No! It's about singing another melody than playing. What does she mean in THIS video HERE with singing an playing at the same time IMEDIATELY without of practicing or thinking of the melody before?
I can see why a musician would find this lesson helpful, I'm actually frustrated again in my quest to find a melody in my head. I've never had any musical training. I used to joke that I was born with two left ears. Actually, my singing nurtured my life as a comic, since I could make my brothers laugh at church, and they would get into trouble. Choir teachers told me to move my lips and never make a sound. And when I signed up for a singing for beginners class, as I was trying to develop a stage voice, I was devastated when the teacher asked if it wasn't too late to be reimbursed at the first lesson. It was. She apologized, but I was already devastated. Now I've started playing the piano, but I think my past experiences are holding me back. I've got a patient and a friend who is a piano professor at our local conservatory, and his comments are priceless. He also says I need to sing...but it's hard since I have to make sure my neighbors aren't around! BTW here is my video for exercises for low back, as well as treating shoulders, arms and hands. th-cam.com/video/tK9sc0ckSpw/w-d-xo.html
I enjoyed that “random mess”. Thanks for the lesson. Looking to improve improv on electric; this is spot on what I was looking for and more. I will never buy one but I love the double bass. 😊
It's a joy to see a clear confirmation of a process l tried over the years. Cuz other than the rhythm thing l always try to make little dialogues with vocals and other instruments. It's not an easy process unless you come from the same planet as Pino Palladino😂 anyway good tips here👍bless
@ 42.."Thank goodness we all play the bass because it is the best instrument!" Ha ha! I also like & play other instruments, but consider the bass to be the coolest of them...!! This was very interesting. Going to try it.
@@DiscoverDoubleBass it wasn't. Wasn't a good time in his life during that time in the early/mid 90s. Fortunately now he's in a better head space, but back then it was pretty intense...
Good explanations! I'll have to try the singing exercise maybe it will be helpful. I usually just listen to a song and match it up by ear, but have always been told I should try to sing what I'm listening to and match the bass to my voice.
Wonderful lesson! Thanks so much for the work! With respect to you all, may I suggest listening to Oteil Burbridge? He used to take bass solos and sing it as well. Some of his stuff from The Aquarium Rescue Unit was very complex to play, let along sing.
Thanks Katie, I found this simple concept enlightening. I can play virtually any song with the bass but... I need to have the tabs at least in front of me, the chords (I.e IrealB), so that I can play these chord notes, on any song, accompanying it. Problem is that without the tabs I can' t play. I want to try now, slowly, your advice, to test if with a song I don't have the tabs but I can think of the notes, by singing them I can accompany a tune. Thanks !
Muscle memory has no favorites! You have proved that your fingers go where you are SEEING a tab (using your EYES). Likewise, you can retrain your fingers to go where you HEAR (using your EARS) your voice singing the pitches. It will take work and might be a slow as molasses process but you can switch over.
Great advice, but what if you can’t sing in tune? My teacher’s always telling me to sing during practise, but if I open my mouth to sing, for example, an A, it’s not an A that comes out.
A great lesson but I'll let myself to disagree with the beginning: it *does* matter wether you play bass or keys - not only in terms of technique - strictly the instrument and the way of "common" use of the particular instrument makes your brain functioning in certain "different" way. That's why even using a Moog (keys) instead of usual bass guitar (at least) triggers the certain "way of thinking" - because our neurology :) I am a huge fan of your content guys!
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but it might be useful. It's a lesson by Katie on singing and playing at the same time th-cam.com/video/cuX2w_XG0cA/w-d-xo.html
@@DiscoverDoubleBass No! It's about singing another melody than playing. What does she mean in THIS video HERE with singing an playing at the same time IMEDIATELY without of practicing or thinking of the melody before?
This sing then play practice is manageable over minor or major key center tunes like Autumn leaves and Beautiful love, but it's virtually impossible to do over tunes with lots of modulations like the bridge to Miss Jones, Blues for Alice, Stella.. How to approach those?
Don't understand: how shoud I sing together with playing immediately, if I didn't thougt about which tones I must play? My way so far is: *first* singing, *then* playing.
Our TH-cam lessons are not in a specific order and are all one-off topics. We do have our lessons organised by category here discoverdoublebass.com/lessons-library/ and offer step-by-step courses on our website.
