met him and got some hints from him during an animated short. All information we get from outside is either only extras for delving deeper than we need into characters, or "spoilers" for things to come, which we'll learn later in-game. So no, I don't think these shorts are a bad thing. Hoyo can tell the story they want and we need, while also giving treats to encourage people to engage in the community, which furthers the game's reach through organic marketing.
@@SirZelean this is also very true. I think at the end of the day nothing will matter. However, from a present moment standpoint, specific things like teasers will matter such as A Winter Night's Lazzo if you want to have certain bits of information now rather than later. However, there's nothing wrong with that at all, and honestly presents alot of freedom over how you digest content overtime, similar to watching certain anime in different order, or playing certain games in different orders like Yakuza or Danganronpa
it's not related only to Arle but...Traveller is in trouble because without help he/she could not defeat Shogun and then Arle was another difficult opponent to our loved Travellers so...without power beyond the stars we are probably only trigger for something and without us two big forces will not fight i mean world and um that floating crap on the fake sky what about abyss? well i have a feeling about fatui and abyss collaborating to some degree or have the same goal at least
Hey! 👋 New subscriber here, It may be off topic but according to venti's voice line (old voice lines that didnt get uploaded) in current game, said that mavuika/pyro archon will give her power to the traveller so probably at this point we'll be able to defeat arlechinno and the harbingers ranked 4-11 also the old voice lines were very accurate u may search up the video named: Pre-release | venti about ALL archons voice line by Ubatcha videos // also liked the video, made perfect sense :D
I haven't done her quest, nice! Interesting, now I'm wondering, What could happen if I start Natlan without doing Arlecchino quest, for the narrative, like, what happens with the crimson moon or if she's mentioned by the next Fatui very interesting video! ❤
@@Doro-bashi that's what I'm iffy on. As I mentioned in video, this is the first fatui harbinger fight in a story quest rather than archon quest, but it shouldn't be too major considering the effect of it IS mostly on her and the house
I think the comments wanderer and child made on arlecchino being um-trustworthy were because they didn't know that the knave changed ? maybe child abslutely didnt know that the knave changed and i think wanderer left before arlecchino became the knave
@@arjunsivag8437 Arlecchino became the Knave several years ago, where Scaramouche was literally standing there. Childe on the other hand may of not been in the harbingers at the time, but that just means he would of met her either before or during a Winter Night's Lazzo
I don’t know tbh. I’m not satisfied all they did was explain the stuff they already told us. I don’t think anything new was discovered about her for real. That’s just my opinion. I think her quest it poorly written.
@@ItsJustT exactly! The story quest had no REAL purpose it was to made to reinstate the things we’ve already been told about her. When you give a character a story quest it should be used to flesh out their character give us a new outlook on them or just develop them. Her story quest does none of those things. It’s just answers questions. We already had answers to to begin with. It didn’t develop her character. Didn’t leave us with more questions. It did nothing for her in my humble opinion. But hey my TH-cam is unpopular opinion for a reason 🤷♀️idk
@@unpopularopinion3539 actually making her a fatui harbinger is pretty important in my opinion. She's next to useless in the Fontaine archon quests, and it isn't like they could go and change them afterwards, so that was the next best thing, and it was pulled off in a way that maintained her in game appeal and out of game appeal simultaneously
@@ItsJustT her story request wasn’t even about her 💀. Like I said they regurgitated the info and spit it back out, but with cooler animations and slightly better storytelling. All I’m saying is she disappointed me. I was so hype for her but was just disappointed because the genshin writers are all monkeys looked in a basement that get fed when they write something thats readable, and she was already a harbinger was she not? TBH I just wanted her to be a psycho like the voice lines hinted at her being instead we get watered down garbage none of the voice lines talking about her is actually her fr. Wanna know what would have been better if we got to see her true crazy side. Or see her be more graceful and forgiving like how the og better mom was. Unpopular opinion, but I would’ve rather gotten the original “father” than this emo skunk.
I probably couldve included voicelines about arlecchino from fontainians, but oh well womp womp
I honestly don’t think that neuvilette was intimidated, he had respect for her.
I’d say he was just cautious as an unfamiliar event had happened, but considering he’s a sovreign who brute force defeated the narwhal with elemental energy instead of using abyssal power…thats kinda like beating a boss with 95% dmg reduction to hydro and he did it lmao.
personally... we have never seen Arleccino as a harbinger. we have only seen her as father. we have yet to see her when she is in front of her enemies.... as far as we know. she was careful with neuvillette. she may not know who neuvillette was but i think she already had an idea that he was someone she could not defeat or the fatui can ever defeat. hence she was very very careful with how she acted in fontaine. she may be insane when outside of fontaine though and that is what the harbingers know
@@YukiZero which is exciting. I personally think is already seeing her power = harbinger, but she most definitely has room to show more. However, this is the same for any harbinger besides Dottore.
