@@Churchfront I would like to appreciate your work and commitment guys. I want you to recommend a sound mixing console that is best for our church and we are confused about whether Allen and Heath Qu 32 or Midas M32 sound mixing console. So please give us your recommendation and suggestions for these mixing consoles. Thank you.
Thoroughly impressive in every aspect. Churchfront has built up some great expertise as to what really works with some very nice features such as remote KVM connected computers, Dante networking, ultra-clean workstation setups and well organized, highly maintainable rack installations.
I've been in the Pro Audio industry for 40 years and I must say for a new audio install this has to be one of the sloppiest wiring jobs I've ever seen both in the room that holds the racks and on the stage.
I am looking for information to see if you do installs for other churches. I cannot find any info or contact information about this. Can you tell me if you guys do new installs, as well as looking at current systems and how to contact you. We in the last few years bought the SQ7 and have questions.
Background music is awesome! I have a quesiton, what software did you guys use to model the PA system? I am trying to do some similar for my church but I don't know what software to use to model and represent my PA system
Why you upgraded the switcher? It seems via the multiview that they have only 2 cameras and a few other gfx. I mean is not a space constraint as you have 2 racks which are clearly empty
Thank you for your work! Could you please help me? We use behringer Wing > Reaper on mac > NDI audio > ProPresenter on PC to stream to TH-cam. I noticed that when I go throug that route with a recorded sound, it's much more "full" and sounds better than when we do live broadcasting. We enforce 320 kbps in ProPresenter. I'm thinking that when doing live recording, the quality is being "eaten" somewhere, but I don't know where? Maybe it's worth transitionin to a different DAW? Please help! Maybe there are some other settings I should take care of?
@churchfront I would like to appreciate your works and commitment guys. And I want you to recommend me a sound mixing console which is best for our church and we are confused at choosing whether Allen and Heath Qu 32 or Midas M32 sound mixing console. So please give us your recommendation and suggestion from these mixing console. Thank you for your kindly response.
Roughly what was the cost of the entire install? We are looking to do some updates to our system so i was hoping to get some idea of what to look for. We have a similar sized building, maybe slightly bigger
I used to love these videos back in the day, but I think my biggest issue now is that at this point, all of them are basically carbon copies of one another. The beauty in Church tech is working with shoe string budgets and learning to get creative. You mention they are working with small budgets, but what is the benefit of utilizing say the 2/ME Constellation versus the 1/ME. Based off of the multi-view, they are only using 2 Camera inputs. I see maybe 2 for key & fill, 1 for Apple TV, 1 for confidence monitor, 1 for FOH GFX totaling 7 inputs. Now I'm happy to be wrong on my input count, but I just don't think you're being honest to your clients about practical needs. Also, you are really inhibiting serviceablily by flipping that Netgear AV switch like that. Granted, if it were more visible in FOH, sure lets keep it clean, but when in a separate room only accessed likely by technicians, who cares about aesthetics to that degree.
The problem is that nowdays "so called technicians" prefer aesthetics over functionality. They really want to have a clean rack to show to youtube with the latest and greatest tech. Same with the switcher, i don't think the church needed an updated model, they had plenty of room to grow with the old one.
@@checcouxI’m the production coordinator for a 7 campus church, all having different sizes congregations and with that different needs. While it would be nice to have the same thing at every campus, it’s not a practical or cost effective solution. For example, we use an Avantis at our 1,800 person campus while we use an X-32 at our 60 person campus. Our 200 - 500 person campuses use an SQ (varying from the SQ5, SQ6, and SQ7). We even use an XR18 for our smaller spaces. Point is, and this is not me trying to pat myself on the back, but I believe a good technician will meet the needs while still giving room for growth for the season.
2m/e gets more than twice the inputs/outputs and m/e for less than double the cost. plus alot of other updated features from blackmagic that their older switcher didn't have. This client has plans for adding many more cameras in the future. We putt in multiple sdi feeds on stage. The netgear comes with rear facing ports. we didn't flip it. Our goal is not to spec the cheapest solutions possible and neither is that our clients goals. We can definitely work with limited budgets when the limitiations are within reason. We believe Church AVL is the most important application of AVL gear/software, so yes we have other videos on the channel that unpack budget solutions for small churches/plants. But for larger churches with mature budgets, we are going to spec accordingly.