Yeah ok, but hearing the root notes as the bassist on a gig when a tune gets called that you don't know is a different situation than singing melodies that you find/play on the bass at the same time. The pianist or the guitarist may or may not be diplomatic by giving you roots so you can hear as the bassist what the changes are. The real ear training question for the bassist is ; " How do we develop the ability to hear the BOTTOM of the chords as they are going by??"
In that lesson, the student is supposed to be able to recognize or sing the 3rd or the 7th of a chord, that implies he already has a good ear. That lesson does not help a person who needs ear training. Sorry for that, but this video is intended for good 'ears' that don't need ear training 😂
It does feel like it's going from 0 to 60 on the ear training. I've always struggled with internal pitch and singing, even though I can do all kinds of other relative pitch work well enough. Starting with simple pentatonic melodies is a good place to start, and I hope her actual course has a more reasonable starting place like that.
We've had a few questions about singing and playing bass at the same time. Here's a lesson to help with that th-cam.com/video/cuX2w_XG0cA/w-d-xo.html
No! It's about singing another melody than playing. What does she mean in THIS video HERE with singing an playing at the same time IMEDIATELY without of practicing or thinking of the melody before?
An answer from herself would be kind.
A short lesson that gives us bassists a ton of productive work!😊 00:42 right on!
1:29 is a nugget of gold along with this entire video, thanks for sharing your gift!
A terrific lesson - many thanks! I'm singing my intervals as I type this...
Glad it was helpful! 😃
Omg! 2:22 😮👏😍
Ikr😧😧👀shes scary
Very important lesson. That thing with a brain. Brain is our main instrument!
I can see why a musician would find this lesson helpful, I'm actually frustrated again in my quest to find a melody in my head. I've never had any musical training. I used to joke that I was born with two left ears. Actually, my singing nurtured my life as a comic, since I could make my brothers laugh at church, and they would get into trouble. Choir teachers told me to move my lips and never make a sound. And when I signed up for a singing for beginners class, as I was trying to develop a stage voice, I was devastated when the teacher asked if it wasn't too late to be reimbursed at the first lesson. It was. She apologized, but I was already devastated. Now I've started playing the piano, but I think my past experiences are holding me back. I've got a patient and a friend who is a piano professor at our local conservatory, and his comments are priceless. He also says I need to sing...but it's hard since I have to make sure my neighbors aren't around!
BTW here is my video for exercises for low back, as well as treating shoulders, arms and hands.
th-cam.com/video/tK9sc0ckSpw/w-d-xo.html
I enjoyed that “random mess”. Thanks for the lesson. Looking to improve improv on electric; this is spot on what I was looking for and more. I will never buy one but I love the double bass. 😊
Great for any player
I usually hum along with the singer a bit, and that makes it much easier for me to find the key. Good advice.
Awesome lesson!!! Playing what you sing makes so much sense!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Katie, Thank You!
Wow! Best tip ever!
It IS the best instrument.
I can attest to this method, from learning scales and transpositions.
Yes Katie you are right the bass is the best 😁👍.
It's a joy to see a clear confirmation of a process l tried over the years. Cuz other than the rhythm thing l always try to make little dialogues with vocals and other instruments. It's not an easy process unless you come from the same planet as Pino Palladino😂 anyway good tips here👍bless
Some great ideas. Thanks
@ 42.."Thank goodness we all play the bass because it is the best instrument!" Ha ha! I also like & play other instruments, but consider the bass to be the coolest of them...!! This was very interesting. Going to try it.
Glad you enjoyed it. I loved that bit too! :-)
I'm going to try and apply this to the _other_ bass.
Yeah I do not play bass at all but I watched the whole thing cuz idk curiosity? It's just fascinating hah
great, thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you very much for the great video, I'll try it right away, so far I can only immediately identify the key of "C-Jam Blues" :-)
Thanks a lot amazing lesson
This is a great place to start, thank you so much!!
Amazing lesson ! Thanks
subscribed, appreciate this direct and succinct instruction
years ago my bass tutor, Jerry Jemmot told me the same thing about singing the notes as you play...
That's awesome. Studying with Jerry Jemmott must have been amazing. What a cool player.
@@DiscoverDoubleBass it wasn't. Wasn't a good time in his life during that time in the early/mid 90s. Fortunately now he's in a better head space, but back then it was pretty intense...
Brilliantly communicated!!
Good explanations! I'll have to try the singing exercise maybe it will be helpful. I usually just listen to a song and match it up by ear, but have always been told I should try to sing what I'm listening to and match the bass to my voice.
