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The most interesting last months of the ARG were barely touched (for example: where did the player get the box with the button from, where did the key for it come from, etc. The thing with the launch holding back around christmas was actually due to having the key mailed across US from the west coast to the east and it only arrived at christmas when Randomiser - the person with the box was away for the family obligations). Just for the taste of what those last months of the ARG entailed, a "short" list: a real-life event with a bee-man in a supermarket; scraps of paper with codes in a tennessee library; a room escape in Portland; a letter from a time traveller inside a book in another library in Berkeley; continuously released series of TH-cam videos with coordinates that slowly spell out "BUTTS"; multiple professionally made songs and/or music tracks; 3D models of FF2 memorabilia; a unity game "Unboxing Story" that mimics Her Story and has some Sigil secrets.
FF2 is more about the story behind and around the game than the game itself. The game, on the whole, is mildly amusing and not very fun. But as this documentary shows, the story behind it is fascinating.
That's probably something we call "meme" - it doesn't have much value itself, but if put in right context with right experience/knowledge applied, it becomes actually valuable, uncovers some story and narrative.
honestly, i thought the game was pretty fun, kind of brilliant, but the stuff around it is much better than the game itself... just wish i could be apart of args...
As a person who started with an Atari....and have followed games VERY closely since probably '87 ....I loved this game... every ounce of it.... The whole game is for some... and parts of it are for everyone.... Its pure genius
Danny mate, absolutely fascinating! I honestly wasn't super interested in playing this game before watching the vid, but now, it DOES mean something to me and I'm definitely going to pick it up! The way you communicated Jim's heart for this game is just top class!
Yeah honestly, he doesn't sound like he is in it for the money, but more for the pleasure of creating something that people enjoy. Sucks bigger companies aren't creating things like this.
What if Frog Fractions 2 isn't even what they're letting on it is and there's actually some other game that's already the real real Frog Fractions 2? Mind blown.
Frog Fractions 2 honestly blew me away with it's scope. It constantly challenged me and made me laugh at the same time. The way the stuff you did in text world was always changing was so cool that I am still screaming internally about why no one else I know is talking about it. It was my game of the year last year for sure.
I'd heard of Frog Fractions 2 a good while back (courtesy of Two Best Friends Play wondering if everything was Frog Fractions 2), but the story... jeez man. I don't even know what to think, aside from this is a brilliant marketing move in every way except financially. But from the sound of it, I think it's immensely successful in the way the creator values most, and that's worth it.
Flappy Bird / Stock Market mash-up is f*cking genius. I am actually glad you postponed this by a week for the mini-puzzle (and kudos to those who succeeded) - Jim just comes across as a guy who really deserves a and extra week in the spotlight.
This conversation was amazing! A shame the game has less than 10k owners on Steam. Even if a fraction (pacepalm) of folks who enjoyed this video bought the game today, these numbers would jump significantly. The first sale will boost these figures, and perhaps a re-labeling in the future would help? But that might sacrifice the integrity of the game. What a unique story though, cheers DoD!
Hey Danny I love your docs, they're such a high quality and meaningful documentaries and I always get so excited when I get the notification for this channel/ I wish I could help and be a pateron but I hope that just watching helps. Keep up the good work!
I have absolutely no interest in playing this game but I just grabbed a copy, this is brillant, this man is a genius and he deserves every good thing life throws at him. What a great, talented artist. Well done mate.
I smiled through the whole video (and first part too). I discovered both games with this documentary, and that was really fascinating. Great job again Danny!
This is a great, great video (as was the first one, which actually got me to play Frog Fractions). You guys should be proud, as should Jim for what he created. This video definitely has me tempted for FF2, 100%. Once I come into some money, the Patreon will definitely receive some funding from myself, too. Great work all!
Yo dawg I herd u like subversions so I put a subversion in your subversion... On a serious note, it is incredible to me how intimate and personal your interviews feel within such a short time.
Great video. I stopped watching it to play FF2 first, and wow what a ride. So many homages, throwbacks, and in-jokes in one game. Adventure, ZZT, Centipede, Final Fantasy, Space Invaders, Spelunky, the list of games that inspired the madness of Frog Fractions 2 goes on. I hope Frog Fractions 2 goes on to become a cult hit.
