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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2022
- Hello everyone, I am back and today we'll be taking a look at another character. This time it's kirby! He may not be considered the greatest character in the game, but that does not mean he can't possess some interesting hitboxes. So join me today as we take a look at the pink puffball himself.
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Kirby's Luma also differs from Rosalina's. It launches at a slightly higher angle, and has a bit less knockback growth, and it doesn't have negative shield damage making it a bit stronger against shields.
Kirby in a nutshell: this would be broken if he had more mobility
Incineroar lite
I don't agree, his attacks would be still very stubby and his jumps would still make him terrible at catching landings and jumps, and his reward would still be not enough
He'd still be light, outspaced and often play losing games vs other close range characters
@@Mattroid99 stubby range didnt stop mario from becoming a high tier
@@SnailMakesMusic High tier, not a top tier
But even there Mario has fast, lagless aerials, way stronger damage output etc
2:00 It's actually Kirby's Burning Ability, that only did that one move, before they combined it with fire, it's the same thing that happened with Freeze getting Merged with Ice and Throw and Backdrop getting Merged into Suplex.
The old days when copy ability did one thing
Then super star came in with the combination attacks
Then fighter actually became the true reference to street fighter
Suplex was the best ability, fight me
really getting creative with these alliterative titles, huh?
Still clicked on it, huh?
@@Henroid25 hell yeah i did i love alliteration
@@comicalbanana my b it sounded mean. Love this channel
@@Henroid25 ur good homie
@@Henroid25 ayo how did you think it sounded mean… 🤨
I was actually expecting you to comment on the version of inhale that triggers when you inhale strong projectiles, as up to a certain percentage projectiles do not get converted into a small amount of hp with a lot of lag, but get spat out in the form of a star with size relative to the strength of the move inhaled.
aside from the obvious great usefulness of inhale to copy abilities, I'm actually quite a bit frustrated as to how useless they made it be when it comes to most projectiles. DDD got a huge buff in his inhale to be a reflector and still he isn't top tier or anything. I don't think giving kirby a decent way of using it to regenerate health or reflect moves would make it broken, just... good.
oh, also, the hitboxes from stone that activate only when kirby slides down a slope... are they just the usual landing hitboxes or are they somehow different?
I was thinking he needed this very thing, and I totally forgot he technically has it. They really should lower the damage threshold for the projectile reflector to activate.
@@HEX33C1FF Really it should just do that with all projectiles regardless of damage. Maybe it'd be neat if Kirby could inhale multiple weak projectiles (kinda like game&watch bucket), but either way there's no reason to ever want the tiny heal when you'll just get punished for it anyway.
They should’ve had you able to hold it like the old games, but you cant use projectiles or fly, and you lose the star if you get hit
I was hoping for a buff to the range of projectiles you could actually spit out because as it is right now you can only really spit out charge shots, something Kirby naturally benefits from to just copy instead. Could've helped with his almost unplayable weakness to Zoners.
Can't wait for Fox's Fucking Hitboxes next week
niche use for hammer flip, half charged aerial hammer flip insta-breaks shields. a lot of quirks but pretty funny if you get it
Its amazing to finally see my main there! And since kirby is indeed pretty bad, but still misunderstood, here are a few clear ups:
down tilt is strong, but does not combo into itself until some specific percents. The main thing is to focus on escaping the move and not punishing it, thats how you avoid getting clipped.
stone is better than we give it credit for. If you are getting hit and your opponent overextends in the air, you can punish with stone. Kills as early as 40-60, they can't interrupt it, if you timed it well the only thing they can do is airdodge and then they can't punish you. reset the situation, disadvantage avoided/kill opportunity taken. its also very good for safely getting below ledge if you're scared of being swatted by aerials.
He is right that fair kinda drops a lot, it makes it a VERY unreliable kill option beyond 120% ish.
I know this wasn't supposed to be an accurate kirby video, but here you go nonetheless.
I love Kirby. I really want Kirby to stop being held back purposefully. And I hope next game, older character get revamped. I think kirby using a lot more moves based on abilities would make their range better, as a character that slow shouldn’t have such small hitboxes. Maybe a very slight air speed increase, nothing crazy, and more disjointed ability moves.
