Can You Charge A Tesla Or Any Other EV While Camping? Let’s Find Out! (Part 2 of 3 )

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  • ( www.TFLcar.com ) After a long night of camping, can you actually charge up your electric car to get back home? In this video, we're going to find out using our Tesla Model X and Smart ForTwo Electric drive for a little experiment. Electric cars offer great promise for zero-emissions driving and a platform for the technology of the future, but if you're out in the wilderness, you still need to get electricity from somewhere. Is this Honda generator the answer, or will this EV charging experiment fall flat on its face? There's only one way to find out!
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  • @calebrasak6941
    @calebrasak6941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    You could have absolutely gone to 30 amps on the 7000 Honda. We use that generator in the film industry to run Arri M40 HMI lights. You simply bond the two 30AMP connections out of the generator so you can draw up to 60AMPs.

    • @kitehman
      @kitehman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@markplott4820 full size panels are just breaking 300W so thats 9+ panels

    • @rogersmith1408
      @rogersmith1408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markplott4820 Still a lot of panels to setup at the camp site :)

    • @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82
      @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markplott4820 can you give us the name of these 1000w panels

    • @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82
      @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markplott4820 you're full of shit

    • @miah650
      @miah650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@markplott4820 1000w panels don't exist. Largest comercial panel available is rated at 500w. Teslas panels are rated at 340w.

  • @sts3427
    @sts3427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    If I was camping and heard that noise id be pppppiiiissssseeedddd. lol

    • @Spike-13
      @Spike-13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah people with generators piss me off. I'm trying to go outside to get away from that shit. Go to a RV park

    • @Spike-13
      @Spike-13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Joshua Eaton my dad used a CPAP machine and he would just drive back into town every night. But if you want to camp just do it in a designated RV camping area and no one will care. But if you're out in national forest etc people in tents might get annoyed. Polite thing would be to use a generator in RV camping areas only

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I highly doubt these folks are at a campground. Most likely dispersed camping for free out in the forest. No quiet hours there.

    • @roger1818
      @roger1818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joshua Eaton Not sure about yours but most CPAP machines use between 30 and 60 Watts of electricity. Even if you assume 80 W, you could run it for 24 hours with a 2 kWh solar generator (the solar panels charge the battery during the day) for clean, quiet power. Even if the panels didn’t fully recharge the battery, you would have a couple days of reserve power. Worst case, drive into town every few days to plug the battery in to recharge it.

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's easy to find campgrounds that have 220V electrical hook-ups and many will have hourly rates for EVs. I think this video should have been called: "can you use a generator to charge an EV?"

  • @blizsgarage8487
    @blizsgarage8487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    You get what you pay for. The Honda generators never fail as an owner of 2 Honda generators. Plus the DB rating for Honda’s are outstanding.

    • @DrFearCo
      @DrFearCo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve wanted one of those for a long time. Probably not the big one but it’d be super useful during power outages

    • @blizsgarage8487
      @blizsgarage8487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark Plott on order. 👍

    • @WJCTechyman
      @WJCTechyman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've had experience with Honda equipment for a while including lawn mowers, trimmers and snow throwers and I can say that they have been awesome machines. The next piece of power equipment I am planning on buying from Honda is the smaller EU2200i generator.

  • @tfcooks
    @tfcooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    That Generac is probably afraid of heights. 8000' is too high for it.

  • @IronmanV5
    @IronmanV5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    State parks have campsites available with 120v and 240v ( 30-50 amps). Something to keep in mind for the EVs and the Camper

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Definitely the way to go for ev camping, charge overnight.

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not all and usually only at certain sites, tent only would likely never have a water or electric hookup.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@trevors8577 uh, I've definitely had elec at tent sites

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@0xsergy I've never had electric at tent sites. Tent sites are usually the cheapest because there are no hookups. It all depends on the campground or area you're in. If you're near suburbia then possibly. I've camped multiple places in Alaska and in British Columbia at state and private and never had electric for tent sites. Now I prefer to camp dispersed up in the Rockies so if I bring a generator I have electric :) though I've accumulated enough DeWalt stuff to where I just bring a bunch of batteries for heat, light, fans, and radio and heat stuff up on an unleaded stove.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@trevors8577 i'm talking 4 hours from the nearest big city. i don't usually get the elec since they cost more but there is usually an option.

