A Roman Road, a Roman Temple and a Romano-British River Name: Kingston Deverill, “Defereal”, Wilts
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- These history walk videos are about the English landscape in and around the south west of England (though I make the odd foray into Wales). I often use ancient charters (such as Saxon charters) to give me insight into the way the landscape was viewed in the past.
But it is not the Saxons that interest me the most (though they do) but the prehistoric world and its ancient monuments, trackways and ditches.
#Archaeology #oldenglishcharters #antiquarians #historywalks #britishhistory
![CAMPปลิ้น | EP.83[1/2] เปิดแคมป์หลอนต้อนรับ 2 ตัวพ่อแห่งวงการผี!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2uPuHYHgwiI/mqdefault.jpg)
Historic England have some odd views about the route that crossed here that went North South (Badbury to Bath). They quote Margary in a listing, as evidence for a specific route, however Margary simple states: "We just don't know". Suffice to say when I highlighted this, i was told to go away.
Thanks for mentioning and seeing Allotment Fox I have now subscribed to his channel.
I had a brief look but nothing, though there is plenty on the road to Salisbury. The rest of the Roman in the area I will cover on my next video. Thank you for the plug, btw, my figures have exploded in 3 hours. I reported a ring ditch next to another ring ditch and the archæologists couldn’t see it. I recommended Specsavers
Thanks for the channel tip Paul. I still love your channel too though.
Hi. New subscriber here. Sent by Paul Whitewick. I think I’m going find your channel very interesting. I love history like this because as you know, the devil is in the detail.
All the fine print is held hostage by a Russian hacker. But is it his fault if we have relegated all the fine detail it to an archive? Thanks for watching
same here
Me too
Great to have some background to the names in my area -Thank you
A wonderful historical video, fascinating. I love your take of everything. We have an allotment it’s essential these days.
it is and because no one will suffer the starvation wages of agriculture it is (I feel) the only sustainable way to organically grow. I think they should free up any unused space for allotments and give us our waste they have c9mposted, a lot of social problems will disappear. The only problem is that growing food is a hard skill to learn with all the disasters that suddenly befall your plot every year
@@AllotmentFox There is so much waste land, the Manor House’s had their waste land which you could build hovels and grow food on if you were lucky. We need to teach people how to grow food, cook, make pickles do canning etc too.
Why have I not found your channel before?! Fantastic stuff, also from Paul's channel
Thank you for your interesting information in your videos just subscribed.
Thank you Leonard
Really enjoyed that mate love what you do and look forward to following you on this journey of discovery. Top stuff.
Thanks, Jason
Getting a little addicted to your channel Mr Fox! Congrats on doubling your subs👍7:25 Bryn - hill, Cym (Combe) - valley. Maybe I need to brush up on my Chaucer too... 16:00 K (wood ash) P&N (chicken poo!) Galena, No can't revisit Latin or C+ yuk! Don't forget our Gold, Silver & Salt...
new sub, Paul Whitewick sent me, 😆
Thank you for watching and subbing!
Many thanks for your investigation it was really interesting to hear your views, I was reading a blog after the comment I made on your previous video, that seemed to indicate that "Cold Kitchen", could predate both Anglo Saxon and Roman, and be a Celtic phrase meaning "old wizard", its an intriguing area, and I think that route from Mere to Warminster was utilised a lot in antiquity :)
Deverill is at least Roman but it is not Latin, so probably ancient British (Celtic). i shall see if I can find this blog, but with place names where you have a choice between an interesting or a boring definition it is nearly always the boring one that is true (unfortunately).
@@IanDDalton yes found it. It didn’t cite any sources. All my Celtic names come from academics and I have no Celtic knowledge. If it was English I would have a punt. Thry also think it is Lang Beorghe and I would genuinely be 8nterested in hoe they pieced that together
@@AllotmentFox there is no right or wrong discussions when talking about things so long ago, but I think its great we can have now have the discussion :)
I was going to gently challenge your assumption about it being a Romano British temple and then the drone went up. Brilliant!
