Hitler's Jazz Band - WW2 Documentary Special
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- Does Adolf Hitler like Duke Ellington? No, and nor do many National Socialists. But the story of the music in the Third Reich is more complicated than you might think. What if we told you that Joseph Goebbels has tried to create a Nazi-approved swing band tasked with bringing the Jazz War to the Allies?
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Hosted by: Astrid Deinhard and Indy Neidell
Director: Astrid Deinhard
Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson
Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson
Creative Producer: Marek Kamiński
Community Management: Ian Sowden
Written by: Francis van Berkel
Research by: Francis van Berkel
Map animations by: Daniel Weiss
Map research by: Sietse Kenter
Edited by: Iryna Dulka
Artwork and color grading by: Mikołaj Uchman
Sound design by: Marek Kamiński
Colorizations by:
Mikołaj Uchman
Daniel Weiss
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Image sources:
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Soundtracks from Epidemic Sound:
A Caper Story - Martin Landstrom
All Good Things Come in Threes - Ritchie Everett
Stomp! Stomp! Stomp! - Martin Landstrom
A Strange Man - Rich in Rags
The Bonn Predicament - Duke Herrington
Bobby Swing - Bladverk Band
Memoirs of a Silk Bow Tie - The Fly Guy Five
Nightmoves - Wendy Marcini
Boro - Hara Noda
Just Got Eyes For You (Instrumental Version) - Ivy-Rose Lyon
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Music is quite a universal language, and so it can be hard to appropriate it for propaganda purposes when it goes against what you seek to promote. Though that certainly hasn't prevent many, including the Nazis, from trying.
Music is the language of the world
A great tragedy that Germany from 100 years ago will never come back. The Nazis destroyed Germany spiritually as well as physically.
On a related note, have you heard of/heard Trio Lescano, Mussolini's 'favorite' female swing singers? They were Dutch/Hungarian but became quite popular in Italy during the war years. Their sound is similar to the Andrews Sisters.
The Nazis trying to be hip is just ridiculous.
This was a very nice n informative video. Indy's singing was the tops. As was Astrid's smile.
There is a funny story in regards to jazz in Nazi Germany. During the war there was a Luftwaffe fighter pilot, Hans-Joachim Marseille. This man was not your typical example of a Nazi officer. For he enjoyed jazz, swinging music, a big time womanizer, enjoyed going out, performed crazy stunts and much more. During his time in North Africa, he befriended a black South African POW called Mathew 'Mathias' Letulu and helped down Allied fighter pilots. In 1942, he was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross and was invited to eat with Nazi high officials such as Goering, Goebbels, Hitler, etc. Hans then played on a piano and played famous German classical artist then towards the end started playing jazz and American swinging music. This cause Hitler to get up and leave the room. In another instance, Hitler asked Hans if he would join the Nazi party and Hans reply was "That if he saw a party worth joining, he would consider it, but there would have to be plenty of attractive women in it." Hans-Joachim Marseille resisted Nazi ideals and would enjoy jazz music. May Hans-Joachim Marseille rest in peace in the sandy lands of Egypt. Godspeed.
An interesting fellow indeed
Now THAT is a good German...
The only thing that brought that man down was his own BF109 G-2
@@philippinecircularflag2023 Anything less would have failed...
Yup sounds like a Jazz fan
We are very lucky yet again to hear Indy's magical singing voice popping out so many great tunes from the era. This was quite an interesting video to watch about music during the war in Germany. Thanks Indy & team!
There should be a video of every Indy musical moment
@@indianajones4321 - Something totally Indy-stinguishable from 'the original'? : )
You guys are really Indy spirit of things!
@@Southsideindy would love to see a TimeGhost band
Meanwhile in the USA, life imitates art when Chicago based trumpeter Clarence Zylman fulfills the storyline of the huge Andrew Sisters hit, Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy, when he becomes a company bugler who is allowed to improvise for the troops. Actual jazz wins the war.
I had to stop 7 minutes in to just say i love Astrid's glee at Hinkel being bombarded with fruit.
This!
It seems the saxophone is mightier than the sword
Well it sure is heavier XD
It”s swing is more life-affirming.