3 of those wireless mics is like $25,000...even with 500 people that's still $50 each person....I just don't understand the economics of this? How much are you talking in total for this update?
This is probably in the range of $200-250k with products and labor since it looks like an audio overhaul and partial video. You should be able to get three ULXD systems (a total of 12 mics) for about $15k. If a church really needs 12 wireless, then typically that is going to fit within their budget. That's not the most expensive option out there.
@@steve01010 if they say it seats 500 people then that would be a $400 to $500 investment from every person. Considering a number of those people will be from the same family or children...I just don't understand the economics of stuff like this?
@@peterthorogood7025 The way churches (and most anyone investing in equipment) approach the expense of things like this is how it plays out over time. Yes, $500 per person if you pay it off in one weekend, but no one would do that. If you get 10 years out of the equipment and you have 500 people attending each weekend, then a $250,000 investment comes out to 96 cents per person per weekend: $250,000 / (500 X 52 Weekends X 10 years). I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I don't think a family of 5 would have many complaints about contributing less than $5 per weekend for an A/V upgrade.
@@peterthorogood7025 Most organizations (not just churches) are going to consider the cost long term. If they can get 10 years out of this system, it comes out to a little less than $1 per person, per weekend (250,000 / (500 * 52 weeks * 10 years)). I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but just the reality of how the cost is approached.
But... Why cowboys? Jesus is not a cowboy. 1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
That drum kit alone is $8K here in Australia. Granted it’s a 500 seat church but still, that whole install has to be in the realm of over $100K. Have no idea how these churches afford it.
@@jeremythomas2865They do it here in the states because churches here are tax exempt for some reason. So random people start a "church" to avoid paying taxes. They then spend the money that should be used for the community on their own well being. It's a scam here
@@paytah3373 Not all churches claim tax exemption and some organizations that are tax exempt still choose to pay sales tax. The tax exemption discussion is important because it's not just churches. If you take away tax exempt status for churches, it's going to open up every charitable organization out there to be subject to taxes as well.
@@steve01010and more churches claim tax exempt than you think. Look at what happened in 2023 when the Mormon church was fined by the SEC for hiding 32 BILLION (with a B) in shell companies from their investment division. What kind of "church" has an investment division ?
My favorite video from your company so far. My church here in Sweden have done about 50% of what I saw in the video. I got quite a bit of inspiration. 🎤🎚️
The background western music is PERFECT lol. Great build!
Love how the background music gave big bluegrass vibes 😂 Great looking setup
Happy to see small churches growing.
Fun! literally just down the street from us- 2.2 miles. Glad to see it looks like they're doing well. ❤
Ok, done! What a great job you all did! And that cable management...nice!! What a clean installation, it looks incredible. Well done!
Thank you 🙏
@@Churchfront
I would like to appreciate your work and commitment guys. I want you to recommend a sound mixing console that is best for our church and we are confused about whether Allen and Heath Qu 32 or Midas M32 sound mixing console. So please give us your recommendation and suggestions for these mixing consoles. Thank you.
Is great.. wow I believe one day I will stand there and sing my song to God's glory
Thoroughly impressive in every aspect. Churchfront has built up some great expertise as to what really works with some very nice features such as remote KVM connected computers, Dante networking, ultra-clean workstation setups and well organized, highly maintainable rack installations.
That looks awesome 👏!
Congratulations to that church.
Cowboy church. Sign me up lolol. Would love to visit that place and I'm a black guy from New Jersey 😂😂😂
I wish I would have known yall were down the street from me in AZ! Awesome Job! Such a unique church love their pastor!
와우^^ 대단하네요!! 나중에 우리 교회도 이렇게 되길 기도합니다.
I've been in the Pro Audio industry for 40 years and I must say for a new audio install this has to be one of the sloppiest wiring jobs I've ever seen both in the room that holds the racks and on the stage.
The lack of strain relief along that run going to the rack drives me crazy.
That small rats nest will only grow into a bigger rats nest over time.
looking forward to this!!
The background music choice tho! 🤠 🐴 😂
Is KC here?😂
Hey so Luke, I think you were on my flight out of Tucson a few weeks ago. Now it makes sense why you were here!
ha that was different Arizona church!
@@Churchfront Oh nice! I had my family with me or I would have stopped to say hi
I am looking for information to see if you do installs for other churches. I cannot find any info or contact information about this. Can you tell me if you guys do new installs, as well as looking at current systems and how to contact you. We in the last few years bought the SQ7 and have questions.