  • @andrewalaska
    @andrewalaska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    at ~5KW it was charging ~13 miles an hour and would run ~7 hours on 5 gal of gas. Roughly 18 MPG of gas. Better than I expected given all the inefficiencies and conversions doing it this way.

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how when you close the hood on a Tesla it sounds exactly like my 1987 Suzuki Samurai.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hoods, magic technology

  • @gunlover1955
    @gunlover1955 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just what I always wanted to go camping and spend the whole weekend charging my car up so I can drive home just in time to charge up for work on monday, lol.

    • @55afishead
      @55afishead ปีที่แล้ว +2

      gunlover1955 I'm guessing you are 67 years old. Please educate yourself about EVs. You will blow your mind with knowledge. It's a wonderful thing.

    • @WJCTechyman
      @WJCTechyman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@55afishead Well, I have knowledge and it isn't all sunshine and rainbows either. If you are charging your EV with an engine, then just use a car with an internal combustion engine. This EV nonsense isn't really great for the planet requiring power generated by fossil fuels (in the US fossil fuel electricity is the largest piece of total energy production while in Canada, most of our electricity is generated by hydro-electric generation and a close second being by CANDU nuclear power, which is mostly in Ontario) as well as mining for the precious as well as hazardous chemicals and metals, often not highly regulated for the environment and then there's the issue of end of life where a good 90% of the battery becomes warehoused because there isn't really a financially viable method of separating out the toxic powder known as black mass.

    • @55afishead
      @55afishead 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WJCTechyman To each there own. Go buy an ICE car then.

  • @thejackalsmith7329
    @thejackalsmith7329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Andre. To start the Ford by remote you have to hit lock once on the remote. Then start twice. It’s easy.

  • @bmwloco
    @bmwloco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    During the California fires, one smart soul wired up his Tesla to charge his house. He never lost power.

    • @tfcooks
      @tfcooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know a guy that powered his house with a 79 ford pickup every day for years. But both are pretty cool. 😉

    • @Poorgeniu5
      @Poorgeniu5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I heard the Toyota Mirai's Japanese counterpart have an CHAdeMO port in the trunk to provide homes power in case of quakes or tsunami.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tfcooks Teslas having some system their developing where apparently you can store your power on your tesla and later sell it when the price goes up back to the city or bussineses. come to think of it its pretty insane that a car can power your whole house lol

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@honkhonk8009 Meh... You could install a larger charger to your car and then power your house from the ICE in your car.. :P

    • @fernando651
      @fernando651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      smart until the battery runs out and he's stuck without a car!

  • @charlesmoore8958
    @charlesmoore8958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    That generator literally cost more than my car.

    • @greekartvlog8712
      @greekartvlog8712 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here

    • @WJCTechyman
      @WJCTechyman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, I hate to say it but EVs cost more than your car too.

  • @chriscarguy
    @chriscarguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:15. To answer the guy:
    Yes, the 2020 Toyota Prius Prime can fit 5 full size adults comfortably, it can travel 80+mph in full electric mode, and yes it gets over 90mpg combined. In fact, mine gets over 217mpg combined because I rarely travel farther than 20 miles from home. But yes, the Ford Fusion Energy is a decent sedan. My brother used to own one, but the 2020 Prius Prime is definitely the better option

    • @FrankyRedEyes
      @FrankyRedEyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ChrisCarGuy - ford licenses hybrid tech from Toyota. I've been out of the loop for a while but I'm sure this fusion isn't all ford under the hood.

  • @FrankyRedEyes
    @FrankyRedEyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It would be so great to be camping next to you 3. Cameras rolling generator running and dudes yelling over the geni noise. So relaxing lol

  • @CigarBoss
    @CigarBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You guys have no clue as to how many of my co-workers I have turned to your channel.😂
    Keep up the great work 💪

  • @k7gixxer1000
    @k7gixxer1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine camping next to 3 idiots charging their Teslas all night with a loud ass generator.

    • @desertaliend_b9840
      @desertaliend_b9840 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus the camera man.

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could be e worse. Imagine an idiot running a generator all night just to post stupid ass comments on a TH-cam video.

    • @k7gixxer1000
      @k7gixxer1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TFLcar Is that what you're doing?

    • @valderon3692
      @valderon3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find it funnier to imagine 3 idiots trying to fuel that ford with sunlight or wind. XD

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, gotta love them YELLING at each other to be heard over the generator. Makes camping grand doesn't it?