People: "free jazz!"
Nazis: "no, let's incarcerate jazz"
The Nazis were full of contradictions. Great stuff Timeghost!
They’re professional liars who fool us all, and themselves. They’ll say anything then contradict themselves and try to Gaslight you due to public censorship and surveillance.
Honestly, I don’t wanna wonder what a modern nazi Germany would be. Probably something worse than modern day North Korea
Yep
"The Nazis were full of contradictions." Hitting the brick wall known as 'reality' tends to spin off a few contradictions.
Many of the "contradictions" also stem from not-so-historical cartoony half-truths being popularized as what Germany at the time was. Hence, when people get acquainted with other POVs that somehow denote more moderation on the part of the nazis, they see a contradiction between that and the cartoony version they had heard about before.
Django Reinhardt continued to perform in Nazi Occupied France and was quite popular amongst German officers. He did try to escape, was captured, but never deported to a concentration camp. Being of Gypsy ancestry he would have been a prime target of Nazi persecution.
It's very interesting that in 'Downfall', when Eva Braun want to hold a party out of the Bunker, she chooses 'Swing' music to dance to, even if it's more than likely a weak 'ersatz' swing played by a German band
I know the Luftwaffe loved a bit of Schräge Musik
for some reason it always involved four 20mm cannons
really can't understand why they didn't play any of charlie's orchestra's hits. "i never cared for you before, hong kong, burma singapore, bye bye empire"
India I may lose too, then I've only got the London zoo...
Quite interesting, I love these specials on different aspects of WW2. I remember a story told by a Hungarian veteran, who picked up a German broadcast while serving on the Eastern Front. It was called "Atlantiksender". He later realized that this broadcast was actually providing the true picture, and after the war, he even met the guy who spoke perfect German, but was in fact British: Sefton Delmer. It's another interesting tidbit, part of the British counterpropaganda efforts.
Thank you for watching! And thanks for mentioning Sefton Delmer, an important figure of British "Black Propaganda", which was used to sabotage the enemy's war effort. As you mentioned, he spoke perfect German and displayed impeccable command of German customs. He ran both Atlantiksender and
Soldatensender Calais. Very interesting indeed!
It never fails. A whole crowd of people bring apples and oranges to a concert. They never knew when they might need to pelt someone
I really enjoyed “Swing Kids” the film from back in the 90’s
I know it would have made the episode a lot longer, but I would have loved to hear actual snippets of :Nazi Jazz" ! Maybe interspersed with Cab Calloway, Louis Jordan, or even Glenn Miller. Too bad WWII couldn't have been fought by bands as some kind of big "cutting contest"!
Dammit, now I want to witness a Battle of the Bigbands.
Why not do a Playlist of songs to go with the video?
Well, it don't mean a thing, if it is Nazi swing...
Great special. Good job Astrid, Indy, & team.
Thank you!
Astrid and Indy, smashing ties and a very interesting bit of information. What a great piece! I am curious if "Lord Haw-Haw" got his name because of his Glasgow Smile or if that was some inside joke. Indy...that was some pretty good singing.
I was under the impression that it was a reference to his received pronunciation.
@@samovarsa2640 I am unsure...maybe
@@heathercontois4501 well, certainly that's what my Nonno said about him back in the day. Of course, that could have been specific to my Nonno and his immediate circle.
William Joyce alias Lord Haw Haw, broadcaster of German propaganda in English during WWII, mimicked the English upper class accent of his time. Joyce's family and personal loyalties included connections to the United States, Great Britain, and Germany. However, he was born in County Galway, Ireland, and normally spoke English in the accent of that county. After the fall of Berlin to the Russians, and after a few drinks, Joyce made his final broadcast on German radio speaking in his own accent.
Another Awesome video!!! Funny how I know most of the Lyrics to "Bei mir bist du schön" due to watching the 1993 movie swing kids.