Danny, this is amazing content! The amount of soul you put into these vidoes are incredible. You are the main reason I have any faith left in gaming media. I completed FF1 but this is an entirely different beast... Looking forward to many more projects from you.
I wish Inferno Investigation was more fleshed out, that was a really cool concept, with a kickass song too And that terms of service agreement joke in the included full text of dante's inferno was top-notch
I haven't played this game yet, but based on what I saw online, it makes sense why it's not selling super well. The most interesting thing about it is that it's hidden in another game. One of the things about the first game that made it special was how it started out normal and gradually got weirder and weirder. This game seems like a consistently random collection of mini games. There is no escalation and no sense of surprise.
dont get me wrong, i love all the stuff about frog fractions, but it really shows that frog fractions 2 was missing a real concept. i had the feeling of just playing a collection of different minigames without a real connection pretty fast.
This really hits on what was coolest about the post Frog Fractions world. Every game that was released could secretly be Frog Fractions 2. There was that inherent mystery. Love how open ended his final words were. Would love for him to release "Frog Fractions 3" but literally never tell a soul about it until it was discovered.
I don't enjoy the challenge, the mystery, the ARG's, the obscure puzzles, the original game or it's 'sequel', but i like hearing how much devious fun its creator is having.
If you are reading this, Frog Fractions 3 ACTUALLY IS OUT, AND ITS HIDDEN IN FROG FRACTIONS 1. The only hint I will give you, is that FF1 is now free on Steam. Go download it. Won't be too difficult to figure how to get to FF3 from there.
just finished this game and i loved it for all the weirdness and the hilarious moments it threw at me. never really explored the txt adventure genre, and this was a nice intro to that style I didnt know that glittermitten was made by different devs. i never go for casual games like that but i found that part surprisingly fun too, just building out my village and exporing
I'm definitely one of those people who loved the first game and wanted to like the second, but couldn't get past the nonsense that is text world... I put several hours in, but I'm dropping it. The mini games are fun, but they're not enough of a reward to keep banging my head against a wall.
is this video Frog Fractions 3? What if Frog Fractions was Released before FF1, what if the Frog fractions 3 was the Arab Spring, which would be more frighting that We are all Frog Fractions or None of us are?
"And then people found it within a day because of Steam updates being databased, people found out it was mostly text adventure stuff, and most people hated it" *The end*
This guy isn't an arsehole, he's a bloody mastermind. These type of games aren't my cup of tea but it's easy to appreciate the effort he's put into it.
On the topic of putting the game on sale I think the problem you might have is that people won't remember that Frog Fractions 2 is within the fairy game when you put it on sale. Which might also be part of the poor sales. Maybe another "thing" in order to get it back into the public space around when you do decide to put it on sale might help?
The distribution setup is just a nightmare man...you're tying the fate of two games together that couldn't be more polar opposite in terms of target audience - sarcasstic, nostalgic 90s gamer vs 12 yr old girl...so your pitting the market forces against one another over your game, and it certainly doesn't help that you wont identify the ip or its creator - it's destined to bomb, and drag whatever you tie it to down with it, unless the two ips would reach the same sorts of people naturally. I think patching it into one game is a narrow way to go, man. Crawford should patch it into bunches of games. It could be hidden in subliminal updates across the industry, and he could take a royalty on analytics data about how many times the patch gets accessed. Booyah...exponential growth, for a seemingly infinite period...new year, new games, new patch.
Perhaps separating it from its current host, so they both become separate games? Then giving owners of the fairy game a copy of frog fractions 2 as a separate entity. That way it at least gains better brand recognition on Steam from people who might remember something about that game when seeing the title. I would rather not have 5 copies of the same game on my hard drive from various indie games.
aljowen I think he's talking about people like myself. I saw the price point and put it on my wish list. its a game I want to try but there are other, cheaper games that I would buy first. if this went on 50% sale is buy it today.
