This was such a good conversation. A lot of Christians aren't reading the bible they are just taking someone else's interpretation and understanding and running with it. I wish some of them would stop acting like they're interviewing to be the bouncer outside of heaven.
I love this conversation. It is always healthy to examine your beliefs and find where they are rooted. The fact of the matter is we ALL have been endotrinated in every facet of society...church, school, health, system, ect
This is facts, the reality is we are culturally condition, influenced by our internal and external societal norms, survival and acceptance. Everything can have its beauty, joy and hope but there are other that will use any aspect within our lives to benefit themselves or or particular group. Good thing is that these discussions, show that some of us have grown. #WeMove🙌
I wish people would stop trying to push their Christian beliefs on Kev & Angel!!! They've made it clear that complaining about the way they choose to live isn't going to change their faith!!! If you don't like, stop following them!!!! We needed this podcast today!!! Especially the music break!!! RIP Quincy Jones 🙏🏾
@@hismom5600you Christians definitely push you beliefs onto others. Following your religion it’s right or wrong. Like damn give ppl a choice to live how they please
Y’all affirmed me so hard with the first topic 😭 I feel like an outlier in my Apostolic Christian family and it can be overwhelming but seeing you successful and happy in God encourages me to continue understanding who God is to me as a happily queer black heathen
As someone who didn’t grow up in the church, it is sooo interesting to hear about yalls experiences and how it’s influenced you. I hope you enjoyed your drink and continue to do so in the future 🥂
Kev and Angel, this segment blessed my life. I was trying to live a "perfect" life according to my belief of what a good Christian should be, it led me to depression. Praise God He got me out of that! I challenged things i believed and some were false because I wanted to appear holy like the Pharisees and it was not truly who God made me to be... So ya'll are speaking truth and I appreciate ya'll!
Both of my grandfathers were pastors and had churches but I only grew up under one because the other died before I was born. I also had a favorite Heathen cousin that was glued to me at the hip, our names even rhymed. When I say EVERYTIME y’all say ‘Back Pew’, it takes me right back to childhood when me and her would be on the back pew and she would be ACTING A FOOL!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I used to be in trouble a large percentage of my childhood because of her!…… #GoodTimes 😎💜
I feel like we all had the same childhood. I'm grateful for the basic knowledge I received that has carried me through life. However, I'm glad I matured as a Christian and learned how to enjoy life with no condemnation.
I really appreciate you all being so transparent about your personal religious development. I experienced a lot of the same and had to relearn how to be a Christian in the spirit that Jesus intended, with love and acceptance of myself and others.
This kind of episode was needed for TODAY!!!!!! I don't know if you all planned it this way, but excellent job! Thank you! Definitely cheered me up🥴😩🥰❤️🙏🏼
This might be one of my favorite discussions from y'all. I grew up Muslim until I was 7yrs, from a mother that grew up in the church. She told me to choose my own belief. I've been learning and challenging many different teachings ever since. I see plenty good and plenty bad from various minds and books. It's important to understand the roots of teachings. For what I believe in shapes how I interact with others and put out content. My partner (we are da gay lol), who grew up in the church, has a mom that preaches. But she also challenges what doesnt make sense while teaching me things I never grew up with. All that's to say, a true open mind can learn, understand and respect others decisions and still walk in their belief. But if you dont understand or feel some type of way, challenge your thinking to see why it is. I think that's closer to being Christ like. Be well, peace & blessings. 💙🤙🏾🦉
This is by far my Favorite episode! As someone who grew up in a strict Muslim community, this conversation is truly important & beautiful! You both spoke facts!
Sin doesn’t evolve though. No, Im not saying drinking is sinful being drunk is. There are also some other things people do that don’t fit in this category!
This episode really touched me. As a fellow church kid turned margarita drinker, I just wanted to leap through my screen and hug you both multiple times throughout this episodee. Thanks for keeping it real.
I so enjoy you all! My brother and I were literally back pew kids. Our parents were 'functional alcoholics', they had the most turned up parties on Friday and Saturday nights and thumped us on the church bus on Sunday mornings! Talk about growing up CONFLICTED AND CONFUSED!!! The church members never asked or knew where our parents where.