Great work guys 👌🏻
How much would the budget be to put a sound system at that level?
What brand KVM were those, they never specified.
Cool setup ❤
Background music is awesome! I have a quesiton, what software did you guys use to model the PA system? I am trying to do some similar for my church but I don't know what software to use to model and represent my PA system
It's called Fulcrum One which is exclusive for fulcrum speakers.
@@steve01010thanks! Do you know of any software similar to fulcrum one that supports speakers of different brands?
Ease Focus 3 is a good one to use for different manufacturers.
@@garciaj503 Ease Focus is a common one that's easy to use. It's not as nice as most of the manufacturer specific software, but it's good.
Love that Israeli flag in the background!
Of course you freak colonizers love apartheid
Deberian crear un canal en español porque el contenido es excelente!!!
Why you upgraded the switcher? It seems via the multiview that they have only 2 cameras and a few other gfx. I mean is not a space constraint as you have 2 racks which are clearly empty
Thank you for your work!
Could you please help me? We use behringer Wing > Reaper on mac > NDI audio > ProPresenter on PC to stream to TH-cam.
I noticed that when I go throug that route with a recorded sound, it's much more "full" and sounds better than when we do live broadcasting.
We enforce 320 kbps in ProPresenter.
I'm thinking that when doing live recording, the quality is being "eaten" somewhere, but I don't know where? Maybe it's worth transitionin to a different DAW?
Please help! Maybe there are some other settings I should take care of?
Cowboy Church wow
Which network KVM do you use?
I like the rack room setup. What the name and Brand of the rack?
What a nice work - that looks great - Really :)
This comment section is wild. lol. Really cool install!
grateful for the keyboard integrators providing us with free consulting!
Could you share what kind of PA-system options you provided for this project?
Are you mainly opting systems on Fulcrum Acoustics?
@churchfront
I would like to appreciate your works and commitment guys. And I want you to recommend me a sound mixing console which is best for our church and we are confused at choosing whether Allen and Heath Qu 32 or Midas M32 sound mixing console. So please give us your recommendation and suggestion from these mixing console. Thank you for your kindly response.
I I had to choose between those two I would go M32.
But I would recommend SQ6
@@Churchfront Thank you so muc for the recommendation.
I must know if the Pinal County Sheriff attends this church ;)
Roughly what was the cost of the entire install? We are looking to do some updates to our system so i was hoping to get some idea of what to look for. We have a similar sized building, maybe slightly bigger
easily 150, 200k.
I used to love these videos back in the day, but I think my biggest issue now is that at this point, all of them are basically carbon copies of one another. The beauty in Church tech is working with shoe string budgets and learning to get creative.
You mention they are working with small budgets, but what is the benefit of utilizing say the 2/ME Constellation versus the 1/ME. Based off of the multi-view, they are only using 2 Camera inputs. I see maybe 2 for key & fill, 1 for Apple TV, 1 for confidence monitor, 1 for FOH GFX totaling 7 inputs. Now I'm happy to be wrong on my input count, but I just don't think you're being honest to your clients about practical needs.
Also, you are really inhibiting serviceablily by flipping that Netgear AV switch like that. Granted, if it were more visible in FOH, sure lets keep it clean, but when in a separate room only accessed likely by technicians, who cares about aesthetics to that degree.
The problem is that nowdays "so called technicians" prefer aesthetics over functionality. They really want to have a clean rack to show to youtube with the latest and greatest tech.
Same with the switcher, i don't think the church needed an updated model, they had plenty of room to grow with the old one.
@@checcouxI’m the production coordinator for a 7 campus church, all having different sizes congregations and with that different needs.
While it would be nice to have the same thing at every campus, it’s not a practical or cost effective solution. For example, we use an Avantis at our 1,800 person campus while we use an X-32 at our 60 person campus. Our 200 - 500 person campuses use an SQ (varying from the SQ5, SQ6, and SQ7). We even use an XR18 for our smaller spaces.
Point is, and this is not me trying to pat myself on the back, but I believe a good technician will meet the needs while still giving room for growth for the season.
2m/e gets more than twice the inputs/outputs and m/e for less than double the cost. plus alot of other updated features from blackmagic that their older switcher didn't have. This client has plans for adding many more cameras in the future. We putt in multiple sdi feeds on stage.
The netgear comes with rear facing ports. we didn't flip it.