  • @MegaDizz23
    @MegaDizz23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is pretty much how the BMW i3 works with the onboard Generator/engine to charge the batteries. But you don't have to stop! Thanks guys!

    • @MegaDizz23
      @MegaDizz23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can camp in any car depending on the mattress or pad size. Tesla's are cool cars but you can get an i3 for 14-20 used. Not everyone wants to spend 40k on a base model car.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bmw i3 is ugly. tesla looks like a spaceship

  • @realev21
    @realev21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This series was really interesting. Where did part 3 of 3 go? Your videos are great but I find that your EV video series are often not completed. Maybe not enough views, I am not sure, but I am always left missing your final videos (etron conclusion, charging part 3 of 3 etc) Great work though.

  • @BiggMo
    @BiggMo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TFL would be the WORST camping neighbor EVER. Two generators and drone -

    • @valderon3692
      @valderon3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like most campsites I've been to...

    • @BiggMo
      @BiggMo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Valderon : ...that’s sad 😢 when camping should be a way to get away from it all and people take it all with them. I guess we’ve been (mostly) fortunate

  • @Taite1
    @Taite1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's crazy because we have the same honda. Same exact one it is the most reliable on the market

  • @cesartrujillo4190
    @cesartrujillo4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So charging options are home, fast chargers, Tesla Super Chargers, RV parks, deployed solar arrays, and stationary or portable generators? This one is noisy but that’s a lot of options to get you that sweet feel of all electric power. I would charge the night before at home, supercharge as close to camp site as possible, use camper mode which automatically turns off at 20% and charge back up at the supercharger on the way home. If I stop for 10 minutes every hour or so to Supercharge, then I have just enough time to pee and get a drink. I drive another hour which is all my bladder can take after that big drink so I stop and repeat the process. It’s the same as road trips before except now I plug in and walk away while it charges instead of filling gas where you stand and stare at the gas pump filling the car with your cash.

  • @stevend3753
    @stevend3753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How many gallons of gas would it take to run that Honda for twenty hours tapped out?

    • @wzDH106
      @wzDH106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      About 14 or 15 gallons according to Honda's specs.

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You generally end up with fuel efficiencies close to a hybrid.

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      uhhhhhh, do you know how much 3kw of solar weight?

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never heard of such package efficiencies, but I'll take it. how much?

    • @dillonh321
      @dillonh321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      328miles/15 gallons = 22 miles per gallon

  • @shockracer
    @shockracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 10,000' you'll see about 30% power loss/reduction because of altitude. So that generator being 7,000W drops to 4,900W, which explains the struggle it was having.

  • @mikezitch5699
    @mikezitch5699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:31 oh that was almost it.... That wasn't even close... Boy am I used to hearing that 😂😂😂

  • @mickh8538
    @mickh8538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an exorbitant amount of unnecessary steps just to have a warm fuzzy feeling about owning a electric car and trying to adapt it to a every day solution that's all ready works well with fuel driven cars

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Glad to see I’m not the only one who’s Ford remote start is finicky.

    • @smokeymotorsport
      @smokeymotorsport 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a Mustang when I was in the US last year, and remote start was 100% reliable if I hit unlock, then lock, then start. It was a rental with no owner's manual in it, but I'd hope it says to do that in the manual!

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smokeymotorsport makes sense, wouldn't want the button to accidentally get pressed in your pocket so making a sequence to start isn't bad.

  • @getlosttoday4045
    @getlosttoday4045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Still using gas 😂

    • @pavilionkodi99
      @pavilionkodi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get lost today 😂😂😂 it cost more now and how is it earth friendly now as they say

  • @TheSteveo2626
    @TheSteveo2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had this very same question regarding camping in Colorado with an electric car and a generator and sure enough, the TFL guys have the exact video. Love all your channels.

  • @mellored
    @mellored 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What was the MPG of the generator + EV? Can you put a gallon in the generator, and see how many miles are added to the EV?

    • @stant7122
      @stant7122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if you get a MPG that’s better than ICE

    • @kingssman2
      @kingssman2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That generator specced at 6 hours on 5 gallons of gas at full load. They were 10 amps shy of the full load. At 20 amps, the Tesla screen said 15 miles per charge hour. After 6 hours, 5 gallons of gas, that 90 charged miles. Divide that by the 5 gallon tank, you get 18miles of charge per gallon used.

