Mafell has an old tradition among carpenters here in Germany who use these saws for roof construction. You only buy these machines once for a lifetime, indestructible, and of very high quality that are still 100% made in Germany. Have fun with it. Greetings Michael - master carpenter
I have had to take apart all of my 3 mafell track saws to clean them internally because they get stuck due to dust particles getting stuck in between the plunge rod. I prefer to use my Festool to be honest.. The plunge mechanism is just better constructed. Why are using a clamp on top of your track??
Im coming from Germany Baden Württemberg and i live in the Black Forest . Festool, Mafell , Stihl , Bosch... its funny how all this Woodtool Manufacturer are just based a few Kilometers away from eachother. I personally use Makita and Festool and of course Stihl Good Video Bro
I’m using staff from Mafell and Festool, I love Festool but Mafell is just next level, try their jigsaw it’s ridiculous , cannot wait for the cordless option.
Please don't mention a cordless Mafell jigsaw, I have the batteries already but I have a lovely Metabo jigsaw so I really don't need the Mafell. Or do I? Oh dear.
Get the roller edge guide if you do not already have it. You can cut narrow rips off the track...works great and often just use that and forgo the track.
It is a great tool - I have been running a KSS80 for several years - same saw, but with the cross-cut track. It has never lacked power and has delivered. Worth every penny in my opinion.
@@tdwoodcustoms Thank you for the reply TD. A poster has just came on to the festool owners group (FOG) and has cited this as being a problem with his new Mafell KSS80. Most track saws have play in this groove and the Festool HK85 (which I own) has an adjustment facility to remove any movement. .
The KSS saws (K85) does not allow any adjustment for slop. However, this has never been an issue for me. I too was concerned about it when I got the saw. The reality is that when you push the saw you are pushing against the rib in the rail and the saw cuts straight.
Has the price on the K85Ec gone up? Timberwolf currently list at $1,567. Prices are obviously going up across the board but I don't remember it being that high. Thank you.
Hi, nice to see the saw in action. Just wondering which of the blades you have in there when ripping that board. Is it the standard 12 tooth blade? To be honest it does seem like its cutting slow for a 2300W beast? Thanks for your reply!
@@tdwoodcustomsHi! Could you tell me, do you have backlash on your rail with this saw? I've bought mafell kss50, and that have backlash with F rail, as a result it's not like after jointer. If you had the same problem, how did you solve it?
@@tdwoodcustoms I have being putting off getting a track saw and thought I had it until today. I have some 3/4" ply I have to cut at various angles and I have no particular tools that can get it done fast. So from here on out I need a track saw but I want to ditch the cord because I am a carpenter that works commercial and i get tired of the cord. Does that saw comes with battery? What do you recommend?
@@rickyperkins232 Hey Ricky, thanks for the comment. Mafell does make a cordless option- Mafell MT55 18M. I’ve heard great things. Their is also a great TH-cam video titled “Best Cordless Tracksaw” that might help narrow down your decision. Hope that helps!
@@tdwoodcustoms for years I have avoided this tool solely on the fact I don't like Festool and Festool pricing and because I am so damn good at free hand set ups. I see guys running miles around me with tracks saws it is crazy not to have one. Thanks for the review I am getting this saw cordless.
Great video, and absolutely love Mafell products. I have the 55 plunge/track saw one year, and have never used it. I was wondering when I installed the saw on the track why the blade was obviously going to cut some of the splinter rubber lol. Now I understand. Thanks again!
Same cutting depth as festool HK85 with the guide rail, just 3mm deeper without rail. Festool offer milling attachment for the HK. Coming in at half the price, the festool has the edge to me, where the mafell offers a different track system
Great video, thanks for sharing this info. There aren't many reviews out there on this saw so this was very helpful. FYI, I have those DeWalt clamps for my Makita tracks, but just got the K85 and they're much too thick for the Mafell rails.
The Festool HK85 has roughly the same features and cut capacity. Taking multiple passes should not be necessary if the right blade is being used for the application. I do agree that Festool can feel a bit underpowered on their saws.
Festool do not make the HK85 in 110v. This is an issue for me as a site carpenter in the uk not just carpenters in North America. I have the battery HK55 and find it under powered at times. I also have a ts55 and find I have to make multiple passes regularly. The KSS 80 is my latest addition…. And it is an absolute beast. Crippled jacks are now a pleasure to cut.
Mafell has an old tradition among carpenters here in Germany who use these saws for roof construction. You only buy these machines once for a lifetime, indestructible, and of very high quality that are still 100% made in Germany. Have fun with it. Greetings Michael - master carpenter
Very true. I've never seen a Zimmerei in Germany use anything other than Mafell. absolute tanks.
I have had to take apart all of my 3 mafell track saws to clean them internally because they get stuck due to dust particles getting stuck in between the plunge rod. I prefer to use my Festool to be honest.. The plunge mechanism is just better constructed. Why are using a clamp on top of your track??
@@MrMakhitta I never had any issues with that, but hey if festool suits you better in that regard why not
Im coming from Germany Baden Württemberg and i live in the Black Forest . Festool, Mafell , Stihl , Bosch... its funny how all this Woodtool Manufacturer are just based a few Kilometers away from eachother. I personally use Makita and Festool and of course Stihl
Good Video Bro
I’m using staff from Mafell and Festool, I love Festool but Mafell is just next level, try their jigsaw it’s ridiculous , cannot wait for the cordless option.