I hope your gloomy projection for the next 20 years is wrong, but I know you’re right about that too. At least it made me chuckle to think of the Russians trying to bring down some strategically important website and ending up frustrating an antiquarian in Wiltshire.
My wife is now laughing at my ridiculous opinions I love the way you reduced my heartfelt reactions to the international situation to absurdity in one perfectly poised sentence. I shall get my coat.
I was aware for months that parts of the British Library's website were down when I was looking for information on old books. Sometimes the Library of Congress or the Bibliothèque Nationale could help, but nothing replaces the BL.
Hello, have just discovered your channel, and as you deal with charters, I have a document from 1712 (during "the reign of Queen Anne") which is a land indenture, written on vellum with a seal. It is for a property located in Kent. Would you be interested in looking at it? I'd love to get the history or location of the place.
The home of 45% of known world reserves of potash is in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan. If you need some, we are likely to have some for you for a while.
Done. Where can we get our Phosphorous?
@@AllotmentFox On and under any statue in urban Britain, I'd say. Nearly as convenient as training the pigeons to fly down the rows as the crops are planted! 🤔🧐
Yes please😊
@@theoztreecrasher2647 let’s not look a gift horse in the mouth. Will someone tell Keir we’ve arranged a post-Brexit trade agreement with the Canadians on TH-cam?
@@AllotmentFox Chicken poo - I have lots! 🐔Very good for the garden - unfortunately chickens will eat everything! 🎃
Most interesting
Not sure if this helps your initial thoughts, but just in case it does.
Lower Pertwood, the estate map has a "Roman field" with a straight track to the East and to the West, but lost in the middle.
Clearly won't help with the latter.
where can I see the estate map? Pertwood is Celtic British (the first part) as well so I do want to have a look there
@@AllotmentFox I you give me an email address I will send a copy. Original is in at Pertwood Organic Farm
@@AllotmentFox Not sure why my first reply did not show up.
Will send you a copy of the map via Paul, or the original is at Pertwood Organic farm.
@@muddy11111 TH-cam tends to remove comments with links in them
@@AllotmentFox I have sent two mails (avoiding key words that might have upset youtube) to @pwhitewick with Pertwood in the title, and asked him to copy to you.
One is the map and the other the lidar.
It is part of a Roman Road on the 1880's OS map.
The Lidar looks very interesting. Please reply to one, so I know you have them.
ASChart has some pre 900ad
charter information. I've not really delved so can't comment on detail.
Which ideology is opposed to self-sufficiency on these islands? I would say it's the one that promotes outsourcing at almost all costs, as opposed to vertical integration. Outsourcing, "just in time" deliveries and all the rest started out as management fads in large industrial corporations, and became part of public policy when businessmen were brought in to give their wisdom to public services and government planners.
It has to be a mixed economy. Contracting is as British as roast beef and has been around since we have had records. Does it betray the country? No, it ensures rigour. Does it betray a working class that was trusting its employers to be honourable? Yes, I have and will fight it tooth and nail. For me the deciding factor is, will I be working for the same employer as I interviewed for? If it is no then they can take a running jump but I have no problem with commissioners contracting out from the start but commissioners can also use it as a disciplining tool for the labour market. I guess it comes down to fair treatment: an honest commissioner is fine, some of the so-and-so’s I’ve come across makes it bad.
Just listened today to a minister teaching about where is Tarshish which is mentioned a number of times in scripture. He shows solid evidence for it being the British Isles, both from scripture and historical documents. It comes from the name for tin.
the Bible is a fine, interesting historical document. unfortunately its scope is far from mine, though I did do a bit on a conversation between Solomon and a a Chaldean king recorded in Old English
My Bible scholarship isn't as good as it used to be but I'd say
1Ki 10:22
'For the king had at sea a navy of Tarshish with the navy of Hiram: once in three years came the navy of Tarshish, bringing gold, gems and silver, ivory, and apes and peacocks'.
pretty much rules out Britain.