Awesome! ‼️‼️‼️ I never knew T shirts were so smart!!!!
If i remember right in version 4.0 they added new dialogue from momoyo after the completion of the secret fortune slip quest about how the poisioning plot in inazuma was a plot between the teacher and the previous knave.
Speaking on Arlecchino being present in Snezhnaya, I feel like it’s a given that all the Harbingers that are currently aligned with the Fatui are going to make an appearance in Snezhnaya, as important main characters of that arc.
Personally, I’m hoping the Snezhnaya arc focuses on the ones we’re less acquainted with though, as they definitely should be fleshed out as characters.
For example, Columbina, who is also fairly hyped up and mystified by the in game dialogue of the playable harbingers, with the confirmed Third ranking Harbinger being a mysterious dangerous person that not even the battle crazy murder hobo Childe would want to fight.
Ooh, and Sandrone. I assumed we’d see more of her in Fontaine, due to the massive ass robot that she has, but nah, nothing, except maybe an off hand line somewhere in the story(or a side quest, not entirely sure) about how Sandrone doesn’t wanna be enemies with the Traveler.
Who knows, maybe, but unlikely because of Capitano, one of the aforementioned mysterious harbingers will make an appearance in Natlan.
@@AnArtistInAVoid I hope we see Pantalone. I love Pantalone sm, and boy I'm excited for cap
@@ItsJustT personally, I think Pantalone is gonna only appear in Snezhnaya.
Why? Cuz as Arlecchino mentioned in the winter night’s lazzo, the heartless dignitaries find excuses to stay in the homeland, referring to Pulcinella and Pantalone as the dignitaries, and Snezhnaya as the homeland.
@@AnArtistInAVoid yessir I agree, so I hope Pantalone has content there. If they'll put arlecchinos good stuff in her optional quest, could be the same for them. Pantalone definitely looks playable
@@ItsJustT I assume all the harbingers will end up playable(aside from Signora, rip). Yes, even the made to be hated Dottore, if for no other speculative reason than just that the Harbingers can have voice lines about the other Harbingers.
As a player who loves Klee... it's mostly because she was my first five star. Admitedly if I did not have her I probably would not care, but as someone who mained Klee for 3 years (i now play kokomi more often for co-op domains but I still use Klee in abyss when it favors her) she has a special place in my heart
@@salmonmeister that's fair. I'm just glad my first banner five star was childe 😈😈😈😈
Thank you for this video. It was necessary.
I agree with a majority of your points. I think Arle's SQ was one of the better ones (though admitedly the bar isn't that high).
I do enjoy how Arle chose to end the battle and let the Traveler go after she showed the true extent of her power. I think it's easy for players to forget that for most of the story, the Traveler has been assisted by other characters and most major battles are won with help.
With Arlecchino? The Traveler clearly stood no chance, especially with the characters who were helping him.
I can only hope they continue this trend for the other higher ranked Harbingers.
I do have one big gripe with Arle's SQ, though.
I do think the animated short, while a great idea, should've been included in the game as a cutscene. Not every Genshin player pays attention to social media, let alone Genshin's YouTuve account. And in my opinion, they shouldn't have to.
Nowadays, a lot of media required you to seek out supplementary material to get the full story. And Genshin's been guilty of this for a long time (eg. Diluc and Collei's backstories). It can be debated, but I don't think it's a good thing.
A lot of the weight of Arle's story comes from the animated short and knowing what she had to witness and had to sacrifice.
Instead, in the game they chose to retell her backstory using still images and a lot of exposition. And that takes away a lot of the impact.
@@pinkraven7043 that's very true. Think I touched on that in the 2.8 section, how not everyone would've seen 'A Winter Night's Lazzo'
I'd argue none of the out-of-game content are necessary to follow the story. Not only that, most of the information in them have been introduced in the game one way or another. We will eventually meet all Harbingers, so the Winter Night Lazzo isn't necessary. Arlecchino told us everything we need to know about her past, so her short is unnecessary. Collei's backstory is pretty much entirely irrelevant to the game's story, as none of the events from there were important to understand anything in the game (expect how Collei and Amber met, but that's not the important as well in the overall narrative), and her condition was explained in-game. So on and so on.
I'd only say the experience from playing the game alone and playing while also watching outside content are different. Not necessarily better or worse, but different. For example, someone who didn't what Arlecchino's short would be more involved in the mystery of who the pink-haired child is. Us, who already watched the short beforehand, knew exactly who she was from the get-go. I, at least, guessed what was going on in the quest rather early due to that, "ruining" the final reveal. Of course, to compensate, it felt good in a different way, as all puzzle pieces started fitting together, as a larger world started feeling more whole.
