I thought it was gonna be hard. Turns out it's all in the timing. Keep playing with it and eventually you'll get that perfect timing. Excellent instructional video
The double haul makes the cast even more rhythmic than back and forth with the rod. I like involving both hands. Feels great when you finally get it. thanks for the great videos!
I found this really helpful as a novice. You explained it really well. It was easier to get the technique right with better understanding of the principles you explained. Thanks Pete! Thanks Orvis!
Great video! Very good technique!!! A double haul isn't very difficult once you get the hang of it. It just takes practice. This video is an excellent starting point for anyone wishing to learn how to perform the double haul correctly and effectively. When your out in the water, without getting to close to scare the natives, the double haul will allow you to reach out and touch the area where the big, smart and easily spooked fish like to swim.
Excellent presentation and explanation. Getting here late, but after looking at a few examples of this technique, I think this is the best and easiest presentation to understand and take action on. Great job! Glad I subscribed.
I watch this video over and over and over again. For me, it's a struggle, but one of these days, it's all going to sink in, and I'll have one of those ahaaa moments. Preferably before fall when I;m going to try my hand at a guided muskie fishing excursion. I may have to watch this video another hundred times, but hey, if that' what it takes, the n it'll be good at the end.
Thank you so much, you've mastered the art of not only casting but teaching. You've simplified the entire casting stroke for me and pointed out a few things I've been doing wrong all along. I am excited about getting out again, instead of being apprehensive and wondering if my casting ability is going to show up or not for the day. One other thing you do, which is where you helped me the most, is go over the signs of when you're doing something wrong. I've been hauling too early and always end up wrapped up around the rod. I also wasn't starting with enough of the belly of the line out, and always had difficulty loading the rod, causing a lot of false casting strokes. Which to the uninformed look cool, but I knew I wasn't doing something right. Thank you again (from 2019) !
like any finesse hand skill, keep the elbows idle, the more you leave it to the forearm and wrist, the more control you will have. Great video, never fly fished, but I've ALWAYS been curious about the casting display. Hope to one day make a trip of it.
Like how you said, "Right... THERE, at the end......Right ... THERE, at the end." To me, that's a great way to teach basic line throwing with fly rod and line.
Nice video thanks, i try to do some research on all aspect of flycasting, and one thing i have noticed is some say that the haul seem to start after you have stopped the rod. Now if you look closely here ore better yet go to a video showeing the double haul in slow motion, you will see that a good double haul starts before the stop,infact the most importent isnt when you start the haul,but when you end it.If you end the haul to soon it will interupt with the acceleration of the rod and the resault is tailing loops and slack. You can actually start the haul at the beginning, as long as you accelerate the haul with the same speed (ore atleast not accelerate it to hard) as the rod and that you end the haul after the rod tip stops. But if you start to soon it is most likely that you have ended the haul to soon. If you look closely you will hopefully notice that the haul is also accelerateing and it stop after the rodtip and you have a good double haul.
I agree that mastering double-hauling is simply essential to anyone wanting to overcome some of the more crippling scenarios that face fly casters. I also agree that most 'master' casters have only learned to overcome a string of 'bad' habits that are unique to them and their body physiology. The importance of maintaining line speed and using the arm/body as the casting power source instead of simply the wrist/forearm is forgotten in this vid, rendering it useless except for small stream/trout.
I thnk hauling should be the FIRST cast ever taught to a new student, as mastering double-hauling empowers them to correct-on-the-fly and compensate for any missed timing - something so very many of us veterans do without even thinking about it any more. That is, we "master" casters DON'T cast perfectly, we simply CORRECT CONTINUOUSLY, until we forget we're DOING it. That IS what double-hauling CAN provide to novice casters, and I whole-heartedly encourage it as the FIRST cast to teach!...
Wow, excellent video! I am just learning to cast using Lefty's video and youtube. The instructors very good, breaking things down into bite size pieces. I going out to practice again!