The internet was an asymmetric blunder. It reduced space all around the world, and enabled sharing of information. This is all good. But it also digitized all of our systems and gave adversaries thousands of miles away full access to our society and systems.
Same with the ecology question. You can have an efficient centralized system or an "inefficient" decentralized system. But a decentralized system is almost impossible to break by its very nature.
It depends on your mode of action. Insurrectionary groups now go for decentralised systems to prevent damage cascading around the group and that was a lesson fumbled by both a certain Middle Eastern organisation fighting Israel and a certain organisation fighting the British state. Both saturated with British and Israeli contacts and agents. A state that intends to win a war is much better off unifying so it can concentrate and direct power but only as long as it can’t be infiltrated. if you have a trojan horse in a high up position its all over. Bear in mind British Intelligence was infiltrated by Marxists that hid their views for twenty or more years, rising through the ranks. The US stopped trusting us with information after that. But the concentration of power coming from command and control is highly beneficial. Note, not all Marxists are traitors, but these particular ones were
@@AllotmentFox I once saw the remake of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Gary Oldman and its the only movie I've ever seen where at the end I had literally no clue what happened at any point in the movie. Everyone was raving how brilliant it was. Thats when I realized I was a midwit :)
@@sirfranklloyd the books are excellent. I may reread them.
Sirf., you’re not the only one.😩
Countries, kingdoms and empires are generally undone from within. Carry on your research into History.
No matter how much we screw it up ourselves-the Romano-British were defiinitely the authors of their misfortune-it is never as bad as the results of invasion. Yes Christianity not paying its taxes and diverting money from heirs helped both the Goths and the Vikings but you would still have looked back on the good old days when the saddle-wearing beardies were annoying you before the Barbarians took over. Before the Second World War the Oxford Union of Students opposed war with Germany because they felt it was about British imperialism. Everyone just ignored them and they fought anyway. What we are hearing today is the same hot air
@@AllotmentFox That Oxford Union debate made headlines all around the world and convinced the man with a moustache that Britain would be a pushover. In a way it contributed to WWII, though you could also say that it led to his making a fatal miscalculation.
As someone who's been doing programming for 25 years, you're right that we're generally overcomplicating technology to the detriment of resilience. You're not quite right to say software used to be more secure - far from it! - you only need to remember CGI scripts or PHP's magic globals to consider how far we've come. But our software stacks are so much larger that the individual security improvements are cancelled out. Blame (venture) capitalism IMO. We'll never be a proper engineering discipline while they're running the show.
Maybe its rose-tinted glasses but yes with a Perl script you could take over the server. But if it was securely written there was no way in. I remember stripping out anything from a text field that could in any way instruct anything to do anything. And admins were suspicious as hell about the svripts you were writing. I don’t remember big institutions being hacked the way they are now. Do you think a simple off the shelf content management system on UNIX in 1998 was less secure than whatever they use now?
> Do you think a simple off the shelf content management system on UNIX in 1998 was less secure than whatever they use now?
No, because what we use today is 100,000 layers of javascript tooling
But if you compared something of similar complexity - say, one of today's popular static site generators like Hugo - you'll find the 1998 version vulnerable to SQL injections, shell injections, etc, that just aren't possible today because no-one is manually escaping SQL or shell arguments any more. That XKCD about bobby tables is hard to explain to young developers now.
Hugo is kinda huge actually, there are other static site generators that would make better examples
To be clear, I agree with your main point about the state of software engineering being complete shit. But it's not because we're writing worse code, it's a bit more complicated IMO.
@@stormx2827 it was possible to understand every line of code server-side and client-side in my day. I was terrible, mind, but I was never hacked. The first time someone demonstrated SQL injection to me I went “oh!” And never forgot it.