The conversation in this episode really healed something in me as a church kid who has been perceived as a “heathen” because I wanted to challenge my belief system. I am so grateful for Kev and Angel being able to put that into words. “We” are acting as the people in the Bible that Jesus spoke about.
I went to the reunion tour and had a beer and margarita....I paid for them floor seats in front of the stage, bought an outfit, paid parking, and gas the lord know I worked hard for every sip as I sang my behind off so bye..Kev don't sweat it
As someone who's been traumatized by Christianity, Kevin got very sound advice. If more churches approached Christianity in the way Kevin was advised to (with context and completion) , it would be more of a safe space for people to be.
He brought up parents drinking at Disney on Ice & let me tell yall! I definitely needed a drink when I took my child 😂 she had a blast & I was so stressed by the end of it all 💀
Not to G-d there is. Sin is sin. Tho I donot believe that it is a sin to have alcohol, the sin is being drunk. let’s not measure sin by our own understanding. According to the Lord it is all the same.
I don't drink due to aligning with what God wants me to do. I wasn't an alcoholic but I just wanted to be clear and sober minded. Now when people come to my house they are free to drink with no convictions. I have liquor in my house.
I grew up( still am) in the Nation of Islam. I can def empathize with y’all as far as the pressure you put on yourself to be (appear) righteous. I’ve grown to give myself grace for my shortfalls of the law of God. And continue to strive to do good works and clean myself up over time.
Quincy Jones’ Secret Garden song was so well done! Seamless chemistry between all of the artists, it felt like everyone’s song, not like a bunch of artists together. So good!
The Expectation To Be Perfect Is What It is & When You Finally Let It Go..They Get Mad .But You Feel So Much Better Don't Ask Me How I Know..Cause I Know
Well this has been THEE nostalgic episode! The 'Tomorrow' of it all (performed that with my class at the school Spring Festival of '90), Limewire/Kazaa/Bearshare (set the home PC ablaze summer of '98), 'Ask Jeeves' (I loved that cute butler icon, Google who?), 'Mavis Beacon' (Office Procedures class '96-'98), no 'Blockbuster' on the islands, but we did have 'Super Video' and 'Juggies Video' for the good ole rentals back in the 80s/90s'/00s. Good times!📼💿🖥💽
Hating sin does not mean you hate and condemn people. I think you both need to think deeper and ask yourselves if God is at the centre of your hearts and desires
Loving Churchy, you Kev!! Drank that cuz Jesus turned water into wine and let it flow. Love this Unruly Cousins pod!!!❤❤❤ We all have to work on our relationship with the Lord,Kev said it,Amen.
Speaking of drinking. The men in our family get the drinking gene. The women in our family get the obesity gene. Well, yesterday i drunk some wine and ate a 8 piece of chicken because i saw the election results and I just felt like it.😢
I just talked about the Christian bubble and how there is such a small square of communal sameness and pressure and shaming. Exposure to others is really important.
I purposely missed the live so I could have this as a pick me up today just in case
you and me both babe 🤝🏾
Same!😢
That's a great way to look at it. I was bummed I missed it again. Thank you for the positive perspective.❤
Smart
Same
God KNEW we'd need an almost TWO HOUR HTT today! 😩😢
THANK YOU JESUS 🙌🏾🙏🏾 & Kev 🎬 Angel 👼🏾 & Josh📸/"Spanish Guy" 🇲🇽🕺🏻
Facts!😂 I needed this today!
This was such a good conversation. A lot of Christians aren't reading the bible they are just taking someone else's interpretation and understanding and running with it. I wish some of them would stop acting like they're interviewing to be the bouncer outside of heaven.
They swear thery are the DeBo of the gates.
🎯🎯🎯🎯
This was so optimistic “if you keep living living you don’t know what you might do!” Cmon somebody
I love this conversation. It is always healthy to examine your beliefs and find where they are rooted. The fact of the matter is we ALL have been endotrinated in every facet of society...church, school, health, system, ect
indoctrinated
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This is facts, the reality is we are culturally condition, influenced by our internal and external societal norms, survival and acceptance. Everything can have its beauty, joy and hope but there are other that will use any aspect within our lives to benefit themselves or or particular group. Good thing is that these discussions, show that some of us have grown. #WeMove🙌
As a church kid, I been watching Kev since I was like 14 (i’m 24 now). The way he’s still keeps God first is dope very inspiring!