    • @mohammadal-kamsha4020
      @mohammadal-kamsha4020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@kingssman2 and if i add a galon of gas in a normal internal combustion how much miles do i get

    • @grantduke318
      @grantduke318 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingssman2 So, these guys are doing all this work for absolutely no reason. It would be better for the environment if they just drove normal ICE cars. Significantly better considering the amount of CO2 that is produced in the creation of EV batteries. Can someone inform in our government to put an end to subsidies on EVs already?

  • @steveawesome9538
    @steveawesome9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact you have to now bring a generator along to charge a car, or in the event you have a loss of power and require a generator to supply power to the car is enough of a reason for me to never buy one of these past a 2nd or 3rd car or novelty. 2021 F150's can be ordered stock with generators, and most have 400 watt inverters in them. My 2017 F150 does. Which makes it far superior to a Tesla Model X in every category. It'll do 700 miles on a tank of gas at 78 mph or lower. Then it recharges in 15 minutes or less at a gas station.

  • @PatrickRich
    @PatrickRich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pro tip: fill your gennys with ethanol free to avoid the starting issues. Those little jets get varnish on them really easily. Had the same problem with my similarly sized Honda unit.

    • @trex2092
      @trex2092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OR another option, go with a propane-powered gen-set or install a propane adapter on a gasoline generator.

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The newer ones are designed for E10, just make sure you run the carb out of gas. Most have a fuel turn off.

  • @realev21
    @realev21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. Was this series ever completed? Where is episode 3?

  • @AsakuraClan
    @AsakuraClan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is the link for Part 3??

  • @jackzhang2526
    @jackzhang2526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where is part 3, somehow I am not able to find it. Please attach the link.

  • @jacobyo99
    @jacobyo99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s not going to be a very relaxing camping trip if you have to listen to a generator running the whole time

  • @badgerpa9
    @badgerpa9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tommy needs to do some workouts to increase the speed on that pull a little. Quick pull starts better than a slow one. Nice job figuring out about the grounding, when you use a generator it should have a safety ground. The jumper plug is what I have used for years but I still have a ground lug and a old long screw driver I can push in the ground and pour some water on, it works good. When you run a motor home with a couple A/C units down the road with the generator on to power them I always worry about voltage on the body and someone getting a shock, but as long as it is not me and it is only funny I am ok.

  • @mana9013
    @mana9013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh i remember you gave us a review but never continued for the part 2. Ive been waiting for this

  • @Tron-Jockey
    @Tron-Jockey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video guys but there may be better options for generators for considerably less coin. That Honda is sweet but WAY TOO expensive. My trusty old $1200 Generac XP8000 has been my dependable workhorse for many years. If you don't like Generac (and a lot of people don't) and don't want something that large and loud (Generac's are LOUD), I'd check out something like the Briggs & Stratton Q6500 - QuietPower Series Portable Inverter Generator. Tiny compared to this Honda, only weighs 125 lbs. and "unbelievably" quiet to help maintain campsite diplomacy. Many Inverter/generators can even be paralleled so for essentially the same weight of that Honda you can have quite a bit more power and still be very quiet. Actually this would be a great topic for a future video. Select the top 10 Inverter/Generators and give them a camper's critique as you did in this video.

  • @lhgt1324
    @lhgt1324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even a generator has F1 techology🤣

  • @florents.27
    @florents.27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    11:28 You need a calculator to multiply by 10😯!

    • @DrFearCo
      @DrFearCo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ve never used a calculator to do very basic math before without realizing it?

  • @ckwei687
    @ckwei687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the additional part that you need to make it work? What’s the cable with the box called? I just tried charging my Tesla with the 240 and 120 and it keeps stopping, and the bounding plug that I got trips the GFI every time.

  • @Mrconman0123
    @Mrconman0123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever make a part three i Cant find it, could you maybe add a link at the end of your videos when you complete the next parts

  • @viewer1668
    @viewer1668 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you just need to bond the 110 to use the 30 amp plug? Or do I need to bond plug the 30amp?

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also that's a range plug for up to 50 amps.
    The dryer plug is only good for 30, and this is differentiated by it's L-shaped prong.

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen a few of these types of exploratory videos and the anticipation is really fun.
    GM has a pickup with a 1/7 v8 generator and bed plug already??