I would assume there probably aren't a whole lot of people such as yourself compared to the number of people who were aware of frog fractions. The indie game space is a drop in the pond compared to mainstream gaming, dilute that further to people who have heard of frog fractions, then dilute that down to the number of people who have heard of the second one. Within that you have the people who did buy it, which wasn't enough to make a profit, never mind fund a sequel. Even if at launch it sat at 50% of people purchasing and 50% waiting for a sale what are the chances that they are still interested in the game after this length of time? Not to mention that many publications didn't think much of the game either, which further hurts the games chances to succeed within the already small group of people who have heard of it. Perhaps with video's such as this one publicising the game it will be able to gain enough traction to be commercially successful. Even though I didn't play the series (watched a lets play of the first and didn't bother with the second) I do hope the creator is able to justify future game endeavours, he sounds like a guy with a lot of cool ideas with potential.
I reeeeeeeally don't think he's that concerned about money. I mean, anyone who even knows what money is knows that his chosen distribution method is a disaster. I think he's much more likely making a point by going the route he has.
My god, i'm about half way though this and this guy is absolutely insane! What an amazing mind to come up with these completely absurd concepts... Just finished watching.. Think I might have just experienced the unreleased Frog Fractions 3. O_O
Another well put together doc! I always find it disheartening that someone who has given most of their ideas and talent away for free later asks for a little compensation on a project and people don't op to help them out. It's odd because if you played frog factions a few times, followed the ARG and didn't kickstart the game or buy it when it was available... It just seems weird to me to not throw them some cash.
I never heard about these games before until LRG did their physical release for it. This is seriously awesome, but ARG stuff is way too over my head to ever be able to participate. Awesome and hilarious!
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Well done Josh. Congratulations on being the first. :)
Just finished watching it. Another winner! Well done, as usual.
Doesn't look like anything to me...
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The most interesting last months of the ARG were barely touched (for example: where did the player get the box with the button from, where did the key for it come from, etc. The thing with the launch holding back around christmas was actually due to having the key mailed across US from the west coast to the east and it only arrived at christmas when Randomiser - the person with the box was away for the family obligations).
Just for the taste of what those last months of the ARG entailed, a "short" list: a real-life event with a bee-man in a supermarket; scraps of paper with codes in a tennessee library; a room escape in Portland; a letter from a time traveller inside a book in another library in Berkeley; continuously released series of TH-cam videos with coordinates that slowly spell out "BUTTS"; multiple professionally made songs and/or music tracks; 3D models of FF2 memorabilia; a unity game "Unboxing Story" that mimics Her Story and has some Sigil secrets.
That mass effect save import is genius
yep. probably my favourite part.
Made me laugh so much that I had to pause the video xD
Fantastic.
!!! Senpai noticed me!
FF2 is more about the story behind and around the game than the game itself. The game, on the whole, is mildly amusing and not very fun. But as this documentary shows, the story behind it is fascinating.
That's probably something we call "meme" - it doesn't have much value itself, but if put in right context with right experience/knowledge applied, it becomes actually valuable, uncovers some story and narrative.
honestly, i thought the game was pretty fun, kind of brilliant, but the stuff around it is much better than the game itself... just wish i could be apart of args...
As a person who started with an Atari....and have followed games VERY closely since probably '87 ....I loved this game... every ounce of it.... The whole game is for some... and parts of it are for everyone.... Its pure genius
frog fractions 2 has some genius moments in gameplay too. you cant go into it expecting a story though. its more about the joy of exploration
I'm thankful that people like Jim exist and that they are somehow able to scrounge together capital to make projects like this happen.
Danny mate, absolutely fascinating! I honestly wasn't super interested in playing this game before watching the vid, but now, it DOES mean something to me and I'm definitely going to pick it up! The way you communicated Jim's heart for this game is just top class!
Frog Fractions 3 confirmed. (It's probably hidden in Half-Life 3)
the pun is that frog fractions 2's ending, says the game is frog fractions 3 (incase you didnt understand)
Anyone find something in Half-Life Alyx yet?
That's a bummer the game isn't selling well. Jim seems like such a genuine person who really cares about giving gamers an enjoyable experience
Yeah honestly, he doesn't sound like he is in it for the money, but more for the pleasure of creating something that people enjoy. Sucks bigger companies aren't creating things like this.