He’s gotten lukewarm but he’s very entertaining.
You can’t keep God first but live like the world 🙏🏽
@@Destrey34 You heard NOTHING of what they said. I h&te that for you. Smh
@@Destrey34how is he living of this world? What is he doing that’s away from God
This convo right here... Convo right here... THIS is why I rock with y'all! 👏🏾👏🏾 Really appreciate this talk (not being preached to, but spoken to).
As a kid who was fasting in high school like Angel 🙌🏾😂😂😂 I'm so glad so many of us are lightening up as we age. Life is for living!
I wish people would stop trying to push their Christian beliefs on Kev & Angel!!! They've made it clear that complaining about the way they choose to live isn't going to change their faith!!! If you don't like, stop following them!!!!
We needed this podcast today!!! Especially the music break!!! RIP Quincy Jones 🙏🏾
Push beliefs or suggest a standard? Truth doesn't automatically equal hating or control.
@@hismom5600you Christians definitely push you beliefs onto others. Following your religion it’s right or wrong. Like damn give ppl a choice to live how they please
@hismom5600 who's standard? Obviously, it's not theirs!
Y’all affirmed me so hard with the first topic 😭 I feel like an outlier in my Apostolic Christian family and it can be overwhelming but seeing you successful and happy in God encourages me to continue understanding who God is to me as a happily queer black heathen
As someone who didn’t grow up in the church, it is sooo interesting to hear about yalls experiences and how it’s influenced you. I hope you enjoyed your drink and continue to do so in the future 🥂
Kev has enjoyed a manyyyyyy drinks in the last few years.......😂😂
Kev and Angel, this segment blessed my life. I was trying to live a "perfect" life according to my belief of what a good Christian should be, it led me to depression. Praise God He got me out of that! I challenged things i believed and some were false because I wanted to appear holy like the Pharisees and it was not truly who God made me to be... So ya'll are speaking truth and I appreciate ya'll!
Christianity 101 and Black people 202. I can't!😂😂😂
No lies detected
This conversation was goooooood yall. People needed this word! Lead with looooooove. ❤
This conversation was beautiful and incredible. Thank you for sharing
Thank ya’ll for this episode we needed this pick me up or something to put our mind on something different.
The song “Tomorrow” makes me weep like a baby every time I heard it! Those babies sung to my soul! 😢
This episode is why I started following kev 5 years ago… Angel came and they made the perfect match. Talking that talk!! 🔥🔥🔥
That Quincy documentary is my favorite documentary of all time. So well produced! I'm a big documentary lover and it's really one of the best ever.
Definitely need this right now..
Needed a pick me up today
Me too😂😂😂 This is right on time!
Chile don’t we all
We alllllllll did😅
We’ll be okay. Kev is about to eat pumpkin pie any way so be prepared for more disappointment lol
Listen
Both of my grandfathers were pastors and had churches but I only grew up under one because the other died before I was born. I also had a favorite Heathen cousin that was glued to me at the hip, our names even rhymed. When I say EVERYTIME y’all say ‘Back Pew’, it takes me right back to childhood when me and her would be on the back pew and she would be ACTING A FOOL!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I used to be in trouble a large percentage of my childhood because of her!…… #GoodTimes 😎💜
I feel like we all had the same childhood. I'm grateful for the basic knowledge I received that has carried me through life. However, I'm glad I matured as a Christian and learned how to enjoy life with no condemnation.
Thanks for dropping this today🎉
I really appreciate you all being so transparent about your personal religious development. I experienced a lot of the same and had to relearn how to be a Christian in the spirit that Jesus intended, with love and acceptance of myself and others.
This kind of episode was needed for TODAY!!!!!! I don't know if you all planned it this way, but excellent job! Thank you! Definitely cheered me up🥴😩🥰❤️🙏🏼
This might be one of my favorite discussions from y'all. I grew up Muslim until I was 7yrs, from a mother that grew up in the church. She told me to choose my own belief. I've been learning and challenging many different teachings ever since. I see plenty good and plenty bad from various minds and books. It's important to understand the roots of teachings. For what I believe in shapes how I interact with others and put out content.