  • @timhemus6070
    @timhemus6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to see you put the generator and camping gear in the electic car.

  • @eggy1711
    @eggy1711 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this series found this DuroMax XP13000EH online it has the 4 pin plug same as dryer one up to 50A and Dual Fuel Gas or Propane, also cost alot less, not sure if you guys can test it, if it would be a better option for home and camping and charging the car as it has the dryer plug on it.

  • @steverowe2943
    @steverowe2943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ROFL - Electric car camping with your ICE support vehicle. How many mpg does that Tesla get again?

    • @valderon3692
      @valderon3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That one gets 96 MPGe and has a range of 325 miles according to the EPA. Though that will be greatly reduced if you are doing wimpy camping like these guys seem to do. No need for the truck for real camping.

    • @steverowe2943
      @steverowe2943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You missed the point completely. Charging a Tesla at a rate of 14 miles/hr by a gas generator consuming fuel at a rate of X gal/hr will equal some real life mpg as demonstrated in this video.

    • @tonyc6996
      @tonyc6996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@steverowe2943 apparently you missed the point. Very worst case can you add some range to an EV if you're stranded with a generator. Yes.
      However I'd bet the idiots in my Tesla club would rather stay stranded than use this method because gas is the devil

    • @valderon3692
      @valderon3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steverowe2943 I didn't miss the point. Based on the efficiency of that generator stated by another comment it seems to be about 46 mpg. Far better than most gas powered cars. Though I realize a youtube comment isn't exactly the most reliable source.

    • @lloydsumpter7735
      @lloydsumpter7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonyc6996 But.... if you're "stranded" how do you pack that huge generator in your Tesla? You need a big gas-guzzling truck to haul around the generator to charge the EV.

  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Charging an electric car with a gas generator?
    Great to know for an emergency but kind of ironic

  • @justjohnny05
    @justjohnny05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually on that model smart car you can also adjust the amount of amps for charging I have mine set at max but there are about 3 or 4 lower settings and the smart can charge using 240 connector too

  • @o8x8
    @o8x8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honda 7000is is rated for 240V@22.9A and max 6 hours runtime with 5.1 gal tank, so by adding at most 16 mi/hour range, comes down to less than 19MPG!

  • @traceygarrett9857
    @traceygarrett9857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me the name of the adapter that you connected to the generator to allow you to connect to the Tesla nema plug

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have questions about "Pure Sine Wave" generators (inverter generators) and older "Modified Sine Wave" generators. Will the modified sine wave generators charge my Tesla or hurt it?

  • @dakotaparsell9867
    @dakotaparsell9867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having trouble finding part 3

  • @bettyboop3206
    @bettyboop3206 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, I LOVE my Prius! 55- 60 mpg. Was very affordable at 17 K. ( used) and it has a spare tire. I can even sleep in it if there are bears or thunder showers.....

  • @HansKeesom
    @HansKeesom ปีที่แล้ว

    "1:00 The question we are gonna try to proof today?" Sounds like the outcome was decided upon already.
    Furthermore it does not matter how long it take to charge to 100%, important are the miles you can charge in an hour time when the battery is at a soc < 50%

  • @trex2092
    @trex2092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Generac 17500kw generator which I have converted to run propane has a 14-50 outlet on it but that system is solely for use at my home where I have a propane source and a Tesla Wall Connector in my garage and yes, the generator is grounded where I run it for power outages (Hurricanes) and the house is grounded as well.
    I would probably camp at a campground that already has power pedestals and is much quieter.

  • @bigc12b16
    @bigc12b16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Curious can you calculate what your MPG is by doing this? So how many miles does 1 gallon of fuel put into the generator get you.

    • @wzDH106
      @wzDH106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm guessing about 20MPG. Honda claims 5.1 gallons with a 6.5 hr run time at rated 5.5 kW. They were a little under that, so about 7 hours per tank. Tesla's screen showed about 20 hrs? 0 to hero. About 14 or 15 gallons worth.
      Probably less fuel consumption at altitude, but still can't get away from the incredible inefficiency of the ICE generator. The generator being under 20% efficient?

  • @LSwaggy
    @LSwaggy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the generator capable of Level 2-Charging the Smart Car? If it is, approximately how much can it do a half charge on a full tank on the Genny charging from half. I'm seriously thinking about getting a Genny because I am living offgrid.