Not once Genshin's story RELIED on us knowing something from outside content. Like, for example, it would be if we suddenly started talking to Wriothesley as if we already met him, and used hints the game never presented us to investigate a mystery, only to find out the Traveler met him and got some hints from him during an animated short. All information we get from outside is either only extras for delving deeper than we need into characters, or "spoilers" for things to come, which we'll learn later in-game.
So no, I don't think these shorts are a bad thing. Hoyo can tell the story they want and we need, while also giving treats to encourage people to engage in the community, which furthers the game's reach through organic marketing.
@@SirZelean this is also very true. I think at the end of the day nothing will matter. However, from a present moment standpoint, specific things like teasers will matter such as A Winter Night's Lazzo if you want to have certain bits of information now rather than later. However, there's nothing wrong with that at all, and honestly presents alot of freedom over how you digest content overtime, similar to watching certain anime in different order, or playing certain games in different orders like Yakuza or Danganronpa
it's not related only to Arle but...Traveller is in trouble because without help he/she could not defeat Shogun and then Arle was another difficult opponent to our loved Travellers so...without power beyond the stars we are probably only trigger for something and without us two big forces will not fight i mean world and um that floating crap on the fake sky what about abyss? well i have a feeling about fatui and abyss collaborating to some degree or have the same goal at least
i agree with this video entirely
@@aceee.. i do too
Hey! 👋 New subscriber here, It may be off topic but according to venti's voice line (old voice lines that didnt get uploaded) in current game, said that mavuika/pyro archon will give her power to the traveller so probably at this point we'll be able to defeat arlechinno and the harbingers ranked 4-11 also the old voice lines were very accurate u may search up the video named: Pre-release | venti about ALL archons voice line by Ubatcha videos // also liked the video, made perfect sense :D
@@icy8213 I'll look into it! Thank you, I wouldn't of known that otherwise
I haven't done her quest, nice! Interesting, now I'm wondering,
What could happen if I start Natlan without doing Arlecchino quest, for the narrative, like, what happens with the crimson moon or if she's mentioned by the next Fatui
very interesting video! ❤
@@Doro-bashi that's what I'm iffy on. As I mentioned in video, this is the first fatui harbinger fight in a story quest rather than archon quest, but it shouldn't be too major considering the effect of it IS mostly on her and the house
Most likely they’ll force you to do her quest before continuing whatever act of the Natlan quest you are on.
@@Fuphu possible
Damn I wonder who came up with that wingspan joke
I think the comments wanderer and child made on arlecchino being um-trustworthy were because they didn't know that the knave changed ? maybe
child abslutely didnt know that the knave changed and i think wanderer left before arlecchino became the knave
@@arjunsivag8437 Arlecchino became the Knave several years ago, where Scaramouche was literally standing there. Childe on the other hand may of not been in the harbingers at the time, but that just means he would of met her either before or during a Winter Night's Lazzo
She herself ended midtao glazers😭😭😭
Eyyyy🤙🏻
Scaramouche? A human? Did I miss something??
@@micaiah_smbdy hence why I said 'Ironically' 💰😋
@@ItsJustT oh cus I was so confused 😭
@@micaiah_smbdy lmao, just that he has more emotion than all the other Harbingers imo
I don’t know tbh. I’m not satisfied all they did was explain the stuff they already told us. I don’t think anything new was discovered about her for real. That’s just my opinion. I think her quest it poorly written.
@@unpopularopinion3539 that's also fine, though it wasn't about discovery imo. It was about showing what we should've seen already
@@ItsJustT exactly! The story quest had no REAL purpose it was to made to reinstate the things we’ve already been told about her. When you give a character a story quest it should be used to flesh out their character give us a new outlook on them or just develop them. Her story quest does none of those things. It’s just answers questions. We already had answers to to begin with. It didn’t develop her character. Didn’t leave us with more questions. It did nothing for her in my humble opinion. But hey my TH-cam is unpopular opinion for a reason 🤷♀️idk
@@unpopularopinion3539 actually making her a fatui harbinger is pretty important in my opinion. She's next to useless in the Fontaine archon quests, and it isn't like they could go and change them afterwards, so that was the next best thing, and it was pulled off in a way that maintained her in game appeal and out of game appeal simultaneously
@@ItsJustT her story request wasn’t even about her 💀. Like I said they regurgitated the info and spit it back out, but with cooler animations and slightly better storytelling. All I’m saying is she disappointed me. I was so hype for her but was just disappointed because the genshin writers are all monkeys looked in a basement that get fed when they write something thats readable, and she was already a harbinger was she not? TBH I just wanted her to be a psycho like the voice lines hinted at her being instead we get watered down garbage none of the voice lines talking about her is actually her fr. Wanna know what would have been better if we got to see her true crazy side. Or see her be more graceful and forgiving like how the og better mom was. Unpopular opinion, but I would’ve rather gotten the original “father” than this emo skunk.