Great video for the double haul but what it doesn't explain is what is happening with the left hand. Does he keep the line pinched tight for both back casts amd the forward cast but then release the line only when shooting the line forward on second cast ? Can anyone clarify please ?
Peter - only just came across your videos, and quite impressed. Nicely done: short, to-the-point, which is clearly your goal. That said, you KNOW you need to get on a RIVER from now on, don't you ;-) ... Go find that moving water, because your videos ARE valuable, and more people NEED to see your casts in real-life action. Also, please show more lifts, and single-handed spey-with-haul casts. Keep up the great work!
Hauling Early creates a square pointed loop. It doesn't create slack. Moving the hand back too quickly creates slack, lack of tension in the line creates slack. Double hauling adds stroke length to the cast ( long line long stroke) It doesn't take any strain off the wrist because there should be no strain ON the wrist. Finally, Use Steve Rajeff's technique of bounding the hauling hand. If you flick the rod hand and it works, you should be flicking the line hand too.
Great video ! When doing the double haul on grass (ie with a dry fly line) the line slips very easily through the guides on the 1st back cast and once this happens, double hauling on the remaining forward and back casts presents no real problems. However when practicing the double haul on water I find that on the 1st back cast the line does not slip backwards through the guides very easily (or often not at all) after the haul because the fly line is wet and sticks to the guides; I therefore get the 'slack line' problem that you mention. To overcome this I seem to have to make a more aggressive 1st back cast just to get the line running back through the guides - this aggressive 1st back cast almost always ruins the rest of the false casts. Any ideas on how to correct this 1st back cast problem ?
Apparently I've been double hauling since day one. I figured it was just a part of fly casting in general, not just for long casts and managing large amounts of line.
cheers love the vids,keep them coming,,my back cast is not as strong as my forward cast i can control the loop size and power ,but noticed that the back cast isnt as powerfull and the loop is more open and often wiggle at the end,do i need to go to the gym or is there an exercise you do to help make the wrist stronger or is it bad technic
Learning can be the most frustrating part of fly fishing but don't get discouraged. The benefits of being out on the water and listening to that stream flow far outweigh the growing pains, not to mention the feeling of catching one.
Unfortunately I learned the double haul many many moons ago, the wrong way. I now have a bad habit to break. I say wrong because my timing is slightly off and the haul is not as effective as it otherwise would be if I waited till the very last minute to pull on the line. The haul is most effective if it’s done two thirds of the way into either forward cast or backcast. Joan Wolf talks about this and demonstrates it quite effectively. I’m determined to fix my timing but it is going to take a lot of relearning…
John Webber--your comment in response to mine has made me feel silly. I was being beligerent when I wrote it-and to be honest I watched the WHOLE video and it did help me with my cast-so I'm removing the initial response and replacing it with a sincere THANK YOU.
Hi - great video but I am struggling a bit on the back cast with big (predator) flies. When I do the back cast, the line does not feed back up through the rings, so there is nothing to 'haul' on for the front cast. Any tips? Thanks!
This my be a little off topic but what is a good general action rod to begin with? One that I will be able to cast nymphs, and small lures (1/32 - 1/8) with? I will be fishing trout and bass on the same trip and can only bring 1 rod. Would a 9', 8#, Medium action work or does a Fast action rod cast Nymphs further. I know in a spinning rod & reel setup, a medium action rod will cast lighter lures further, but I have yet to understand the dynamics of fly fishing to know what action and length of rod casts better. I will also try to use this haul technique from your video to help load the rod to get better distance.
Figured out how to do it tonight. Came naturally when i tried keeping line tension with my other hand. I attempted to learn before but i was pulling too late, hand too far away from rod and pulling to much line on haul.
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I thought it was gonna be hard. Turns out it's all in the timing. Keep playing with it and eventually you'll get that perfect timing. Excellent instructional video
Your double haul video is the best one yet on the subject.
One of be the lesson on casting I have ever seen! Thanks very much for a job well done.
Des we vass
Liking very much how you teach the easy, slower, calm movement back and forth, with the arm.
The true secret to using fly rod and line.