  • @badgerpa9
    @badgerpa9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow reading the comments, it is funny how many people seriously think Roman is going to mount that generator in the trunk of the Tesla and run it as he drives. Good god do people not get what they are showing. They are not telling you to take your Tesla out in the woods offroad with a big assed generator and charge it all night. Roman when you go to wire that to your house if you need help hit me up, I will try and help you.

  • @MIck-M
    @MIck-M 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2200 watts it is always going to be a 1 or 2 mile per hour of charge - better than nothing in a pinch. A lot of vids leave people with the impression they can get back on the road in 10 minutes. That being said, I only have 240 volt here and a 11 KWH battery house system so I don't charge off the house without running a 6kva over the top of it - unless its sunny and the panels are giving 1500 watts or more in which case it is fine. A lot of people think they are going to run a little genny in the boot and cheat the system (lol) but they forget about conservation of energy completely.

  • @tonytran3830
    @tonytran3830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same generator and it works like a dream!!! When power is out Honda power is always there... i have use my dryer and microwave at the same time!

  • @MarcoPon
    @MarcoPon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The time to fully recharge an EV is a meaningless measure: if you had a 50000KWh battery it would take weeks, but who cares? What's interesting is the miles rechaged per hour, which is what the Tesla's screen display. And the miles one is interested to recharge, are the one to needed get to the next destination or, more often, just to a better charging location (faster, or just more practical, with food/services, etc.). One interesting thing shown is the versatility of an EV: in case of emergency/disaster, there are lot of ways to get energy from, gas included.

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marco Pontello You’re making too much sense, this video is for clicks, not information.

    • @valderon3692
      @valderon3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The versatility argument is exactly how I responded to another comment. Imagine trying to power that truck with sunlight or wind. XD

  • @retroenergy2358
    @retroenergy2358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff watching this 3 year old video. 17 KW battery in that Smart EV :) , makes me laugh. It would be fun to watch this video in another 10 or 15 years to see how archaic this all seems in the future.
    I can remember my grandfather telling me how he used to have to plan a road trip of a couple hundred miles and always cary spare gas cans with since not all small towns had gas stations around yet. The 1920's and 30's cars in severe cold winter would only go about a hundred miles per tank safely so it was survival planning for road trips at times back then. He said most people he knew at the time had never traveled over a 100 miles from their home in their lives. I'm sure a decade or so later made a bid difference back then and will again during this change.

  • @anonymoosegoesfourth
    @anonymoosegoesfourth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its 2020 and i still can't get 1.21 jigawatts out of a banana peel and some wrappers.

  • @electrictroy2010
    @electrictroy2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teslas need maintenance. Owners saying “no maintenance” clearly haven’t read the manual, because Teslas have radiators & brakes & other items that need routine maintenance (just like s gas car)

    • @cassiecrow557
      @cassiecrow557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The manual says tires and brakes bud

  • @jfbeam
    @jfbeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you drive while charging? NO! There are safety interlocks to stop people from driving off with the charge cord still attached. (happens at gas stations all the time! even notice the break-away connector in the hose? EV charging stations do not have those.) It would take some major reworking of the internals to bypass this safety. (also, @7k, you won't go very fast. In our EV "racecar", 12k will sustain about 45mph -- full acceleration is 75k.)

  • @darrengibson644
    @darrengibson644 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info, not ideal but better than being stuck with flat batteries! What about wiring the monster alternator on the Godzilla for EV charging??

  • @redkellyre6568
    @redkellyre6568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you carry the 55 gallon drum of gas for the generator ?

  • @TonyB1999
    @TonyB1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video.

  • @morrisbutrafili987
    @morrisbutrafili987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro is just hilarious!

  • @BaracW
    @BaracW 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With a Passport America membership, you could pull into an RV park for about $15-22/night and have unlimited, quiet power in 240v/50a for Tesla, 120v/30a for Smart car, and 120v/20a for camper, from the same pedestal. You'd burn that much in gas, for the generator, in a night.

  • @WyLEE08
    @WyLEE08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a single phase 240V generator right? Can you buy/use a three phase 240V and fast charge with that type? That would be the way to charge.

  • @krisnadiimam4556
    @krisnadiimam4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the smart ed aircon works on summer? Some car says aircon, but turns out to be heater on the winter and just fan over the summer... also its great that tommy still address his dad with "dad". Not many young people show respect to their elderly these days.