That closing line. Fucking epic.
That final statement from Jim Crawford made my brain implode!
I just told my wife he was a prick for that. I love it though, thinkg of how many indie games that guy has helped sell.
What if Frog Fractions 2 isn't even what they're letting on it is and there's actually some other game that's already the real real Frog Fractions 2? Mind blown.
@@somewhere-else I mean they did call the game inside Glittermitten Frog Fractions 3... Hmm
Frog Fractions 2 honestly blew me away with it's scope. It constantly challenged me and made me laugh at the same time. The way the stuff you did in text world was always changing was so cool that I am still screaming internally about why no one else I know is talking about it. It was my game of the year last year for sure.
I'd heard of Frog Fractions 2 a good while back (courtesy of Two Best Friends Play wondering if everything was Frog Fractions 2), but the story... jeez man. I don't even know what to think, aside from this is a brilliant marketing move in every way except financially. But from the sound of it, I think it's immensely successful in the way the creator values most, and that's worth it.
Flappy Bird / Stock Market mash-up is f*cking genius.
I am actually glad you postponed this by a week for the mini-puzzle (and kudos to those who succeeded) - Jim just comes across as a guy who really deserves a and extra week in the spotlight.
This whole situation was so weird.
just bought glittermitter grove to support this awesome dev. keep doing stuff like this forever!
ABsolutely amazing documentary Danny. Jim is such a legend too.
The real Frog Fractions 2 were the friends we made along the way.
YES! Finding this trumps any other qualification I've ever achieved in life
Well Jim, you just made another sale.
HEAR HEAR!!!
This conversation was amazing! A shame the game has less than 10k owners on Steam. Even if a fraction (pacepalm) of folks who enjoyed this video bought the game today, these numbers would jump significantly. The first sale will boost these figures, and perhaps a re-labeling in the future would help? But that might sacrifice the integrity of the game. What a unique story though, cheers DoD!
This made me way more emotional than I anticipated.
Hey Danny I love your docs, they're such a high quality and meaningful documentaries and I always get so excited when I get the notification for this channel/ I wish I could help and be a pateron but I hope that just watching helps. Keep up the good work!
What a nightmare. Well done Danny, you glorious monster.
THE BEST video game docu. makers. Fantastic work and keep them coming!
I have absolutely no interest in playing this game but I just grabbed a copy, this is brillant, this man is a genius and he deserves every good thing life throws at him. What a great, talented artist. Well done mate.
So, Frog Fractions 2.5 is out already, according to that vague last statement.
Is anyone already analizing this video for clues?
As someone who has played both Frog Fractions games, I picked a pretty exciting time to watch this video. That's all I am gonna say.
I've never even heard of an ARG before.
Thanks Danny, another great vid.
I smiled through the whole video (and first part too). I discovered both games with this documentary, and that was really fascinating. Great job again Danny!
This is a great, great video (as was the first one, which actually got me to play Frog Fractions). You guys should be proud, as should Jim for what he created. This video definitely has me tempted for FF2, 100%. Once I come into some money, the Patreon will definitely receive some funding from myself, too. Great work all!
Great work, but surprised not more people have found this yet!
Yo dawg I herd u like subversions so I put a subversion in your subversion...
On a serious note, it is incredible to me how intimate and personal your interviews feel within such a short time.
Great video. I stopped watching it to play FF2 first, and wow what a ride. So many homages, throwbacks, and in-jokes in one game. Adventure, ZZT, Centipede, Final Fantasy, Space Invaders, Spelunky, the list of games that inspired the madness of Frog Fractions 2 goes on. I hope Frog Fractions 2 goes on to become a cult hit.
I kind of wish he never released it, or at least I wish it was way harder to find.
Now all the hype around "Is this Frog Fractions 2?!" has died :(
Such a great video. Keep up the great work guys!!!
Danny, this is amazing content! The amount of soul you put into these vidoes are incredible. You are the main reason I have any faith left in gaming media. I completed FF1 but this is an entirely different beast... Looking forward to many more projects from you.