"I love that song.. Bei mir bis du Schoen.. dada da... I don't know all the words."
the famous musical caberet is about those days... a movie swing kids also deals with this subject
Where did Corny Östermann’s band fall in this odd situation? I’ve been listening to a lot of their 1939 music, and it’s so familiar to traditional swing yet with a german touch. I’m aware (or have seen at least) most of its members were conscripted into the Wehrmacht (such as Rudi S.) sent to the Eastern Front by 1943, and of course didn’t return home… as a swing/jazz fan, this video was very interesting, and can’t wait to hear more from Astrid!
This reminds me of the times I was forced to go to church youth groups and was made to suffer through the desperate attempts to make music that would appeal to the kids.
Love the episodes Astrid and Indy do together. They have a great dynamic
Too bad if all those records are lost. Historically useful. Gotta say that the "Panzer Rag" is a snappy tune.
The "German Submarines" song was my favorite.
Having done PSYOPS I really appreciate this subject and this has to be the best way I've seen it presented.
What a compliment! Cheers
So great of you to cover this. Music has been important since the dawn of time.
P.S fun fact, the relatively unknown Norwegian jazz guitarist Robert Normann cut his teeth during the war. He is a true virtuoso, and I recommend anyone who like jazz to check him out.
Again, great video!
Glad you liked it and thanks for the recommendation
Am I seeing it right? Is Astrid wearing a pair of FC Barcelona cufflinks? 🤣🤣🤣
I like that song Springtime For Hitler!
Franz Liebkind: th-cam.com/video/HPXHRX8Q2hs/w-d-xo.html
Its winter for Poland and France!
'Prisoners of love, blue skies above..."
Hi ww2. Hope you guys are well. I was reading a story about an African American soldier who helped to liberate Jews from the death camps in Germany. During his encounter with them, he told them "one day you will be free. For I too am a member of a persecuted people." It must have been really heartwarming to know that even during all that they went to, people who they probably had never seen before were able to have empathy for them given their shared history of oppression.
Thanks for sharing that story - do you happen to know anything more about it?
@@WorldWarTwo not off the top of my head, it was a personal anecdote from one of the survivors. I'll look it up for more info and get back to you asap. Thanks!
@@WorldWarTwo Hi ww2- the soldier's name was Paul Parks, and he took part in the liberation of Dachau in April 1945. There's been a historical debate since then over whether he, or any other black troops took part in the liberation of Dachau. But a Polish Jewish survivor confirmed several decades back that he was there. That was the one who reported that he had said that "you will be free. For I too am a member of a persecuted people." Personally I don't see why he would make that up; it's most likely that African Americans took part in the liberation of Dachau. So it's likely that he was there. That's the story as I understand it.
Thanks! #Neverforget
And again a great episode, covering another aspect of the war.
Thank you!
Churchill never missed a broadcast and found the shows both entertaining and funny. I myself completely agree, these boys Blow Zingers.
This is such a great episode! Jazz is so subversive!
Thank you!
I recently watch Marika Rökk - Musik Musik Musik (1939) on YT and thought except for singing in German it could be mistaken for an American musical. I also thought the NAIZ's were anti jazz because it had a very jazzy score.
All human culture, whether its music style, visual art, clothing, hair style, speech, etc. is human. One of the important qualities of being human is a drive to learn from other people, to copy language and culture.
The lady mispronounces English, the guy German, both sound like schoolchildren trying to sound engaging while reading the script for the second time. Truly a perfect pair of hosts!
I would have appreciated clips of the music and radio shows to accompany this
Imagine if they had Rammstein back then.
If Hitler and company hated jazz, they would have a field day with rock and roll, much less heavy metal like Rammstein!
Goose-step Mama by the Rutles
Too bad Goebbels forgot that Johannes Brahms was a meister of syncopated rhythms.
"Midwestern Americans aren't huge consumers of jazz."
Portillo's: I am offended.
I love that scene in Der Unhold - John Malkovich (1996) that opens with the singer and jazz band in Goering's lodge "There's no Spitfire in the skies..." something, it was snappy, but after that it's unclear, incomplete. So exiting! :)
Rumor has it that the band broke up after Charlie brought his Japanese girlfriend - YokoHama - to rehearsal one day.