I absolutely adored the lil intermission during the inhale hitboxes, please never change man, have good holidays
Man, if Kirby was dlc or something, one of the stone random transformations would spike on the first few frames
Or it would just normally spike. Remember the smash 4 special moves had that as an option (it buried opponents too)
@@theoverseer393 That version was also pretty shite lol
It had a shitload of lag
Ayy I appreciate how you used the superstar version of the rest area theme in the end.
Things I have to say being a Kirby main:
3:41 yeap, fair drops a lot
Bair and nair really are nice moves
5:22 the lack of any hitbox on up-b at all can screw Kirby frequently while recovery if you don't know how, and even then
Also, up-b tents to drop a lot too, and only spikes at the beginning
Down-b has armor in some point while transforming in to rock, at least when use it in air
Copy abilities can be fun :)
I want to see the hitboxes of Rathalos as I am a fan of the Monster Hunter series
Ah yes, just like Incineroar, looking at just the hitboxes, Kirby seems amazing.
i find stone to be better for fake outs, transforming twice if they want to punish landings. if it misses i usually wait for the opponent to use a hasty attack and punish but if they read you your dead.
3:46 It does, Rekz...at set deciding times, it really does.
Honey wake up another hitboxes video just dropped
These are some really underwhelming hitboxes. Poor Kirby.
Yay another hitbox video! It's like early Christmas!
Kirby’s main competitive issues come with his stats. His good hitboxes don’t make up for his poor mobility, and his poor mobility causes other issues like having poor recovery.
He’d be really good if they just gave him more air mobility and maybe a bit higher jump height.
If you ask me, Kirby's air mobility should be swapped with Jigglypuff. I know Jigglypuff is light but doesn't even fly like that canonically. Kirby on the other hand does that
@@STONKS_MemeMan Kirby is not fast in the air canonically though. In his games he's usually quite slow in the air.
@@staticchimera6371 Okay. In that case,
*FUCK*
Jigglypuff should get the same air mobility as Kirby then
@@STONKS_MemeMan Kirby by definition has always been slow in the air though. It's literally one of the defining traits of the character that's remained consistent across his entire series.
@@Robbie_Haruna Yeah I see that now
As a Kirby main, I'd love to see the cute puff ball with more mobility. He'd truly be more oppressive if he simply had that
That would also be totally inaccurate. I’ve played a lot of Kirby since Brawl and I think all he needs is some actually useful special moves. Either make the current ones better or give him new ones. I find it really weird how Kirby of all characters has one of the worst combinations of special moves in both Ult and Smash 4.
@@SparkyForce I will say, his toolkit was vastly improved in 4 with the Upper Cutter alternate special, it had great utility and could kill, plus his recovery was less exploitable... Unfortunately it didn't stay, I really enjoyed using that
I mean that would also be very inaccurate to the actual character is the issue.
Kirby at his core is not a terribly fast character even in his own games, especially in the air.
That's likely why they give him like heavy kill power to compensate.
Another good vid. I always adore the titles
Shiny Swablu was my first shiny pokemon in Pokemon Violet!
Thing with Kirby and Dedede's hammer charge. While the full charge does hurt them it only does so till 100%. If they are over 100 it won't deal anymore damage.
Also down B does have a solid use in competitive. If you can read people it does good shield damage, and if you can break a shield side B full charged at ledge takes stocks real early.
Or my favorite use a recovery mix up. If you are up higher using it not only puts out a hitbox that also gives 10% worth of armor it will lower you down to snap ledge with up B. Just make sure to press down B again before diving into the blast zone.
yay kirby time :D
If Smash was canon, he would destroy the entire roster
Kirby's down special has a couple of properties that combine for some really stupid things he can do, but only on select stages that aren't competitive legal and against certain Spirit Battle rules.
To put it simply, it can be used to land on a surface and get back your mid-air jumps without touching it with a hurtbox by jumping out of the reverse transformation fast enough... and while I don't know every stage hazard you can land on without getting hit, it is safe on the hazard floors present in some Spirit Battles.