The double haul makes the cast even more rhythmic than back and forth with the rod. I like involving both hands. Feels great when you finally get it.
thanks for the great videos!
Thats what she said.. Sorry hand to
Congratulations on an absolutely brilliant video clip. It has transformed my double hauling, and improved my flyfishing immensely. Many thanks indeed.
Kissass
I found this really helpful as a novice. You explained it really well. It was easier to get the technique right with better understanding of the principles you explained. Thanks Pete! Thanks Orvis!
This video helped me leaen the double haul. Once you get that elyptical rythem, everything just clicks.. Awesome video
Great video! Very good technique!!! A double haul isn't very difficult once you get the hang of it. It just takes practice. This video is an excellent starting point for anyone wishing to learn how to perform the double haul correctly and effectively. When your out in the water, without getting to close to scare the natives, the double haul will allow you to reach out and touch the area where the big, smart and easily spooked fish like to swim.
Like butter. Thanks, Pete, for the great lessons. I aspire to cast as smoothly and effectively.
Such a smooth presentation. Fun to watch!
I have learned more in 3 of your videos than you can possibly imagine. Thank you.
This is the best video on the Double Haul. Thank you and tight lines to you.
One of the best casting instructional videos ever!!! Thank you.
These videos are absolutely incredible
To the point, relatable, and so useful
I have watched this 10 times...and I will watch it 100 more times if I need too. Great quality!
Excellent presentation and explanation. Getting here late, but after looking at a few examples of this technique, I think this is the best and easiest presentation to understand and take action on. Great job! Glad I subscribed.
What a great example how to teach casting methods. Nice work!
I watch this video over and over and over again. For me, it's a struggle, but one of these days, it's all going to sink in, and I'll have one of those ahaaa moments. Preferably before fall when I;m going to try my hand at a guided muskie fishing excursion. I may have to watch this video another hundred times, but hey, if that' what it takes, the n it'll be good at the end.
Thank you so much, you've mastered the art of not only casting but teaching. You've simplified the entire casting stroke for me and pointed out a few things I've been doing wrong all along. I am excited about getting out again, instead of being apprehensive and wondering if my casting ability is going to show up or not for the day. One other thing you do, which is where you helped me the most, is go over the signs of when you're doing something wrong. I've been hauling too early and always end up wrapped up around the rod. I also wasn't starting with enough of the belly of the line out, and always had difficulty loading the rod, causing a lot of false casting strokes. Which to the uninformed look cool, but I knew I wasn't doing something right. Thank you again (from 2019) !
like any finesse hand skill, keep the elbows idle, the more you leave it to the forearm and wrist, the more control you will have. Great video, never fly fished, but I've ALWAYS been curious about the casting display. Hope to one day make a trip of it.
Great Series on fly casting. I've been fishing for many years and still find many great tips and tricks. Well done Orvis!
This has to be the best explantation ever. Thanks
Thank you.. You cleared up some many issues I had with casting. All the best.
best one I have seen I am new to this fly fishing I'm 12 and I am already casting good
Big Pete is the MAN! Another great video.
Both myself and my cat enjoyed this video. I watched to the end, but he left to go play with his string toy.
Excellent teaching and teacher!! Just bought a new 9' 6wt RECON!! Gonna go practice, Thanks again !!!
So helpful, thank you! Going to try the circle flow of the haul!...
Like how you said,
"Right... THERE, at the end......Right ... THERE, at the end."
To me, that's a great way to teach basic line throwing with fly rod and line.