Ohhhh I see what you did there
Well done Astrid, Indy and Time Ghost Crew! Great fun story about the contradictions and hypocrisies of Nazi cultural policy! Also all the bits on Lord Haw-Haw and the Abwehr’s failed jazz propaganda efforts against the Allies are fascinating! I’m hoping Josephine Baker will return in future Spies and Ties installments!
I remember reading about this in the 1970s as 'Mr Charlie' was mentioned in a jazz musician's autobiography. He heard this strange jazz record when he visited formerly occupied Denmark and he thought that it was trumpeter Nat Gonella but the lyrics were about Churchill and were something like 'He's the man with big cigar, he's the friend of the Jews and the USSR.'
That sounds like Charlie...
It is, „The Man with the big cigar“ - Charlie and his Orchestra Nr. 141. I actually have this record
So, when's the Time Ghost Army's sponsored Jazz album coming out?
I seem to remember film star Clint Eastwood saying that to world culture , America had contributed the western movie, the hamburger and jazz. Roll over Beethoven !
Jazz, rock & roll, and musical comedy
So the POW Camp Commandant listening to prohibited black jazz music in Hart's War actually has a basis in history? That's awesome!
Ragtime assaults. syncopation bombardments, armoured swing divisions, who knew?
wonder what the Germans thought when Glenn Miller died? tragic loss either way..the Channel holds her secrets to this day..
Great video! Astrid and Indie are couple of Hep Cats! Thank you! I love my saxophone, but I don't imagine it would be much use to someone on the eastern front.
Thank you!
I'm surprised nobody came up with dubstep to use as a weapon.
that would make it hot jazz in Stuttgart....
Armed Forces Network-Europe -- especially AFN Berlin on Saargemünderstraße in the American sector's Zehlendorf District -- were powerful influencers at the local level during the Cold War, because East German border barriers couldn't stop radio waves. AFN broadcast the most current U.S. music to U.S. service members, but the military broadcasters had a huge shadow audience among Berliners on both sides of the Berlin Wall.
This was a fun episode. I reckon your off-screen staff had fun with this one as well.
Yep, although an unfortunate side effect has been Charlie's "hits" playing in our heads for days!
The music playing in the background instead of the usual soundtrack really threw me off. I'm using headphones and when I realized the music was there I actually had to pause the video and take them off to convince myself that it was coming from the video and not somewhere in my house. It was so subtle I didn't even realize it was there until about half-way through the video. XD
Well that subtlety is thanks to Mix-Master Marek.
@@WorldWarTwo Well, thank you Mix-Master Marek for an excellent job. :)
With all this talk about Hinkel, I can't help but think of The Great Dictator!
There you have it.... at 7 minutes in I'm smitten with Astrid.
Speaking of ‘Wicked Austrian Jazz’ - check out Mozart’s Symphony 40: Cuban Edition (Amadeus Guanguanco by Joachim Horsley).
Another great video my friends
0:13 😂I love these guys.
and we love you
This whole story sounds like it would make a good movie akin to "The Death of Stalin."
Lord Haw Haw (William Joyce) was born to Irish parents in New York . Moved to Ireland, then to England, involving himself with Mosley's fascists. Executed for treason in Wandsworth Prison. Some people say he was never British, so should not have been executed for treason. So the voice was undoubtedly a sneering upper-class English accent.
There are recordings of his shows so you can go and listen for yourself how he sounded.
Very interesting. Have you done an episode about Tokyo Rose? Heard a lot about her growing up, would like to learn the real story.
Remember that although the music is cool it is done for a special reason- too continue the horrors of war.
Indy, I've told many people over the years "the more you drink, the better I sing!" I need more beer!
Love the Sauron reference at 10:52 😂
We never miss the opportunity for a nerdy easter egg
I love the little lord of the rings reference from Indy 😂
I'm not sure how it was during the war, but "you're an army van" has to be one of the strangest lines that were sung to a girl, so I have to tip my proverbial hat to Astrid and Indy.
Yep a librettist Charlie was not
There was an area in Rotterdam forbidden for germans were they had jazzclubs !
5:47 Hans Hinkel? any relation with Adenoid Hynkel?