I just wish copy replaced more, if not all, of kirby's specials, would be a lot of fun and make inhaling a lot of characters more appealing
Give him king dedede inhale and make up B projectile a reflection effect (wouldn't work again full charge Samus shot) but would work again his missiles. Just these 2 defensive things would give him a lot more options and match ups
Something very important about Kirby is that up tilt does not reach the Battlefield platform, while up-smash does. It's a huge disappointment because it really limits your way of shield pressuring opponents on a platform. Oh, and f-throw puts you above the Battlefield platforms, stopping any kind of combo
Kirby really is such a sad case of a character. He's got so many great moves, his tilts especially, but in the end he's betrayed by his fundamental properties as a character. He's just too slow. Give him the air speed of another pink sphere, or even an average air speed like Mario's, and he would suddenly be SO much better. I know that Kirby in his games is generally pretty slow in the air, but it seems crazy that his air speed is slower than Incineroar, Min Min, and Dr. Mario.
YES! KIRBY!
You read Umineko?!?! That novels dope as hell you got great taste
I would LOVE a video on my main, Greninja, next!! ^w^
Oh boy. You've read Umineko.
How many times did you cry?
My Samus struggled until I used F tilt for a trade.
MY BOY
Explaining bowser’s berserk hitboxs!
Kirby has some devastating combos or even just good plays. Hammer flip shield breaker, trumping characters with their own moves, and a 0 to death combo that could be applied to pretty much any match up called "kirbys dair ride", insta footstool with inhale. And a dair that can drag down, gimp, and spike all in one go. He really is a force to be feared
Yeah I’ll just camp him out and kill him 70%
Too bad it’s impossibly difficult to do any of these successfully
@@elchad8635 the dair ride is very difficult, but the finisher for the combo is true i believe. I like to use it for kills. Pretty much all of the other things i listed are mainly spacing related
One gaint video on every copy ability.
Perhaps you could just cover each kirby copy hitbox on the character you cover in the future, that way you can just add one more to each video rather than covering them all in one.
Title and Next Video idea:
*Bayonetta's Busty Hitboxes*
Please do Rosalina and Luma! I've been a fan of yours since b4 the game came out!
Is it to much work for you to show a move hitting after showing its hitboxes?
The uncharged areal hammer is a shield breaker
Is it a good thing that I recognized all the copy ability animations?
Or Is that expected for a Kirby main
yippee!
I need Rosalina and Luma hitboxes. Yes, the video will last twice as long as usual. But I am all for it
Umineko fan W
if you want to see someone pushing kirby to his limits watch jejajeja hes so good with kirby
I mean, my day is alright. I've officially been sick for 7 days and I turned 23 today. I'm get red velvet cheese cake in an hour which sounds friggin boss
Explaining Bowser’s hitboxs would be cool, just can’t think of a pun
Bowser’s Beafy Hitboxes, or Bowser Beastly Hitboxes,
Bowser's bombastic hitboxes
Bowser's Bad Hitboxes lol
@@flordelizapacifico4022 Bowser mains when they lie lmao
Didn't Kirby's copy of Olimar/Alph's ability work differently from them?
I recall instead of throwing the pikmin to latch on, it becomes a thrown projectile with a hit that goes through opponents
Although this may have been on previous games, I haven't touched Ultimate......
Do the fire emblem characters next
6:36 doesn't roy's neutral special also damage him for charging it too long
Yes, releasing Roy's full charge damages him, but here he was talking about taking continual damage for holding the max hammer charge.
I don't remember, have you done hitboxes for Jigglypuff? If not that'd be cool to me
He hasn't yet. He still trying to gind a fitting adjective starting with "J".
@@TheHeavyshadow janky? Lol
@@TheHeavyshadow justifiable
Juiced up
Janky
Jolly
Jubilant
KORB
Coming back?
“Legs”…
Kirbo
Please do Bayonetta :)
Inkling episode when?????
i guess my limbs make my jab better
It was very rude of you to use blue kirby because I kept thinking his feet were intangible
#FootstoolKirby
April fools joke saying that they're good?