An excellent demonstration, he makes it look so easy and rhythmic but I’ll bet it’s not. Can’t wait to give it a try though.
thank you, thank you. Finally,.i can see the idea ov the double haul. At last! Cant wait to get out there and practise. Xxx
Nice video thanks, i try to do some research on all aspect of flycasting, and one thing i have noticed is some say that the haul seem to start after you have stopped the rod. Now if you look closely here ore better yet go to a video showeing the double haul in slow motion, you will see that a good double haul starts before the stop,infact the most importent isnt when you start the haul,but when you end it.If you end the haul to soon it will interupt with the acceleration of the rod and the resault is tailing loops and slack. You can actually start the haul at the beginning, as long as you accelerate the haul with the same speed (ore atleast not accelerate it to hard) as the rod and that you end the haul after the rod tip stops. But if you start to soon it is most likely that you have ended the haul to soon. If you look closely you will hopefully notice that the haul is also accelerateing and it stop after the rodtip and you have a good double haul.
I agree that mastering double-hauling is simply essential to anyone wanting to overcome some of the more crippling scenarios that face fly casters. I also agree that most 'master' casters have only learned to overcome a string of 'bad' habits that are unique to them and their body physiology. The importance of maintaining line speed and using the arm/body as the casting power source instead of simply the wrist/forearm is forgotten in this vid, rendering it useless except for small stream/trout.
Great instructor he is a good teacher
I thnk hauling should be the FIRST cast ever taught to a new student, as mastering double-hauling empowers them to correct-on-the-fly and compensate for any missed timing - something so very many of us veterans do without even thinking about it any more. That is, we "master" casters DON'T cast perfectly, we simply CORRECT CONTINUOUSLY, until we forget we're DOING it. That IS what double-hauling CAN provide to novice casters, and I whole-heartedly encourage it as the FIRST cast to teach!...
Great instructional video, very easy to understand!
awesome instruction--very strightforward and down to earth. thanks so much!
Very Nice, good job Peter and staff.
Thanks!
Awesome video. Very informative. Thanks for all your teaching.
Thank you so much I am finally learning the double haul!
Wow, excellent video! I am just learning to cast using Lefty's video and youtube. The instructors very good, breaking things down into bite size pieces. I going out to practice again!
Really helpful advices. Regards from France.
Youre a great teacher man! Thanks for the vid!
Awesome video man! Just starting to learn to fly fish and can't really get those far casts, hope this helps!
Wow .. what a well spoken explanation , thanks
Very clear presentation. Made it much more understandable. Thanks!!!!
This looks great its definitely a skill I need to master, great video thanks
Great video...very easy to follow. Now for the practice!
You should make a video on how to practice during the winter months
I just spent an hour practicing this today...so hard!
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Too bad you can't like this video twice! Many thanks from Amghass 3 trout reservoir (Morocco)
Great video for the double haul but what it doesn't explain is what is happening with the left hand. Does he keep the line pinched tight for both back casts amd the forward cast but then release the line only when shooting the line forward on second cast ?
Can anyone clarify please ?
Great instructions , I still need a ton of practice
Excellent tutorial video 🐟🎣🙂
great video cant wait to get out and practice. Thanks
Peter - only just came across your videos, and quite impressed. Nicely done: short, to-the-point, which is clearly your goal. That said, you KNOW you need to get on a RIVER from now on, don't you ;-) ... Go find that moving water, because your videos ARE valuable, and more people NEED to see your casts in real-life action. Also, please show more lifts, and single-handed spey-with-haul casts. Keep up the great work!
Hauling Early creates a square pointed loop. It doesn't create slack. Moving the hand back too quickly creates slack, lack of tension in the line creates slack. Double hauling adds stroke length to the cast ( long line long stroke) It doesn't take any strain off the wrist because there should be no strain ON the wrist. Finally, Use Steve Rajeff's technique of bounding the hauling hand. If you flick the rod hand and it works, you should be flicking the line hand too.
These videos are super helpful!
Great video ! When doing the double haul on grass (ie with a dry fly line) the line slips very easily through the guides on the 1st back cast and once this happens, double hauling on the remaining forward and back casts presents no real problems. However when practicing the double haul on water I find that on the 1st back cast the line does not slip backwards through the guides very easily (or often not at all) after the haul because the fly line is wet and sticks to the guides; I therefore get the 'slack line' problem that you mention. To overcome this I seem to have to make a more aggressive 1st back cast just to get the line running back through the guides - this aggressive 1st back cast almost always ruins the rest of the false casts. Any ideas on how to correct this 1st back cast problem ?