Our goal is not to spec the cheapest solutions possible and neither is that our clients goals. We can definitely work with limited budgets when the limitiations are within reason.
We believe Church AVL is the most important application of AVL gear/software, so yes we have other videos on the channel that unpack budget solutions for small churches/plants. But for larger churches with mature budgets, we are going to spec accordingly.
Roughly, how much did their project cost? I know they got some upgrades in the custom floor boxes.
Gazillion dollars
What full size racks are you guys using? Having trouble finding economically friendly ones.
What's the minimum amount for stage( sound+ light)? I'm from India
சூப்பர் சூப்பர்.
How is the broadcast mix output from Logic being routed to the livestream?
Has anyone ever run a counter on the word 'deploy' and other forms of the word in one or these videos? I feel like there's something there...
Powersoft is the way to go
Do y’all use the stream deck software or companion?
Don’t get pulled over by officer Frank you know Fridays With Frank 😁😁 Pinal County Sheriff’s
How much is this all cost?
what app is that....the speaker coverage app
Fulcrum One.
3 of those wireless mics is like $25,000...even with 500 people that's still $50 each person....I just don't understand the economics of this? How much are you talking in total for this update?
They have 12 wireless mics there. An integrator (should) get you better pricing than if you just order from Sweetwater as well.
This is probably in the range of $200-250k with products and labor since it looks like an audio overhaul and partial video. You should be able to get three ULXD systems (a total of 12 mics) for about $15k. If a church really needs 12 wireless, then typically that is going to fit within their budget. That's not the most expensive option out there.
@@steve01010 if they say it seats 500 people then that would be a $400 to $500 investment from every person. Considering a number of those people will be from the same family or children...I just don't understand the economics of stuff like this?
@@peterthorogood7025 The way churches (and most anyone investing in equipment) approach the expense of things like this is how it plays out over time. Yes, $500 per person if you pay it off in one weekend, but no one would do that. If you get 10 years out of the equipment and you have 500 people attending each weekend, then a $250,000 investment comes out to 96 cents per person per weekend: $250,000 / (500 X 52 Weekends X 10 years). I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I don't think a family of 5 would have many complaints about contributing less than $5 per weekend for an A/V upgrade.
@@peterthorogood7025 Most organizations (not just churches) are going to consider the cost long term. If they can get 10 years out of this system, it comes out to a little less than $1 per person, per weekend (250,000 / (500 * 52 weeks * 10 years)). I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but just the reality of how the cost is approached.
Pls mention speakers and subs names in comments
Lettuce know
This is what happens when a TH-cam channel thinks it's an AVL integrator.
It’s true. We are manifesting our way to integrator status.
cool
first!!!!!
Really do not know how you guys can afford gear like this....
There is no greater compliment than "Nice Rack!"
I must admit, that is a beautiful Rack, very well put together.
I love the Israeli 🇮🇱 flag!! So beautiful
Colonizer 🫵
But... Why cowboys? Jesus is not a cowboy.
1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
the only dumb thing is that the church has an israeli flag on the wall which is very stupid
the video is good, but the flag and the people who put that flag there is dumb
👎👎👎👎👎👎 don’t support colonialism and apartheid, free Palestine.
Oh yeah…nothing like a “church” dropping 10s of thousands of dollars on technology. Way to abuse that tax exempt status
That drum kit alone is $8K here in Australia.
Granted it’s a 500 seat church but still, that whole install has to be in the realm of over $100K.
Have no idea how these churches afford it.
@@jeremythomas2865They do it here in the states because churches here are tax exempt for some reason. So random people start a "church" to avoid paying taxes. They then spend the money that should be used for the community on their own well being. It's a scam here
@@paytah3373 Not all churches claim tax exemption and some organizations that are tax exempt still choose to pay sales tax. The tax exemption discussion is important because it's not just churches. If you take away tax exempt status for churches, it's going to open up every charitable organization out there to be subject to taxes as well.
@@steve01010 churches shouldn't be 501c3. It's an easy fix
@@steve01010and more churches claim tax exempt than you think. Look at what happened in 2023 when the Mormon church was fined by the SEC for hiding 32 BILLION (with a B) in shell companies from their investment division. What kind of "church" has an investment division ?
My favorite video from your company so far.
My church here in Sweden have done about 50% of what I saw in the video. I got quite a bit of inspiration. 🎤🎚️