Doesn’t Kirby have a strong hitbox on him when he copies an ability? I swear I remember killing one of my friends with it in a free for all
the hitbox doesn't change, but the move gets a 1.2 multiplier. and as he said, sometimes the position of the hitboxes is reajusted to follow kirby's model
@@Andreecals no he's talking about how actually swallowing the opponent has a brief strong bitbox around Kirby
@@ballisticboo7808 how so? You mean a strong armor hurtbox?
@@Andreecals no. It's a hitbox that can't be seen in 1 v 1, if another player is directly next to kirby when he swallows someone else, there's a strong hitbox around him for a few frames.
@@ballisticboo7808 i don't know what this strong hitbox implies
I swear Kirby’s side b just makes me mad, I hate it’s stupid name, it’s hitbox is WAY worse than people think it is, it should’ve been his Fsmash, but it’s not. And people think it’s good, but guess what, ITS NOT
I never thought I’d see King Dice voiced by Wayne Brady raging over hammer flip
Well I need to be honest that I feel kirby's moveset is not utulized to his full potential even from smash 64 I felt his moveset feel pretty prototype like like why his down tilt isn't the slide kick, why his up B is the final cutter instead of high jump or rising break, why not put him the air bullet and so on and hecl you can't argue that his special moves are existing copy abilities when his jab and side smash based on fighter and technically jet with the foward smash while you can argue I just want him to be full of copy abilties for his moveset I just feel is be the way to fully optemize kirby to be how he play in his series easy to play but hard to master
While you have a point about lacking the slide kick, Kirby himself is at his core designed to being a good beginner character much like his games. Final Cutter probably mainly stuck as the up special because the cutter ability has had a much more consistent track record in the Kirby series while something like High Jump or missile miss out on a ton of titles.
This is why kirby moveset revamp ideas that make his entire moveset a cluster fuck where every move is a different copy ability are so awful and miss the mark so badly.
Also his series has never been easy to learn hard to master, let's not kid ourselves now.
@@Robbie_Haruna well I get your point that his moveset not need to be a massive cluster of copy abilities but even than I feel like in many cases final cutter should work much more different, maybe work as his foward throw, add the first 3 slices of the final cutter and not the last 3 only or heck while not iconic as this move they can still add cutter dash to his dash attack or cutter throw as his side special, and while kirby is a very easy character to learn in smash bros let's be real how hammer flip is easy to use in the game even during my early times with the character I barely use this move to begin with.
As for my statement of kirby being easy to play but hard to master well that really from my expirience yes kirby's game are have very easy difficulty but really with the exception of the first two games despite not playing the very first game I can tell that mastering the abilities is what make kirby hard to master from the more classic title like super star with mastering wave dashing with plasma to get the strongest attack, or keep the right distance for a hammer flip or even the modern title like mastering the flip dodge to deal effective damahe to bosses in fogotten land or in the modern quadlogy mastering the quad shock of ninja in return, spacing yourself with find opertunity with the burst option of circus or get mutiple stars for a massive damaging throw with beetle I know star allies isn't the best choise since how powerfull elemental dream freinds can be but if you go solo or with an avrage team for the soul melter EX you have to master your ability in order to take the boss so it won't unleash the more harder to dodge attacks
In conclusion while I get your points there and there I have some factors I disagree with but I respect your POV
Friendly reminder that a lot of copium heavy Kirby mains INSIST dair is worse than hammer
Yes youtube this is the comment that mentioned me.
Kirby mains pretending the only lingering spike in the game isn't broken
@@Robbie_Haruna Lucas''s dair is also a lingering spike, but tbh that move isn't that good either.
@@staticchimera6371 oh right I forgot about Lucas, his is also pretty busted
@@Robbie_Haruna Lucases don't have much faith in that dair either lol. It has a big problem with fall outs, and there are issues with it as a combo tool. Case and point, Kirby's and Lucas's dairs are both weak to SDI, in a metagame where people don't SDI. That's why people think they're better than they actually are.
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Kirby is not a lowtier his d tilt outranges clouds f tilt
X is not a low tier because they have one move better than y