Clean your fly line, brother.
really good teacher! I bet you have more clients than you can schedule 👍
dean martin
Amazing!
That could not be much
You can now in this video.
Thank you! !
Pete
Brilliant as always. Jim Brett
Apparently I've been double hauling since day one. I figured it was just a part of fly casting in general, not just for long casts and managing large amounts of line.
Clear instructions. Good teaching.
Your videos are great! Thanks!
Wow Thank you for your advice.😘😘😘
cheers love the vids,keep them coming,,my back cast is not as strong as my forward cast i can control the loop size and power ,but noticed that the back cast isnt as powerfull and the loop is more open and often wiggle at the end,do i need to go to the gym or is there an exercise you do to help make the wrist stronger or is it bad technic
Great teaching video! Thank you so much. GS
Thanks Pete, great video. Does this work with lite weight dry flies too or is this more fore streamers.
Really well done. Many thanks.
Pure poetry. Thank you.
Great video Peter, thanks a lot!
Peter looks so familiar. Did he do a class at the International Sportsmens Expo in Sacramento a couple years ago?
Super, easy to understand. Good vid....:)
That was a great breakdown, thanks. Now, can this comment travel back 10 years in time? :)
A great video very clear info,thank's for showing.ATB.Steve.
That was great! Besides at the very end when do you let line out?
Learning can be the most frustrating part of fly fishing but don't get discouraged. The benefits of being out on the water and listening to that stream flow far outweigh the growing pains, not to mention the feeling of catching one.
Peter is the man.
Thank you! Awesome video and well taught!
I have learned a lot of this but I want to improve my accuracy.
I'm glad I'm not the only one having issues with this.
Unfortunately I learned the double haul many many moons ago, the wrong way. I now have a bad habit to break. I say wrong because my timing is slightly off and the haul is not as effective as it otherwise would be if I waited till the very last minute to pull on the line. The haul is most effective if it’s done two thirds of the way into either forward cast or backcast. Joan Wolf talks about this and demonstrates it quite effectively. I’m determined to fix my timing but it is going to take a lot of relearning…
John Webber--your comment in response to mine has made me feel silly. I was being beligerent when I wrote it-and to be honest I watched the WHOLE video and it did help me with my cast-so I'm removing the initial response and replacing it with a sincere THANK YOU.
Hi - great video but I am struggling a bit on the back cast with big (predator) flies. When I do the back cast, the line does not feed back up through the rings, so there is nothing to 'haul' on for the front cast. Any tips? Thanks!
This my be a little off topic but what is a good general action rod to begin with? One that I will be able to cast nymphs, and small lures (1/32 - 1/8) with? I will be fishing trout and bass on the same trip and can only bring 1 rod. Would a 9', 8#, Medium action work or does a Fast action rod cast Nymphs further. I know in a spinning rod & reel setup, a medium action rod will cast lighter lures further, but I have yet to understand the dynamics of fly fishing to know what action and length of rod casts better.
I will also try to use this haul technique from your video to help load the rod to get better distance.
This guy is great, looks like actor Jason sudeikis?
Figured out how to do it tonight. Came naturally when i tried keeping line tension with my other hand. I attempted to learn before but i was pulling too late, hand too far away from rod and pulling to much line on haul.
Where's Rick Hartman? Always a tight line with Rick, tailing Reds and all!
Great teacher. Very clear. Thanks
Beginner questions...what do you use as a fly when practice casting? Can one really practice on grass if not somewhat experienced?
Excellently explained.
great vid mate, very helpful....
Do you give classes in casting if yes how much will it cost ,do you think I can double haul like you Thanks its a great video. Rajiv
any idea what rod he's using? I like the action!
Thanks! Great info and double hauling has been easier!!!! ;)
How come all of the other instructors I've watched said NEVER let your wrist move in the cast?
what kind of line is he using? might be the most difficult question in world, but I'll give it a shot :P