What an amazing story! Thanks for bringing it to light, Danny, and bravo to Jim Crawford and Twin Beard for making the games
I wish Inferno Investigation was more fleshed out, that was a really cool concept, with a kickass song too
And that terms of service agreement joke in the included full text of dante's inferno was top-notch
I haven't played this game yet, but based on what I saw online, it makes sense why it's not selling super well. The most interesting thing about it is that it's hidden in another game. One of the things about the first game that made it special was how it started out normal and gradually got weirder and weirder. This game seems like a consistently random collection of mini games. There is no escalation and no sense of surprise.
Great stuff! Thanks for the hint, Danny!
dont get me wrong, i love all the stuff about frog fractions, but it really shows that frog fractions 2 was missing a real concept. i had the feeling of just playing a collection of different minigames without a real connection pretty fast.
This really hits on what was coolest about the post Frog Fractions world. Every game that was released could secretly be Frog Fractions 2. There was that inherent mystery. Love how open ended his final words were. Would love for him to release "Frog Fractions 3" but literally never tell a soul about it until it was discovered.
Man this guy is really awesome. All the best for the wedding!
Just finished the FF2, that last frog puzzle was immensely satisfying.
I don't enjoy the challenge, the mystery, the ARG's, the obscure puzzles, the original game or it's 'sequel', but i like hearing how much devious fun its creator is having.
Frog Fractions 3 is actually out and it's in No Man's Sky, guaranteeing that no one will ever play it.
no, frog fractions 3 is in glittermitten grove, have you even played it? Well i can assure you that i *beat* it
the most severely underrated burn in these comments
the funniest part of this comment is that nms is good now lmao
If you are reading this, Frog Fractions 3 ACTUALLY IS OUT, AND ITS HIDDEN IN FROG FRACTIONS 1. The only hint I will give you, is that FF1 is now free on Steam. Go download it. Won't be too difficult to figure how to get to FF3 from there.
just finished this game and i loved it for all the weirdness and the hilarious moments it threw at me. never really explored the txt adventure genre, and this was a nice intro to that style
I didnt know that glittermitten was made by different devs. i never go for casual games like that but i found that part surprisingly fun too, just building out my village and exporing
thanks for doing what your're doing Danny.
That's not just any portrait of a woman in gold, it's Klimt's "Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I"
I'm definitely one of those people who loved the first game and wanted to like the second, but couldn't get past the nonsense that is text world... I put several hours in, but I'm dropping it. The mini games are fun, but they're not enough of a reward to keep banging my head against a wall.
Another excellent doc! Well done man!
Why do i get the feeling he didnt want to make a sequel to Frog Fractions 1?
is this video Frog Fractions 3? What if Frog Fractions was Released before FF1, what if the Frog fractions 3 was the Arab Spring, which would be more frighting that We are all Frog Fractions or None of us are?
I got here with a little help, very cool idea.
watched this twice just today, amazing stuff.
I really feel sorry for Jim. He HAD to charge for it, but also it can't go viral because it charges money. Rock and a hard place.
I'm loving your documentaries so so much!
Congratulations on you coming marriage and thank you for helping to enrich the gaming community.
"And then people found it within a day because of Steam updates being databased, people found out it was mostly text adventure stuff, and most people hated it" *The end*
Finnaly us dumb dumbs can see this amazing video
Lovely, interesting guy and a lovely, interesting interview.
This guy isn't an arsehole, he's a bloody mastermind. These type of games aren't my cup of tea but it's easy to appreciate the effort he's put into it.
On the topic of putting the game on sale I think the problem you might have is that people won't remember that Frog Fractions 2 is within the fairy game when you put it on sale. Which might also be part of the poor sales.
Maybe another "thing" in order to get it back into the public space around when you do decide to put it on sale might help?
The distribution setup is just a nightmare man...you're tying the fate of two games together that couldn't be more polar opposite in terms of target audience - sarcasstic, nostalgic 90s gamer vs 12 yr old girl...so your pitting the market forces against one another over your game, and it certainly doesn't help that you wont identify the ip or its creator - it's destined to bomb, and drag whatever you tie it to down with it, unless the two ips would reach the same sorts of people naturally.