  • @christopherjustice4233
    @christopherjustice4233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While the premise for this video is interesting and good fun, it is also silly. Would you take 25 gallons or more of gas to the campsite to fill the truck to completely full?

    • @AkioWasRight
      @AkioWasRight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, because the the truck would still have more than enough range to get to a gas station.

    • @Lamar-zx5tp
      @Lamar-zx5tp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, because even a giant HD truck doesn't have range or turnaround issues.

    • @CuzRepo
      @CuzRepo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they? Judging by the range used by the EVs, I'd bet the Ford still shows a full tank.

    • @christopherjustice4233
      @christopherjustice4233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CuzRepo The Smart Car is a city car, why take that camping? Even still, it had 1/2 a charge. They never showed the range left for the Tesla. Both EVs likely had more than enough energy to get to a charging station. I''m sure many campers get gas on the way home. I still question the premise. Who fills up to full at a campsite?

    • @jackzakowski6952
      @jackzakowski6952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😕

  • @BigMateo24
    @BigMateo24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You see those numbers on the side of the plug? That's a NEMA code. 14 designates the type of plug, 50 designates the amperage, R designates that its a receptacle. If it was a male it would be a 14-50P (P for plug). Same for twist locks although the code is a little different, twist locks will start with L designating it's a locking device.

    • @alanb.4660
      @alanb.4660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and that has nothing to do with a "dryer plug" different NEMA # and not compatible with a Nema 14-50

  • @kirkwagner461
    @kirkwagner461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, if you use that generator to fully charge either vehicle, how much gasoline would the generator have to burn: ie: what is the fuel resulting fuel mileage of this combination?

  • @jaytate491
    @jaytate491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to see a folding solar charge option. Go out for a week and charge during the day

    • @sonictech1000
      @sonictech1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To charge a car? That would take a LOT of solar panels.

    • @jaytate491
      @jaytate491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sonictech1000 you don't need to fully charge it but you will also never run out of power over a long period stay. You don't need to fully charge an electric car in a day remotely while camping from zero.

    • @sonictech1000
      @sonictech1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaytate491 Sure but to put the problem in perspective, a 100w panel will give you something like a mile or two per day.

    • @jaytate491
      @jaytate491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sonictech1000 I'd be thinking a lot more than a single flex panel. My solar panels on my home do 300 Watts a piece. 4 panels can easily produce 1kw. DC to DC would also improve transfer efficiency without the conversion losses.

  • @lcarliner
    @lcarliner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dumbest aspect of the gasoline powered “Smart for Two” product is the requirement for use of premium octane fuel. In Florida, the price penalty is typically some 60 cents per gallon!

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cry me a GD river

  • @TexMex421
    @TexMex421 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Campgrounds are a very popular place to charge EVs. Many have hourly rates, or you can charge overnight and stay at a nearby motel.

  • @brianw.4985
    @brianw.4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used a honda generator in a park to power a sound system for a band for a few hours, amps, pa etc. It was good.

  • @tasrill
    @tasrill 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to charge your car while camping just get an electrified campsite. RVs already want 30-50 amps so you can get a full charge over night with zero issues. Not quite as wild and rugged but if you are car camping you are already making concessions to the 'ideal' of being in the middle of nowhere.

  • @franciscoshi1968
    @franciscoshi1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The future is as follows:
    Camper will have solar panels on the roof with two awnings with solar panels which can have about 3kw of solar panels(using conventional current technology panels). You will have more effecient panels which will give you around 7kw for that area. You will tow a caravan instead. You will plug it into the car while you are out playing. You will look for a sunny spot instead of a shady spot. The panels will provide the shade and keep things cool. At 7kw you will be able to charge in about 15hrs if sunlight (about a 2 day stay).
    Then you will not have to worry about carrying enough fuel for the trip. As long as you have enough food and water your range will be unlimited.

  • @arnold_2523
    @arnold_2523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you go to Higher amps till it stops and why didn't you make a mpg calculation with this setup.

  • @bobthebuilder372
    @bobthebuilder372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you haven't already done this, the safest way to do this would be to purchase the Tesla NEMA 14-30 adapter, then purchase an adapter for NEMA L14-30 -> NEMA 14-30 (locking to non-locking). It will reduce the amperage to 24a (80% of breaker capacity) as you're not supposed to go over 80% constant current of the breaker. Tesla didn't have in mind folks charging their car with a generator since grid AC power is readily available most places.