My partner (we are da gay lol), who grew up in the church, has a mom that preaches. But she also challenges what doesnt make sense while teaching me things I never grew up with.
All that's to say, a true open mind can learn, understand and respect others decisions and still walk in their belief. But if you dont understand or feel some type of way, challenge your thinking to see why it is. I think that's closer to being Christ like. Be well, peace & blessings. 💙🤙🏾🦉
Needed this after waking up to those results 🤦🏾♀️
This is by far my Favorite episode! As someone who grew up in a strict Muslim community, this conversation is truly important & beautiful! You both spoke facts!
Wow I feel like the first conversation is exactly what I needed. Thank you for your vulnerability!
33:48 I have evolved, and I'm still evolving. Me now vs me 10 years ago vs me 20 years ago are different people. Same vessel.
Sin doesn’t evolve though. No, Im not saying drinking is sinful being drunk is. There are also some other things people do that don’t fit in this category!
@dmajorx ok. Be blessed
This episode really touched me. As a fellow church kid turned margarita drinker, I just wanted to leap through my screen and hug you both multiple times throughout this episodee. Thanks for keeping it real.
We are all living the same life and had the same experience growing up. Both Kev and Angel's stories resonated with me today.
I so enjoy you all! My brother and I were literally back pew kids. Our parents were 'functional alcoholics', they had the most turned up parties on Friday and Saturday nights and thumped us on the church bus on Sunday mornings! Talk about growing up CONFLICTED AND CONFUSED!!! The church members never asked or knew where our parents where.
I needed this yall. We are all we got. ✊🏾
‘whats the accent?’
‘I’m just yelling.’
🥹😭😭😭
31:50 This whole conversation is so good. I think we could all be in a better place if we have these conversations routinely.
Thanks Angel, I needed your music today.
Y’all don’t even understand how much I needed to just laugh at stuff today. Thank you! 🩷
The conversation in this episode really healed something in me as a church kid who has been perceived as a “heathen” because I wanted to challenge my belief system. I am so grateful for Kev and Angel being able to put that into words. “We” are acting as the people in the Bible that Jesus spoke about.
I went to the reunion tour and had a beer and margarita....I paid for them floor seats in front of the stage, bought an outfit, paid parking, and gas the lord know I worked hard for every sip as I sang my behind off so bye..Kev don't sweat it
🎉 Also is no one gonna talk about the fact that holy women invented beer to protect the community from waterborne sickness...😂
As someone who's been traumatized by Christianity, Kevin got very sound advice. If more churches approached Christianity in the way Kevin was advised to (with context and completion) , it would be more of a safe space for people to be.
We don’t need to approach Christianity according to “KEV”
We need to approach Christianity through God and His Word
@Destrey34 I don't need to approach it all, but thanks for the input
Thank you for commenting on my TikTok about Here’s the thing Kev!! I have so many skits and scripts that made my day
He brought up parents drinking at Disney on Ice & let me tell yall! I definitely needed a drink when I took my child 😂 she had a blast & I was so stressed by the end of it all 💀
Religion vs Relationship. Great and insightful conversation. Tfs
I believe as Christians there are way more serious sins we need to be condemning like child molestation, political corruption and human trafficking.
Not to G-d there is. Sin is sin. Tho I donot believe that it is a sin to have alcohol, the sin is being drunk. let’s not measure sin by our own understanding. According to the Lord it is all the same.
Yeeessss Angel!! Optimistic is the Only way to be!🙌🏾🙌🏾 Yall are really my cousins in my head and heart! Great Episode🎉❤
I absolutely love this episode!! Well I love ALL the episodes, but this one spoke to me even more.
I needed this HTT today Thank You!
THIS IS GOODT UNTO ME TUH'DAY!!! I appreciate the REAL conversation y'all are having 💜
I don't drink due to aligning with what God wants me to do. I wasn't an alcoholic but I just wanted to be clear and sober minded. Now when people come to my house they are free to drink with no convictions. I have liquor in my house.
Thank you for making me laugh today. God knows I needed it. Bless you both :) ...and Josh :)
I grew up( still am) in the Nation of Islam. I can def empathize with y’all as far as the pressure you put on yourself to be (appear) righteous. I’ve grown to give myself grace for my shortfalls of the law of God. And continue to strive to do good works and clean myself up over time.
really great stocking stuffer is hilarious Angel! I can’t 😂 thank y’all for this conversation.