Please don't mention a cordless Mafell jigsaw, I have the batteries already but I have a lovely Metabo jigsaw so I really don't need the Mafell.
Or do I? Oh dear.
Fast forward 2 years and we have it. And its amazing
Thanks for creating and sharing this video!
Get the roller edge guide if you do not already have it. You can cut narrow rips off the track...works great and often just use that and forgo the track.
Interesting solution to use this instead of a jointer. I’d love to learn more in a video sometime.
It is a great tool - I have been running a KSS80 for several years - same saw, but with the cross-cut track. It has never lacked power and has delivered. Worth every penny in my opinion.
Is their an adjustment on this saw to tighten the groove in the base to compensate for any play when its on the track?
I’d have to look closer, but the groove in the base doesn’t allow for any wiggle room
@@tdwoodcustoms Thank you for the reply TD. A poster has just came on to the festool owners group (FOG) and has cited this as being a problem with his new Mafell KSS80.
Most track saws have play in this groove and the Festool HK85 (which I own) has an adjustment facility to remove any movement. .
The KSS saws (K85) does not allow any adjustment for slop. However, this has never been an issue for me. I too was concerned about it when I got the saw. The reality is that when you push the saw you are pushing against the rib in the rail and the saw cuts straight.
The way the groove and the guide rail work on this saw means that slop is very unlikely to ever occur.
Now that you have had this tool for a while now, would you recommend it?
I’ve got one question? I’m looking at the kss 80. What is the difference in the two?
Soon I'm buying either the K85 or KSS60. You think the 2 3/8 cutting depth isn't enough for the KSS60?
I would get bosch guide rails about $50 cheaper and made by mafell too
They are not made by Mafell !!!
yea really just get the guide rails from same manufacturer that your saw is.
Has the price on the K85Ec gone up? Timberwolf currently list at $1,567. Prices are obviously going up across the board but I don't remember it being that high. Thank you.
That was the same price when I purchased back in July.
25 mil pesos mexicanos
Hi, nice to see the saw in action. Just wondering which of the blades you have in there when ripping that board. Is it the standard 12 tooth blade? To be honest it does seem like its cutting slow for a 2300W beast? Thanks for your reply!
I’m taking it much slower than I probably needed to, but I wanted a super clean edge. Yep, it’s 12 tooth
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@@tdwoodcustoms Is their an adjustment on this saw to tighten the groove in the base to compensate for any play when its on the track?
@@tdwoodcustomsHi! Could you tell me, do you have backlash on your rail with this saw? I've bought mafell kss50, and that have backlash with F rail, as a result it's not like after jointer. If you had the same problem, how did you solve it?
New subscriber I love the channel, love this video what an incredible saw. Thanks for sharing hope to see more of it in the future
Thank you!
@@tdwoodcustoms I have being putting off getting a track saw and thought I had it until today. I have some 3/4" ply I have to cut at various angles and I have no particular tools that can get it done fast.
So from here on out I need a track saw but I want to ditch the cord because I am a carpenter that works commercial and i get tired of the cord.
Does that saw comes with battery? What do you recommend?
@@rickyperkins232 Hey Ricky, thanks for the comment. Mafell does make a cordless option- Mafell MT55 18M. I’ve heard great things. Their is also a great TH-cam video titled “Best Cordless Tracksaw” that might help narrow down your decision. Hope that helps!
@@tdwoodcustoms for years I have avoided this tool solely on the fact I don't like Festool and Festool pricing and because I am so damn good at free hand set ups.
I see guys running miles around me with tracks saws it is crazy not to have one.
Thanks for the review I am getting this saw cordless.
I really like Mafell saws but the Festool HK85 would be the oponend for smaller money
You really like the word Super. Nice video. Thanks for posting! Subbed.
Super!
Great video, and absolutely love Mafell products. I have the 55 plunge/track saw one year, and have never used it. I was wondering when I installed the saw on the track why the blade was obviously going to cut some of the splinter rubber lol. Now I understand. Thanks again!
Same cutting depth as festool HK85 with the guide rail, just 3mm deeper without rail. Festool offer milling attachment for the HK. Coming in at half the price, the festool has the edge to me, where the mafell offers a different track system
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@@crisvega7588 interesting insight
Do you know will it work with makita track guide
no it won't, the ones from Bosch and Mafell are basically the same
Great video, thanks for sharing this info. There aren't many reviews out there on this saw so this was very helpful.
FYI, I have those DeWalt clamps for my Makita tracks, but just got the K85 and they're much too thick for the Mafell rails.
The Festool HK85 has roughly the same features and cut capacity. Taking multiple passes should not be necessary if the right blade is being used for the application. I do agree that Festool can feel a bit underpowered on their saws.
Festool do not make the HK85 in 110v. This is an issue for me as a site carpenter in the uk not just carpenters in North America. I have the battery HK55 and find it under powered at times. I also have a ts55 and find I have to make multiple passes regularly. The KSS 80 is my latest addition…. And it is an absolute beast. Crippled jacks are now a pleasure to cut.
The difference in price between the 2 saws here in europe is nearly 500 euros, so its logical that mafell is a little better
@2:31 I've seen that you are using the saw, bend over in a really unpleasant way, on sandals. That's how accidents occur.
I learned from the best @blacktailstudio
You can point this out to these dudes, but they're too arrogant to think an accident will ever happen to them. Same with that blacktail guy.
"I didn't have huge budget". *Buys a 1500 saw*
I think he compares to buying a jointer ;-) A good one will kill your wallet.
I will never pay that much money for a skill saw.
Ok