  • @FrankyRedEyes
    @FrankyRedEyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did the Honda geni get to the campsite ?

  • @AndieBlack13
    @AndieBlack13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honda EU7000is, 5.1 gallon gas-tank, appx 18 hours worth of running time in "Eco mode", six hours at full load (which is what their doing here)....Got a pair of full Jerry-cans on standby?

  • @JHuffPhoto
    @JHuffPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love my EV but for camping duty I would take the petrol powered vehicle any day.

  • @TonyB1999
    @TonyB1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Three videos, 25 minutes and 6 commercials and I finally found the 30 seconds where they plug in a 240-volt plug and charge the damn car. Touché TH-cam.

  • @smokeymotorsport
    @smokeymotorsport 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surely in a good many parts of the US, solar power makes a lot of sense. Even on a cloudy day it generates power, and with the size of you guys' houses and roofs you could easily get a good bunch of panels up there. Free power! Then sure, if you're in the California (sunny place again!) wild fired and your power goes out, you've still got a few KW of power coming from your roof, which could be running your AC etc and the rest charging your Tesla all day while it sits in your driveway.

  • @thebigoki
    @thebigoki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. as well as the other one with the smart car. i have one too, from 2015. but i am in germany and have the 3 phase 22kw onboard charger, what makes the car even more valuable and even capable of longer distance drives (possible 1000 miles in 24 hrs!!!)... but this just aside. you could have been able to charge the smart with the smaller generator, by using a "charge-box" like a "go-e" charger, or "energy kick" (if they are available in the US?). so if you limit these mobile charging boxes to lets say 6A, or maybe a bit higher, you can charge the smart easily. maybe event the tesla with up to the 1700 continuous power limit of the small generator. but since the tesla uses way more power for its "standby", the efficiency will go down of course. maybe you test it next time and make a new video? would be great. thanks for your work. ps. btw. these boxes (go-e charger i.e.) can simulate the grounding, so you can charge a vw e golf too! :)

  • @denault3985
    @denault3985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Too funny, a gas generator to recharge your EV. What's the point, camping with noise!

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markplott4820 so it'll basically fill that smart? I doubt that thing does more than 100miles tops

  • @BBBYpsi
    @BBBYpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new 2020 Smart fortwo EQ's have a 90 mile range will charge up to 22KW per hour & charge from 10%-80% in 40 minutes. To bad they are no longer available in the US

  • @krisnadiimam4556
    @krisnadiimam4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u charge it while u are moving? Say a trailer behind the smart ed and charge it while it drives?

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no

    • @krisnadiimam4556
      @krisnadiimam4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, asked too early...

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no worries!

  • @ab104g
    @ab104g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the fuel consumption rate per full charge?

  • @EricB
    @EricB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you not simply try to pull more amps to see what happens? There are protections in place in the generator, the charge cable module, and in the car? Were you afraid of damaging something? Seems that should not be an issue.

  • @nwautoservicesltd6385
    @nwautoservicesltd6385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you overcome the grounding issue?

    • @bianca765
      @bianca765 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really would like to know how you overcame the grounding issue. I have a Jeep 4xe and I use a champion generator at my county place. The generator runs anyways and champion is controlled by a governor so I waste energy therefor plugging in my 4xe would be worth it.
      I tried it and got a grounding issue. I put a rd in the ground but that did not solve the issue. Any clue?

  • @benbraceletspurple9108
    @benbraceletspurple9108 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This with 10 gallons of fuel (2 5 gallon tanks can fit in the trunk and fronk with extra room) effectively doubles your range. Or maintaining it the same in extreme weather.

  • @TheJunkyardgenius
    @TheJunkyardgenius 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cant charge and drive at the same time but there should be an emegency function or socket to drive the power on direct power from the generator. Im sure that honda has enough to get the car moving. Maybe not high speeds but enogh to drive.

  • @BRKistler
    @BRKistler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ideal setup would be to use the generator to supply your house and have any spare current run to the Tesla

    • @JustinJS
      @JustinJS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is how my house is setup, power goes out, generator automatically kicks on. I have an LP 8KW generator, so not huge, but if i need to charge my tesla, I just slow charge it via 120v and get 5mph, which is fine in an emergence.

    • @justins.1283
      @justins.1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be nice if during a power outage if the Tesla could power the house.