Simply wow! Thank you for the seed. Awesome sounding bass, too! What strings?- looked quite flex.
Spirocore Weich 👍
I love Katie ❤😍😚
Great advice
Great advice! 👏👏👏
Wonderful lesson! Thanks so much for the work! With respect to you all, may I suggest listening to Oteil Burbridge? He used to take bass solos and sing it as well. Some of his stuff from The Aquarium Rescue Unit was very complex to play, let along sing.
Great!
Thanks Katie, I found this simple concept enlightening. I can play virtually any song with the bass but... I need to have the tabs at least in front of me, the chords (I.e IrealB), so that I can play these chord notes, on any song, accompanying it.
Problem is that without the tabs I can' t play. I want to try now, slowly, your advice, to test if with a song I don't have the tabs but I can think of the notes, by singing them I can accompany a tune. Thanks !
Muscle memory has no favorites! You have proved that your fingers go where you are SEEING a tab (using your EYES). Likewise, you can retrain your fingers to go where you HEAR (using your EARS) your voice singing the pitches. It will take work and might be a slow as molasses process but you can switch over.
great! Now i just need the double bass 🥲
Great advice, but what if you can’t sing in tune? My teacher’s always telling me to sing during practise, but if I open my mouth to sing, for example, an A, it’s not an A that comes out.
I have students plywood bass, it’s time to change strings. What brand and type do you recommend it to buy?
KT discusses strings in this interview: discoverdoublebass.com/interview/katie-thiroux-bass-gear
A great lesson but I'll let myself to disagree with the beginning: it *does* matter wether you play bass or keys - not only in terms of technique - strictly the instrument and the way of "common" use of the particular instrument makes your brain functioning in certain "different" way. That's why even using a Moog (keys) instead of usual bass guitar (at least) triggers the certain "way of thinking" - because our neurology :)
I am a huge fan of your content guys!
Great point!
It would be fantastic if you did a video on how to develop the skill of singing the vocal melody at the same time as the playing of the bass.
Yes! There is something not clear in my mind...
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but it might be useful. It's a lesson by Katie on singing and playing at the same time th-cam.com/video/cuX2w_XG0cA/w-d-xo.html
@@DiscoverDoubleBass No! It's about singing another melody than playing. What does she mean in THIS video HERE with singing an playing at the same time IMEDIATELY without of practicing or thinking of the melody before?
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This sing then play practice is manageable over minor or major key center tunes like Autumn leaves and Beautiful love, but it's virtually impossible to do over tunes with lots of modulations like the bridge to Miss Jones, Blues for Alice, Stella.. How to approach those?
Sing what you play, use the open strings as a reference to try and determine the key of a song you don't know.
Don't understand: how shoud I sing together with playing immediately, if I didn't thougt about which tones I must play? My way so far is: *first* singing, *then* playing.
Fondamental, chanter pour faire chanter son instrument. Belle leçon.
I would love to see her and Aimee Nolte. Do a jam a clinic a lesson a concert anything
Had exact same thought
I'm trying to find your lessons in order...? Is there an order list somewhere for your videos? Thank you.
Our TH-cam lessons are not in a specific order and are all one-off topics. We do have our lessons organised by category here discoverdoublebass.com/lessons-library/ and offer step-by-step courses on our website.
Thank you.
This is cool, would it work on electric bass?
Absolutely. :-)
Subscribed , because I've got a brain 🙏
That was legit
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Study piano, guitar and write songs. That’ll put you miles ahead
Yeah ok, but hearing the root notes as the bassist on a gig when a tune gets called that you don't know is a different situation than singing melodies that you find/play on the bass at the same time. The pianist or the guitarist may or may not be diplomatic by giving you roots so you can hear as the bassist what the changes are. The real ear training question for the bassist is ; " How do we develop the ability to hear the BOTTOM of the chords as they are going by??"
Play what you are hearing on your mind, as whistling under the shower
In that lesson, the student is supposed to be able to recognize or sing the 3rd or the 7th of a chord, that implies he already has a good ear. That lesson does not help a person who needs ear training. Sorry for that, but this video is intended for good 'ears' that don't need ear training 😂
It does feel like it's going from 0 to 60 on the ear training. I've always struggled with internal pitch and singing, even though I can do all kinds of other relative pitch work well enough. Starting with simple pentatonic melodies is a good place to start, and I hope her actual course has a more reasonable starting place like that.
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great job