I think patching it into one game is a narrow way to go, man. Crawford should patch it into bunches of games. It could be hidden in subliminal updates across the industry, and he could take a royalty on analytics data about how many times the patch gets accessed. Booyah...exponential growth, for a seemingly infinite period...new year, new games, new patch.
Perhaps separating it from its current host, so they both become separate games?
Then giving owners of the fairy game a copy of frog fractions 2 as a separate entity. That way it at least gains better brand recognition on Steam from people who might remember something about that game when seeing the title.
I would rather not have 5 copies of the same game on my hard drive from various indie games.
aljowen I think he's talking about people like myself. I saw the price point and put it on my wish list. its a game I want to try but there are other, cheaper games that I would buy first. if this went on 50% sale is buy it today.
I would assume there probably aren't a whole lot of people such as yourself compared to the number of people who were aware of frog fractions.
The indie game space is a drop in the pond compared to mainstream gaming, dilute that further to people who have heard of frog fractions, then dilute that down to the number of people who have heard of the second one. Within that you have the people who did buy it, which wasn't enough to make a profit, never mind fund a sequel. Even if at launch it sat at 50% of people purchasing and 50% waiting for a sale what are the chances that they are still interested in the game after this length of time?
Not to mention that many publications didn't think much of the game either, which further hurts the games chances to succeed within the already small group of people who have heard of it.
Perhaps with video's such as this one publicising the game it will be able to gain enough traction to be commercially successful. Even though I didn't play the series (watched a lets play of the first and didn't bother with the second) I do hope the creator is able to justify future game endeavours, he sounds like a guy with a lot of cool ideas with potential.
I reeeeeeeally don't think he's that concerned about money. I mean, anyone who even knows what money is knows that his chosen distribution method is a disaster. I think he's much more likely making a point by going the route he has.
9:01 "(inaudible)" is supposed to be EGA.
15:35 "(inaudible)" is supposed to be parlance.
My god, i'm about half way though this and this guy is absolutely insane! What an amazing mind to come up with these completely absurd concepts... Just finished watching.. Think I might have just experienced the unreleased Frog Fractions 3. O_O
Great video
Super excited for the upcoming spelunky video
Head's up. Frog Fractions 2 collector's edition is on Limited Run Games right now!
Everything about this documentary is cool.
Really great documentary
Frog Fractions 2 should have been just an actual educational game where you learn fractions with a frog.
Another well put together doc! I always find it disheartening that someone who has given most of their ideas and talent away for free later asks for a little compensation on a project and people don't op to help them out. It's odd because if you played frog factions a few times, followed the ARG and didn't kickstart the game or buy it when it was available... It just seems weird to me to not throw them some cash.
Damn I had no idea there even was a Frog Fractions 2 and to hide it in another game, that's pretty insane!
I never heard about these games before until LRG did their physical release for it. This is seriously awesome, but ARG stuff is way too over my head to ever be able to participate. Awesome and hilarious!
Just got the physical release of this gem, very interesting video!
Really loved that ending
THAT ENDING.
Very cool idea! Nifty!
looks like another game I'm going to try. Good vid
...Crawford, I love you.
This is one of those things that makes me feel like I don't have a sense of humour...
What a piece of art!
I beat this game twice, and I still didn't find some of these games...
Glitterfinger the kitten mitten is on my steam wishlist now.
FROG FRACTIONS 3 OUT NOW!
He should do a patreon for hiding games in other games :D
Participating on a mystery!
Woo, did it before it became public! \o/
And I thought the Master Man ARG in Battlefield 1 was ridiculous.
Yeah I really think there should have atleast been a frog.
good goth, what an incredible story
man that ending
What an admirable oddball.
Not too in to this "meta" stuff in games the past couple years, but shit... this guy went all out and did it really well.
This story is kinda beautiful. I'm gonna go buy the game.
The Glimmer game looks like Craft the World with pixies.
Maybe the real Frog Fractions 3 was the friends we made along the way
16:11 I love frogs.
Find the devs of Space Station 13 and ask them about mystery.