I love you guys! Loved this episode! WE lost but Angel you spoke truth! We will survive this! ❤
This conversation gives me life! Keep living, you never know what you might accomplish if you keep trying new things.
This. Thank you both.
Early work day and get home to an almost two hour episode. Let's go
I almost shouted while watching this episode. My goodness 💃. Good episode!!!
I'm a Buddhist and I've been a supporter since I came across y'all. Yeah I grew up Christian, cut it after I was an adult
Damn right Kev don't feel bad for being a adult
Love Angel's hair
Quincy Jones’ Secret Garden song was so well done! Seamless chemistry between all of the artists, it felt like everyone’s song, not like a bunch of artists together. So good!
ANGEL!! Girl you brought back a whole memory. Lemmie go download Slim Calhoun!!
Yooo Invincible Fight Girl is a dope show Congrats Angel
Feel like I’ve been waiting my whole life for this full full! YASSSSS! Right on time after that wacky election!
Angelllll... from to leaving us with a word 🙌🏾🙌🏾 Love it💛💛
Saving this as one of my favs. Thank you
The Expectation To Be Perfect Is What It is & When You Finally Let It Go..They Get Mad .But You Feel So Much Better Don't Ask Me How I Know..Cause I Know
(HEATHEN) is killing me 😂
Bible talks about not being drunk, not able to make sound decisions, and keeping others who may not be able withstand from falling
Watched the first two episodes of fight girl and i absolutely love it 😍 congrats auntie Angel 😘 and uncle Tony !!!
This was a good episode and it gave me a lot to think about
Really enjoyed this episode
What Angel said about voting in person... is why they see me at EVERY primary and general election. 💁🏾♀️
Had to stop and go listen to to Tomorrow!!!
Came here for the relief 🙌🏾
Well this has been THEE nostalgic episode! The 'Tomorrow' of it all (performed that with my class at the school Spring Festival of '90), Limewire/Kazaa/Bearshare (set the home PC ablaze summer of '98), 'Ask Jeeves' (I loved that cute butler icon, Google who?), 'Mavis Beacon' (Office Procedures class '96-'98), no 'Blockbuster' on the islands, but we did have 'Super Video' and 'Juggies Video' for the good ole rentals back in the 80s/90s'/00s. Good times!📼💿🖥💽
I love y’all down. I’m late but this is on time.
Y’all did your good talking today! I love this podcast and today’s episode re-solidified it for me #Deconstructed but not #Denounced
I was patiently waiting for this upload.
Angels optimism is very inspiring so thank you so much
I love when you guys get serious! Because you really do speak the truth!❤
Hating sin does not mean you hate and condemn people. I think you both need to think deeper and ask yourselves if God is at the centre of your hearts and desires
Loving Churchy, you Kev!! Drank that cuz Jesus turned water into wine and let it flow. Love this Unruly Cousins pod!!!❤❤❤ We all have to work on our relationship with the Lord,Kev said it,Amen.
This episode is EXCELLENT!
Whewwwwwww!! Yall talking good!!
I was Kevin as child also, I had all the questions too! And I too got the recorded default response that didn't answer the question...smh!
Kevin clocking his 5 year old nephew got me crying 😂😂😂
i’m so grateful to have this thought at 29. getting to be a loving side of christianity that gets to go out in the world feels so good.
Secret garden is definitely my one! RIP Quincy 🙏🏾
Speaking of drinking. The men in our family get the drinking gene. The women in our family get the obesity gene. Well, yesterday i drunk some wine and ate a 8 piece of chicken because i saw the election results and I just felt like it.😢
I just talked about the Christian bubble and how there is such a small square of communal sameness and pressure and shaming. Exposure to others is really important.
What an awesome episode.❤
Tomorrow is my jam to this DAY ❤❤❤🥲🥲🥲
This was nothing but a word today!!!
Now they talking that talk now. Great conversation.
1:11:11 He's An On Time God 🙌
OMG congrats angel!! i wanted to see invincible fight girl but now i GOTTA see it! thats so cool!!
There is no greater hate than Christian love
This is a WORD!