Nice you cover this strange part of WW2 history. May may little hint during a chat also may helped to bring this up? Thank you! Btw. nice performance Indy!
Ja też uwielbiam ,,Bei mir bist du schoen''!
18:20 I first read about this in the condensed books section of an old readers digest issue (1970's). The books was titled (if I recall correctly) Britain's Black Boomerang. They even had a station for damaging U-boat crews morale with supposed requests of music from a Uboat about to depart, unerving the crew. Their technique was not to lambast the Germans but to pretend to be them ("cover") with some misinformation ("dirt"). They even transmitted the Nuremberg Speeches as if they were a legit station.
Pretty brave singing that opening. 😁👍
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Excellent episode, definitely smashing the cymbals with this one. Thanks
This video's title is 10/10 but I would have gone with The Jazz of Soft Power.
Hi Indy and Astrid.
This subject unexpected and nice.
Indy your singing is splendid.
This video reminds me between two war episode.
Its been so long since last you posted video in time ghost channel.
Kindly re-start it.
Thanks.
We'd love to and we will some day we can assure you!
Indy I remember that as the Shasta Root Beer song..."Root Beer, Mr Shane..."
Quite an interesting and great video.
Thank you!
I've heard some of the 'Charlie' songs. Their take on 'By By Blackbird' is hilarious. Did they really think anyone would take the lyrics seriously?
Watch ‘Hitler’s Jazz Band’ the documentary produced in late 2022 for the UK’s Sky Arts Channel. You get lots of the bands actual music and a much more detailed and cinematic approach.
+2 pts for the Lord of the Rings reference!
Thank you for doing these videos
Thank you for your support!
the two of you look like you had way too much fun creating this episode
In our line of work, we take whatever fun we can get
Wow I. A very entertaining show but I have to add a really well researched story. Lots of subtle details about Goebbels' efforts and all the musicians involved. NORM MCDONALD OF CANADA, btw, was the comedian that Indy referenced re: the idea you cannot hate someone and do a good imitation of them ( i.e. Americans). Look forward to more similar videos ❤🎉!
Absolutely epic thumbnail. Just had to mention that.
All credit to Mijolaj as usual.
I have heard Norm MacDonald say that line about doing an accurate impression - I wonder if that’s where Indy heard it from 🤔
Yep you guessed it
This show makes me think of the great film: Große Freiheit Nr. 7, which you can find on YT.
The video is really well made- often foreign people (and Germans too) get that topic totally wrong.
It was infact still possible to get all the latest jazz tunes and also many many black musicans on records until the start of the war.
Still, there weren‘t just as many people which really were interested in this modern foreign music expact some well-to-do teenagers. „Hot Jazz“ was not less or more popular in Germany than in britain or the USA.
Just last week I found five records of the Charlie band, which Are incredible rar in Germany too and I‘m happy to have found out that these are still known today in other nations too
Yep. Jazz in Nazi Germany is a surprisingly complicated story.
As a man who lived in Stuttgart... Well it's not much safe, if Stuttgart is playing in the Mercedes Benz Arena
I came here after seeing a comment on the Nazi-fied pop rock of Wolfenstein featuring a mention of nazi jazz. This is not a rabbithole I expected to go down at 2:29 am.
what an odd start of a ep lol awesome! love how Astrid has her own style of presenting , very different from Indy and others.
Thanks very much for watching! We're glad you liked the episode. We all agree; Astrid is fabulous!
@@WorldWarTwo aye she is an awesome lass :D
Very beautiful music. Thank you for sharing
You are welcome
It won't surprise many to learn that Hitler did not, in fact, have any soul.
The Germans devised a fighter aircraft that fired 20 millimeter cannon shots straight up since the bellies of many bombers were the most vulnerable part of the enemy aircraft. The Germans called this aircraft's unique armory "jazz music", whatever German for that is. Starts with an "S". Schraege musik. I looked it up. Imagine your Lancaster being blasted to bits by schraege musik. The Schnattzzi imagination is either: non-existent (used up in uniform design) or totally surreal.
Indy's the bottom? 😳
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That's a terribly personal question...
What a swinging finale.
A star is born...Indy Neidell !